Oxford Union President Celebrates Charlie Kirk's Murder as Media and UK Establishment Reveal Their Hypocrisy
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Oxford Union President Celebrates Charlie Kirk's Murder as Media and UK Establishment Reveal Their Hypocrisy
George Abaraonye, president-elect of the Oxford Union, posted "We got Charlie shot. Let's effing go" following Charlie Kirk's murder. While he later apologized, the university reportedly won't take action due to free speech policies. Meanwhile, former BBC and Sky News presenters rushed to criticize Kirk's views while downplaying his death. This panel discussion exposes the double standards of the "#bekind brigade," examines Kirk's actual positions on marriage, transgender issues, and diversity hiring, and reveals how the UK's approach to free speech and education has created an environment where celebrating someone's murder is met with a shrug, but conservative speakers are routinely banned from campuses.
Oxford Union Leader Celebrates Charlie Kirk's Death
George Abaraonye, the president-elect of the Oxford Union who met Kirk during a debate on toxic masculinity earlier this year, made shocking comments on WhatsApp and Instagram following Kirk's murder. He posted, "We got Charlie shot. Let's effing go." While he has since apologized, and the Oxford Union condemned the comments, reports indicate that the university itself will not be taking action due to its free speech policies.
The response highlighted a glaring double standard. As one panelist noted, "Imagine if he'd been right-wing. It's not about free speech. It's about humanity, which he clearly has none of."
Media Personalities Rush to Criticize Kirk's Views
Former Sky News presenter Adam Bolton wasted no time taking to social media, writing: "Charlie Kirk held racist and sexist views and advocated violence against some opponents. That puts him to the extreme right of any party holding elected office in the UK. You may like him, but you don't try to claim that he fits in the Overton window of political discourse in this country."
Former BBC presenter turned lefty podcaster Lewis Goodall joined in, stating: "Just to emphasize again, his murder is appalling but the idea that he was murdered for espousing some sort of common sense mainstream set of views that others dared not say is nonsense. But what is really so outrageous about Charlie Kirk's views?"
The Truth About Kirk's Views on Marriage
The panel examined what Kirk actually said about marriage, which contradicts claims he was sexist. Kirk stated: "Wives submit to your husbands as it says repeatedly. But the second part is also really important. We as husbands must be willing to sacrifice ourselves for our wives as Christ died for the church. That means we must be willing to die for our wives."
One panelist responded: "What's wrong with that? I want my partner to die for me. They tried to smear him as a sexist but he literally said he would die for his wife."
The UK's Free Speech Crisis
The discussion turned to the broader implications for free speech in the UK. One panelist observed: "The UK is very important to talk about not just because what's happening UK but also the ramifications here is the UK culturally felt like America before Donald Trump went down the golden escalator. They're in the abyss, but culturally there is this kind of silent, are we allowed to say this? Are we allowed to challenge this? Are we allowed to talk about this? Are we allowed to question this?"
The panelist continued: "He's right. Look at Lucy Connelly, Graeme Lahham. Free speech is dead in the UK. What's so wrong about saying that?"
Kirk's Compassionate Approach to Transgender Issues
The panel highlighted a conversation Kirk had with a transgender individual that demonstrated his approach was far from the hateful caricature painted by critics. When a young person who identified as a transgender male asked about hormone therapy, Kirk responded:
"First of all, thank you so much for that. I'm going to have an opinion that very few people will ever tell you, which is I want you to be very cautious putting drugs into your system in the pursuit of changing your body. I instead encourage you to work on what's going on in your brain first. I think what you need first and foremost is just a diagnosis. Just someone that is going to listen to what you've gone through, listen to what else is going on. My prayer for you this and again very few people will say this. I actually want to see you be comfortable in how you were born."
A panelist noted: "Contrary to what the left want you to believe he did treat trans people with dignity, respect, and most of all common sense."
The Reality of Diversity Hiring
Kirk's controversial comments about diversity hiring were also discussed. He had said: "I'm sorry. If I see a black pilot, I'm going to be like, boy, I hope he's qualified. Well, you wouldn't have done that. You wouldn't have done that before. That's not who I am. That's not what I believe. It is the reality the left has created."
One panelist, speaking from personal experience, defended this observation: "Well, he's right. There was a time when every organization wanted a token black face. That's what created this narrative. I've lost count of the number of times I've been told that I'm only here because I'm black. The diversity higher. Forget my 30 years of journalistic experience or the fact that I had to prove my worth."
The panelist continued: "The #bekind brigade were all over George Floyd. It was obviously wrong of the police to kill him, but he was a convicted felon. The left had plenty of compassion for Floyd, but not for Charlie Kirk, who was honest about his feelings and also prepared to be proven wrong."
University Indoctrination and Parental Concerns
The discussion then addressed a question from an audience member named Mark, who expressed fear about his daughter attending university: "I'm just wondering any specific actions that you would have our colleges and universities take to try and stop our kids being brainwashed from some of these extremist views. I've got a daughter going to university very shortly actually and it terrifies me that she's going to get in with the wrong crowd and come away with some really extremist views."
When asked what extremist views concerned him, Mark responded: "The view that just because you say something that somebody disagrees with, you deserve to be killed."
One panelist responded: "It's insane, by the way, that we're even having this conversation because it actually ties into what I was saying in the last part about resilience and mental health. And we have tried to legislate and protect young people from hearing things they don't like or any kind of adversity thinking we're doing them a favor when in actual fact what we're doing is we're not giving them any respect but we're also making people then far less able to tolerate things that they disagree with."
The Importance of Debate and Free Speech
The panel emphasized the need for open debate at universities. One member noted: "There's been plenty of instances that I've heard of where certain speakers have been cancelled when they go to do university. Katie Hopkins, I think, was one of them. That seems crazy to me. You get somebody, you debate them, you find the views, you find common balance. And if we prove them wrong, you know, come up with evidence and prove them wrong."
The panelist continued: "I didn't agree with everything that Charlie Kirk said. And actually, there's been a lot of people saying, you know, that's so performative to say that after his horrific death. But I think there's no greater compliment than to say that you really admired and loved watching him debate yet not necessarily agree with every single thing he said because that's the key is we're not going to solve all this unless we all talk."
Having Faith in Young People
When asked what parents can do about university indoctrination, one panelist offered hope: "She's your daughter. Have faith. Have faith in her. She'll be okay. You taught her. You brought her up. She'll be fine. The amount of times I hear this and yes I know some children come out this university like that. I have friends in the similar position as you. But have faith. Have faith in them. They're all right. And they'll come back. You can argue with them, debate with them. They'll have different points of view. That's fine."
Another added: "Tell her to read everything and even the things she doesn't agree with. Talk to the people she doesn't agree with. That is the point of the university. That's why it's called a university. It's to give you a universal view so that you hear everything, you read everything, you learn how to criticize what you are being told. But when they're getting shut down, when speakers like Katie Hopkins and others are getting sort of pressurized to stay away, they're not hearing all sides of the debate. They only hear the radicalized versions of it and it drives them to more extremist."
Labour Government Abandons Free Speech Protections
The discussion revealed that the UK government had recently abandoned legislation protecting free speech at universities. One panelist pointed out: "The Tories brought in a piece of legislation to guarantee freedom of speech at universities and the Labor government dropped it. It was coming through and you dropped it."
The response was clear: "I think it's really dangerous and I agree with you. University should be somewhere you can hear every view and you can debate things. But it seems to have become it is difficult for young people to stand up and say something different."
Personal Experiences with Campus Censorship
One panelist shared a personal story: "When I was standing as a conservative candidate in 2019 somebody just put on the internet oh one of our old girls is standing and it was just like leftwing left wing left w oh yes I vote conservative nobody because that school you can talk about, you know, worthy things, you can talk about slave reparations. You can have strong opinions on everything. But when you've got universities more interested in pulling down statues rather than educating everyone about those statues."
Another example was provided: "During the Wellingbridge by-election last year, all the candidates apart from the reform candidate were invited by the politics department at Wellingbridge school to debate to speak to the six formers because some of the six formers were voting and we got in touch and they said no we're not going to have reform you're ghastly and then the sixth form society party itself got in touch and said we want to hear from you. Good for them. And at which point the teacher had to surrender."
Teaching What to Think vs. How to Think
One panelist summarized the core problem: "Sadly, we have had a class of teachers who decide they're going to teach children what to think, not how to think. And Charlie Kirk having ideas. I didn't agree with everything he said, but he was very eloquent and he took the Bible very literally. I know a lot of Catholics are finding it very refreshing to have someone speaking about pro-life and speaking about traditional marriage. It's got me thinking and I would rather listen even if it's Barry. I'm always happy to hear why he thinks what he thinks and that is what I would like to get back to."
The Problem with Celebrating Death
Returning to the Oxford Union incident, a panelist noted: "Part of the problem as well is the educators. You had this president-elect of the Oxford Union almost celebrating the fact that somebody's died without even by or leave thinking that actually that might be a bit inappropriate. However, no matter what your political view is it's very bad to celebrate somebody's death."
While defending the right to redemption after apology, the panelist emphasized: "He's a student. He's a president. However, he has apologized and I defend someone's right to not have their life ruined if they say something stupid and apologize afterwards because I think it's important that we try and show the tolerance and understanding that is perhaps not just always reciprocated easily."
The Role of Parents in Political Education
One panelist shared their own experience: "When I was learning politics at college and uni, I had a teacher who couldn't have been more leftwing. But because at home I had a mother and father who had started with nothing and under Thatcher started their own businesses from scratch with no help whatsoever and had that sort of free market small business thinking. I found myself the lone voice in those classes arguing Thatcherism to my politics teacher and that came from them. It will come from you."
The Damage of Diversity Quotas
The discussion concluded with powerful testimony about the harm caused by diversity hiring practices. A panelist shared: "I agree with him because I've seen many people who aren't that talented but they have been picked because of the color of their skin. When I was younger, there was always, they'd pick one person who was black. And if they picked the black person, I was never going to get in because I literally would have to wait for that person to die or move on before they'd be a space because they'd reach their so-called quota."
The panelist concluded: "For me, the whole diversity thing, it's actually the worst thing ever. And then if you are talented, everyone says, 'Oh, you're only there because you're black,' which is terrible. So from my perspective, even as a woman of color, I just look at that and think I just want to be picked because I'm good and I'm the best for the job."
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