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Adam Carolla and Rob Schneider Dissect Dr. Fauci's Evasive Congressional Testimony on BLM Protests and COVID Lockdowns
Adam Carolla and Rob Schneider analyze the July 2020 congressional hearing where Representative Jim Jordan confronted Dr. Anthony Fauci about selective COVID restrictions. While churches, schools, and businesses faced aggressive enforcement, Fauci refused to recommend limiting mass BLM protests. Schneider shares how his mother's funeral defied California's restrictions, and reveals a government scientist confided early evidence of COVID's lab origin, but couldn't say so publicly without career destruction. The conversation exposes the political calculations behind pandemic policy and why many still can't see the institutional corruption.
The Tell: When Experts Suddenly Know Nothing
Adam Carolla identifies a crucial pattern of deception: when someone who previously "knew everything" about COVID suddenly "doesn't know" basic facts, they're lying. Dr. Anthony Fauci spent months making authoritative proclamations about Thanksgiving gatherings, restaurant capacity, dating, and baseball. Yet when Representative Jim Jordan asked him in July 2020 whether mass protests increased virus spread, Fauci became evasive and claimed ignorance.
This selective amnesia is a tell—a sign someone is hiding the truth. Carolla notes that being genuinely agnostic would sound like "I don't know if that medication will work, talk to your doctor" or "I don't know the origin of COVID, it makes sense it's from the lab, but I don't know." But when Fauci was asked about natural immunity, he claimed complete ignorance despite being the nation's top infectious disease expert. When asked about protests, he suddenly had no position despite months of dictating pandemic policy.
Jim Jordan's Sharp Questioning Exposes the Double Standard
The July 2020 congressional hearing captured Dr. Fauci's contradictions in real time. Jordan asked directly: "Do protests increase the spread of the virus?" Fauci gave a vague answer about crowding and masks. When Jordan pressed—noting that half a million protesters gathered on June 6th alone—Fauci became even more evasive.
Jordan asked: "Should we limit the protesting?" Fauci responded: "I'm not sure what you mean. Should we... How do we..."
Carolla interrupts the clip to point out the absurdity: "Hold on. First thing, I'm dumb. I'm dumb. What do you mean? How do we limit? You shut down every church. You shut down every school. You shut down the beaches. You shut everything down. What do you mean how do we limit?"
The government had already demonstrated exactly how to limit gatherings. They took bulldozers and scooped sand into skate parks. They tore down beach volleyball nets. They welded pipes over basketball hoops in parks and covered swing sets with nets. They arrested a man who was paddleboarding alone in the bay. Yet Fauci claimed he didn't understand how the government could possibly limit protests.
Fauci Claims No Authority After Months of Proclamations
When Jordan persisted—"You just said groups were spreading this disease. You shut down schools and churches. You shut down restaurants and beaches. So what do you mean you don't know what he means?"—Fauci responded: "I'm not in a position to determine what the government can do in a forceful way."
Carolla and Schneider immediately call out the lie. That's all Fauci had been doing—making proclamations about what Americans could and couldn't do. He told people what they could do for Thanksgiving, whether they could eat in their yard, how to interact with family. Carolla jokes: "Use a t-shirt cannon to pass the potatoes to your grandmothers at the end of the table. Like, are you nuts?"
All of a sudden, when asked about half a million people gathering during a pandemic, Fauci claimed he was in no position to give advice on COVID safety. The selective ignorance was transparent.
Rob Schneider Defied California's Funeral Restrictions
Rob Schneider shares a personal story that illustrates the human cost of these arbitrary restrictions. His mother passed away in January 2021 during the height of California's COVID restrictions. Authorities said he couldn't have a funeral.
"I was like, screw this," Schneider recalls. "We're having a funeral for my mother and if people want to show up, we'll do it outside, but we're having one. And you try to stop me."
He told the funeral home and cemetery: "We're having one. And if you're not going to provide the chairs, I'll bring my own chairs. If you don't want to provide anything, you don't have to provide anything. It's my mother and I paid for that casket. We're going to have it outside and I'm going to have chairs. I'm going to have flowers. I'm going to have musicians. And we're going to have my mother exit this place in a beautiful way, as dignified as what is required for our loved ones."
The funeral proceeded despite official objections. COVID restrictions denied basic human dignity to families during their most vulnerable moments, while mass political protests continued without interference.
A Government Scientist Knew It Was Man-Made in July 2020
Schneider reveals that some scientists working for the government knew early on that COVID-19 appeared to be man-made. He became friends with Dr. David Clonoff, a professor of medicine and one of the world's leading authorities on diabetes who was working with the NIH.
On July 3, 2020—around the same time as the Fauci hearing—Schneider asked Clonoff what was really going on. Clonoff told him: "Receptor 26 looks a little sticky, but don't quote me."
Schneider explains: "He was saying that this is man-made, that this seems manipulated. And that's his way of saying it. And I'm a layman, what do I know? But I knew enough to know that that means it's man-made."
Clonoff explicitly asked not to be quoted because revealing this truth would have ruined his career. The scientific establishment was actively silencing anyone who suggested COVID-19 originated from a lab. Schneider reflects: "If you told the truth back then, they'll ruin your career. These guys helped design artificial pancreas. This guy's a genius and they're stifling geniuses. This is where that Fauci was at the top of this thing squashing any truth coming out. There's emails of him saying silence people."
The Pattern: Making Proclamations on Everything Except BLM Protests
Jordan continued pressing during the hearing: "You make all kinds of recommendations. You made comments on dating, on baseball, on everything you can imagine. I'm just asking, you just said that protests increase the spread. I'm just asking you, should we try to limit the protest?"
Fauci responded: "I think I would leave that to people who have more of a position to do that."
Jordan then brought up a Supreme Court case that highlighted the constitutional issues: "Last week in the Calvary Chapel case, five liberals on the Supreme Court said it was okay for Nevada to limit church services. Justice Gorsuch said it best. He said there's no world in which the Constitution permits Nevada to favor Caesar's Palace over Calvary Chapel. I'm just asking, is there a world where the Constitution says you can favor one First Amendment liberty—protesting—over another—practicing your faith?"
Fauci responded: "I'm not favoring anybody over anybody. I'm just making a statement that's a broad statement that avoid crowds of any type, no matter where you are, because that leads to the acquisition and transmission. And I don't judge one crowd versus another crowd when you're in a crowd, particularly if you're not wearing a mask."
Jordan immediately caught the contradiction: "So what do you mean you don't judge one crowd versus another crowd? You just did that. You would not judge the BLM protest. You were asked to, but you wouldn't do it."
The Violence No One Could Mention
Jordan pointed out another glaring inconsistency: "There's been no violence that I can see at church. I haven't seen people during a church service go out and harm police officers or burn buildings. But we know that for 63 days, nine weeks, it's been happening in Portland. One night in Chicago, 49 officers were injured. But no limit to protest, but boy, you can't go to church on Sunday."
Fauci refused to budge: "I don't know how many times I can answer that. I'm not going to opine on limiting anything. I'm just going to tell you—"
Jordan interrupted: "You've opined on a lot of things, Dr. Fauci. This is something that directly impacts the spread of the virus and I'm asking your position on the protests."
Fauci maintained his evasion: "I'm not going to opine on limiting anything. I'm telling you what the danger is and you can make your own conclusion about that."
What Fauci Could Have Said If He Had Integrity
Carolla cuts in with what an honest answer would have sounded like: "If this guy wasn't corrupted and had a shred of dignity and wasn't a liar, he would just go, 'Yeah, no Black Lives Matter rallies and no Christian faith rallies and no KKK marching in the street. None of it.' The virus doesn't know if you're racist or you're pro-BLM or you're gay. You have a gay flag. It's all bad."
Schneider agrees: "It was all politics with these guys."
Carolla continues: "He's allowed to say, 'Yeah, I will shut down the Pittsburgh Steelers bar and I'll shut down the gay bar and I'll shut down the church and I'll shut down the liquor store. It's all bad. It doesn't matter if you're a Raiders fan or a Rams fan. Both games are cancelled.' That's what he could have said, but he wouldn't do it. He circled and circled and circled because he was so scared of getting into trouble with his BLM masters."
The political calculation was transparent: Fauci wouldn't criticize BLM protests because it would create political problems for him, but he had no similar concerns about shutting down churches, small businesses, or arresting lone paddleboaders.
Jim Jordan's Skill as a Questioner
Carolla pauses the clip to highlight Jordan's abilities: "You can say whatever you want about Jim Jordan. He's smart. And he's asking questions. And then you go to the other side and you get Maxine Waters and she's like, 'Dr. Fauci, isn't it good? You like pineapple? I do.' Like AOC, half the people on the left are idiots. Like you're having trouble forming sentences. And you can say whatever you want about Cotton or Jim Jordan or whoever these guys are, but they're sharp."
Schneider adds: "As a matter of fact, he's circling in like literally like a very good attorney, circling in to find the truth and to expose someone who's clearly lying and clearly being evasive and inconsistent in his dogma."
The contrast between Jordan's specific, pointed questions and the softball questions from Democratic representatives couldn't be starker. Jordan found the contradictions and exposed the evasion, while many on the other side asked questions that allowed Fauci to give rehearsed answers without facing accountability.
The Attempt to Take Down Trump
Schneider places the COVID restrictions in their broader political context: "The idea was to take down Trump at that time. Anything to take down Trump and that was part of it and he was part of it. He cornered Trump and they all lied to him. It was Birx and it was him and it was Redfield and they basically said like if you don't, four million Americans will die and you'll be known as the plague president if you don't shut down the country."
What was presented as "two weeks to slow the spread" was actually, in Schneider's words, "getting their toe in the door to tyranny and they meant to keep it as long as they could keep it until everybody got the experimental gene therapy."
Fauci, Dr. Deborah Birx, and Dr. Robert Redfield allegedly cornered President Trump with dire warnings designed to force a shutdown. The goal wasn't temporary measures—it was maintaining restrictions as long as possible until everyone received the vaccines.
Why Democrats Can't See the Corruption
Carolla asks the fundamental question: "How do Democrats not see it?"
Schneider offers an answer using a story from philosopher Alan Watts about shamans and conquistadors: "When the conquistadors came to the new world, there was something so outside of their ability, it was unimaginable to them. That literally it was such, it was unimaginable to them. That's why I see the Democratic party. It's unimaginable to see this gigantic corruption in these morons for what they are and that the system just is completely filled with lies."
Schneider continues: "It's the same thing when the shaman had to come out and explain in the language of their own tribesmen to get them to visualize and see something as big as like this boat with these sails and these conquistadors, because they couldn't imagine it."
The comparison is to indigenous people who allegedly couldn't initially perceive Spanish ships because the concept was so far outside their experience. A shaman had to explain in familiar terms what these massive sailing vessels were before people could see them. Similarly, for many Democrats, the level of corruption and lies in institutions like the CDC and NIH is literally unimaginable. They cannot perceive what's in front of them because it contradicts their fundamental worldview. The system they trusted turned out to be completely filled with lies, and that truth is too large and too threatening to process.
The Legacy of a Pivotal Moment
This July 2020 hearing captured a pivotal moment in the pandemic response. Fauci's evasiveness on protests while he had been dogmatic about every other aspect of life revealed that COVID restrictions were never applied consistently or fairly. They were tools of political power, selectively enforced based on ideology rather than science.
The exchange stands as evidence of how public health authority was corrupted during COVID-19, with officials like Fauci making decisions based on political loyalty rather than objective assessment of disease transmission. Jordan's questioning exposed the fundamental hypocrisy: churches were shut down, beaches were closed, lone paddleboarders were arrested, but mass protests involving hundreds of thousands received no similar restrictions or condemnation from health officials.
The conversation between Carolla and Schneider documents not just the hearing itself, but the personal cost of these arbitrary restrictions—from Schneider fighting to give his mother a dignified funeral to scientists being silenced for speaking truth about the virus's origins. It reveals a pattern of political calculations masquerading as public health policy, enforced with government power against ordinary Americans while favored political movements received exemptions.
Video Transcript
I'll tell you another tell and then I'll
play this Fouchy clip because you'll
you'll get it when you hear it.
>> There there's a couple of tells. It's
not being agnostic like going like just
literally going I don't know if that
medication will work. Try it. Talk to
your doctor. Yeah.
>> I don't know where the I don't know the
origin of COVID. It makes sense. It's
from the lab, but I don't know.
>> When they all of a sudden don't know
stuff and they formally knew everything.
So it's like when they said to Fouchy,
"What about natural immunity?" It's
like, "I I don't know. I don't I don't
know anything about." It's like, "Oh,
you don't know anything because you knew
everything about this, but now you don't
know anything. Now you're lying." So
listen to him. What is this from, by the
way?
>> What year? I remember going to the
airport after this and yelling at
everyone in the car.
>> What was going on? But this is this is
tw This is July 2020. And and Fouchi,
this is early.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> And this is Fouchy
being confused.
>> Mr. Chairman, Dr. Fouchy, do protest
increase the spread of the virus?
>> Do protest increase the spread of the
virus? Uh, I think I can make a general
statement.
>> Well, half a million protesters on June
6th alone. I'm just asking that number
of people. Does it increase the spread
of the virus?
>> Crow crowding together, particularly
when you're not wearing a mask,
contributes to the spread of the virus.
Should we limit the protesting?
>> I I'm not sure what you mean. Should How
do we
>> All right. Hold on. Okay. First thing,
I'm dumb. I'm dumb. What do you mean?
>> How do we limit? You shut down every
church. You shut down every school. You
shut down the beaches.
>> You shut everything down. What do you
mean? How do we limit? You took bulldo
bulldozers and you scooped sand into
skate parks and you tore down the beach
volleyball nets. You cut down the beach
volleyball nets and you welded pipes
over basketball hoops at the park
>> and you covered nets around swing set
swing sets
>> and you arrested a guy who was paddle
boarding in the bay. So what do you mean
how do we police this? You do it by what
you've been you've just got done doing
this Fouchy. But anyway, he's confused.
>> He's just a humble caveman lawyer
>> and he said mast and mast. Yeah, I did
say mask. It's funny.
>> I I'm not sure what you mean. Should How
do we say limit the protesting?
>> Should the government limit the
protesting?
>> I I I don't think that's relevant to
It's not relevant. You just said groups
were spreading this disease. You shut
down schools and churches. You shut down
restaurants and beaches. So, what do you
mean you don't know what he means?
Yeah. He wasn't he wasn't briefed on
this to what the saying,
>> right? Yes.
>> Well, you just said if it increases the
spread of the virus, I'm just asking
should we limit it?
>> Well, I'm I'm not in a position to
determine what the government can do in
a forceful way. By the way, make
>> That's all he does. All he's been doing
is making proclamations about what you
can do for Thanksgiving and what you can
do. You know, go have
>> go eat in your yard. You know what I
mean? use a t-shirt cannon to pass the
potatoes to your grandmothers at the end
of the table. Like, are you [ __ ]
nuts? So, all of a sudden,
>> he's in no position to give any advice
on COVID safety.
>> I know. It's maddening. And it's it
makes me so angry because my mother
passed away during COVID in 1991 um in
January. Um and they said it was in
California, of course, and they're like,
"No, well, you can't have
>> Wait a minute. You just said 1991.
>> I'm sorry. 20 2000 sorry 2021.
>> Okay, good for laughing. I thought that
was a joke.
>> No, 2021. And that was, you know, hot co
at the time and they said you can't have
a funeral and I was like, [ __ ] this.
>> We're having a funeral for my mother and
if people want to show up, we'll do it
outside, but we're having one. And you
try to stop me.
>> And that's what I told, you know, the
the funeral home and that's what I told
this the cemetery we're having. We're
having one. And if you're not going to
provide the chairs, I'll bring my own
chairs. If you don't want to provide
anything, you don't have to provide
anything. It's my mother and I paid for
that casket. We're going to have it
outside and I'm going to have chairs.
I'm going to have flowers. I'm going to
have musicians. And I'm going to we're
going to um have my mother exit this
place in a beautiful way a as as
dignified as what is required to for our
loved ones. And the fact that they
didn't want to have that, we I had it
anyway. But it was interesting because
one of the weird flukes that happens in
life is that um I became friends with
this guy and I didn't say his name in
the book because he worked uh he's he's
a brilliant um doctor Dr. David Clonoff
and I think I could say it now. He was
working at NIH. One of the guys was
working uh hired by the government. He's
a professor of medicine and like I said
he didn't put it in the book and he said
July 3rd 2020 I said what's going on
really? Mhm.
>> This is 2020 early around the same time,
maybe a week or two before this, and he
said to me, "Receptor 26 looks a little
sticky, but don't quote me."
>> Because he was saying that this is
man-made, that this is this seems
manipulated. Yeah.
>> And that's his way of saying it. And you
know, and I'm a lame. What do I know?
But I knew enough to know that that
means it's man-made. And he said, "Don't
quote me because they will what happened
was if you told the truth back then,
they'll ruin your career."
>> I know.
>> And that's so that's why, you know,
David Clown, a great man. And at the
time he knew that he couldn't and you
know he's working for the government at
the time and uh trying to figure this
thing out and then but can you imagine
this is a guy one of the most smartest
guys this is a guy who you know the
foremost leading authority on diabetes
in the world. These guys helped design
you know artificial pancreas. This guy's
a genius and and they're stifling
geniuses. This this is where the that
this [ __ ] Fouchy was at the top of
this thing squatchching any truth coming
out. Oh, there's emails of him saying
silence people. All right. Well, listen.
Listen. I'll go back 10 seconds, but it
listen. This is July 2020. Listen to
Fouchy lying.
>> Protesting.
>> The government limit the protesting.
>> I I I I don't think that's relevant to
>> Well, you just said if it increases the
spread of the virus, I'm just asking
should we limit it?
>> Well, I'm I'm not in a position to
determine what the government can do in
a forceful way. Well, you make all kinds
of recommendations. You you made
comments on dating, on baseball, on
everything you can imagine. I'm just
asking, you just said that protests
increase the spread. I'm just asking
you, should we try to limit the protest?
>> No, I think I would leave that to people
who have more of an a position to do
that. I can tell you
>> government stopping people from going to
church, Dr. Fouchy.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Last week in the Calvary Chapel case,
five liberals on the Supreme Court said
it was okay for Nevada to limit church
services.
Governor, I mean, Justice Gorsuch said
it best. He said, "There's no there's no
world in which the Constitution permits
Nevada to favor Caesar's Palace over
Calvary Chapel." I'm just asking, is
there a world where the Constitution
says you can favor one First Amendment
liberty? Protesting.
>> By the way, can you pause for a second?
I've said this a million times. I know
it sounds a little convenient, but you
go, "Look, Rob, you think this way, and
Adam thinks the same way you think, and
then this guy's on that side of the
aisle, and you know, everyone has their
side and he's a Democrat. It's fine,
>> right? But I'm going to say this.
You can say whatever you want about Jim
Jordan. He's [ __ ] smart. Yeah. And
he's asking questions. And then you go
to the other side and you get Maisy
Herona and she's like, "Dr. Fouchy,
isn't it good? You like pineapple? I do.
No f I yield my time." Like AOC,
half the people on the left are [ __ ]
[ __ ] Like you're having trouble
forming sentences. And you can say
whatever you want about Cotton or Jim
Jordan or whoever these guys are, but
they're [ __ ] sharp.
>> Yes. And and you know what? As a matter
of fact, he's circling in like literally
like like a very good attorney,
>> right?
>> Circling in to find the truth and to
expose someone who's clearly uh lying
and and clearly uh you know, being um
evasive uh and and inconsistent in his
uh in his dogma.
>> Well, we'll we'll continue on. Miss
Nevada to favor Caesar's Palace over
Calvary Chapel. I'm just asking, is
there a world where the Constitution
says you can favor one First Amendment
liberty protesting over another
practicing your faith?
>> I'm not favoring anybody over anybody.
I'm just making a statement that's a
broad statement that avoid crowds of any
type, no matter where you are, because
that leads to the acquisition and
transmission. And I don't judge one
crowd versus another crowd. when you're
in a crowd, particularly if you're not
wearing a mask.
>> He wouldn't say limit protest. So, what
do you mean you don't judge one crowd
versus another crowd? You just
>> did that. You would not judge the BLM
protest. You were asked to, but you
wouldn't do it.
>> Yeah.
>> All right. Sorry. Go ahead.
>> Favoring anybody over anybody. I'm just
making a statement that's a broad
statement that avoid crowds of any type
no matter where you are because that
leads to the acquisition and
transmission and I don't judge one crowd
versus another crowd when you're in a
crowd particularly if you're not wearing
a mask that in
>> it's a simple it's a simple question
doctor should we limit the protest
government is obviously li limiting
people going to church and and look
>> I'm not
>> there's been no there's been no violence
that I I can see at church I haven't
seen people during during a church
service to go out and and harm police
officers or burn buildings. But we know
that I mean for 63 days, 9 weeks it's
been happening in Portland,
>> right?
>> Yeah.
>> Well, one night in Chicago, 49 officers
were injured. But no limit to no limit
to protest, but boy, you can't go to
church on Sunday.
>> What was the
>> I don't know how many times I can answer
that. I'm not going to opine on limiting
anything. I'm just going to tell you
>> you've opined on a lot of things, Dr.
Fouch. But I've never seen
>> this is something that directly impacts
the spread of the virus and I'm asking
your your your position on the protest.
>> Yeah, I'm well I'm not going to appine
on limiting anything. I'm telling you
what it is the danger and you can make
your own conclusion about that. You
should stay.
>> By the way, hold on a second. If this
guy wasn't corrupted and had a [ __ ]
shred of dignity and wasn't a liar, he
would just go, "Yeah, no Black Lives
Matter rallies and no Christian faith
rallies and no
KKKs
through through marching in the street.
Know any of it,
>> right?
>> It doesn't The virus doesn't know if
you're racist or you're pro BLM or
you're gay. You have a gay flag. Yeah.
It's all bad.
>> It was a political just say it.
>> It was all politics with these [ __ ]
I Well, the whole point is is
>> he's covered because he's allowed to
say,
>> "Yeah,
>> I will shut down the Pittsburgh Steelers
bar and I'll shut down the gay bar and
I'll shut down the church and I'll shut
down the liquor store." Like, I'll just
>> It's all It's all bad.
>> Yeah.
>> It doesn't matter if you're a Raiders
fan or a Rams fan. Both games are
cancelled. Like, that's that's what he
could have said, but he wouldn't do it.
He circled and circled and circled
because he was so scared of getting into
trouble with his BLM masters. By the
way, what the [ __ ] BLM have to do with
CO anyway? It has everything to do with
CO if you're corrupted like he was.
>> He was but the idea was to take down
Trump at that time. Anything to take
down Trump and that that was part of it
and he was part of it. He he cornered
Trump and they all lied to him. It was
Burks and it was him and it was Redfield
and they basically said like if you
don't four million Americans will die
and you'll be known as the plague
president and blah blah blah if you
don't shut down the country and you know
and shutting down the country for for
two weeks was just you know getting
their toe in the door to tyranny and
they meant to keep it as long as they
could keep it until everybody got the
experimental gene therapy and it's just
a
>> um it was one of those things that
happened but how do Democrats not see it
and the only way I could describe it is
I remember Uh there's a story from Alan
Watts. He was talking about the sh the
shaman because there was something so
outside of their um ability when the
concistadors came to the new world that
literally it was such it was
unimaginable to them. That's why I see
the Democratic party. It's unimaginable
to see this gigantic corruption in these
morons for what they are and that the
system just is completely filled with
lies. It's the same thing when the the
sheaman had to come out and explain in
the language of their own tribesmen to
get them to to to visualize and see
something as big as like this boat with
these sails and these concistadors,
>> you know,
>> because they they couldn't imagine it,
Right.