Remember when I told you guys that now
go to go back to us just real quick.
Remember when I told you guys if you
think Candace Owens is insane? I just
want you to comment yes or no in the
comment section. Remember when I told
you guys that when all this stuff starts
cooling down from Candace Owens and she
starts to get crazier and crazier and
when Turning Point USA gets their feet
underneath them, remember when I told
you they're going to start suing people?
They're going to start going after
people. And rightfully so, by the way,
you're falling for a trap where you make
Candace Owens rich
and she's not worried about a cease and
desist or getting sued, but you going to
be
>> well, now we're here. So, it was uh and
this is one million% verified now even
by Turning Point themselves. Um,
TurningPoint USA has now started sending
cease and desist letters um to
influencers that have helped Candace
Owens spread lies.
It has been said that now her supporters
are scrambling and deleting post as we
speak. The quote influencers are now
pretending as if they never said all of
the things that they're on record
saying. I wonder if that's what happened
to Evan Kilgore.
He changed his tune pretty quick, didn't
he?
>> Possibly.
>> Possibly.
>> So, so here's the thing. If you believe
that Turning Point is justified in doing
this, I want you to comment yes or no.
And if it's no, I want to talk about why
people think that that is. But, but
here's the thing. You have the freedom
in this country to say whatever you
want.
That does not protect you from lawsuits.
Mm-m.
>> Freedom of speech protects you from
going to prison immediately for talking
against the king. You know what I'm
saying? Like like like that's what the
freedom of speech is for. It is not make
you immune from freedom of conse or or
from the repercussions of you invoking
your freedom of speech. Tommy Lren said
it best many many many years ago. Just
because you have the right to do
something doesn't always mean it's the
right thing to do.
You see, in this country, unlike other
religions and other societies, if you go
out and have an affair on your wife, no
one's murdering you or your wife goes
out and has an affair on you. Nobody's
murdering her. But that happens in some
societies and cultures.
But that don't make it right. [laughter]
And and that's where we are. We're
confusing having the right to do
something with it is the right thing to
do. And there are a lot of people that
are going to find out now.
>> Yeah, buddy.
>> And my thing is this. This is my
question to Candace Owens directly of
all the millions of dollars you've made
spreading all the lies, all the
delusion, all of the insanity, all of
the the vitrial hate towards Turning
Point USA. and you
brainwashing
all of these people that are easily
brainwashed andor their micro or
mid-tier influencers that are just
trying to make a buck and they see you
making handover fist.
Are you going to donate to their legal
fees?
If you think that she should comment yes
or no in the comment section because
after all the biggest proponent for all
of the lies, misinformation,
uh, conspiracies, insanity, uh, Turning
Point USA has had to up their security.
People that work for Turning Point can't
even get in the freaking building.
Certain people have had to go into
hiding. All of this, you have ruined
people's lives.
you, Candace Owens, were the number one
person behind it.
So, I wonder if the person that says
we're all in this together and only us
are going to fight for truth and only we
I wonder if that relates to your
pocketbook helping them pay their bills.
See, what's going to happen is exactly
what's happening now. I think Candace
made a made a post.
>> Difficult to put into words how terrible
of an idea it was for Turning Point USA
to send out this season desist letter.
I'm at a point where I think someone
internally absolutely detests Erica and
permanently feeds her terrible ideas.
It's the only thing that makes sense at
this point. I again offer my consulting
services to TPUSA for a monthly
retainer. We can end this corporate crap
show.
So, in other words, all of you that
listen to Candace Owens,
you're on your own.
>> Yeah. I I have a question, though. You
better pray to God you were right
[clears throat]
>> because you are so uber talented and
knowledgeable about being sued.
[laughter]
So just lay it out. Lay it out for the
audience here. So by Turning Point
finally sending out cease and desist
orders as far as they're concerned
legally like what do they have in order
to send those out? like like are they
conf I mean they're confident enough to
send these out and if you don't then
then what? So I you know what I'm
saying? So how do you feel about that?
>> Well, if you don't then you get sued.
And so somebody released the full like
one of the full cease and desist
letters. I don't know if you can find
that really quick.
>> Let me see if I can look for it.
>> But it basically like I read it. It's
pretty in-depth. It's like this episode
you said this. All right. This is
actually the truth. Blah blah blah blah
blah. That's not true. on this episode
you said this this is actually the truth
d that's not true we're asking you to
cease and desist all of these talks
and then that particular person has now
made a video about the cease and desist
>> yeah it's long
>> here's the thing we'll go to it let's
try to read it really quick I'll just
read a couple points all right and then
I'll explain to you what happens with
the justice system um no no no get get
me get me the next page page. Give me
the next page.
All right, here we go. November 15th,
2025 episode. In your November 16th, 25
episode uh podcast bombshell, did
Turning Point USA commit fraud. You made
numerous false claims, including Charlie
Kirk ordered a Doge style audit that was
never conducted. Quote, "Someone at
Turning Point decided not to file 990s
for TPE, TPA, and ATP in FY24. In 2023,
650,000 may have been funneled from
TurningPoint USA through TPA to TP pack
to evade campaign finance restrictions.
With [clears throat] respect to the
audit statement, your video
misrepresents the basic content of Mr.
Kirk's memo. TPUSA never planned a Doge
style audit. Indeed, Turning Point USA
COO announcement concerning the Doge
effort never used the word audit.
Rather, the announcement makes clear
that TPUSA was doing what it is always
pledged to donors, ensuring it was being
efficient with its funds and time. They
had an audit every year. That's the
thing that's already been disproven to
Candace's point. They have an audit.
Your comment about 990s is also
potentially false. Uh the TP entities
timely filed their 990s for FY24. This
is easily to prove. You just look it up
and you can see it. Finally, contrary to
your claims regarding the 650,000, that
money actually went from Turning Point
action to Turning Point USA as a
reimbursement for event expense. There
was nothing nefarious about the trailer.
Okay, so this is the thing. So, you send
this cease and desist letter out. If
they don't do it, you are getting sued
out of the ever living planet. And
here's the thing. Go back to the first
page of that. This is the key words
here. All right? And again, just to be
clear, I stand with Turning Point being
aggressive like this one million%. The
first page says it all at the very top.
Go to the very top. [snorts] Demand to
cease and desist defamatory comments.
Defamation. This is what this is. This
is your last chance to stop or we're
going to sue you for defamation. Now,
what is defamation? You have to
willingly be a you have to be able to
prove beyond a shadow of doubt that this
person's actions hurt you and in Turning
Point USA's case financially.
If you can prove that this person's
comments hurt you financially, which I
don't think it can be argued at this
point. I'm curious how many donors have
pulled out from Turning Point USA
because of Candace and all her
influencers lies and all of this.
These people are screwed. Listen to me
right now. If you are a micro or a
mid-tier influencer and you are still
pedalling this Turning Point USA crap, I
am begging you because unlike Candace
Owens, I do care what happens to you. I
am begging you to stop.
>> Mhm.
>> Because that you Candace Owens doesn't
give a crap about you and she will let
your life be ruined to line her own
pockets. She does not care
because she'll say this, "Hey, at the
end of the day, I never told any of
these people to do this."
>> Uhhuh. Like I I'm not responsible for
what other people choose to do based off
of my show.
>> That's exactly what she'll say. That's
exactly what she'll do. And you know it.
If you think Candace Owens should cough
up some money, maybe she'll start a
GoFundMe page.
>> Oh.
>> To help pay for some of these people's
uh legal expenses, maybe she should do
that.
>> But she's insane. And Charlie Kirk's a
time traveler and has the ability to
manipulate electricity
when he runs underneath it. So that's
where we are with that. [laughter] So
good good luck with your prophet
prophetess or whatever they call it.
>> Prophetic.
>> No, no, she's a girl. So it's not a
prophet. It's a pro
>> prophetess. Sure.
>> Yeah. Good luck getting her to help