Candace Owens and Bill Maher Clash on Moon Landings, Climate Change, and Modern American Politics

[Music] I actually think that Trump out of office for a good reason well was a good thing for your show because it allowed you to it's not about my show Candace that's insulting no no no no I don't believe I don't believe in chips I think we've established tonight we've all got our own our we all got our own [Music] things hello who is hiding in my high this is awesome this is actually a really sick man cave how are you my husband has one but it's a lot small it's not a man cave because I'm not a husband it's a man cave it's not it's a nightclub yeah but men need caves even if they are don't have wives no no think they do this is a nightclub you don't hear it oh I see you're with child I've been with child for 3 years I've been pregnant for three years I've had a baby in 2021 this is like my permanent State now I'm basically an elephant you do know that science knows what causes this now I do they know I actually been trying to figure it out for the last three years cuz it feels like it's a medical condition so you're like having Irish twins literally I have a 2-year-old a one-year-old and this one's due in November I've been pregnant for 3 years so so I think it's going to be weird when I'm not pregnant anymore I'm going to be like I don't know what to do with myself what's what and what's that like when you're always pregnant honestly it's got to be rough it's not I I feel like everyone has this like cultural understanding of pregnancy and I think a lot of women play it up cultural no I feel like there's this this alien knowing on you from the inside that yeah but it's like it's not that big of a deal I got to be honest with you it's it's like I for some women obviously you can look at them and you can tell which ones are having what looks like an allergic reaction right um and they have a rough go with it but some people just do pregnancy pretty easily and I'm one of those people that just kind of like it doesn't really change anything so you're just going to keep going no I wanted to do it all back to back because I didn't want to be I don't know when parents do the like we had a kid and we waited 5 years to the next one I'm like who wants to like restart and take out all the bottles and I just was like if I'm getting pregnant I'm just going to have all of my kids back to back right and then one yeah I think it's genius so you do believe in birth control you're not doing it I actually don't believe in birth control no you're just doing it the Catholic way just like whatever Happ my husband's so Catholic like Beyond he's the cathol you could have 12 kids I know it's dangerous of course it is it's completely dangerous and stupid I'm on your side what are you gonna do trick them and take birth control yeah just I don't know Catholics they have a lot of kids this is just yes I didn't choose his life that was a thing when I was a kid really where did you grow up New Jersey okay yeah you definitely saw some 14 kids cath yeah for for sure but they were happy but you don't want you don't want that to be you I do kind of I kind of want a school bus yeah yeah like my colleague Matt wall she's got six kids I feel I'm naturally competitive oh my God yeah I know it's really bad well it's bad I'm very very competitive so I feel like now I might just have six kids just seven just to beat them it's really bad definitely bad for the planet let's not get into that right away I mean kids are bad for the planet well what everything they're pretty eco-friendly actually adults are bad for the planet well they're not eco-friendly in the sense that they're going to have kids and you know that you're just making more people who are using resources you know people who argue about planet and you know Elon Musk don't understand his whole thing about like we should have more people it's like there's room of course there's room it's not about room it's about resources we don't have the resources we have the room we just don't have I read y the other day where the uh what do they call the groundwater we've already like sucked out all the groundwater that we can possibly use they're not there's just not enough rain falling for like all your kids it's all about you Candace thank you it's interesting cuz I've just kind of read this whole book debunking all of that which I feel like in two years you're going to have a totally different perspective on all that because i' I've seen your growth and where you were a few years ago to where you are now and you know Elon Musk I think is probably pretty educated about the planet resources uh do you think no no not necessarily not if you not either are you if you think that we can somehow keep putting people on the planet which has a finite amount of resources oh look there's my zucchini that I gave to I was looking for that look at that thing did you grow that I I did and I gave it to uh Viv when he was here a couple of weeks ago he didn't take it unless he took it and they put another one just like it in there but I don't think that let me see that can hand me that thing I don't want to you actually grow this yes it's actually a really big zucchini I I told him I said you were probably at the Iowa State Fair or and they this this is probably the kind of thing that you I grow vegetables and I I just want to tell you CU maybe he doesn't grow them that's a very respectable zucchini would you like it I actually would I actually love zucchini so may to remind you not to get pregnant now we going to leave it there it's going to wind up staying there again no it won't I won't leave it I actually love zucchini great yeah I it's fantastic yeah this is my favorite I actually did cucumbers this year and I got some pretty big cucumbers but they're wretched to grow they just kind of grow out it's almost a shame to have to cut into that but you do yeah you you kind of but um don't you not believe like in the moon landing so I'm supposed to believe you about climate I I think it's so funny how people take well first off I know what I'm talking about with the climate stuff so I'm just going to go ahead and promote you're not the only one yeah well I mean I think you should probably realize like that there is in the same way that there are narratives I think you're now more awake to The Climate hoax is one that runs trillions of dollars and okay we are not running out of space you could fit the entire world if you stacked it like New York City in Dallas so fit I just said you said but the point is is that the F hurricanes are down the whole idea that every time it rains it's because you know something bad is happening is like it's it's okay what I will agree with you on is this the environmentalists do often lie because they have this idea uh this issue is so important and by the way it is so important that it's okay if we shade the truth to get people on our side and I don't agree with that I'm always matter well not every time what was your climate disaster growing up mine was mine was global warming they don't even say it anymore they don't say global warming anymore they don't no they say climate change they they went from Global but in the world they do no they don't they went from global cooling to global warming they never were in global no one was ever talking it was one that's such a stupid talking point that you keep repeating it's a zombie lie it was one article in one magazine in one day one week in Newsweek or something nobody was talking about global cool in yes we understand that the planet is always changing that's a different story there was there was a whole climate alarm alarmism via the ipca for global cooling no there wern't okay there was but do you believe people landed on the moon well let's just back that up if you don't I think that's I think that really sets a standard for this discuss you are taking something that was a Twitter you can't answer it joke I'm going to answer your question but I'm just trying because I think you should add context because what you're doing now is you're jumping away from an actual meaningful discussion about climate change and the hoax that's surrounding it and making people fearful to have children and you're allot going didn't you once tweet when I said literally I said in the tweet it let's have some fun today what is one conspiracy theory that almost got you and that you think like could possibly be be real and I said the one that always gets me every time is the moon landing how come we haven't gone back so you're taking this one tweet where people then shared the things that they think that were not really serious or political on this long thread to now apply to a conversation about climate change but just to be clear people did land on the moon I don't know okay there we go I don't know I do know I just want to know why we didn't go back we did go back what did we go back what year to the Moon we people on the moon okay I'm asking a serious question when when did we go when did we go back to people walking on the moon 69 okay July 20th 1969 we went back like 10 more times who went back who walked in the America you know no but like what were the astronauts names educate me why are you who the [ __ ] remembers what the astronauts names were that's a big it's a pretty big deal to walk on the moon the first guy and then after that yes who else walked on it I don't remember the name it like another dozen okay yeah are you we okay other dozen humans walked on the Moon yes Americans all Americans okay we don't remember we kept going back uh Apollo 13 was the one they made the movie about that was the one they aborted but that was after we had landed Apollo 11 I think was I'm not talking about space missions I'm talking about actual people walking yes landing on the moon and walking on it first of all it's it it is an impressive scientific feat it's not out of the realm of like how could that possibly happen it's only 250,000 miles away they had figured out enough to be able to do it even with the shitty computers that they had in 1969 um yes it's risky and we did lose people doing it um but we did do it I mean plainly I mean the idea that you could think that this was some sort of hoax I'm sorry but it colors everything else I I'm just saying that like I'm just not like you're I feel like you're just trying to find this one I've never talk about this on my show you're literally talking about one funny tweet it's relevant it's really that you won't say absolutely people walked on the moon it's relevant I I feel that you are finding an angle here to try to talk about something that I've never talked about on my podcast I've never talked people on on a debate station on a college you you probably had a producer dig up what you thought were the most absurd tweets like there's no way you it's out you're saying it's out there even articles about this it's so obscure that it's like it's like literally I said like let's have some fun what are some of the things that what are some conspiracy theories that you read that you have question about and I was like the moon landing first of all I promise you there is no production on this show it's it's a pretty Niche thing of all the things I talk about and I known for there was even an article written about this about me I wasn't planning to talk about it it's like how did you get here saw it on Twitter I got here somehow I knew it but how because it's out there because read not even in my Wikipedia like it's like it's so obscure it's so Niche that I'm just like Curious I don't I don't think that's the case because I think I read it in the Vanity Fair article about you no no nope I mean it's not it's not even relevant for like it's I've never ever had a single person sit down and ask me this question I've done America a service because we we we we find the Baseline of your thinking I'm sorry but that is relevant that you don't think men landed on the mo I just said I would like I first off what I specifically said was I want to know why and I think even Elon Musk said this in his time piece ask him about it ask him about the did address it in his uh time I think he probably believes it but I'm just not interested in this topic like at all so it's just like you just came in so fiery about something that I am not known for that was like an obscure tweet of like it started with let's have some fun and it was in a joking Manner and suddenly you're like how could you not believe the moon landing and I'm like the energy little my apologies and I I I don't want this to be adversar it was just suris got on to Global Warming I would so I'm okay to have this topic but I I connected it to that because it was like okay but I'm in the public sphere talking about that I've had experts on my show talking about like Gregory weinstone talked about his book about the climate change hoax I care deeply about that because of the implications and how the climate change hoax and the trillions of dollars that are basically disappearing for things like Paris of court agreement like I'm on very much on record in and sincere not to be a dead horse but if you think the moonlanding is a hoax it colors my view of what you think of the global warming being a hoax so let's get but I never said the moon landing is a hoax I said name one conspiracy theory almost got you I said I don't know anything about I don't know anything about I can't even debate you you're sitting here telling me that 12 men have gone on the moon since I don't know anything about it and so I keep a very I think that there's one thing that people say about me is I don't come into conversations about things that I don't know so I'm not going to sit here and pretend to be an expert on moon landing such a brilliant person but on things that I actually know I'm willing to because I don't care I literally don't it it's to me utterly inconsequential for the work but I do yeah I would that's why I said fun thread tell me this like we were like tell me what's one conspiracy theory that you believe that we can look into I mean we really should pull the Tweet because it's it's weird that you're at that you're making this so severe as if I was like on a talk show debating the moonlanding and so what I'm saying is I've never cared about this topic because it's an undebatable topic debatable you're making it debatable anyone watching this will think that I made this topic debatable I think you've made this very debatable all I told you was I sent a funny tweet and it's a pretty obscure tweet that's never how's life in ever discussed before how's life in Nashville Nashville's real right Nashville is a real place and I love Nashville it's really great yeah it's it's interesting I was just in Austin Texas and I feel like Austin and Nashville are the two places where the liberal diaspora shall we call it liberals who want to get away and I certainly understand why I live here in California it is a ridiculous state that drives you insane I totally get it I'm too dug in here to make a change and where else would I find Club random but I get it I feel like those are the two places they go they go to Austin and they go to Nashville yeah because you're not really out in the sticks I mean Austin's a pretty liberal town and any city is blue right okay so you're out of like the fire but you didn't go to The Frying Pan Am I is that about right um yeah that's pretty much it I mean for us we were also between Texas and Tennessee for sure we were probably between Chattanooga and Dallas and we decided on Nashville because I think a lot more opportunities were happening like there was a lot of La people coming starting Studios daily wire moved their Studio from LA to Nashville so it felt like the right place and I think at that time I was having kids so you you sort of naturally crave the suburbs when you have kids obviously like the whole and also New York by the way if I was a parent well first of all it would be there' be Unholy hell if I was a parent because probably we're going to be on the same page on this [ __ ] some of the stuff that goes on in the schools is just so cray cray and I would not be able to keep my mouth shut about it so I'm sure a state like Tennessee does not have laws that some of the blue states do where like you you're the the the parents are not allowed to be notified by the school they're actually prohibited if the kid changes their gender like they say that would be outing the student to a parent outing is a word we even use in connection with a parent shouldn't everything be out to the parent yeah I'm sure I'm singing from your Himel now am I allowed to have an opinion on this or I'm just I'm just trying to make up for my with the moon I just don't care I I'm just being honest I don't care about that at all I literally don't think about it and I wouldn't have ever picked a debate with somebody about something that I just don't care about but this I care deeply about um and this is what I do a lot of you know work in the space of talking to parents and understanding how we've become so removed from our our own children systematically and you're right that places like LA and New York have become these major hubs where the state has gone too far and I do a lot of work on other stuff too that you would think is weird and you know vaccine stuff for parents and kind of giving them a guide oh no I'm with you there okay I wasn't sure about that um and you know I do I produce an entire separate series talking about vaccines and sort of the increase and when I was a kid I I don't think vaccines are a hoax or anything right I just not a hoax but how you know do do your kids need from 1982 don't 6 to 75 you know I mean my view just to be clear vaccines are a tool in the medical kit just like antibiotics and just like anti biotics I wouldn't want to be told everyone's taking them so you have to too one if I decide I need one for a certain pathogen and I'm at a place in my life where I think that playing the odds which is what medicine always is that would be the smart thing okay but forcing it and on and in children who never needed it for this who the least likely and they're so sick the kids have never been sicker and that's start my series by asking these kids have never been more vaxed were the most vaxed country in the entire world world you know we have these uh High infant mortality rates one weighed against third world countries and you're being told that this is because we're super healthy you got kids 75 vaccines when I was a kid it was it was 12 you know and there's been an explosion people don't even know anything about the diseases it's just these constant fear campaigns and then on top of that in States like La you can't opt out you know so these are things that parents have to think about now where you're literally racing your kids could you go to prison for saying that I don't want my child referred to as a different gender behind my back yes depending on where you live they're trying to criminalize you being a parent um and then you add that to the you know medical complex and maybe you say you know I I'm not afraid if my kid gets chickenpox I got chickenpox we chickenpox parties you can't do that in La you can't do that in LA and if you're a doctor and you say oh this parent didn't want their child to get the chickenpox vaccine you get your license taken away in a place like La I don't think parents realize why that's so scary not necess we can argue all day you can call me antia I can call you provax but as parents we should be able to make decisions for our children I don't fear the chicken pox that's all I was I mean yes I would I would really not go over well in today's world if I was a parent I I would just be in fights and it would just be ugly and then my kids I my hat is off to anyone who is a parent today because I honestly feel it has never been harder to be a parent because you're not allowed to boss them around yeah what's the [ __ ] point of having kids if you can't boss them around and although also how could you possibly control a feral little monster like that if you couldn't boss them around it's insane that they treat them like they're just short people like yeah adults and that's weird too I was I was actually talking with somebody that was here before you came in here about sort of the LA spell because it is there's something weird about parents in this particular bubble this particular part of La where they think that the children are adults I don't understand you know we don't want to tell our child no and parent that said that we don't believe in telling our child no and I just said okay well he rapes someone's 13 and he says my mom never taught me the word no there were no boundaries I mean whose fall is that going to be I mean it's this country reminds me of like a medieval European country where a 5-year-old ascends to the throne and inherits it and so all the corders have to pretend that whatever brain fart whatever brain fart comes out of the mouth of this 5-year-old toddler yes is something that we have to take seriously and treat as valid and and debatable that's what this country is that is very accurate that was a very incredible analogy pockets of the country though I would say Pockets particularly here right you don't see that stuff in Tennessee like it yes ma'am no sir you know what I mean and they don't play around with that stuff and that's what I love about the and that's that's why I completely understand white people move to places like Austin and Nashville and this this is what they attacked me for so vigorously when I did my editorial about trans which you know I feel like again a great demarcation between what liberal is old school liberal and woke liberal believes trans is a course a real thing and they should be protected and respected woke is like um well before they can like tie their shoe we tell them they very likely might be in the wrong body I ran your segment on my podcast actually cuz it was brilliant yeah on on real time you did the segment talking about okay if this is a real thing it Regional geography why is it Regional brilliant Point that's what I was saying why is it so Regional yeah you what is it the water here in California because I've been to dinner parties more than one where there's 12 people and they're all talking about their trans kids they're all scary it's almost like that's the norm yeah and that can't really be the norm I mean I get I get it that things happen in nature you know mix up at the factory whatever you want to call it it nature you know I know the religious people like to call it you know what do they say intelligent design it's not that intelligent in a lot of ways I mean in a lot of ways it is but there's a lot of stuff about the human body and the way we're built and the way we you know like flam I feel like very often unnecessary and only makes things worse I wish I could talk to my own body and say we don't need this FL you know I I know you're trying to help but but you know you're not really helping because I don't think it's stop I think it's giving a place for the bacteria to Nestle in right well actually it's funny because I'm not going I called up a bunch of FL reading this I don't know what causes it I can't figure out what makes but there must be there must be something objectively good about and now I'm interested and this is the kind of random things that I'll research on the internet like what actually is purpose of FL but there was a real housewife and I cannot I will not name her because I got in trouble on YouTube for talking about it even though she talked about it first and came out and said she's got like two she's got four kids dad's a doctor brilliant doctor but Beverly Hills so you know here we go there you go so how brilliant can you really be um and especially now that doctors don't know the difference between the Sexes and they've got like two non-binary children one gay child and one trans child say that slower two nonb binary children nonbinary meaning they are not bound to any sex I think how old are they uh these all of these children are like 12 maybe 15 and under so non-binary would that be the same as bisexual uh I'm not sure and I don't want to get us into trouble because these definitions change and they're fluid and the second you don't get the update to children are fluid too yes but also a trans child and like a a gay child and I'm like this is a statistical impossibility um obviously and they kind of came out and said obviously this is going possibility something's going on in your house and I'm going to guess it's a lack of parenting right because these are just I I didn't graduate high school with a single fing non-binary child so this is this is this is made up right and you're telling me all of your children have this thing 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sides mad we say some things they like and some things they don't yeah just a lot of people but when we're in agreement about something I think people feel the same about me in this way like when they do agree it's like that person really I mean rubs my [ __ ] on that the way they do that they really I just love you so much when you go off on something that deserves to be gone off on and I feel like people feel that do like when I go off on something and it deserves that ass kicking and you do it I mean you're funny you have a I saw you make doing the Eminem thing you like you were making fun of all his moves I just don't know what happened I know but it was really funny I mean the way you just like and I like Eminem but you made him look ridick he rck he's now just rid I mean you met the ramas Swami it's like you're pick on like B ramaswami that's that's what I was mimicking him because he was talking about he was talking about Trump nuking the world yeah that was yeah I was going back and just showing how you know the fall of M&M but the segment that I was doing was just about like he keeps doing this we get it you don't like Republicans you don't like conservatives but did was so harmless I mean he was in front of like six kids rapping some Eminem lyrics and Eminem lawyered up against him but I did advise VI when he was here to stop rapping yes it's that is not real no really right it's just not a good look it's you know V he reminds me so much of that character from Mean Girls he's like a true academic High achieving nice gu which girl have you ever seen Mean Girls of course mathletes mathet okay right and then there's the Indian guy who raps on stage and he's like sucker sucker sucker MC's ain't got nothing on me but he's cooler than he's cool no the guy is cool but he's like he's a high achieving athlete who also likes hip-hop he's in different things and I loved having with make on my show I thought he was super inspiration I like that he kind of has been staying above the Fright because I'm super fatigued with politics right now well he's a lot more on your page with some of these issues like global warming than I am so you know I find him brilant as I said to him I I find you very disarming and also alarming yeah yeah but that's me and I think some of it is performative I you know he will not admit that he wants to be the vice president but of course Trump is going to be the nominee so there's there only running for vice president at this point would you not agree no no no no no obviously Ronda sand is not running to be Trump's vice president right absolutely not Nikki Haley is not why wouldn't he take that of course oh no he won't no he won't they hate each other they hate each other n Haley is not running to be vice president do you do you think that Lyndon Johnson and John F Kennedy didn't hate each other you think hating someone is is disqualifies you to serving with them as vice president practically a qualification I could see Tim Scott doing the VP thing but I think they're all after something else cuz you can also run to get your name out because you have you want to run again in four years you're just kind of you know testing the water of a V's young enough that the VP office doesn't seem for me to be his goal I could be wrong but if I could go back just to the VP thing only because like I've watched a little more history because you're so young so young wasn't even alive for the moon landing so the what what happened I doubt it child um but like like usually I'm telling you the vice president and the president hate each other because they just ran against each other yeah and the guy picks as the vice president very often the person who uh is kind of the runner up who wants to bring in that Coalition and also the guy who like sort of fits the thing that he doesn't do George Bush picked Dan Quail cuz like I'm old and experienced and and this little boy you know yeah they used to have him much live at like a child yeah it was funny I I get what you're saying you know so I don't think I think they all you don't think Nikki Haley no I think I think she's going for like is she's she's running to secure wealth cuz she started her career to do to do what well she was like millions of dollars in the debt right and now she's got money pouring into her coffers I think they have they all have incentives and I'm not saying any of them are pure but I think they're different incentives I think Nikki is motivated by money and I think that she like the said on stage is actually looking for a deal like ran or something this is how much they all wanted though I noticed they many of them purposely I'm sure they know better mispronounced viv's name they did just to get the idea uh this person Foreigner funny name uh veic is ITA what is your but when Nikki Haley did it fellow Indian americ I was like oh Nikki not you to you don't know how to say name I know I don't think so yeah I don't know how did you think she did um as good as she could as good as you could do in that format um I thought she look it's GNA be Trump and whoever he wants um like Pence obviously isn't Wun to be vice president right right see they all have different reasons they're running no he might be deluded enough to think that Jesus Will um decide it should be him and that's really what he things makes the difference in the world is what Jesus decides I mean I remember having a discussion with the the old dorm room [ __ ] session with my sophomore roommate and we talked about I forget what the issue is for like two hours and finally he just said well because I Think Jesus Christ will come down and blah blah blah and I was like why did I waste two hours if that's what you really think about how this issue is going to get resolved Jesus Christ is going to come down and do this in ABC and I think that's Mike Pence you think Mike Mike's Pence is running because he think Christ ordained him I think he's running because he thinks it's in God's hands and he's a very good friend of God and like it doesn't look good right now but Jesus can perform Miracles because we know that because of bread and Loaves and um you know stuff walking out take you're a devout atheist devout okay gotcha I think probably Pence is running because he doesn't know what to do next you know he like ran a state became the vice president what what's the next natural progression and to think that you can be president and also because he kind of tried he wants to separate his brand from Trump which I think he feels like got murking and there's some genuine Bad Blood there so I don't I actually there's definitely I don't think any of them are running to be Trump's uh VP because they all trashed him on the stage but V is the only one that Trump would consider trashed him Trump they kissed his ass Trump yeah the only one who trashed him was Chris Christie Chris Christie trashed him desandis said nothing to be fair Des sis like didn't say anything the whole night they they all raised their hand when they said If s did the well okay but they raised their hand except for Christie when they said would you support him as the nominee I mean that's pretty amazing for a guy who's you know probably going to be convicted for what he should be convicted for and I'm sure we agree on this candidate definitely sure we agree on this about you know trying to overthrow the government of the United States um you're just not like you're not a weak enough person to really like I don't buy this this I think you I think you dance this way because you think you have to play Kate okay first of all no chance we almost lost America on January 6 I just don't buy that you that you're that soft yeah I do um and just to educate you a little on this I was saying this for five years when everyone was laughing at me for saying this that Trump would never concede the election and he would never go away I was all alone on a raft but I mean you saw BLM riots right yes the summer leading up to this right where like you I lived in DC at this time where you couldn't go outside cars were flipped things were burned people were boarding up their windows but you thought the end of democracy you can say this meaningful face happened when people above the age of like 65 stormed the cap like you thought that was the worst thing you've ever seen in in American politics well I mean what was the worst scene that was a small part of a bigger picture the worst the worst thing was that finally we had a president after all this history that we've had nobody ever did this not Al Gore and not Nixon who probably didn't actually lose their elections they allowed this peaceful transfer of power to happen we finally had a guy who decided of course because he's insane decided that no matter what happens I won this election there's only two things that could possibly happen I win the election or if I don't win the election there must have been some cheating it was looked at by his own people around him including the Homeland Security Department including the Director of National Intelligence including every Court federal and state including the his own lawyers his daughter Bill bar everybody told him you lost this election they looked at this over and over again even the Republican vote counters like the one he called who said find me 11,000 more votes even those people told him so plainly he did not accept losing the election and then he tried to put in aund this is why he's on trial it's not you believe that that that day as the media we're talking about media hoaxes I just I gave you my answer it's not just that day although that was part of a scheme I mean it's not like coincidence that they showed up on the very day that they were certifying the vote at the very place they were doing it to stop that from happening that's not a coin any questions about why the FBI hasn't been able to find since we're we started with media hoaxes you think it's strange that they haven't been able to find who dropped off the pipe bombs the night before cuz I think that's the strangest piece what pipe bombs oh this is some red hering [ __ ] no no not Redang this is in the moves you can watch the CNN MSNBC you know remember the night before on January 5th there were pipe bombs that were uh uh set outside of the RNC and the DNC headquarters right and this was a part of the whole thing bombs were about to go off but they were they were able to you know get the bombs out this is why you know AOC said she have fly for all this stuff so I'm asking you do you have more pressing questions about why they have not been able to find the person that dropped off those I will have to look into that the way you'll have to look into the moon thing okay because I think that's a very big piece for a lot of people of just understanding like what actually happened on that day as I said before I don't trust the media on anything because they never give you the full story so I will allow that there could be this element to the story that is part of the story I don't think it will probably change my mind that Donald Trump would not concede an election kept saying it was a a fake and and that he had all these reasons to un to believe that the that people had voted like 10,000 he said to the renberger on the call I rsen actually corrected him and said you know you you claim that there was 10,000 dead people who voted in Georgia we looked and we looked and we looked it was two that sums it all up there was actually two now he's not on trial for lying you're apparently about to allowed to lie to the American people about elections even though nobody ever really did that before but okay he's on trial for breaking specific laws forgery I mean before Stacy Abrams election election and said that it was so let's just be let's be yes that but okay you're right I can seeed okay Hillary Clinton took a very long time actually I don't think she still Hillary Clinton was there before the night was over in her purple suit conceding the election she didn't she slept in you're wrong no I'm not wrong wrong he John podesta came to the podium and said well it was before Dawn of the next day okay my point is that saying that there was L your no I didn't lose my point my point is that about Hillary you were Hillary conceded as soon as it was obvious that she lost the more the thing that I'm trying to get you to to say though we know that you hate Trump that has been abundantly obvious actually think that Trump out of office for a good reason well was a good thing for your show because it allowed you to it's not about my show Candace that's insulting insulting I'm saying because people that weren't watching your show that you didn't finish you can't be by S I didn't finish no but you keep but you keep was going to say that people that did that did not watch your show because there was so much dedication to talking about Trump during those years then were switched on to your show because you moved on you started talking about other topics that were crucial and I think brought in more of a conservative base can we just yeah it is can we just have this professional courtesy that I will I will I concede and I believe you believe everything you say give me the same courtesy I said I I believe you hate Trump well you're saying I'm doing things for Ratings or to bring in a different audience never I actually believe that literally amongst my audiences more conservative started watching you post Trump myself included that's a big that's a bad I'm sorry I said you got a bigger audience now like oh my gosh you to people like no no no you ascribed a reason to it that's not true I do have a bigger conservative audience and a less woke audience probably more people who were Common Sense Centrist good fine I didn't do it for that reason I never said you did it for that reason I I did not imply that I didn't I genuinely me okay yeah Trump got out of office you started focusing on different topics other than Trump and people were able to see that he wasn't president anymore of course I'm not fauling you I'm just making a comment that your I think that your audience base has gotten a lot bigger since Trump left office some people might even take that as a compliment uh diff different crazy but some people might take this as a compliment thank you well for that part yeah yeah because you're talking about like we just talked about like you know trans kids and bring up geography and things and I think that while Trump was in office and this is not just your show that it was even my show I think it everything was about Trump everything was about Trump I agree right and it wasn't that it's never been that way for any other president never and not everything was about Obama other presidents weren't a nut like that we have definitely I think I I believe that there and and we can disagree on this I think that from the second he announced that he was coming down there was a media obsession with taking him down like I have never seen it actually woke me up I was on the liberal side and it turned me into a conservative it was vicious it was nasty it was think that he wasn't you didn't participate in that but that Trump was like a vowed racist that was trying to bring back the Clans man was a little bit like dramatic you but that happens with every president and everybody who gets that high up in the tree you know when I I don't know how far back it goes probably to George Washington when a person is the one who's going to be in power the people who want to prevent that who think oppositely of how he thinks or she thinks yes that's what they do they try to destroy they didn't try to destroy Obama the way that they come on Trump you had the Lisa blue period where you had 85 million women that came out of the woodwork with allegations where were you guys he's been in the public Sphere for the last 30 years he's had shows where were you guys with your allegations before he announced R president I mean it was so obviously a ratchet job and these things matter me because it doesn't matter one matter it doesn't matter one of them is right from the horse's mouth saying I grab [ __ ] he didn't say I grab [ __ ] he did he said these he was talking about groupies he said they will literally let you do anything including grab them by the about groupies yeah he was he never said that word he said when you're a star yes that that's that's quite a leap to say we're just talking about groupies and by the way he didn't say I grabbed this woman by the p word and I think that that's a part of what I say we have there's so many media hoaxes just be honest said you can grab them by the [ __ ] he said you can grab them by the [ __ ] yeah and you can do anything you can grab these girls and they see a star that that's literally by the way just to be clear that's a fact just to be clear you shouldn't do that right shouldn't yes but but let's just be honest about what he said this is locker room talk men talking about you know hang out with a lot of athletes about women that throw themselves on them simply because of who they are and they'll let you do anything to them we do live in this this you know just to put economy of women who will quite literally let men especially now with the birth of only fans and Tik Tok and the rise becoming a star that if you are a star they will let you do whatever they want and then the media pretended he said I personally went in and grabbed a Woman by the p word is it's locky talk is it crass yes do women also speak crass women are looking yes I'm very much you know I'm I'm not saying this is great speech and I would love to hear if my husband was saying this about you know but I'm just trying to be rational and not be like me too crazy and acknowledge that both men and women have locker room talk I have an important question where can I find these women I'm sure you've had your fair share bill in Los Angeles where everyone's trying to be a star or be in the industry or sleep with the star of women that have thrown themselves on you I live strictly for America and what I can do Jesus Christ right well not Jesus Christ but I live strictly to educate to to edutain America that's where all my energy goes I wish I had time for some of these divers you know exactly that what he was saying and that was something that I also hated too because I'm like I'm very against the me too movement I'm very against all of this like rabid feminism I don't like the idea of I actually think it does really bad relations between men and women to pretend like some things are not abundantly true that we don't have a culture of groupies and hoes and thoughts and music videos we do and it's fine and not every woman is like this and I wouldn't love to hear my husband say it but I also would be like right our girls that would let you do anything to them right it's funny that we can admit about men that they're dogs because most of them are um but we can't admit that girls are [ __ ] but we can't that feels not fair well I feel fewer of fewer women are [ __ ] than males are dogs almost I just learned that you are not on only fans which is lovely that I'm what that you're clearly not on only fans where they're literally selling their bodies for a certain price oh God no yeah now there's AI only fans they're not even real people and men are giving all their money to it and it's it's getting pretty crazy I mean I know that we're always concentrating in this country on how we can help women and we certainly should but the truth is the people who were lost I mean they're both lost everyone's lost but the people who were really lost and don't have their [ __ ] together are men I mean women are killing it in college they're doing better you know in the workpl lower suicide rates yes more colle graduates and and I think this is a per perfectly emblematic of why men are just lost I mean if you can't even be a SLE bag right you know you can't even [ __ ] I mean you're we've given up on like having a healthy relationship or even the kind of life I've Liv where like I've had healthy relationships but never got married okay I'm not a crazy person and I'm not an unfeeling person and everything is very real we've given up on all that and now we're just like uh to degrees of how you're going to like be a John and you pick I don't even actually get laid that's sad on so many levels men are struggling they really are struggling and I think it's it's where did this come from what's your theory I I think I think pornography is is really harming men and it's everywhere and it's so available and it's at your fingertips could not agree more and when they're introduced too young it completely establishes their brain Pathways in a way that ruins them for life you know what I mean it's you it's it's not you shouldn't be introduced to that sort of and I don't even want to call it pornography because it's something else now I didn't like see porn on my computer until really maybe 5 years ago because I was kind of afraid I heard about cookies and like they actually knowing what I'm looking at the first time I saw PornHub I was hooked and but like magazines was like always the way it was and I saw them there was a big controversy in the 70s when Hugh Hefner had to decide whether he wanted to show pubic hair they had no pubic hair you did not see p and this is when they had pubic hair yeah exactly you know he had to decide between that and the American car company's accounts which was big because advertising was a big part of where you made your money in magazines and Ford and General Motors were not going to advertise in a place that showed pubic ha right and then I'm sure they did probably in the ad probably okay so then I remember Penthouse comes along I mean it was basically stills from porn movies what what decade this is probably around 2000 I think maybe the 90s you could see that I mean yeah I think in the 90s absolutely there were lots of magazines gent and and Sheree and we not that I knew all of them shaved Asian okay I knew all of them but like I remember you passing the magazine stands in New York when I lived in the and there was '90s and there was like like dozens of these kind of magazines for very specific Kinks so it it was moving toward that direction and then we come to where every kid has a little computer in their hands and there's no more plots I mean there's no more I mean I remember the old porn movie where was like it was like a Broadway play except instead of breaking into song they'd break into [ __ ] every 15 minutes but you'd have to kind of Wade through the pizza delivery guy and you know okay then finally they get to it now it's just right to it and it is you're so right I'm telling you as someone who's seen the whole Arc of it it's rapy in a way it never was it's ugly it's just ugly it doesn't turn me on yeah it's deviant and this is people are are how it's impacting people and their productive relationships and how they how they think you know sex is supposed to be had or attained so we've come a very long way and and now we're talking about the introduction of pornography as a topic in the school system which is now a thing right like normalizing pornography I learned actively in school that you should watch porn it's super healthy well now this is maybe right before porn became as deranged as it is today and you're thinking that they're now learning that it's healthy to watch porn and then when they're exposed to porn they're watching something that just cannot be good for their their neuro Pathways like they they cannot be good for their brains to think that this is a normal sexual relationship and for men obviously women are biologically we don't have the same instincts that men have when it comes to sex and I think are we allowed to say that men and women are different biologically um no I did not mean that we are the same um we are exactly the same but it's rendering them weak So Different yeah it's rendering men very weak self-control impulse everything and then it's incredible when I talk about pouring out my podcast how many men respond and say like you know I've been struggling with this addiction for years yes I want help men don't talk about this anymore we're all struggling with this it's porn is everywhere I open my Instagram well I've been struggling with that addiction and I don't want help because it's fantastic well you can lead the charge well you know it's it's not unhealthy to like have a fantasy life with your porn girlfriends or your people in the magazines all those years I mean it's it releases tension you don't always have a girlfriend yeah I would I would push back on that I think that porn is really unhealthy for men and I think any any porn I I think I think and I have noticed this by the way in speaking to like Dennis Prager cuz he grew up with the magazines that the the understanding what it is now well it's just very different you know what I find to be the sickest perversion of all and married people admit to it they admit that it's so boring to have sex that they freely think of other people when they're having sex I find that to be the worst perversion of all you're basically masturbating inside another human being who you supposedly love more than anybody else while you're thinking about the the checkout girl at episode of Black Mirror you were like an episode of Black Mirror was talking about this like in the potential for Tech to meet that moment where people could be wearing goggles and also having right and that could Happ that could essentially you are wearing goggles but it's inside your head yeah I mean I just don't get that thing of like yeah that's cool you know we we have sex and you know I'm just thinking about anybody anybody but her or him why didn't you get married that's very quite unusual that's why I mean that's the main reason I cannot accept a life without hot sex did you ever get close yes yeah how many times twice twice yeah and then cold feet on your part uh no three times three times um yes I would say you got close yeah I got close I mean I was engaged when I was 29 okay you know but um I kind of knew even as we were engaged and buying the ring and all that stuff I just there was a voice in my back in my head always saying really you're just going to [ __ ] this one person forever so it was about the sex yeah I told you yeah I really so I I think that that does show that pornography and sex is something that is not a good thing you may be right May right it prevented you from unlocking this thing and you're right that you could be whole other side of your life that's so beautiful wonderful that you never get to and so I think and then now you times that by just yeah porn everywhere porn when you are just literally walking down the street and you see an ad and you're like oh I don't know why she has to be naked to sell me this purse but apparently she has to be naked I mean it's also the case that you know not take the sex out of the equation I mean is anyone really that interesting that you're the the only person you want to spend this much time with I mean you know Annie M said the many people and and I I said outside of marriage too I mean I I wish every day actually today is my grandpa's death anniversary that he's one person I could speak to every day I I would I would get rid of six friends to have my to only be able to speak to my grandfather as my friend yeah there are people that are that interesting did he raise you yeah oh yeah and to be able to have those conversations with him like there are people that are just that interesting why didn't your parents raise you um well we lived in my grandparents house but my grandfather was the patriarch of the home without question so he uh you know was set the breakfast and made us breakfast and read the Bible to us and really instilled the values even though I did go a very liberal route to conservative ISM you know I thought I was a liberal um I I kind of went back to what were his politics he didn't have any he didn't he didn't he was a conservative but he was not politically inclined conservative in terms of met my grandma when he was 17 like what did he think of John F Kennedy he was probably a young man see I wish he was still alive because I could I wish I was alive so I could talk about the moon now now that we're talking about it um yeah but there are so many people and especially now as people lack so much depth and so much character and and you know to even find for me it's difficult to even find interesting friends so I get what you're talking about do I want to talk to this person forever no but my grandfather people that lived what would your grandfather have said about the people who say like um racism has never been worse yeah it's funny you say that because I was kind of the first politically inclined person in my show in my family and it was interesting to kind of see how everyone reacted to it and my grandfather I cared very deeply about what my grandfather thought about me very deeply I careed very deeply about my grandfather thinks about me and um he called me up one day and I happen to have been invited to speak about the rise of white supremacy in front of Congress I don't know if you ever seen that clip of me my Grandad my granddad was sitting behind me and when I did my opening statement I said that part of the reason that I'm so compelled to dispel this narrative is because my grandfather grew up with real racism my grandfather had the real clansmen shooting inside of his home in fville North Carolina he was a boy and how insulting for me to harness what he lived through I haven't lived through a day of that in my life right because I want clicks and Views and for people to feel bad for me that should make people sick when they do that when they pretend and that's all I'm ever asking my granddad what's so crazy about I wrote about this in my book and why I'm the way I am I am today is that when my grandfather would go into these stories about the clansmen who hated his dad and I think it was cuz his dad was you know um you know the kind of person that might whistle at a white girl you know what I mean but anyways when they they hated his father he um he'd go back in the story and he'd say we wed the back of the house me and the kids my grandpa was one of 12 and we'd run under the bed one of 12 one of 12 yeah and then you're carrying on the tradition exactly my granddad would say and then my my daddy would grab the shotgun and speak back at them and and shoot back at them boys like so powerful not this like you know oh my God I looked at this college is not accept it's like we're just black people have gotten weak and it saddens me because we were funny you know like the concept for me of comedians black people being able to turn pain into humor funnier than everybody else like always from this position of strength and I had so much pride in that growing up I had pride in my grandfather pride in Black America and to see it all suddenly dissipate for me with the rise of the BLM narrative you know this idea that like no matter what whenever Bill Mar thinking he just sees me as it like that's a horrible I want to be a to make fun of you for your race I want you to make fun of me I want to be able to talk stereotypes CU they're real and and I've seen you like take people apart like about black dorms yeah black only dorms I saw you with the guy I forget who it was but I mean you when you chop someone up you do it like nobody's business and again when I'm agreeing with you it's just such a pleasure to watch that and that's all I'm ever asking with when I and I've been you know you're a there are lots of idiot like commentators like Bill Ms are I'm not a racist I just want the truth just don't lie to me but don't you miss being able to make fun of each other in like a feel good way go watch the old standup comedians they would walk in they'd be on stage and they would just literally you could not survive you were Chinese you're getting a joke you're black you're getting a joke about your and everyone is being offended and everyone's laughing and when they walk out they're Closer Closer Closer because you need to now when when you're walking on eggshells see I can't make a joke because if it's taken the wrong way issue an apology and that way we don't get closer yeah we never get closer we never get closer and I'm I still keep that in my friendships I make fun of my friends for I'm like oh well it's cuz you're black or that cuz you're Spanish oh you're Jewish and that and that is why we are so close because we are able to that is actually and it's not to say that racism still doesn't there's always going to be stupid people like like there will all be criminals yes exactly the people are dumb we get that you know exactly you're going to find these people is it in a country that's now 39% non-white and where most of the white people are not bigots anymore they might not be as enlightened as you and your [ __ ] have you ever had a real racist that's you laugh about no I'm serious you know everyone gets accused of racism but have you ever met like a real like the what what always gets missed here is if you ever met a real rist you wouldn't take a racist seriously because they're so stupid like I it's like you can't I mean it's like brain never developed like for example the the docu series I'm doing right now tell me about um convicting a murderer which is a 10-part docu series that working on right now we've got the prison calls of this person that the media turned into a hero Steven Avery Netflix did this whole bit make you think he was innocent and um we went back and got the prison calls between Steven Avery and his family they should be listened to right they're dropping the n-word over and over these people can barely put together a sentence right the idea that I would be offended by this prison call would actually lower it would lower my standards you get what I'm saying for me to be offended by this this person who literally they don't comprehend things they're so stupid they've you know lived in in this trailer park forever you know what I'm saying that I'm like am I supposed to be offended or shock that this person is dropping the n-word over there's no black person that's going to watch this series and be like there it is the like nobody's fearful of this racism and by the way he ended up killing a white a white girl you know because this is that's why I think people also misses that you're actually giving too much power that's why I love what my grandfather did you give too much power to and this is see to me and we don't have to get into a big screaming match about it but to me there isn't Donald if you ask me if Donald Trump's a racist I would say like just with any crime there degradations of it is he the worst kind absolutely not it's a very kind of passive of his generation let me give you a little story about like when I was working at the Bergen Community College my summer job I was going to Iva League school and stupidly making like $20 a day working basically as a janitor an outdoor janitor at the local community college so I had this boss you know he was like this was like a summer program they hired a few college kids to give them a little money so he was always smok a non-filter cigarette and one time we were on the truck going somewhere to clean some [ __ ] up and he saw a bunch of little black kids and he says yeah they're cute now but they grow up to be the word I can't say right to me that and I remember thinking I was 19 years old wow you [ __ ] races to me that is a RAC it's a RAC it's a totally racist okay so that guy does exist in the world that was 1974 right he exists less 100% because he died yeah he not all of them the point not all of them yeah when you hear Stephen Aver's parents they're dead now right but it's like yeah I would suspect that where they grew up also I mean we have polling on this like the amount of white people in 1974 who thought that they would like to live in a diverse Community was like 90 points different than it is now yeah like most Americans want to live in a diverse Community that's that's a huge sea change these are these are facts yeah I actually have a question for you because I'm kind of miffed by this a