Surrounded by 20 Woke College Kids: Charlie Kirk Debates College Students on Hot-Button Issues

September 8, 2024

In this Jubilee debate, Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk faces off with college students on controversial topics including abortion, the value of higher education, gender identity, and politics. The debate showcases both Kirk’s direct debating style and students’ attempts to challenge his assertions, resulting in heated exchanges that illuminate the deep ideological divides on today’s college campuses.

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Claim #1: Abortion is Murder and Should be Illegal

Charlie Kirk defines abortion as "the forcible ending of the viability of a being in utero otherwise known as a fetus," and murder as "the intentional taking of life with intent."

Juliana (Catholic student): "I think there's a big difference between cells in utero than a living breathing existing being. While I do believe it's murder and that's just my personal belief, I don't believe in telling people what to do with their bodies."

NAA: "A fetus is not a species yet. It's technically classified as a parasite until it is viable."

Kirk's Counter: "What does fetus mean in Latin? It means little human being."

Claim #2: College is a Scam

Kirk defines a college scam as "where a majority of people who will go through the institution or business, they're not getting their money's worth, their time's worth, and they're being deceived when they sign up."

  • National graduation rate: 59%
  • 11 million jobs open don't require a college degree
  • Trade jobs like plumbing and welding offer $80,000 entry salaries

Claim #3: Trans Women Are Not Women

Kirk defines a woman as "an adult female of XX chromosomes"

Student Definition: "A woman is somebody who identifies as a woman"

Kirk's Response: "That's like saying a table is something that identifies as a table."

Claim #4: Kamala Harris is a DEI Candidate

Kirk argues Harris was chosen primarily for diversity reasons

Mason: "The whole conversation about affirmative action is based on an imaginary scenario of a super-qualified white man being passed over."

Closing Perspectives

"Charlie's a talented guy. There's a reason why he spoke at the RNC. He's media trained, he's had conversations like this before, and he's built a career educating college students."

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