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Adam Carolla and Dr. Drew Debate Reactions to Charlie Kirk's Killing and Cultural Double Standards
Adam Carolla and Dr. Drew Pinsky sit down for the first time since Charlie Kirk's killing to work through their reactions, both noting they'd interviewed him and appeared on his show, before diving into why the public response to his death feels so different from past tragedies. Carolla argues that a lot of political disagreement isn't really about differing opinions but about policies that simply don't produce results, from education and crime to border enforcement, and that the people defending those policies avoid tough interviews because they can't defend the outcomes. The conversation moves through comparisons to Fauci's vaccine messaging, the case of Kilmar Abrego Garcia, and the absence of riots after Kirk's death compared to the aftermath of George Floyd's killing, before Carolla warns about the danger of casually comparing political opponents to Hitler and Nazi Germany. Dr. Drew, working to understand both sides of the reaction, brings in Rob Henderson's research on how people with dark triad traits can weaponize social justice language. The two close by reacting to Emmy night speeches about the state of the country before Carolla runs through his upcoming tour stops.
Processing the Reaction to Charlie Kirk's Death
Adam Carolla opens by noting he and Dr. Drew haven't talked since Charlie Kirk's killing, calling him a real nice guy he'd interviewed and appeared alongside on his show. Dr. Drew says the tragedy of the shooting itself is, in a grim sense, something he's come to expect in modern life, but that witnessing a violent act visually made this different, comparing it to why medieval kings carried out public executions: people react differently when they witness a body being violated. He says what's fascinated him since is the reaction itself, describing it as a constant back-and-forth where people insist their opponents are welcome to hold different opinions, while also suggesting there's an underlying question of who is simply right and who is wrong on major issues.
Why Carolla Says Some Policies Don't Work
Carolla uses the debate around Black communities, crime, and George Floyd as an example, arguing the consistent, statistically-backed factor is the decline of fathers in the home and a lack of focus on education and family, tracing it partly to welfare policy that historically excluded fathers from households receiving benefits. He and Dr. Drew go back and forth on how much responsibility rests with the community itself versus policy, with Carolla arguing that voters have followed leaders, in his view, without their best interests at heart. He extends the argument broadly: on education funding, border policy, and defunding the police, he argues decades of one set of policies haven't produced results, framing his own approach as simply diet and exercise: be prompt, be polite, stay in school, delay having children, and don't get in trouble with the police.
A Debate Over Who Speaks for Whom
Carolla argues that public figures like Whoopi Goldberg, Sunny Hostin, Al Sharpton, or local mayors don't actually improve the lives of the people they claim to speak for, comparing it to why someone might dismiss the relevance of a wealthy lawyer or movie star's advice on their own struggles. He draws a parallel to his own politics, saying he has more in common personally with California Governor Gavin Newsom than with commentator Larry Elder, but would still prefer Elder's policies in charge, arguing that defaulting to a candidate because they look like you, rather than because of their policies, is its own form of prejudice.
Comparing Media Silence to Political Cowardice
The conversation turns to who is and isn't willing to defend their positions in unfriendly interviews. Carolla argues that figures like Dr. Anthony Fauci criticized Fox News viewers for vaccine hesitancy but never went on Tucker Carlson's show to make the case directly, just as he says Kamala Harris and local health officials like Barbara Ferrer avoided tough interviews. He contrasts this with Donald Trump's willingness to discuss his border and tax positions on any platform, arguing that an unwillingness to defend a position in a hostile format suggests the position itself can't hold up to scrutiny, concluding that his opponents would rather call somebody a name and walk away than debate policy directly.
Drawing Lines to Nazi Germany
Carolla warns about the danger of rhetoric that casually brands political opponents as Nazis or fascists, arguing that dehumanizing language implying an opponent threatens your existence is a small step from violence, and that repeated comparisons risk desensitizing people to the actual historical violence used by the Nazis and Mussolini's regime to consolidate power. He argues that claims of armed insurrection, secret disappearances, and a fascist takeover of America don't match the reality on the ground, pointing to the absence of riots after Kirk's death as a contrast to the extended unrest that followed George Floyd's killing.
The Kilmar Abrego Garcia Case as a Litmus Test
Carolla uses the case of Kilmar Abrego Garcia to argue that the same story can be framed entirely differently depending on which facts are emphasized: as an undocumented man with gang associations, domestic violence complaints, and other serious allegations, versus simply as a father from Maryland, a framing he attributes to commentators like Stephen Colbert and Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass. He argues that if he genuinely believed the sympathetic framing, he'd be troubled by the man's deportation too, but that he views the fuller account of allegations as the more accurate one.
Reactions to the Emmys and Rhetoric About the Country's Decline
Dr. Drew brings up Emmy night speeches from the Sunday before, including one in which he says a host declared his love for the country while suggesting it had been lost. Carolla argues that people making sweeping proclamations about the country's collapse often haven't had their own lives materially affected, contrasting it with people who lost their homes in the Malibu fires. Dr. Drew references researcher Rob Henderson's work on how people with dark triad personality traits, Machiavellianism, narcissism, and psychopathy, can be drawn to social justice language as an outlet for their own psychological needs, applying the idea to Kirk's killer.
The two close the segment by comparing their reactions to Charlie Kirk's public message, framing it as pointing out difficult truths about family structure rather than expressing hatred, before Dr. Drew notes it feels like both sides are watching entirely different films of the same events.
Video Transcript
[Music]
Recorded live at Corolla 1 studios with
Adam Corolla and board certified
physician and addiction medicine
specialist Dr. Drew Pinsky. You're
listening to the Adam and Dr. Drew Show.
>> Yeah, get it on. Got to get on the trip
to get it on. Dr. Drew's board.
All right. So, Drew, you and I not
talked about the whole Charlie Kirk
thing.
>> No, I The world has changed since we
last sat at these mics
>> into a microphone at least. Yeah.
>> Um
sad. Uh he was a real nice guy. Um
interviewed him a few times, been on his
show a few times. I know you have.
>> Mhm.
>> As well. Um I you know the the shooting
in the in the tragedy part of life
um is sort of baked in. I'm I'm I get
it. we're at a place where that's the
way it works. Um
>> although the the visual people
witnessing a violent event that that
made it a little different. I mean
there's a reason
>> the kings in the middle ages beheaded
people in public,
>> right?
>> Because humans react differently when
bodies are violated.
>> Right now the reaction
to it is what I've been fascinated by
and you know all kinds of stuff.
somebody pointed out is is uh well so
it's this weird he said she said you
know it's a constant going thing anyone
who's been in a bad marriage sort of
knows that feeling of when you go I
don't you know you keep going why am I
the one to blame I keep saying let's fix
this thing or let's I don't want to do
this you know what I mean like I don't
want
>> fighting I don't want chaos I want
homeless I don't want garbage I don't
want burning you know I
>> you know the other thing you don't want
people with a different opinion to go
away. They're welcome to share their
opinions with you.
>> Well, I think there's a thing. I I I
really think there's I mean, it may be a
convenient thing.
>> Um
>> there are Okay, so everyone goes, "Well,
there's an opinion. There's an opinion.
There's an opinion." But it it gets back
to what I kind of say. It's sort of diet
and exercise. You know, my opinion is uh
family and education. It's like but but
but but but but I I think there's a
underlying thing that
that that's difficult which is
>> somebody's right and somebody's wrong.
>> Somebody was right and somebody is
wrong. Like okay you just take one of
the bigger one of the biggest things you
know sort of George Floyd Black Lives
Matter you know the the plight of the
black community the crime you know what
somebody's right and somebody's wrong
>> in terms of what to do about it.
>> Yeah. and and uh and it's always been
the lack of fathers and the lack of
focus on education and the lack of focus
on family. And it's pretty easy to chart
out. There were, you know, it was much
better statistically 50 years ago when
there were dads at home, but now the
dads are gone.
>> And let's let's give it a little bit of
a nudge here. No fault of the black
community, the welfare programs excluded
fathers. If you were a recipient, you
couldn't have the dad around.
>> That's it. It's it's it's bad. That's
bad. But also, it is their fault because
they follow black leaders who have don't
have their best welfare in mind. And so,
they didn't
>> whites and white people go, "Fuck that
guy. I'm not following that guy." There
is no Al Sharpton or whatever. You know,
you people go, "What about Trump?" They
like Trump because they want cheap gas
and they want a firm border, but he's
not like a spiritual
>> leader for us, you know. Um the the the
problem is is like
>> Sunonny Hen thinks she speaks for the
she has nothing to do with whatever your
problems are. or if you're black right
now, stop looking for her or Whoopi to
speak for you or to represent or Al
Sharpton or Mayor Bass, you know, or
whomever is in charge of whatever city
you're in. They're not doing anything
for you. Get
>> Well, that but that's interesting though
because I I think a a other communities
would look at somebody who's a lawyer
who's got a lot of money, a movie star
who's been on TV for 100 years, and they
they would go, "Oh, that doesn't that's
a different I don't care what color they
are. They're different than me. They
don't have my life. So why would I
listen to them?
>> Yes. Yes. That this is my point. You Don
King has nothing to do with you if
you're a poor black person, right?
>> And you have nothing to do with Don King
and he's not going to help. He's going
to tell you he's going to help.
>> So you're you're pointing at something.
Do you think that class issues are going
to come forward now?
>> Um
there's a thing. It's just work and it's
it's look it it's diet and exercise.
It's focus. It's show up early. It's be
polite. It's all the stuff we got to
argue and argue and argue about what's a
white thing or black thing or whatever.
You can call it whatever thing you want.
Be prompt. Be polite. Do your job. Be
focused. Be sober. Don't steal. Don't
[ __ ] with cops. And go home. You know,
wait till after, you know, college to
have kids, get married, then have kids,
graduate high school. It's a but it's
diet and exercise, diet and exercise,
diet and exercise. All right.
>> Delayed gratification.
>> Delayed gratification. It's all that if
we're for any group at any time.
>> So now then you get into this
discussion. Well, I mean
>> do see I think there's a problem. I
think the left
I think their policies are bad and and
you know free bus rides and
government-owned supermarkets and and
whatever. Nothing ever comes out the
other end. You guys have been in charge
of schools for 50 years. Nothing's
coming out. It's just more money, no
results.
>> Okay. You You can't defend that. You You
can't defend most all of your position.
So, why would you want to really sit
down and and talk it out,
>> right?
>> I I don't I just don't I don't see it.
>> So,
>> I don't think that's I don't think
that's your
>> I don't think that's their path. And I
don't think that's what they want. I
mean, I used to
>> Let's state it. So, so you're saying all
these policies have failed and therefore
they don't want to sit down and talk
about them because those failures would
be highlighted, right?
>> Yeah. When uh when I got that was about
a year into my divorce and I just said
to my ex-wife, I go, "Listen, all
everything you said, you're not doing
any of it. Why don't we just go sit in
front of a counselor and just hash this
out cuz this isn't working out. It this
isn't doesn't resemble what you said
>> it was going to be." So, we have a
mutual counselor. You've seen her. I've
seen her. Let's just go sit down with
her and and see if we can agree on
something. And she quit the counselor
and never went into the thing. Now, why?
Cuz she was right? Cuz she dutifully
followed up on all and been true to her
word? No. She knew what she she didn't
want to go in there.
>> Yeah.
>> Because why? Because it wouldn't have
been a good environment for her,
>> right?
>> But if she'd acted a different way, then
she would have been.
>> You see what I'm saying?
>> Yes. Yes. So, she doesn't they don't
want to be in that environment. And
that's, you know, it's I' I've been
drilling down on a lot, but it's like
Karen Bass and that whole group. They're
they they all speak truth truth to
power, but they never go on anyone's
show who disagrees with them, do they?
>> So, look what I say about Fouchy all
those years ago. Oh, all these Fox these
Fox viewers not getting vaccinated.
Okay, Fouchy go on Tucker Carlson's show
and tell all his dumb viewers to get
vaccinated.
>> I had a dream about him last night,
weirdly.
>> Why
would Fouchy
Fox has a much greater audience, larger
audience than CNBC and CNN and all that?
Okay.
>> I'm not sure everyone knows that.
>> Well, they do. They do. He Well,
>> not to the amount that they do.
>> I'll tell you who knows it. Fouchy.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay. And his handlers, they know it.
and he wants people to get vaccinated
and he is claiming it's the Fox
propagandist who aren't getting
vaccinated.
>> Well, that's great because you have an
open invitation to go on to Tucker
Carlson's show for an hour and tell
everyone why they should get vaccinated.
Why didn't he ever do that? There's an
open door policy for those people.
Whether it's Camala going on Joe Rogan
or whatever it is, come on down. Yeah,
>> will sit down for an hour. Bill Maher,
they won't do it. So, here's the thing.
I'm starting to think they don't.
>> I Their arguments are bad. They're
basically diet and exercise. And you
have a third. You have something else
you want to try out. You You want You
want dietetic fudge and it's not
working. And I want family and
education. You want some kind of uh
community ambassadors or something. and
it takes a village and everyone's going
to it doesn't work. None of your [ __ ]
works. None of it. Just like the border,
it doesn't work. Defunding the police,
all of what it is doesn't work. You
can't defend it. And you don't want to
get in those forums or those
environments. And I'm starting to think
that's what it is. It's just they start
screaming. They start burning [ __ ] down.
I mean, George Floyd had we had to burn
everything down for six months after
George Floyd. We're not burning anything
down with Charlie Kirk's death. Where's
the riots? Where's the burning? Why
aren't why is there stuff being burnt
down?
>> Prayer vigils.
>> Yes. Okay. So, there is a difference.
But I now realize that they don't want
this discussion. They don't go on Bill
Mars and just go tell them what your
policy is.
>> They'd rather just call somebody a Nazi
and run away.
>> Yes. That's that's basically what we're
dealing with. and then why and then say
to themselves, well, why would I want to
talk to a Nazi?
>> Who cares what they say or who cares how
they reason,
>> right?
>> So, but this is the weird cognitive
dissonance everyone's in. They're
convincing themselves of things that are
just dehumanizing and imply violence.
You are threatening my existence with
your opinion. Well, then that's a small
step away from therefore I have to
eliminate you cuz you're going to try to
eliminate me. You're threatening my
existence.
>> All right. I'm a little bit of a broken
record with this, but I've been on it
for a long time and now maybe the
chickens will come home to roost. You
know, Jasmine Crockett will go, I never
said for anyone to put their hands on
anybody else, right?
>> You just keep calling someone Hitler and
the sniper will will do the math,
>> right?
>> It's it's a simple it's a simple math.
The number one time machine scenario is
you go back and kill Hitler.
>> But when the reality is, and this is the
crazy part, ju think about how those
same people reacted after Charlie's
death, right?
>> You are someone who would have gotten
swept into an alternative universe in
1939.
You would have been part of the whole
thing. You would have been a prison
guard essentially. You would have been a
Hitler youth. you would have been the
person swept into the hysteria that made
no sense,
>> right?
>> And and by the way, there there's a
significant piece if you read your
history about the consolidation of power
by Nazis is there was serious violence
to do that. There there was like massive
killings.
>> Uh Guring carried out huge purges. Same
thing with Mussolini. I This is not you
know that's what that's what these
people were doing back then,
>> right? But uh okay, so there's this
thing where it's like, you know, good
people on both sides or inject bleach or
January 6 violent, you know, armed
bloody insurrections. That's it. It none
of it happened. It the whatever it is
they're talk, you know, this whole this
whole
this whole Hitlerian and all this
fascist dictator. I don't know what
they're talking about. I really don't I
I don't know what they're talking about.
I don't know that they know what they're
talking about.
>> They don't. I tried I I can't even
remember what this person said. I was
I'm really I'm trying so hard.
>> Let me say something real quick.
If what they said was true that this guy
has guys in unmarked vans out of
uniforms sweeping into neighborhoods and
disappearing citizens,
that is what a fascist does.
>> Except for that's not happening,
>> right?
And just like inject bleach or good
people on both sides or armed
insurrection
or dead, you know, body count, capital
police, none of that happened. None.
None of that hap. Hands up, don't shoot,
you gentle giant. None of this happened.
That's the whole thing. And by the way,
it never does. You just keep Remember 10
minutes ago, we weren't going to be able
to afford guacamole.
>> Remember that one? No guacamole for you.
Has anyone having avocado related
issues? Has anybody had an avocado
related issue?
>> They get up there, they go, I got some
guacamole and I got my Takati beer. And
if you like guacamole and you like
takati, well, tough luck cuz you won't
be able to Whatever comes out the other
end.
>> Yeah.
>> It never comes out the other end.
>> The Maryland dad.
>> The Maryland dad. Yes. A good man. He
liked guacamole and takati beer, but
nothing. It just goes everything just
sloughs off. It just goes away. Yeah.
You know what I mean?
>> Yeah. It's weird. It doesn't come back
around to be judged.
>> No, it's just All right. So, sorry. You
were trying to wrap your mind.
>> I'm really trying to I'm really doing
everything I can to try to understand
what people are experiencing and what
both sides is and how they construct
this idea about Charlie Kirk that was to
my everything I've seen very far from
who he was. And and I'm really trying to
understand what it triggers and how it
makes people feel. I'm really working
hard at it. Well, it's that the truth is
triggering. Like, okay, look, when I
die, there's going to be tons of slews
of stuff me saying, "I'm not down with
Black Lives Matter. It's about dads.
It's it's not about Le [ __ ] Al
Sharpton." And then they're going to go,
"Adam Cor racist."
>> Yeah.
>> Right. That's how it works. Except for
what am I saying?
>> Yeah.
>> What is Charlie Kirk saying? Saying
>> being raised in a home where 75% of kids
don't have a dad in that home is going
to [ __ ] ruin that home. So, we got to
fix it. You call it racist. I I don't
know what I would call it. It's
You get a termite inspection in your
house. The guy comes back. You come back
with bad news. You got to tent this
place. It's got Well, what do you do?
Threaten him and kick him out of your
house? You know, it's just bad news. We
got to fix it,
>> right?
>> Well, we're going to put a tent. I don't
want to leave. We have to stay in a
hotel for 4 days. I don't want to do
that. Yeah, I know. I wish I wish it
came back with no termites. Yeah,
>> but we got we got issues. But don't be
angry at the guy. So, we got to fix it.
>> Yeah.
>> So, he you know that the Charlie Kirks
and the Dennis Prager and stuff, they
just tell you how to fix it. That's all.
And you think they're
>> by the way,
>> but they're the racist, but but Whoopy
Goldberg isn't who just defends the
system that doesn't work and gets people
shot every day
>> and live in poverty for perpetuity.
She's the good one.
>> He's the guy. She's the one saying no
termites. You're the one living in a
termite riddled house. Why is she the
good one?
>> Yeah.
>> Jesus Christ. Too much chick think,
Drew. Too much feeling. Everyone's like,
it's it's like the termite guy is not
mean. He's not evil. He's not anything.
Just like the doctor tells you you have
cancer. He's not mean. He's not evil.
He's telling you what what the diagnosis
is.
>> Yeah.
>> And you don't want to hear it.
>> No.
>> But that's his job. And now he can fix
it. And you shouting him down and
throwing him out of the hospital doesn't
mean you don't have cancer.
>> Yeah.
>> So, here we go everybody. Too much chick
think,
>> too much emotion. It's all emotion now,
Drew.
>> Oh, yeah.
>> It's all about feelings. It's all about
how you feel.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay. It's not good.
>> That's prone to hysteria.
>> Yeah.
>> That's what sets it up.
>> It's not good for society. So, uh, also
anybody can have I I happen to agree
with Charlie Kirk on whatever whatever
opinions he I've heard of his. I do
agree with him.
>> Um,
but it's okay to disagree with him, but
you gota
you got to buck up. Like if you if you
have an opinion,
you know, if you want to go you want to
be Democrat socialist of of New York
City, that's fine. But now you have to
go on to Bill Maher's show and sit down
and and sell it
>> or defend it
>> or defend it or say something. And by
the way, it doesn't
it doesn't give me a lot of confidence
that you have a lot of confidence in
your stances when you change those
stances to go more like a Charlie Kirk
stance when you try to offer it.
>> Yeah.
>> You know what I mean?
>> Yeah. When you want to get votes
essentially.
>> Yeah. You're essentially a
you know what what if I said this? What?
What if I just said, "Uh, look,
I run a uh a burger place. Um, but I I
don't sell to Mexicans. I will not sell
to Mexicans." Oh, we we'll we'll we'll
make it easier. I run a burger place and
my policy is I never sell to Armenians.
And and and it's a good burger and it
does real well, but I never I never and
I'm 55 years old and that's my policy. I
don't like Armenians and I won't sell
them my burgers. And then at some point
some franchisee or franchise gets hold
of me and goes, "I can put a lot of cash
into this. We're going to franchise.
We're going to open up 62 locations in
the Southland, but this whole no selling
to uh Armenians thing is not going to
work." And I go, "Yeah, good. Cuz I
rethought it."
>> Right. Right.
>> Okay.
>> Do I like Armenians now or do I realize
it was a [ __ ] policy?
>> Yeah.
>> That people didn't want.
>> Yeah.
>> And it wouldn't work on a scale. I
couldn't scale it, right?
>> You know what I'm saying?
>> Yes. He still has shitty ideas, but he's
adapting.
>> Well, also, here's the other thing.
>> I I just had 40 years of not selling to
Armenians. I should go on a Bill Maher
show and explain why.
>> Yeah.
>> Instead of just going, "Yeah, well, that
was the old me.
>> Why are you going away from your
policies,
>> right?
>> You know, you you want to get rid of
fracking, Camala Harris? Good. Go on
Bill Maher and tell him why fracking's
so bad and why we don't need it,
>> right? But you don't.
>> No.
>> Or you want to do the transgender
surgery and prisoners, illegal
immigrants and prisoners. Okay. Okay.
There's that's your policy. We You
thought of it when you were 54. Go talk
about it. No. Going away from that. Why?
Cuz it's [ __ ] It's a [ __ ] policy. You
can't defend it. You don't want to go on
those shows and defend it.
>> Ask me about my policy. What's Trump
want to do? Well, he wants the border
shut down. He wants the school. He wants
school choice or whatever. He wants
taxes lowered. Okay. He'll go on any
show at any time and talk about that.
>> Yes.
>> Yes. And I was just thinking,
>> all right, so Fouchy had a [ __ ] policy
and he was lying. So he would never go.
Did any of those people go on any of
those shows? Did Barbara Ferrer, LA
city, you know, health and did she go on
any podcast? She go did they go anywhere
that's not friendly?
>> No.
>> To them?
>> No.
>> Oh, I'm going to go on Cara Swisser show
again. Yeah. Okay. You want to go on a
real show and have somebody push back a
little? No, you don't. Why not? I'd go
I'll go on anyone's show and talk about
whatever it is I talk about.
>> Yeah.
>> So, what's the problem?
>> Yeah.
>> They're scared, Drew. They don't have
their policy [ __ ] They're all feelings.
>> Well, speaking of feelings, so do we
have to take a break? Want to do that
first?
>> Quick break.
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>> So, speaking of feelings, uh the Emmys
were Monday, Sunday night. And uh well,
I can't even remember.
>> I knew you'd [ __ ] it up.
>> Yeah, Sunday night. Yeah,
>> they were Sunday night and uh lots of
feelings and one of the and again me
trying to trying to adapt the
perspective of what people are doing.
I'm really trying. They a lot of America
has fallen.
>> Ah,
>> America doesn't exist anymore. I love my
country. Colar gets up and goes, I love
I
>> You don't love anything more than when
you lose it. I've never loved my country
more than this. Okay. Okay. Country's
lost.
>> Uh what what what do they what do they
mean?
>> I I can't I I cannot figure what I mean.
I don't I don't Well, first off, it's
it's weird making lots of proclamations
when your physical life has not been
altered one iota. You know what I mean?
Like when like when people go,
>> "Well, we had a fire in Malibu and then
uh I got displaced,
>> so I had to live in an Airbnb in Burbank
for 6 months or your guest house or your
guest room or you know, okay, fine."
>> Yeah.
>> That something was something altered.
You know what I mean? And then your
favorite restaurant, Moon Shadows, burnt
to the ground. Can't go to Moon Shadows
anymore. And uh Dukes, the other
restaurant's been, you know, fire damage
and flooding. Still not open. Can't go
to Dukes, you know. Okay. So then people
go, "Well, there was a fire. How'd it
affect you, Adam?" And I go, "Well, let
me tell you. I had to I had to I had to
flee. I had to stay in a hotel that
night, you know, to find
>> crash on people's sofas, you know."
Yeah. It It was impactful.
But but but what if I just never left
Malibu? Duke was open. Moon shadows
never burnt to the ground. Everything
was just wide open and nothing ever
happened. How much talk could I do? How
much fire talk would be acceptable?
Yeah.
>> You know what I'm saying?
>> I I it didn't impact me. I Steven Coar
still rich, still goes to work, goes to
work with rich people, has a good life.
I Where's the Where's the impact? Now,
to be fair to them, remember my mom
wasn't Hispanic, but she wept for those
people.
>> She worried about them. Didn't do
anything for them,
>> right?
>> But she worried for them feeling.
>> She felt for them. Yeah.
>> Right. And she wanted to make sure you
knew about it because that would then
make her a better person.
>> Which is a really interesting thing.
I've noticed Rob Henderson did a whole
thing on this, how the dark triad people
usurped social justice to dark triad.
Sorry.
>> Machavelianism,
narcissism, psychopathy, varying degrees
of those three. And those people will
adopt social justice. They're very
attracted to these things because they
can use them to express their ego needs.
>> To me, I feel bad. I'm feeling bad. And
they can go, if they're psychopathic,
they get like Kirk's, you know, killer,
right?
>> They go really bad.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Well,
>> and they don't realize they they I
really believe they don't even realize
they're killing a person. They get so
first of all they don't have a moral
sensibility and they often don't have
feelings so it's hard for them to
empathize in other people generally but
they get so swept into bad person does
you know needs to be done away with it
it's they're just prone to that [ __ ]
>> Yeah. Well it's more feelings and it's
more narcissism
and
>> but what about the fall? What are they
talking about? What is the fall of
America? What do they mean? I this isn't
the America they grew up in
>> or they don't like the policies of dark
of a closed border and and ICE raids and
and ICE
>> well they don't like
federal guards to control crime they
just don't like that doesn't feel good
>> they have some Maryland dad version of
all this stuff you know there okay
there's there's Kilmar unfortunately
named Kilmer or whatever his name is
Kilmer work or see a par.
>> Oh, yeah.
>> Whatever. All right. All right. All
right. Let's Let's look at it this way,
Drew.
>> There's the Maryland dad.
>> Okay.
In my world, he is here illegally.
>> Mhm.
>> Part of a gang,
uh,
>> traffic,
>> engaged in human trafficking.
Now, now listen. I'm not 1,000% on
everything, but he's here illegally. Can
we check that box? Yes. Yes, we can.
Okay. He is enga in associated with a
deadly gang. Okay, we can check that
box.
>> He did several domestic violence
complaints.
>> He beat on his old lady. Yeah. Kilmar
Abrego Garcia. Okay.
>> He put his hands on a woman or his wife.
you know, domestic violence
>> complaints
>> and uh and maybe got into some child
pornography or whatever whatever that
was. Okay,
>> that's who he is to me.
>> Okay.
>> To Steven Coar and to Mayor Bass, he's a
father from Maryland.
>> Right.
>> Okay. So if I want that guy snatched up,
put in a van and taken to a facility and
deported because I look at him as a gang
banger here illegally who smuggles human
beings, human trafficking
>> and maybe some child porn or something,
some weird something.
>> All things, all good reasons to get him
out of the country. Yeah,
>> that's me.
>> Steven Cobear thinks of him as a as a
dad from Maryland. So what?
>> Which I, by the way, if I thought of him
as just a dad from Maryland,
>> I'd be pissed.
>> I had a dad from Philadelphia. I
wouldn't want him snatched up and
disappeared.
>> What? Just convenient reasoning just to
support their position. They can't be
wrong. What the hell? How does that
work?
>> Well, what they do, I mean, their their
problem, and this is this is on them,
like, you know, like I said about, you
know, the black community. Go, you can't
blame the black community. I I I can at
a certain point because you're listening
to the same people. Maxine Waters is not
going to help you out because she's
black community. Get over it. No more
than Ted Nent's going to help me out cuz
he's white. You know what I mean? And
I'm over it. I get it. Gavin Newsome
6'2. I'm 6'2. 50some years old. Same age
as me. Height. Both strikingly handsome.
Both heterosexual. Both from California.
And that guy's a piece of sociopathic
[ __ ] who's not going to do anything
except for [ __ ] [ __ ] up my state.
>> Yeah,
>> that's all.
>> Not friends with him.
>> Much rather have Larry Elder,
>> the black guy.
>> That's who I'd like to be governor.
>> You'd like somebody who doesn't look
like you.
>> I want someone who can do a good [ __ ]
job in a state I live in.
>> Yeah.
>> There's no I have much more in common
with Gavin Newsome than I do with Larry
Elder. Y
>> but Larry Eller has better policies, so
I would like him in charge.
>> Simple.
>> Yeah,
>> I'd be a [ __ ] idiot if I just got in
line behind Gavin and I'd be sort of
racist.
>> Interesting.
>> You know, like, [ __ ] you, Larry. Larry
Elder, I'm in with the guy who looks
like me. Interestingly, it's it's sort
of in a weird way the the Democratic
sort of uh default position to vote
party is sort of
has a kind of a it feels racist and it
it's you know what I mean? Like I'm just
voting for that party period. I don't
care what the hell any You know what I
mean? It's just a weird weird to go
through life.
>> All right. So, if I looked at him as a
Maryland dad then I'd be upset. But I
don't look at him as a Maryland dad. I
look at him as a gang banger.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay. So, I'm not upset. You, Stephen
Coar, or whomever, you get all your news
from one or two, well, many sources, but
they all think the same.
>> Yeah.
>> These are the guys who thought Kyle
Writtenhouse was a serial killer. These
are the guys that got everything that.
>> Okay. These are the guys who think
Inject Bleach and Ivor Mechan's horse
pace and stuff at January 600 Biden's
laptop. Yeah. Yeah. 51 guys sign. Okay.
You're getting misinformation
from your side.
>> Yeah,
>> that's all.
>> And you're still believing it.
>> That's why it's on you.
>> And then you end up celebrating when a
31-year-old gets killed,
>> right?
>> It's it's it's but it's it's two, as
Scott Adams says, two movies on one
screen. Like everyone's watching this
one movie, but we feel like watching two
entirely different films.
>> All right. I'll be in Albuquerque, New
Mexico. That'll be September 26th at the
Kimo Theater. And then I'll be in
Flagstaff uh September 27th, Oreium
Theater. I'll be at Kimmel's Club in
Vegas beginning October. Just go to
amc.com for all the live shows. What do
you got, Drew?
>> Drew.com. Ask Dr. Drew. Check us out on
xdrrew.
>> So till next time, Adam Crow with Dr.
You're saying mahala.