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Retired Colonel Tony Shaffer Breaks Down FBI Investigation Into Charlie Kirk Assassination and Radical Leftist Networks
Retired Colonel Tony Shaffer, who tracked al Qaeda cells before 9/11, examines the FBI investigation into Tyler Robinson and the premeditated assassination of Charlie Kirk. Shaffer raises critical questions about missing surveillance footage, the sophistication of the shooting, and potential connections to organized leftist groups. With Dan Bongino, Kash Patel, and President Trump calling for investigations into radical networks across the nation, Shaffer provides unique insight into what law enforcement should be doing—and what they're apparently not doing. Stephen Miller vows to dismantle domestic terror networks in Charlie's name, while questions mount about drone surveillance, ballistics expertise, and who Robinson contacted minutes before the shooting.
The Premeditated Assassination of Charlie Kirk
New details continue emerging from the FBI about Tyler Robinson and what he was doing before the premeditated assassination of Charlie Kirk. Leftist groups in Utah and around the nation are now being investigated according to Dan Bongino, Kash Patel, and President Trump. Retired Colonel Tony Shaffer, who has extensive experience tracking terrorist cells, joins to break down what law enforcement should be investigating and the troubling gaps in the current investigation.
Colonel Shaffer and his team tracked down al Qaeda cells in the United States before 9/11. They sensed something was coming and reported this to both the Clinton administration and the Bush administration. Now, as the Charlie Kirk assassination appears connected to far-left groups and trans activist networks, critical questions emerge about whether the FBI will dig deep into Facebook groups, Discord channels, and Telegram chats to identify all players and determine if there was foreknowledge.
Critical Questions About Surveillance and Investigation
Colonel Shaffer, who currently serves as Homeland Security adviser to Sheriff David Decar in Stafford County, Virginia, raises several troubling questions about the investigation. Sheriff Decar runs a modern department with a sophisticated three-tier drone system operated by about eight people. These drones can track people in vehicles from standoff positions and even enter buildings without jeopardizing officers. The technology is inexpensive and proven effective.
So why wasn't there a drone at the Charlie Kirk event? As Shaffer points out, his 18-year-old son could have been doing overwatch with such equipment. This represents a basic predicate for most homeland security and law enforcement operations—yet it was apparently absent.
Another glaring issue involves video evidence. While the nation was overwhelmed with horrific footage of Charlie being shot, where is the video of the suspect carrying the rifle either to or from the shooting position? With the amount of surveillance that exists in modern society, these blind spots raise serious questions. Shaffer clarifies he doesn't want to get ahead and claim evidence doesn't exist or that authorities are lying, but these are obvious questions any rational person would ask.
The Ballistics and Expertise Required
The weapon allegedly used was a Mauser Model 98. Shaffer, drawing on his military and law enforcement experience, explains that the shot that killed Charlie required significant skill and understanding of ballistics. At 200 yards, numerous factors come into play with this particular rifle and the 30-06 round it fires.
The rifle was scoped for a cold shot, meaning whoever pulled the trigger had to understand the ballistics of a cold rifle barrel versus a warm one. This took considerable thinking and skill—not something someone could accomplish by simply grabbing a rifle and scope from a store and assembling them.
To make a rifle effective, the scope must be zeroed in. This process takes time and practice. Shaffer's question: Where did Robinson learn this? Where did he zero his rifle? Did he have help? Who was his instructor? These legitimate questions demand answers.
This wasn't a Seal Team Six-level operation, but it required a B+ to A-minus level of skill—far beyond what an untrained person could accomplish. Yet there's little public discussion about the expertise required or where Robinson acquired it.
Questions About the Ammunition
Shaffer raises another technical concern about the ammunition used. Based on videos showing what happens when a 30-06 round hits a person, he's not convinced a standard round was used. A 30-06 would typically pass through at that range and keep going, yet authorities haven't stated where the round ended up.
From law enforcement contacts, Shaffer learned that Charlie died instantly on stage. Medical professionals he consulted explained that when the round hit, Charlie's arms went up in an involuntary response, and after that initial second of impact, it was over. His body froze in that position. A standard 30-06 round would likely have behaved differently—it would have gone through. The wound characteristics raise questions about what type of ammunition was actually used.
Breaking News: Phone Records and Group Chats
Breaking information from Steven Crowder reveals that Utah County Sheriff's Office internal documents show Tyler Robinson used his cell phone at 11:53—about 20 minutes before the shooting. Who was he talking to? What were they communicating about?
Additionally, one of the group chats mentioned a rifle drop-off and pickup. This might explain why there's no video of Robinson carrying a rifle onto the roof. The video released shows him coming off the roof without a gun—no rifle wrapped in a towel, no box, nothing. Yet on the roof, they found a screwdriver with his DNA and a towel covering the gun, also with his DNA.
The official narrative states Robinson arrived and parked in the parking garage, changed clothes, went out to a neighborhood, returned limping, then got up on the roof. But there's no video showing how the gun got there. He allegedly took the shot, then jumped off without the gun, which somehow ended up disassembled, then reassembled and covered with a towel.
Can law enforcement track down who the phone call went to? According to Shaffer, absolutely. The NYPD uses algorithms that link phone calls together, integrate location data and tower data. Towers can even provide hints about where cameras are located in the area. This is how NYPD reconstructs criminal and terrorist activities after events—tracing everything back using camera footage.
The question becomes one of technical expertise and political will. Are they going to do it? This is similar to how Luigi Mangione was tracked after assassinating the CEO of United Healthcare—camera by camera, building a complete picture. That's why it's frustrating that authorities are only releasing two photos of Robinson and withholding the rest of the video evidence.
Kash Patel on the Investigation
Kash Patel revealed that at least 20 people have been linked to the case and will be questioned. He emphasized that no one should assume guilt before they're interviewed. Regarding the Discord group chats, Patel explained there are more than 20 individuals involved, but the FBI must follow proper legal procedures.
The FBI serves as the investigatory body supporting multiple prosecutions and ongoing investigations. They can't simply access group chats immediately—they must effectuate legal process with search warrants so that prosecutors can later use evidence without it being tainted by illegal collection methods.
The FBI is running the investigation jointly on the Discord chat group. Scores of individuals will be spoken to, and many family members and friends have already been interviewed. In record time, the FBI obtained the text message chain between the suspect and his living partner, as well as critical cellular information. Their cell tower analysis team pinpointed locations of the suspect and other individuals he was communicating with—critical information processed and delivered to prosecutors for lawful use in court.
Legal Process and Public Frustration
Patel addressed public frustration about the pace of the investigation, noting that people expect instant results based on crime shows they watch on TV. However, there are many legal requirements to ensure evidence can be properly used in court.
Shaffer appreciates these challenges as a retired special agent who understands legal predicates and probable cause. However, he points out that state and local law enforcement don't have the same restrictions as federal officers. In fact, NYPD can do things that federal officers cannot. Local partnerships provide advantages—local law enforcement can access certain information without warrants that federal agents require legal process to obtain.
It sounds like authorities are working this out. However, Shaffer believes the FBI made initial comments in the first 48 hours that turned out to be completely wrong. They lost credibility, which is why questions continue mounting. It's better to be accurate and diligent rather than first and wrong.
Shaffer isn't convinced everything being examined will be exploited rapidly enough to catch all perpetrators. Drawing on his counter-drug and counterterrorism experience, he knows these networks anticipate and exploit the lethargy of the federal system. Federal investigators can only move so fast, even with state help, and evidence can be lost if authorities don't move quickly enough.
There's a distinction: investigators need to move fast on the investigative side without necessarily telling the public everything they're doing. Some of what Patel said in his interview may come back to cause problems.
Concerns About Copycat Violence
At a vigil in Arizona for Charlie Kirk, a young man around 20 years old walked through kicking and screaming, knocking over letters and flowers. A man in a BYU shirt grabbed him and threw him out, and the group moved him away. Police arrested him, and a photo was released showing he was wearing the same t-shirt as the alleged shooter.
This raises concerns about copycat murders and threats to other conservative podcasters. Shaffer has talked to several high-profile celebrities—names everyone would recognize—and at least one is reconsidering campus appearances later this month. This person isn't fundamentally conservative, just someone who speaks the truth.
Any public figure must now consider the risks of appearing in public. Shaffer admits he hates being in public and avoids public events more than necessary because there are dangerous people out there.
Part of the problem involves what Shaffer directly identifies as the transgender culture. He points to ample evidence that individuals within the transgender culture tend to be very reactive and violent. He notes there's currently a divorce happening between LGB and TQ communities. Many of his friends are openly saying they're not part of that group and don't want to be associated with them under the rainbow banner.
Shaffer plans to have some of his friends from the rock and roll world who may play for both teams on his media platforms to discuss this. This also includes the Gays Against Groomers organization. People are fed up with the idea that the trans community tends to recruit and advocate for their lifestyle in schools and other places. Shaffer's sense tells him there will be more coming out about this as more information about the case emerges.
Stephen Miller Vows to Dismantle Terror Networks
Stephen Miller appeared on The Charlie Kirk Show with Vice President JD Vance hosting on Charlie's behalf. Miller discussed how one of the last text messages from Charlie Kirk expressed worry about radicalized groups. Now Miller is openly discussing his plans to address this threat.
Miller revealed that the last message Charlie sent him—just the day before they lost him—was that they need an organized strategy to go after leftwing organizations promoting violence in this country. Miller vowed to write those words onto his heart and carry them out.
When asked about his emotions, Miller spoke of incredible sadness but also incredible anger. He distinguished between unfocused anger or blind rage, which isn't productive, and focused, righteous anger directed for a just cause—one of the most important agents of change in human history.
Miller vowed to channel all the anger over the organized campaign that led to this assassination to uproot and dismantle these terrorist networks. He described organized doxing campaigns, organized riots, organized street violence, organized campaigns of dehumanization and vilification, posting people's addresses combined with messaging designed to trigger and incite violence, and actual organized cells that carry out and facilitate violence. According to Miller, this constitutes a vast domestic terror movement.
Miller pledged to use every resource at the Department of Justice, Homeland Security, and throughout the government to identify, disrupt, dismantle, and destroy these networks and make America safe again. He vowed this will happen in Charlie's name.
Investigating Funding and Organization
Shaffer believes there are existing laws that have been ignored by the last three administrations—including the Trump administration, not because President Trump ignored them, but because Attorney General Bill Barr did. There's adequate evidence regarding Antifa and BLM that should be investigated. One BLM founder was just convicted of fraud, and criminal activities within these organizations are phenomenal.
Yet those calling this out are somehow portrayed as the bad ones, told to get over it and be forgiving. Shaffer insists accountability is necessary. In the past, whenever something like this happens, the other side says sorry and calls for unity. This time, sorry isn't good enough. They need to go after the funding, which has already begun with USAID.
Shaffer is waiting for an investigation into where all the USAID money was going and how it was coming back through NGOs—non-governmental organizations—and think tanks. He knows it was funding source organizations. Dozens of organizations traffic in hate.
One issue Shaffer wants to get to the bottom of is paid protesters. Some of these people make $80,000 to $100,000 per year. During the first Trump term, pallets of rocks and bricks showed up at protests. Who paid for that? Nobody ever investigated. Now it's time to investigate.
This week, Trump called for George Soros and the Open Society to be investigated, stating that Soros has done tremendous damage and that he believes there's a RICO case. In one example of the ugliness, someone spray-painted "Rest in Peace Charlie Kirk" as a tribute, and within 24 hours, it was destroyed and defaced with "Free Palestine," "Nazi," "No Empathy," and other horrible things. The tribute didn't even last 24 hours before it went from something beautiful to something horrifying that had to be painted over.
The mental illness and ugliness on display have been shocking. While there's also a lot of beauty out there, and attempts to remain optimistic and focus on that, the threat from organized radical networks remains real and demands investigation and accountability.
Video Transcript
We've got new details coming out of the
FBI about Tyler Robinson and what he was
doing before this premeditated
assassination of Charlie Kirk. Uh now
there are leftist groups in Utah and
around the nation that are being
investigated according to Dan Bonino,
Cash Patel, and President Trump. Uh I've
got a special guest, retired Colonel
Tony Schaefer, who has a lot of
experience with this to help me. Colonel
Schaefer, thank you for joining me
again.
>> Good to be here, Steve and I always
enjoy our conversation and I appreciate
our friendship. So, thanks for having
me.
>> Oh, absolutely. So, uh, just some
background. Uh, Colonel Schaefer and his
team tracked down the al Qaeda cells in
the United States before 9/11. They
could sense that something was coming.
They reported this to the Clinton
administration and the Bush
administration. Uh, now we're being told
that the Charlie Kirk assassination
could be connected to far-left groups,
trans groups. Um, what what are your
thoughts on this? Are is the FBI going
to start digging into these groups,
these Facebook groups, Discord,
Telegram, and start figuring out who all
the players are and whether there was
fornowledge?
>> Well, you're not going to like my
answer, and the answer is maybe. So, and
I'm I'm giving that answer because it
seems to me that there's some pretty big
obvious clues that aren't being looked
at. So, uh why are you not just
connecting the basic dots? And and let
me go through those dots that I think
are completely being ignored. And let me
further qualify myself before I say
that. So, one of the one of the jobs I
currently have is I'm the Homeland
Security adviser to Sheriff David Decar
in Stafford County, Virginia. Uh, David
is
Stafford is just south of of Quantico.
Just saying. Quantico, the Marine Corps
base and the FBI. Not that there's a
relationship there, but I'm just saying
uh Dave Dave Decar runs a very modern
sheriff's department. One of the things
he has and I actually spoke to him about
this just to make sure that I understood
the context of of his program regarding
uh
where it's going is drones. Drones are a
part of everything now. Uh David went on
I met with him I think three days ago,
four days ago uh and he briefed me on
where his programs at. Basically,
they've gone from kind of kicking it
around and seeing if it works to a
full-blown three tier system, high
drones, medium drones, indoor drones
operated by a crew of about eight
people. It's a big investment for a
small department, but it pays off for
them all the time. Uh they can track
people uh on vehicles uh in vehicles
from standoff. They can go into
buildings now with these small drones
without jeopardizing office, putting
officers. So, my question is, well, why
didn't they have a drone at the Charlie
Kirk event? These things are
inexpensive. My my uh 18-year-old son
could have been doing Overwatch. So,
what gives? So, that's the first thing.
It's like, and I said this on Newsmax,
it's like, yeah, I don't understand how
this is a basic predicate for most
homeland security and law enforcement
operations. drones cheap uh cheap and
effective wellproven resource not
present apparently. Secondly,
uh, as much as we live in a society with
a lot of video, I mean, we were
overwhelmed by the pictures of of
Charlie, God rest his soul, being shot.
Um, well, where's the video of the
suspect carrying the rifle either to or
from
the uh the the hindsight? I I so
with those kind of blind spots I I I I
don't because I I don't want to I don't
want to get ahead here, Stephen, and say
they don't exist or we're being lied to,
but I think the question it's these are
obvious questions any rational person
would ask. Why wasn't there a drone? And
why have we not seen a direct link
between the weapon they said was used,
which is this mouser uh uh model 90
something 98 and uh the uh the shooter.
So those things right there. So that's a
hard way. It's a long way of answering
your question. Will they get to this
other stuff? Well, I don't know because
they can't get to the basic some of the
basic interrogatories that I would think
they they would have resolved within the
first 48 hours. So just saying. Yeah. I
I wonder if some of that is to build a
case against Tyler Robinson because
we're now
>> we're we're now learning that they found
a screwdriver on the roof with his DNA.
They found a towel with the gun with his
DNA. But what we don't have other than
them telling us is he arrives and parks
in the parking garage. He changes his
clothes. He goes out to a neighborhood.
He comes in limping. Suddenly, he gets
up on the roof.
But there's no there there's no video of
how the the gun gets up there. He takes
the kill shot, then they show him
jumping off, but there's no gun.
>> Yeah.
>> Some are saying he maybe that
screwdriver they he disassembled the gun
really quickly uh and then jumped off
and then hit it, but then it's put back
together and it's covered in a towel.
There there's there's too many
questions.
>> Let me cover the gun for a second now.
Um
I've shot people. I've seen people die
in horrible ways. I I you know, it is
what it is.
What happened to Charlie was horrific.
And I'm gonna say this not to be
provocative. Charlie died instantly on
the stage. He was I know people
speculates like, you know, I had to
deliver the bad news to Buck Ston
because Buck and He were close friends.
And as I as a member of law enforcement,
I got the information about an hour
ahead of everybody else. I had to be
quiet. But uh I'm just saying that, you
know, that was horrific.
But what I find interesting is that
that shot, while not uh you don't have
to be a a worldclass sniper or a Navy
Seal, you got to have skill and you have
to understand ballistics. Let me
explain. If you use the mouser in
question, essentially gun dynamics
change regarding how many rounds go down
a barrel. And at 200 yards, there's a
variety of things that can happen. Uh
there is a the the mouser, the the 30
odd six, it's a very flat shooting
round, but it still drops. And some are
speculating he was aiming for the head.
He went down about five inches, hit
here. Yeah, possible. What's notable is
the fact that that that rifle was scoped
for a cold shot. That is to say,
Stephen, that that that whoever did the
shot, it's this guy. Not saying it
wasn't him. I'm saying if it was him, he
had to understand the ballistics of a
cold rifle
and that that what that barrel would do
versus a warm rifle barrel. So, this
this took some thinking and skill. This
was not something that he just decided
one day, oh, I'm going to go grab a
mouser, go up there and set up. And the
other thing people have to understand
that shoot that you just can't put a
scope on the rifle. Oh, oh, a scope.
We'll put a scope on. No, no, no, no. To
make the rifle effective, you have to
zero the scope in. One of the things I
do, I've got a weapon over here. I don't
know if I could bring it out if you all
want, but I had to make sure that the
dot, the red dot at 100 meters is where
that bullet's going to go. That so you
have to basically do things to adjust it
and that takes time. So my question is,
where did this kid learn this stuff?
Where did he zero his rifle? Did he have
help? Uh who was his instructor? These
are all, I think, uh legitimate
questions that have to be answered. So
again, this is not like uh you had to
have Seal Team Six and the and the
people there, but you had to have skill.
This is not something you can go to the
local Walmart, buy the rifle, buy the
scope, put it together, and go do. This
is a this is a a B+ to A minus level
challenge. You've got to have some skill
to do this. And so I don't see a lot of
discussion about about that. And I and
there are some good gun sites out there
trying to be very helpful saying, "Hey,
there's some ballistics questions here
that, you know, need to be answered just
about the weapon itself." And of course,
the round itself. There's some there's
some videos out there that that show
what happens when a 306 hits somebody.
And so I'm not convinced that that was a
standard round because a 306 round would
have probably gone through and kept
going. And so far they can't they can't
say where the round is at. I do know
from my law enforcement contracts to my
point that he was decapitated instantly
internally that when that hit and you
can see it it basically I've talked to a
couple of medical professionals the
moment it hits. That's why you see his
arms go up because after that initial
second of the impact
he it was it was over and that's why his
body froze like that. So I'm not trying
to be gruesome. I'm just trying to be
direct here to say, you know, something
happened and I'm not convinced that that
was a 306 standard bullet because that
that a 306 would have done different
things. It would have gone on. It would
have gone through. Just saying. So,
especially at that range. So there's
some things, Stephen, that as a as a
military intelligence, a army officer
and law enforcement adviser,
there's some things that really bother
me about what we don't know. And I I
hope I'm not sounding paranoid, you
know, I'm just just trying to lay them
out there.
>> So here's some breaking news, Colonel
Schaefer, that's uh just just coming
out. Uh this is coming out of Steven
Crowder. They've obtained Utah County
Sheriff offer office internal documents
uh detailing that Tyler Robinson used
his cell phone at 11:53.
So about 20 minutes before uh who was he
talking to? What what were they
communicating about?
>> Yeah.
>> And what about uh one of the group chats
where they were talking about a rifle
drop off rifle pickup? That might
explain why there's no video of him
going on. And we certainly know the
video they shared of him coming off. Uh
there's there's no gun there. There's no
gun. It's not wrapped in a towel. It's
not in a box. Uh we we need more
details, but can they can they track
down who this uh phone call went to?
>> The answer is yeah. Um,
so I said this a few days ago on again
on Newsmax. The um
the way the NYPD functions, there's
there's some really cool algorithms out
there that will basically take a phone
call, link into link the two phone calls
together, integrate uh location data of
the phones and tower data. the tower
then can actually give you a hint of
where cameras are at. Imagine that.
>> So if you know a certain tower is a
certain place, you can basically start
looking for cameras that were like on on
that area. So that's why you see a lot
of the time in NY and I'm not giving
away secrets. NYPD talks about this that
they they use cameras to reconstruct the
activities of a criminal or terrorist
after the event because they can trace
it all the way back. Same thing here.
The question becomes again technical
expertise and political will. Are they
going to do it?
>> Yeah,
>> those are questions I can't answer. I I
again I can I can tell you what I'd be
advising because by by the that's one of
the reasons Dave Decar asked me to be
his adviser for situations like this
where I could sit by his side and help
advise on some of these things that that
would come up like this. Just saying. So
>> I I believe that's how they were able to
track Luigi Manion actually the CEO of
United Healthcare. They just went camera
by camera and built this. That's why
it's so frustrating. They're saying
that's right. Okay, we're we're going to
release two photos. one of him kind of
looking up and then one of him kind of
looking down. And that photo ultimately,
you know, got back to the father who
convinced him to turn himself in. But
where where's the rest of the video? Uh
many are wanting to know. Now, Cash
Patel uh came out and said that they
they've linked at least 20 people.
They're going to be questioning them. Uh
we we should not assume that they are
are guilty before they're talked to. But
listen to this.
>> Back to the group chats real quick.
There's more than 20 individuals. But
this is a great point. I want to lay out
how this works. People thinks we can
just get in these group chats and
immediately find out who's in them. We,
the FBI, are the investigatory body
supporting multiple prosecutions and
ongoing investigations. And that's
another point. Our investigation at the
FBI is ongoing. Um, and there are scores
of people in this Discord chat room. But
we have to effectuate legal process. We
have to go out there with search
warrants so that if prosecutors want to
later use this evidence. It's not
tainted by being illegally obtained. We
the FBI are running the investigation
pointly on the Discord chat group. There
are scores of individuals that are going
to be spoken to. There are also lots of
family members and friends that have
already been spoken to. And one more
point on forensics. We were able to
obtain in record time the text message
chain between the suspect and his living
partner as well as other uh critical
cellular information from our cast team
that analyzes cell phone data towers in
the area to pinpoint the locations of
the suspect and other individuals he was
speaking with. This is critical
information that the FBI processed and
got to prosecutors so they can lawfully
use it in a court of law. very curious
to see who that final phone call was.
Um, but they have been able to get in
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>> So, uh, I appreciate his challenges as a
retired, uh, special agent doing, you
know, I was an Army counter intelligence
special agent, so I understand legal
predicates, probable cause, all that. I
get it. Uh, this is where law
enforcement, local law enforcement
partnerships come into it. State and
local, Stephen, don't have the same
restrictions as feds, as the feds do. As
a matter of fact, uh there's things NYPD
can do that we could not do as as
federal officers. Just saying. And
that's it's good and bad. There's some
things they can look at we can't. So, uh
local partnerships getting into those
chats. You don't need a warrant if
you're a local law enforcement. You can
just go do it. So, there's some
advantages there. And it sounds like
they they're kind of working that out.
With that said, uh I I think in the
first 48 hours they made some initial
comments that turned out to be
completely wrong. And so I've said you
need to be it's better to be accurate
and and um diligent rather than first
and wrong.
And I think they lost a lost cred lot of
credibility the first couple days.
That's why we're now having questions
like, okay, what's going on? Uh with
that said, uh I'm not convinced that um
everything that they're looking at is
going to be exploited rapidly enough to
catch the perpetrators. That is to say,
one of my lessons from working counter
drug, working counterterrorism,
these folks anticipate
and use the the uh the lethargy of the
federal system. Federal investigators
can only go so fast, even with state
help. So, uh, evidence can be lost if
you're not moving fast enough. So, there
there's a distinction with a difference.
You need to be moving fast
investigatively.
You don't have to be telling the public
everything you're doing. Just saying.
And I think some of the things Cash said
in that interview is going to come back
to bite him. Just saying. So,
>> yeah, it it may um I I look forward to
getting more details. Let me let me uh
bring up on the screen here. So, there
was a vigil down in Arizona
uh for Charlie Kirk and a a young man, I
think he's about 20, he was walking
through kicking, screaming,
uh you know, kicking over people's
letters and and flowers. Let me go ahead
and and show this to you really quickly.
>> Sure.
>> So, a guy in a BYU shirt grabs him,
throws him out. the group is able to
move him away. Uh, the police end up
arresting him. This photo's been
released. He's wearing the same t-shirt
as the alleged shooter. I'm just
wondering, are is there going to be
worry about copycat murders, other
conservative podcasters,
um, your your thoughts on any worry or
connection with law enforcement that
way? So, I' I've talked to a number of
high-profile celebrities. You'd know
their names, and at least one is
reconsidering doing some stuff on campus
later this month, and that's it's that
is a concern. And this person is not
fundamentally conservative. This is just
someone who speaks the truth. Um, I
think anytime you're a public figure,
you have to consider the risks of going
out in public. And between you and me, I
hate being in public. And you know, I I
live here in in Edon. Shout out to the
folks who watch me here. They always
stop me in the store and talk. Uh, God
bless them. I don't like going into
public events anymore than I have to. I
don't, you know, I had to be in a a
thing yesterday. Uh, but it it always
worries me because of you've got
crazies. And that's part of the problem
with the transgender culture. I'm just
going to be very direct about this. I'm
not going to mention any words.
There's ample evidence that the
transgender culture who may be looked at
here,
the individuals tend to be very uh
reactive and violent. Just saying it is
what it is. I'm not here to judge. I'm
just saying. And plus, I don't know if
you've noticed uh there's a divorce
going on between LGB
and the TQ. Uh, a lot of friends I have
are openly saying we're not them. We're
not part of that. Don't don't be putting
us the rainbow in with uh the other
group. So, that's that's something
that's ongoing. I'm actually going to
have some of my uh rock and roll friends
who are, you know, may play for both
teams. I don't know. I not that I care.
Uh, coming on some of the media I run to
talk about it. And by the way, that ex
that also includes the gays against
groomers folks. Uh I know uh her that
runs it. People are fed up, really fed
up with the idea that that the trans
community tends to recruit and advocate
for their lifestyle in in schools and
other places, groomers. And so I think
we may come to find there's some of that
in this story. Maybe I'm going on a bit
of a limb here, but I think my Spidey
sense tells me there's going to be more
coming out on that in as we learn more
about what happened in in this instance.
So,
>> okay. Uh Stephen Miller uh was on the
Charlie Kirk show today with Vice
President JD Vance sitting in and
hosting on his behalf. uh he talked
about how one of the last text messages
or messages from Charlie Kirk was how
worried he was about these radicalized
groups and now Stephen Miller is uh
openly talking about what he wants to
do. Let me go ahead and share that with
you in the audience.
>> Sure. Sure.
>> Walk me through at a high level like
what you and I have been working on,
what the whole administration has been
working on to try to make sure that we
don't reward and promote this craziness.
>> Yes. So, it's an excellent question. And
I've said this before and um but it
bears repeating. The last message that
Charlie sent me was um I think it was
just the day before we lost him which is
that we need to have an organized
strategy to go after the leftwing
organizations that are promoting
violence in this country. And
I will write those words onto my heart
and I will carry them out. People ask me
you know what emotions I'm feeling right
now. This is something people say. I
mean you kind of know the answer.
There's incredible sadness, but there's
incredible anger. And the thing about
anger is that unfocused anger or blind
rage is not a productive emotion.
>> Right?
>> But focused anger, righteous anger
directed for a just cause is one of the
most important agents of change in human
history.
>> Showed that. Amen. and we are going to
channel all of the anger that we have
over the organized campaign that led to
this assassination to uproot and
dismantle these terrorist networks. So,
let me explain a little bit what that
means. So,
>> 30 seconds, so be quick, Stephen. the
the organized doxing campaigns, the
organized riots, the organized street
violence, the organized campaigns of
dehumanization, vilification, posting
people's addresses, combining that with
messaging that's designed to trigger
incite violence, and the actual
organized cells that carry out and
facilitate the violence. It is a vast
domestic terror movement. And with God
as my witness, we are going to use every
resource we have at the Department of
Justice, Homeland Security, and
throughout this government to identify,
disrupt, dismantle, and destroy these
networks and make America safe again for
the American people. It will happen, and
we will do it in Charlie's name.
>> All right. So, it it looks like there's
going to be a deep dive into, as you
mentioned, is there grooming? Are they
organized? Are they indoctrinating? Are
they calling for violence? All of that
it sounds like is about to be uh
investigated.
>> Yeah. Well, two things to expand on what
he said. First, I think there's existing
laws which have been ignored, especially
by the last three administrations and
the Trump administration, not because
President Trump ignored it, but because
Bill Bar ignored it. We could we could
talk about Bill Bar all day, but we
won't. So, uh, uh, but I think there's
adequate evidence that Antifa, BLM,
heck, one of the, uh, BLM, uh, members,
one of the, uh, founders was just
convicted of fraud, I think, today as
we're taping. I mean, some of the
criminal activities is just phenomenal.
And yet somehow
we're the ones that are, you know, who
are calling it out or the bad ones. Oh,
you need to get over it. You need to be
forgiving. It's like, no, I don't. Uh I
we need to have accountability. And I
think that's what's happened in the past
all too often, Stephen, is that uh
whenever something like this happens,
the other side says, "Oh, Kumbaya,
we're sorry." It's like, "No, no, no.
Sorry is not good enough this time. Uh
we're going to go after your funding,"
which we've already done with US aid.
Uh, one of the things I'm waiting on,
Stephen, is an investigation of where
all the US aid money was going and where
it was coming back through the NOS's,
national the non-governmental
organizations and think tanks, which I
know it was coming to the source
organizations. Uh, there there are
dozens of organizations that traffic in
hate. Uh, one of the things I'd like to
get to the bottom bottom up, which we
kind of see the evidence of, is paid
protesters. My goodness, Stephen, you
know, some of these people make like 80
to $100,000 a year. Where do I sign up?
>> Right.
>> I mean, it's it's nuts. But they exist.
>> So, how who pays for it? Uh, we used to
see back during the first Trump term
>> uh pallets of rocks and uh bricks
showing up at protest. Who paid for
that?
>> Yeah. and nobody ever wanted to
investigate. So, it's time we
investigate.
>> Just this week, Trump has called for
George Soros and the Open uh society to
be investigated. He says that he's done
tremendous damage and he believes
there's a RICO case. Uh I I I saw this
somebody lovingly uh spray painted rest
in peace Charlie Kirk and within 24
hours free Palestine and Nazi and no
empathy and all these horrible things.
uh destroyed. It didn't didn't even last
>> 24 hours before it went from a tribute
to something horrifying that uh now
they've got to uh paint over. There's
there's a lot of uh I've been very
shocked at the mental illness and the
ugliness. There's a lot of beauty out
there. So, I'm trying to be optimistic
and focus on that. Now, you've uh just
in our final minutes here, Colonel, you
you've got u new material that you're
putting out. I believe it's payw wall so
that you guys can talk about stuff that
you can't talk about on Newsmax and my
show. And tell tell my audience about
that.
>> So, go to Colonel Schaffer, uh Colonel
Tonyshaper.com.
Uh that's kind of the website that talks
about all the things we're doing or you
can go to my ex account. Uh I my ex
account you can now subscribe to me. Uh,
and so we do a couple things now via the
subscriptions. First, we do special
Thursday night debriefings. This
Thursday is my friend Katherine Herage.
Woo. Uh, Katherine and I are friends. I
never hide that, but I think we're going
to have a good discussion about 911
stuff, which you and I talk about a lot
behind the scenes, too. I think there's
a mutual uh interest, let's just say, in
resolving that. And then uh on th on
Sunday nights we do the Sunday debrief
where we talk about the past week events
and the coming week events. Uh my friend
Blaine Holt, General Journal Holt joins
me for that. We're going to have some
other special guests and you can people
can ask questions directly. It's like
you know uh you you can you can
participate directly and ask the
question. I can't always answer it
because I may not know or I can't say
but I'll do my best to give you the the
truth. And so much what I'm seeing,
Stephen, if I don't know if you agree
with it or not, there's so many attempts
on both sides of the political aisle to
to create narratives which do not
resemble the truth. They they use
elements of the truth and try to get
people to believe things which are not
necessarily true. So that's part of what
I I know you do. You try to get through
it. I try to get through it. And I
that's what I'm trying to do here is
give people kind of a a way of
communicating and saying, "Hey, what's
really going on here?" And I I as you
know, I can't always say things on the
air that uh that uh I'd like to because
I get in a lot of trouble. But a lot of
the time I'm pretty I'm pretty accurate
about what's going on ahead of time. Uh
and so that's what people will tend to
get from from the from participating.
>> Okay. I'll put uh direct links so that
people follow that. Thank you so much
for staying uh in the loop on all this
stuff and giving your unique insight.
We'll have you on again in the future. I
hope you have a great rest of your day.
>> Great. Thank you, Stephen. Good seeing
you.