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Steven Crowder Exposes How Western Feminism Confused Olivia Rodrigo About Marriage and Motherhood
Steven Crowder dissects pop star Olivia Rodrigo's conflicting statements about marriage and motherhood from a British Vogue interview, revealing how Western feminism leaves young women confused about their biological instincts and life fulfillment. Crowder argues that Rodrigo's contradictory quotes, rejecting marriage as being a "child bride" while simultaneously declaring she wants to be a mom "more than anything", exemplify the damaging impact of feminist messaging on women. He challenges the notion that life's greatest joy comes from careers and independence rather than family, presenting data on fertility decline with age and historical marriage patterns to argue that modern social engineering works against women's biology and long-term happiness.
The Contradictory Quotes That Reveal a Deeper Problem
Pop star Olivia Rodrigo recently gave an interview to British Vogue that sparked controversy across social media—but for two completely opposite reasons. On March 19th, one quote went viral among feminists: "What am I, a child bride? I hope that young girls know that life is full of so much joy that is unrelated to husbands or kids." Days later, a different quote from the exact same interview gained traction on the other side of the political spectrum: "I want to be a mom more than anything. I already feel like I've done a lot in my career that I've wanted to do and feel more mature for my age than maybe I should. I'm definitely a lover girl. I want to be in something committed and so in love."
The problem isn't just clickbait culture turning icons into whoever people want them to be. These two quotes come from the exact same paragraph of the exact same interview, revealing something more troubling: a young woman who is deeply confused about what she wants. And according to Steven Crowder, that confusion is a direct result of Western feminism.
The Full Context of Rodrigo's Conflicting Statements
Here's the complete quote from British Vogue when asked if Rodrigo is beginning to think about starting a family or marriage: "Oh my gosh, long way from that for sure. What am I a child bride?" she laughs, quoting the show Broad City. "I hope that young girls know that life is full of so much joy that is unrelated to a husband or kids. But that being said, I want to be a mom more than anything. I already feel like I've done a lot in my career that I've wanted to do and feel more mature for my age than maybe I should."
Crowder breaks down the first part of this statement: "I hope that young girls know that life is full of so much joy that is unrelated to a husband or kids." His response is blunt: "No. No, it's not. It's not. It really isn't." He argues that particularly for women, their biological instinct points toward family. While men might find fulfillment in conquest, risk-taking, and providing, for women there is not so much joy unrelated to a husband or kids. There can be fleeting happiness and pleasure—making good money, getting your nails done—but that's not the same as joy.
Crowder defines joy as fulfillment, as happiness in tandem with meaning. Anyone who has had a family doesn't look back and equate their summers on the lake with their kids, bath time, or family moments with getting their eyebrows threaded or career achievements. You may have more fun or pleasure in certain moments, but family brings more joy long-term.
Twenty-Three Is Not a Child Bride
Rodrigo is 23 years old. When she quotes Broad City asking "What am I, a child bride?" and mentions she feels she's already done a lot in her career and feels more mature than her age, Crowder points out how warped this perspective is. Twenty-three is by no means a child bride—you're 13 years off from that. Even 18 is not a child bride; historically, that was the norm.
Crowder explains that we now have something called "second adolescence" where people think you have to go to college for four years of what he calls "glorified alcoholism" and pair bonding with people who will never mean anything in your future life. The median age of marriage in 1950 was 22 years old for men and 20 for women. Now it's 30 and 28 respectively—nearly a decade later. The median age where women had their first child in 1950 was 21. Now it's 27.
This shift isn't natural—it's social engineering. Historically, before modern feminist social engineering, people had their first child at 20, and before that in their teens. The idea that 23 is a child bride isn't in line with historical norms or biology. It's in line with social engineering.
The Biology Western Feminism Tells Women to Ignore
The most fertile years for women are in their 20s, with a 90% chance of fertility. At 35, there's a 60% chance. At 40, it drops to under 20%. The odds of complications increase dramatically with the age of the mother. Using Down syndrome as an example: at age 25, it's 1 in 1,250; at age 35, it's 1 in 400; at age 40, it's 1 in 100. Miscarriage rates tell a similar story: at 25, 1 in 10; at 35, 1 in 5; at 40, 1 in 3. The fertility rates are even higher if you go lower than 25.
Crowder argues that people historically—just like they got up with the sun and went down with the sun based on their circadian rhythm—inherently knew these were the most fertile years. They were getting married in their late teens and early twenties, starting to have their children. The only reason women are doing that later now is because they have been lied to. That seven-year difference in when women are having their first child represents at least two children that women can't have, and it will be much more difficult because they'll be later in life.
Hollywood's Empty Trophy Case
Crowder points to elite feminists in entertainment and media who promote the single, childless lifestyle. He plays clips of various celebrities and media personalities celebrating being single, being "self-partnered," and one actress at an awards show declaring she wouldn't have been able to achieve her success "without employing a woman's right to choose"—referring to abortion.
Crowder asks what their divorce rate is like compared to the general population. It's much higher—pretty much 100% for first-time marriages in Hollywood statistically. What's their drug addiction rate? Off the charts in the entertainment industry. What are their depression rates and SSRI use? Off the charts. How often do you watch a documentary on some rock star or famous actress and realize how sad it is?
He encapsulates what that award-winning actress said: "I'm standing here holding this $150 trophy only because I got to kill my child. That's the swap that was made in front of a room of people that she doesn't care about their opinions. Nobody really wants to be there. These people don't love each other. They're competing with each other." The crowning achievement of her career is to stand there, smile, take pictures, then go home and feel empty wondering what's next. Every time she sees that trophy on the mantle, there could have been a child or a picture of her holding that child. But instead, she has the golden trophy.
Misery Loves Company
Crowder notes that if a woman has a friend who's divorced, their chances of getting divorced themselves goes up significantly, and it goes up proportionally with each friend who is divorced. Women who are unhappy genuinely want to be joined in misery and will give bad advice so that someone makes the same mistakes. If you follow the advice of those in the leftist media, entertainment, and big tech industrial complex, Crowder warns, women will live an unfulfilled, unhappy life and die with many regrets.
He acknowledges the messages women are bombarded with: "Say goodbye to your freedom when you have kids." "It's the hardest thing." "I just wish I could go back to being single." But would you trade all those special moments for a few nights out at the bar or a couple of extra vacations? What about traveling? It's a complete distortion. Crowder understands why women might feel trapped between extremes, but argues there is a different way—it's how things were done for a long time in this country. Understanding that men and women are different and building society around a nuclear family that is ideal for rearing children, impressing upon people that this is what gives life meaning and brings joy.
The Biological Truth Versus Social Engineering
The second part of Rodrigo's quote—"that being said, I want to be a mom more than anything"—is innate, Crowder argues. It's biology and a spiritual truth reflected in biology that we should hold to be self-evident. Women have been guilted out of that instinct, but they've been so gaslit that hearing a white male say it makes them think he's trying to guilt them into it like The Handmaid's Tale, as if men want to breed women. Crowder insists this isn't true. This is what all women wanted since the beginning of time. It's okay to acknowledge that, and it will be more meaningful and fulfilling.
He references this year's best actress winner, Jesse Buckley, who in her acceptance speech said: "Fred, I love you, man. I love you. You're the most incredible dad. You're my best friend, and I want to have 20,000 more babies with you. I do. And Isa, my little girl who is eight months who has absolutely no idea what's going on and is probably dreaming of milk, but this is kind of a big deal and I love you and I love being your mom and I can't wait to discover life beside you."
The Paleo Diet for Marriage and Family
Crowder compares what he's advocating to the paleo diet—doing what your ancestors did. One side (which he shorthand calls the "manosphere," specifically meaning traditional Christians, not red pill influencers promoting promiscuity) is trying to tell women it's okay to acknowledge and work within your biology. Feminism is telling women to ignore it and work against it. Everything in a woman's body—hormones, neurotransmitters—when she's in her early twenties is saying it's okay to want to find a guy, it's okay to want to have kids. That's when she's most likely to achieve that. Feminism says get in the workforce, get a nanny if you have to have kids, your career will be just as rewarding.
One side is telling women to work with their biology. The other is telling them to work against it. Crowder acknowledges that the old way of doing things isn't always necessarily the best—he loves having running water, electricity, a deep freezer. But sometimes modern life gets you off track. Full-time nannies weren't something most families considered because a woman had to work. The approach used to be: Are we right for each other? Are we making a covenant? Great. The man goes out, kills, hunts, brings back, provides, protects. The woman gets to do what her body is screaming at her to do—have children and take care of them. Both approached it like a job, both were given the same accountability as a job, and neither one complained. That's the way it should be.
But it feels like a rude awakening if you've been told to go to college for four years of glorified alcoholism, get a useless degree, pay off your debt, be a boss babe, and then in your thirties or late twenties maybe think about settling down. It's backwards. When Crowder reads Olivia Rodrigo's quotes, the clickbait bothers him, but more than that, it's very sad. A lot of young women are confused. If you hooked women up to a polygraph and asked if they'd like to have kids and get married, Crowder wagers 90% would say yes. Would they rather do that or work as a shift manager? This is social engineering in the face of biology.
The Magic Returns When You Have Kids
Crowder and his co-host discuss wanting to be grandparents for a long time, wanting to meet great-grandkids, watching them make it to high school. They reflect on how Christmas felt magical as a kid—you could barely sleep, couldn't wait. Then you get older and some of that spark is gone. But when you have kids, it comes right back. Imagine Christmas morning without kids if you're in your mid to late thirties. You have to come up with plans, do something different, everything's closed. Or you could just have kids around and every day you're doing something different you didn't even plan—one day saving a toad from the backyard, the next day teaching your kid to ride a bike or watching them experience their first Power Wheels.
Women are told they want to travel, and they act like you're boring if you don't. But who got to travel all the time? No one in the history of ever until quite recently. The best travel movies are road trip movies with kids or films like Home Alone—they all involve kids. There's an old saying: you never know the last time you're going to pick up your kid. One person saw a video captioned "this guy really just picked up his entire world"—it showed a man holding his wife and two or three kids, squatting with his whole family. That's what matters.
Building Lives Together
Before the epidemic of divorces that exists now, couples would be a lot happier with very clear roles. Now you have couples where both come home to an empty house, someone else is cooking or delivering the food, and they really just share a couch. Even before kids, the idea used to be that men and women built lives together. Accomplishing a task with a close friend or spouse is a huge part of bonding—going out and building something together, building a life together. Even better if you can have kids and raise kids together. But to act like everything else is just as fulfilling is simply not true.
Crowder points out the irony: Hollywood always tries to make it seem like the dad is out working, missing all the stuff that really matters, like in a Harry Chapin song. But he's making sure the family can have the stuff that really matters. The same group of people who portray the dad as a business tycoon who's never home as a villain wants to tell young women to go be a boss babe. If it's a dad, it's a tragedy. If it's a woman who's never home and has a childcare provider, she's beautiful and brave. What happens? The relationship collapses, broken families, and it's permeated everything.
Don't Be Angry at Your Biology
Crowder concludes that women don't need to feel bad for acknowledging their biology. They shouldn't be angry at their biology. They should be angry at the people who tell them to ignore it. That's the kind of change he thinks we really need to see. He presents charts showing that while divorce rates are coming down slightly, marriage rates are at historic lows. A comedian friend of his joked that people who are still married in 40 years are going to be treated like an old classic car: "Oh dang, look at them. Is that a 2012 wedding? Wow, still running, huh? That's impressive. How many miles?"
Crowder references a show where characters decide they don't want to get married because they find out their parents' marriage wasn't as nice as they thought, preferring to "choose each other every day" rather than make a covenant. But just because your parents' relationship didn't work out doesn't mean yours will be the same way. His co-host shares that his parents got married because they got pregnant with him in what was supposed to be a one-night thing. It didn't work out, so when he decided to get married, he was careful not to repeat that pattern.
Crowder's co-host also notes that because his parents were divorced, he really wanted to have a committed relationship that worked, so he was going to go the extra mile to make that happen. His wife's parents stayed together, and women whose parents stay together tend to see that as what they want to strive for as well. Crowder observes this reflects male nature to want to right wrongs, to correct and improve upon things—that's how civilizations are built, how technology comes about. Female nature, by contrast, is to maintain, to provide stability to a house and family, not necessarily to change it but to ensure there's consistency.
Video Transcript
Olivia Rodrigo tells British Vogue that
she's a long way from marriage. What am
I, a child bride? I hope that young
girls know that life is full of so much
joy that is unrelated to husbands or
kids. This is her. I want to be a mom
more than anything. But then you also
have a really clear example when you put
it all together of a woman who's very,
very confused. And that's because of
Western feminism. The pop star Olivia
Rodrigo, she's this kind, I guess,
feminist icon. So, is she a hero for the
feminist movement or is she a hero for
the pro-natalist movement? And this is
also sort of exhibit 554Z
in uh clickbait. It depends who you ask.
So, on March 19th, this quote from
Rodrigo, it was all over uh social
media. Al Olivia Rodrigo tells British
Vogue that she's a long way from
marriage. What am I, a child bride? I
hope that young girls know that life is
full of so much joy that is unrelated to
husbands or kids. Okay, I'll go back to
that. But then the Wednesday after that,
another quote started gaining traction
on the other side of the political
spectrum.
I want to be, this is her, I want to be
a mom more than anything. I already feel
like I've done a lot in my career that
I've wanted to do and feel more mature
for my age than maybe I should. I'm
definitely a lover girl. like I want to
be in something committed and so in
love. Here's the thing. These two quotes
come from the exact same paragraph of
the exact same interview.
Jeez, you have no idea.
>> So, yes, you have a problem with
clickbait because people just turn these
these people/ icons into whoever they
want them to be.
But then you also have a really clear
example when you put it all together of
a woman who's very very confused and
that's because of western feminism. So
here's the full quote from Vogue.
Is she beginning to think about the
family she would start? Maybe marriage
like she sings in So American. Oh my
gosh, long way from that for sure. She
quotes Broad City. What am I a child
bride? She laughs. I hope that young
girls know that life is full of so much
joy that is unrelated to a husband or
kids. But uh that being said, I want to
be a mom more than anything. I already
feel like I've done a lot in my career
that I've wanted to do and feel more
mature for my age than maybe I should.
So, I don't know. Um let's kind of break
this down.
I hope that young girls know that life
is full of so much joy that is unrelated
to a husband or kids. Let me just give
you my opinion on that. No. No, it's
not. It's not. It really isn't. And
particularly not for women, their
biological instinct. You you could say
maybe for men, you know, um winning a
war, conquering, taking risks, because
that's a big part of what makes us who
we are since we're designed to provide
and protect. But for women, there is not
so much joy unrelated to a husband or
kids. There can be some fleeting
happiness. There can be pleasure. It's
not the same as joy. Joy means
fulfillment. Joy means happiness
in tandem with meaning. You can find
happiness, you can find fleeting
pleasure in, you know, making some good
money, going to get your nails done. But
at the end of your life, you look back
and anyone who has had a family, they
don't look back and say, "You know what?
My family, my summers on the lake with
my two kids, my my kids curled up in my
lap with chocolate milk in family
moments, bath time. They don't go Yeah.
I' I'd put it about on par with um
getting my eyebrows threaded.
I' I'd put it about on par with, you
know, my career."
>> Yeah. Going on speed dates,
>> right?
>> Yeah. Coaching my son a little league is
almost as good as going to a baseball
game.
>> Right. Exactly. Right. Now, you may have
more fun going to a baseball game. You
may have more pleasure in that moment,
but it's not going to bring you more joy
long term. So, this is a woman who is
conflicted and confused. And by the way,
that makes sense because she is echoing
what she hears adnauseium by elite
feminists in power. There is nothing
better than being in your 30s, still
being hot, maybe having a little bit of
your own money, figuring out what you
want to do with your life, everything,
and having tried that near fantasy and
realizing that it's maybe not all it's
cracked up to be, and then you've got
your whole life still ahead of you.
>> The vibrator is good. And I'm having,
listen, I'm having I'm having
I'm having the kind of sex I never had
in my 20s or in my 30s.
>> Yes. And so that part has been really
exciting. Um, but I'm not missing
relation like a relationship. I'm not
missing the partnership that I think
people think you miss when you're a
terrible person.
>> I never believed the whole I'm happy
single
>> spiel. I was like, this is spiel.
>> Yeah,
>> this is totally interesting the stuff
that we take in and I have to unpack.
>> It took me a long time, but I'm very
happy. I call it being self-partnered,
>> right?
>> I've tried my very best. She's now
engaged in my own making and not just a
series of events that happened to me,
but one that I could stand back and look
at and recognize my handwriting all
over. Sometimes messy and scrawling,
sometimes careful and precise, but one
that I had carved with my own hand. And
I wouldn't have been able to do this
without employing a woman's right to
choose.
>> So, you'll see that from the elites. Let
me ask you, what's their divorce rate
like compared to much higher? Matter of
fact, it's pretty much 100% for
firsttime marriages in Hollywood
statistically. Uh what's their drug
addiction rate? Oh, that's right. Off
the charts in uh the entertainment
industry. Okay. Um what are their
depression rates? SSRI. Oh, that's
right. Off the charts. How often do you
watch a documentary
on some rock star or some famous actress
and you just realize how sad it is? Now,
let me ask you this. How often do you
know somebody who is sad, who is
depressed,
who wants to show the whole world that
they're not? It's almost all of them.
That lady, just to encapsulate what she
said,
I'm standing here holding this $150
trophy only because I got to kill my
child.
That's the swap that was made in front
of a room of people that she doesn't
care about their opinions. Nobody really
wants to be there. These people don't
love each other. They're competing with
each other. They don't really care. Most
of us have tuned out from this. And the
crowning achievement of your career.
Stand there, smile, take some pictures,
and then go home and feel empty because
now what's next? Well, just remember
every time you see that on the mantle,
there could have been a child. It could
have been a picture of you holding that
child. But instead, you've got the
golden trophy. So, congratulations. I
guess you win.
>> Well, this is Yes. And and this is
something too we see a lot. Um,
if a woman has
a friend uh who's divorced, their
chances themselves of getting divorced
goes up significantly. And it goes up
proportionally with each friend who is
divorced. And this is something you see
quite a bit. Women, if they are unhappy,
they genuinely want to be joined in
misery and they will give bad advice so
that someone makes the same mistakes.
You see it all the time. Look, let me be
really clear. If you follow the advice
of those in the leftist media,
entertainment, big tech, industrial
complex, women, you will live an
unfulfilled, unhappy life and you will
die with many regrets.
I know the message that people are
bombarded. It's like, oh, say goodbye to
your freedom when you have kids. Nope. I
know the message is, "Oh my gosh, it's
the hardest thing." Nope. It is
difficult. It's not the hardest thing.
Oh my gosh, I just wish I could go back
to being single. And what what would you
would you trade all those special
moments for a few nights out at the bar
or a couple of extra vacations? What? To
travel?
It's a complete warp. So, I get it. I
get why women in Islam, even though
they'll get the crap beaten out of them
for wearing a burka, they say, "Well,
I'm better off with this than that."
There is a different way. It's how we
did it for a very long time in this
country. Understanding that men and
women are different and that we need to
build society around a nuclear family
that is ideal for rearing children and
impressing upon people that that is what
gives your life meaning and that is what
brings you joy. The next part of the
quote that being said I want to be a mom
more than anything. Yes, that is innate.
It is your biology
and it's a spiritual truth reflected in
biology that we hold to be self-evident.
You have been guilted out of that.
But you've been so gaslit that hearing a
white male say it, you think that I'm
trying to guilt you into that like a
handmaid's tail where we want to breed
you like it's the end of bone tomahawk.
No. This is what all women wanted since
the beginning of time. And my point is,
it's okay and it will be more meaningful
and more fulfilling. And by the way,
this was actually um echoed by this
year's best actress winner, Jesse
Buckley.
>> You,
Fred, I love you, man. I love you.
You're the most incredible dad. You're
my best friend, and I want to have
20,000 more babies with you. I do. I do.
and Isa, my little girl who is eight
months who has absolutely no idea what's
going on and is probably dreaming of
milk, but this um is kind of a big deal
and I love you and I love being your mom
and I can't wait to discover life
besides you.
>> Uh can someone give me How old is Olivia
Rodrigo by the way?
>> I think she's around the late 20s.
>> Late 20s,
>> but yeah, somebody should probably
check.
>> And she was quoting um that show Broads
>> Broad City Sketch comedy show.
>> I was thinking of Girls, right?
>> 23.
>> 23. Okay, it's like what am I a child
bride? Then I I feel like I've already
done a lot in my career that I've wanted
to do and feel more mature than my age.
So maybe I should meaning start a
family. So I don't know. Um
>> think of how warped that is. 23 and this
is something too you'll see from a lot
of angry middle-aged feminists. 23 is by
no means a child bride.
>> No, you're 13 years off.
>> Yeah. 18 is by no means a child bride.
To be clear, that's historically was was
the norm. We now have something called
second adolescence where people think
you have to go to college. Four years of
glorified alcoholism of of pair bonding
with people who will never mean anything
to you in your future life. Well, the
median age of marriage marriage in 1950
was 22 years old for men, 20 for women.
Now it's 30 and 28 respectively.
>> So some things are the same. There's a
two-year difference usually.
>> Yeah. Men are usually a little bit
older. uh the overall age has just gone
up by nearly a decade. The median age uh
where women had their first child 1950
it was 21 was a median age. Now it's 27.
>> Jeez, that's massive. Now when people
say child bride, what's funny is they'll
try and tell you society, man. It's this
you break away from society. The
leftists, they'll tell you that, right?
Well, hold on a second. This is entirely
social engineering. If people think that
23 is a child bride and you go, wait,
historically before this modern feminist
social engineering, people had their
first child at 20 and before that they
would have had them in their teens. And
now you for some reason think that 23 is
a child bride. That means it's not in
line with the historical norm. That
means it's not in line with biology.
It's in line with the social
engineering. Keep in mind the most
fertile years for women are in their
20s,
right? 90% chance of fertility. At 35,
there's a 60% chance. At 40, it goes to
under 20%.
The odds of complications increase
dramatically with the age of the mother.
You use let's use Down syndrome as an
example. At age 25, it's 1 in, 1250. At
age 35, it's 1 in 400. At age 40, it's 1
in 100.
>> Wow.
>> The mis the miscarriage chance at 25, 1
in 10. 35, 1 in 5. 40, 1 and 3.
>> By the way, it's even lower if you go
lower than 25. These were the only
numbers we could find. The most fertile
years are those years between 18 and I
think it's honest I've seen charts 23 24
and it starts starts to crest doesn't
mean that you're an old maid at 25 or 26
what I'm saying is that people
historically just like people before
they had watches they'd get up with the
sun they'd go down with the sun right
your circadian rhythm was determined by
exactly what you saw people before the
new social engineering they inherently
knew these are the most fertile years
they were having they were getting
married in their late teens, early 20s,
starting to have their children. The
only reason that you are doing that
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>> And having more children, too, by the
way. You may go like, "Oh, that's only a
sevenyear difference." Yeah, that's at
least two children that you can't have,
>> right? Even if you wanted them, most
likely it'll be much more difficult
because you'll be much later on in life
and the chances of that happening go
down. Yeah. As we just saw. Yes.
>> That was that quote, "Do the hard things
in the morning."
>> Yeah. From Marcus Aurelius. He said, "Do
the It wasn't a but he said do the the
highest intensity activities in the
morning so that later in the, you know,
because you're less likely to do them if
you do them later in the day."
>> Same thing with parenting, I think.
>> Yeah.
>> I mean, Katherine and I had I mean, we
had kids not super young, but uh what 21
and 23.
>> Yeah. It's not super young, but uh we
have an older one now, but it's going to
be nice. Daughter's going to graduate
high school. I'm still still going to be
my uh
40. I'll be
>> I'll be 70.
>> Be nice. Well,
>> yeah. You'll be you'll be an old maid.
>> Well, it and what's funny to me is
everyone's like, "Let's get back to n
let's eat like our ancestors." Even
though your ancestors, depending on
geography, depending on climate, they
ate differently. It's, hey, look at all
of these xenoestrogens
uh in the body right now. You know,
these these indocrine disruptors. Let's
drink out of glass bottles. Let's touch
grass. Let's get earthing mats. Okay.
But feminism has told you to do the
opposite of what is biologically really
clear. And I'll hear people like that's
the feminine from the manosphere. Okay,
let's just compare manosphere versus
femin. I'm not talking about the red
pill people who say go sleep with a
bunch of and looks max. I'm
talking about people who are more
traditional Christians who are telling
you that you probably should focus on
complimentarian roles and having a
family. Let's just take feminism and
manosphere for shorthand. Okay?
You may think that they're villains, but
the manosisphere
is trying to tell women that it's okay
to acknowledge and work within your
biology. The other side, feminism is
telling you to ignore it and to work
against it. Everything in your body,
your hormones,
your neurotransmitters, when you are a
woman in your early 20s, it it's telling
like, hey, you want to find a guy, it's
okay. Hey, you want to have kids? It's
okay. That's when you're most likely
to achieve that. Feminism is saying get
in the workforce. If you have to have
kids, get a nanny.
Your career will be just as rewarding.
One is telling you to work with it. Just
just consider it the Paleo diet for
marriage and sex. Doing what your
ancestors did.
And if you approach it too, here's the
thing. Now it's it is complicated. The
old way of doing things isn't always
necessarily the best. I love having
running water. I love having I love
having electricity. I I I love having a
a deep freezer so I can uh I can have my
meat and I can thaw it. I love that. I
love that modern technology. But yeah,
sometimes it does get you a little bit
far off the beam. If you approach it and
go, "All right, this is how people used
to do it. Nannies, that wasn't even
something that was considered for most
families, meaning a full-time nanny
because a woman had to work. It was all
right. Are we right? Are we picking each
other? Are we making a covenant? Okay,
great. man, go out, kill, hunt, bring
back, provide, protect, and I'm going to
get to do what my body is screaming at
me to do, have children, and take care
of them. Both were approached like a
job,
and both
were given the same accountability as a
job,
and neither one bitched.
That's the way it should be. That's
okay. But it feels like a rude awakening
if you've been told to go to college,
four years of glorified alcoholism, get
a useless degree, pay off your debt, be
a boss babe, and then in your 30s or
late 20s, maybe think about settling
down and finding somebody. It's ass
backwards. And so when I read this from
Olivia Rodrigo, first off, the clickbait
bothers me, but it's very sad. A lot of
young women are confused.
Lot of if you were to hook women up to a
polygraph, do you think that you would
like to have kids? Would you like to get
married? Guarantee you everyone,
almost everyone, I'd wager 90% yes.
Would you rather do that or work or work
as a shift manager?
But this is a social engineering in the
face of biology.
>> I think of a lot a lot of stuff, man.
Like I I want to be a grandparent like
for a while.
>> Yeah.
>> I don't Yeah. I I look at my my
grandparents and where my parents are,
my kids. Like I want I want a long time
with my grandkids.
>> Yeah.
>> It'd be nice to meet grand uh great
grandkids. That'd be nice.
>> Yeah.
>> I don't need it, but I I'd like to spend
some time with them. I'd like to see
them make it to high school.
>> I mean, just a little thing. Just think
of, you know, I don't know. When you
were a kid, it was like Christmas. It
was like magical and all this, right?
You couldn't you couldn't wait. You
could barely go to sleep. And then you
get older and you like it. You spend
time with family, but a little bit of
that spark is gone.
>> It's right back.
>> I can't imagine.
>> When you have kids, just think about it.
Like it feels like being you're like,
"Oh my god, I are they asleep? Can you
can you imagine?"
>> Imagine it. Christmas morning, what are
you doing without the kids?
>> Right. I know exactly what, you know,
mid to late 30s. What are you doing?
>> Yeah.
>> Now you got to come up with a plan. Now
you got a you got a girlfriend. You got
a wife. Now you got to go, oh, I have to
plan something. Oh, we have to do
something. We don't have kids.
What are we going to do? Everyone's
closed.
>> Yeah.
>> We got to We got to make plans for for
this. We got to make plans for every
day. You got to do something different.
>> Yep. Or you could just have kids around
and every day you are doing something
different. You didn't even plan it.
>> One day you Yeah. One day you're, you
know, you're you're saving a toad from
the backyard. You don't know why you're
saving a toad cuz they're poisonous on
the back and you don't want to save it
because you know you're going to save
it. It's going to come right back to
your backyard. It's going to be right
there. It's going to poison your dog.
You know it. It's happened once before.
But then the next day you're like, "Hey,
take your hand off your penis. WHY ARE
YOU TOUCHING IT ALL THE TIME?" And then
you have to spend three hours on that.
It's fun.
>> That was you, Josh. So that was your
wife.
>> But just think about really like like
Christmas or learning to ride a bike or
your first Power Wheels. Like
>> you would trade that for
a beach weekend at Turks and Cakeos.
>> No.
>> Like that's that's a big thing to women
go. I want to travel. I want someone who
wants to travel
>> and they act like you're boring if you
don't. You do you realize who didn't get
to travel all the time? Like everyone
since the history of ever until quite
recently. It's fine to do it.
>> Best travel movies. Best travel movies
are uh road trip movies with kids.
>> Yep.
>> Or stuff like Home Alone.
>> Yeah.
>> Best travel movies got kids involved
>> and they find you travel with your kids
>> that their vacation was at home all
alone. Stop it.
>> No, but all those things it's like you
want to compare that. It's not I find
myself too after I
>> if you buy the lie. That's the only way
that you can do this. The only way that
you can look at that and go, "Yeah,
that's going to be a better life
trajectory for me is if you just buy
into this lie." And women used to not
tell that lie to each other. They also
used to not tell it to the next
generation,
>> right? They used to go, "Hey, trust me,
have kids. You're going to love it. Find
a good man. Have children." So deeply
into them. Soak up every sweet moment of
them wanting to cuddle with you because
one day it'll stop. Of putting you to
bed because or putting them to bed cuz
one day that will stop. And you just go
down the list.
>> Yeah.
>> And it makes life worth living in a way
that you never even knew.
>> There's that old saying, you never know
the last time you're gonna pick up your
kid.
>> Yeah. Right.
>> I I think about that a lot. I thought
about it.
>> Yeah. Mine are heavy.
>> Yeah. A few weeks
>> holding a rock to kill me with.
>> A few weeks ago, I saw a video uh you
know on Instagram or whatever and the
caption was this guy really just picked
up his entire world
>> and it was a guy. He had his wife in his
hands and then like two or three kids
came and hopped on and he was and he was
squatting. He was holding his whole
family up and I was like, "Oh man, I got
inspired." So I went into the living
room. My wife and daughter were there
and I I picked him up and then I I think
I pulled my calf but I picked them I
picked them both up. My daughter's 11.
She's like 5'5
>> and uh
>> she's tall.
>> She has I can't pick her up, but I I was
able to do it that day, but just for
picking up funny. Yeah, I know.
>> But even then, even before I know, look,
uh no, not everyone can have kids. And
sometimes, by the way, you end up being
a great steparent. And but again, that's
because you still have the beam. If you
get you're like, okay, well, we can't
have kids. You still start with all
right, you want to find someone who
you'd want to have kids with, and that
person is meaningful to you, too. before
the before the epidemic of divorces
exists now. You know, couples would be a
lot happier if you still had those very
clear roles cuz you know what? He'd be
really happy to come home to usually.
Now you have a couple. It's like we're
married but he comes home to an empty
house. He comes home to an empty house
and you come home and someone else is
cooking or delivering the food. You
really just share in a couch.
Even before kids, the idea used to be
that men and women built lives together.
And that if you've ever actually
accomplished a task with a close friend
or your spouse, you know that that is a
huge part of bonding is going out taking
and building something together,
building a life together. And even
better if you guys can have kids, raise
kids, but to act like everything else is
just as fulfilling.
I mean, it's it's just it's not. And
it's so funny because Hollywood always
tries to make it seem like the dad is a
Harry Chapen song and he's out work.
He's out doing work and he's missing all
the stuff that really matters. Well,
he's making sure that you guys can have
the stuff that really matters. But the
same group of people where the dad is
always the business tycoon prick wants
to tell young women to go be a boss
babe. If it's a dad, it's a Harry Chapen
song. If it's a woman who's never home
and has a child care provider, oh my
god, she's beautiful and brave. And what
happens? The relationship collapses.
broken families and it's permeated
everything. You don't need to feel bad
for acknowledging your biology.
Shouldn't be angry at your biology. You
should be angry at the people who tell
you to ignore it. And that's the kind of
change that I think we really need to
see. I know uh we probably if there's
something else, but we'll grab a couple
chats and then go because I know we've
gotten
>> Yeah, there were just two real quick
charts. So, one I'm going to give you is
that you know, fortunately divorce rates
are coming down a little. You can see
that giant spike when feminism really
kicked off. But but in light of this
next one which shows that marriage rates
are marriage
>> really really low.
>> Wow.
>> So that's one of the contributing you
know factors to it.
>> I have a I have a comedian friend. He he
uh he got married around the same time I
did and grew up Christian grew up in the
church pastor and stuff like that. And
uh he he made a joke that uh people that
are still married in like you know 40
years are they're going to be treated
like it's an old classic car.
>> Yeah. Like, oh, dang. Look at them. Is
that a 2012 wedding? Wow. Wow. Still
running, huh? Right.
>> That's impressive. Wow. How many miles?
Wow.
>> I was just watching this show. Something
very bad will happen. It was great. The
first few episodes and it become some
feminist But, um, then it's
like, you know, they just there's a
scene where they decide they don't want
to get married because they find out
their parents marriage wasn't as nice as
they thought. Like, I don't want to do
this. I I want to choose every day to be
with you because every day we choose
each other and it's worth it and not
every day is going to feel that way and
going to be worth it. And they they act
like that's more romantic
than a covenant and a commitment that
you are going to choose each other each
other no matter how you feel.
>> Just because your parents relationship
or marriage wasn't as good doesn't mean
that yours is going to be the same way.
Just because it's marriage, you got to
look at how their marriage worked out.
My parents didn't work out. Uh, they got
married because they got pregnant with
me.
>> I think it was I'm pretty sure it was
supposed to be a one night thing.
>> Got pregnant. Uh, whoops. Let's do this
family thing, I guess.
>> Yeah.
>> And it didn't work out. So, when I
decided to get married, I was like, "Oh,
it's it's not going to be a girl. I'm
just not I'm not going to knock up a
girl,
>> right?
>> And then marry her."
>> Yeah.
>> I'm going to be careful.
>> And I get up there problems, too, with
the modern institution of marriage. But
>> I would have liked to wait a little
longer, too. I'm not going to lie. I
would have But you know what? You you
want to eat the turkey leg, you can't
wait till the end of the meal. You got
to grab that turkey leg.
>> Wow.
>> Or someone else is going to snatch it up
and then their mouth's going to be all
over it.
>> I don't fully understand the analogy,
but I do understand that. Yeah. Yeah.
>> No, no. It's It's my mouth only.
>> Treat women like a turkey leg.
>> Love you, babe. You're my turkey leg.
>> You are my turkey leg.
>> It's kind of romantic, dude.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> It's kind of a funny position. I I find
that, you know, I I don't know if it's
accurate for everyone, but for me, my
wife, it was it was something where my
parents were divorced as well. Uh, I
found that because of that, I really
wanted to have a committed relationship
that worked. So, I was going to go the
extra mile to make that happen.
>> My wife's parents stayed together and I
feel like women whose parents stay
together tend to see that as what they
want to strive for as well. Yeah.
>> So, it is a weird juosition there.
>> Yeah. Well, I think it's part of male
nature to want to write wrongs, you
know, to want to correct it and improve
upon it. That's how we build
civilizations. That's how technology
comes about. It's taking an existing
element and adding to it.
>> Um whereas uh the female nature is to
maintain it, to maintain a house, to
maintain a family, right? It's not
necessarily to add to it and change it.
It's to make sure that there's some
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