Let's get into it. It is wild. Happy Thursday, everybody. I think this should be coming out Thursday. This is a very interesting episode. There has been a lot going on. Candace Owens goes at Turning Points. I mean, we're just going to break down the drama, the drama, the saga of Candace Owens versus Turning Point. I mean, this is like Game of Thrones, you know? She's the rightful heir to the throne. There's another There's another person put on the throne. She's trying. She Candace Owens is Daenerys. Oh my goodness. But she's her own dragon. She doesn't even need a dragon. She's her own dragon. Anyway, let's just get into this whole thing. Candace goes at Turning Point. Turning Point goes at Candace in a very, very small way. I talked about that before. And then they go at her in a very big way. Now, there have been responses from Mikey McCoy. There have been responses from Blake. There have been responses from Andrew Kvette. And I'm just and Frank Turk. So, I'm going to be breaking down all of this for you guys right now. And then I'll even uh if I can pull up my Instagram, I'll even pull up a quick thing from Candace because as I'm recording this, Candace is going to be going live soon. And uh yeah, there's a whole bunch. Now, just so you know, I always like to give people a little refresher to understand exactly what's going on. Now, the reason that Turning Point is responding the way that they have is because Candace said on uh December 2nd, she said, "I received information last night that put the final pieces together for me. I can now say with full confidence I believe Charlie Kirk was betrayed by the leadership of Turning Point USA and some of the very people who util Come on, you can say it, Colin. Eulogized him on stage. There we go. Let's get into it. Uh yes, I will be naming names and providing the evidence uh for my claims. I am making a personal plea to every well-meaning person who donated to this godforsaken organization to request a refund. You were lied to and the leadership knew. So that was what Candace Owens put out and that sent shock waves through the internet. Now, she doubled down with that by going on her podcast, going live and addressing these things, calling out Turning Point, calling out Andrew Kvette. And also, just from her saying this, Andrew Kvette did respond. This is how he responded in a very, very subliminal way. Didn't act Candace, didn't say anything to her. He just wrote, "Lying lips are an abomination to the Lord, but those who are faithful, who act faithfully, are his delight." Proverbs 12:22 ESV. Now, Benny Johnson actually put this same thing out. I know I told you guys about that. Benny Johnson, I think he received some heat from putting this out because everybody knew what he was doing alongside Andrew. And he took his quote down right away. I actually showed you guys proof of that the last time, but you got to follow along with the episodes. Like and subscribe and all that fun stuff. Now, let's get into this. She says this about Andrew Kvette, okay? And then I'm going to show you what he said. >> We hanging out in Delaware. And there's one more thing that came in regarding uh Andrew Kovette. very close family friend of Andrew Kovat had messaged me uh early on and I again was not tracking any of this at the time but they had said that they felt that Andrew Kovette was acting weird and I'm sure that's not a big deal I think we were all acting weird Charlie was assassinated but moreover they had mentioned that specifically Andrew had told them that when Charlie said no to BB he lost out on millions Now, I'm going to say allegedly because this is a tip, but I have that tip in writing. I'm not lying to you. And I thought to myself, that is so weird. How could the spokesperson at Turning Point USA be on the How could they be gaining millions from that? What's the What is the What is the structure here of these contracts that even people that are in PR, people that are like running PR departments are getting tips on the basis of donations. I don't know how this is working, but we need to figure out how this is working. I think I think it's really important that we that we learn the truth about what happened. Who's Pierre? Is it Pierre Dupont? And has Turning Point been paid? Obviously, it wouldn't be on this year's taxes. You're not going to find those on on this year's taxes, but they would be on next year's, but we can ask now. And I'm asking now, and there's more I want to share, but we're going to take a brief break. >> So, that is what she had to say. Andrew, out of character. You could tell they were getting ticked off because Andrew actually wrote something to this. Now, he didn't address Candace, but he addressed the person who posted and tagged Candace. He says, "Lol, big LOL. This is laughably untrue. There were never any BB bucks." I like that. Neither Philadelphia nor uh the P the the the emperor of Philadelphia ever offered uh and Charlie wouldn't have accepted if they did literally have a broad rule against accepting foreign foreign money. I don't know how true that is, but okay. And I certainly wouldn't have made any money off of it. So Andrew just says straight up not true. Um I'm just seeing something right here. Somebody is somebody posted this. Huh. I wonder if this is actual. Interesting. BB Bucks. Lol. Uh Santa Barbara. Tell us more about that. Uh Resolute Media Group LLC. Your Phantom Entity. Casinos Vegas mob. Andrew goes to there. Charlie Kirk goes to there. Tyler Boore goes to there. Huh. Interesting. So, he's saying he wouldn't have made any money off of it, which makes sense on the surface. This person's saying there actually is a little bit of a way for them to make money off of something like that. Interesting. Again, didn't even plan on showing you that, but that is what Andrew said in response. Now, it gets deeper because Blake Blake himself and I love what Blake did here. Um, but also anytime I see someone reading something, I feel like it's disingenuous just a little bit. Um, but you know, not everybody can just talk like this for an hour, half an hour, 40 minutes at a time. It's actually a very hard thing to do. But this is what Blake had to say, and this is from his account himself. This is not a repost. This is what Blake had to say. Uh, for the past three months, we've received a flood of questions about Candace Owens and her claims attacking Charlie's closest friends. Notice they will always hide behind Charlie. The pastors have been doing that. He's doing that now. They will always hide behind Charlie. Always. They will always try to link an attack on them is an attack on Charlie. And I personally don't think that's true. For 3 months, we have preferred to remain silent, but the attacks have not stopped. Today I deliver this response. Let's check out this response, guys. Listen to this. All right, guys. There's three things I need you to do. Like, subscribe, and go check out the Patreon. That's it. Get back to the episode. We wanted to use this segment at the top of this hour to say something important, something very important. For the past two and a half months, there is a topic that has flooded our freedom inbox. It has been non-stop on social media, but which we have almost totally avoided on this show. You probably already know what I'm talking about, which shows just how ubiquitous it has been. Ever since Charlie's murder, Candace Owens has leveled a flood of allegations against people at Turning Point USA, people at Turning Point Action, and people who work for this show. She has made them against some of Charlie's closest friends and against some of his most dedicated employees. She has suggested that Michael McCoy, Charlie's chief of staff, knew Charlie would be murdered, was happy that he died, and stayed silent because he was told he would be the next Charlie. She has suggested Michael is not his real name. It is, I have seen his birth certificate myself. She has called it suspicious that Mikey's wife, who works at Turning Point, helped plan the campus tour event where Charlie was murdered, which she didn't, by the way. She doesn't work on campus events. Candace has suggested the Utah Valley University event was unusual and its details suggested a quote inside job. She has claimed that foreign aircraft have followed Erica Kirk around the country and that Turning Point has lied about this happening. She has accused us of lying about Charlie wanting Erica to take over for him if he died. She has suggested Charlie's security team intentionally denied him first aid after the shooting to ensure that he died. She has raised suspicions about the head of our technical team because he took an SD card out of a camera. She has spread absurd claims that Tyler Ber, who we just had on the show, sexually abuses male interns. She has suggested that TPUSA faith affiliated pastors like theologian Frank Turk, who we'll have on in a moment, and pastor Rob McCoy, are part of a military quote infiltration of Turning Point, either because they are veterans or because they have family members who are. Even if not everyone has been named specifically though, Candace has effectively tred everyone here with complicity in Charlie's death by repeatedly saying he was quote betrayed by quote everyone. She has said Charlie's murder quote had to be approved by Charlie's friends and then suggested those friends might have her murdered too for quote knowing the truth. She has made claims of financial impropriy and fraud at turning point adding up into the millions of dollars which again is not true. Charlie made sure the organization was audited by a third party every year. He personally reviewed and he signed off on every expense report and literally every single bill paid by the organization down to a single United States dollar. We have never missed a 990 deadline. Candace has made other stranger allegations involving French paratroopers in maroon shirts, uh Egyptian Air Force planes flying out of Provo, Utah, and potential underground assassins traveling through unseen tunnels. At this at one point in early November, she started wildly throwing suspicion on members of Utah Valley's soccer team for wearing hoodies. I could go on. There is always something new coming up and none of it ever pans out because from the start there has been nothing there. The attacks and allegations from Candace are either lies or they are innuendos thrown around with a total reckless disregard for the truth so that Candace can manipulate and string along an audience of people who don't realize they are being played. Instead of being able to grieve properly after one of the most heinous murders in American history, a murder many of us had to witness, my friends have had to endure harassment from people who have gotten whipped up by what Candace is saying. In fact, I would say we have suffered more harassment from these people than we have from Antifa supporters who overtly celebrate Charlie's murder. And just like a lot of those Antifa members, many of these people take this delight in how gross and unpleasant they can be. What our friends have had to endure is not funny and it's not insignificant. It is evil. I have seen it. For months, we have received hundreds, thousands, I suspect, emails and calls asking us to respond. People have wanted us to invite Candace on the show. But for a long time, our approach was to say nothing. We did that for several reasons. First, we've first, we thought that her prearications were so absurd that nobody would believe them. We shouldn't have to answer questions about secret tunnels or Egyptian Air Force planes. That sort of thing is just it's beneath contempt to respond to. The second reason we've said so little, though, is because there's a good rule of thumb, which Charlie followed. Do not feed the trolls. Focus on the mission. Reviving America, uplifting young people, making heaven crowded. Don't give heir to people who want to tear you down. And so discord. Lastly, we didn't respond because Charlie always viewed Candace as a friend, and we were holding out hope that she would return that friendship and stop what she was doing. But a week from now, it's going to be 3 months since Charlie's murder. Candace has not changed her behavior. She has continued to spread falsehoods about Charlie's friends and she continues to concoct new ones about new people. She's using these falsehoods to enrich herself while dividing the conservative movement at an absolutely critical time for this country. And far too often we here have heard from ordinary people, people who loved Charlie and who Charlie loved so much in return. These people have expressed the worry that we are staying silent out of cowardice or as some sort of tacit admission that some of the attacks are true. Neither is the case. Our silence has never been and it will never be equal to complacency or approval. Still, we decided Charlie would not allow this to go on. Charlie was not a coward. Charlie was a fighter. Charlie would not allow someone to spread lies about the people closest to him with impunity, and he would feel ashamed if other people were stepping up to defend his friends while he never did so himself. Candace has mentioned several times that the ball is in our court. So, here's what is going to happen. In the near future, there will be a live stream here in Phoenix where we address in a clear and comprehensive way the claims and accusations, the false accusations that have been made against Charlie's family, friends, and the people here at Turning Point. We plan to walk through everything carefully and thoroughly. If Candace is available, we would sincerely welcome her participation in that live stream at our studio here in Phoenix. At this point, we believe the ball is back in her court. Our motivation for doing this is not out of any obligation to Candace. It is about honoring Charlie. We feel a deep responsibility to protect his legacy, his work, and the truth. I feel that I owe Charlie everything in my life. It I feel it immensely. And that is why we feel compelled to speak clearly and openly now. We'll have more on this in the near future. So, there we go. Blake has challenged Candice. Blake and the boys. It'll be uh four against one, maybe three against one, maybe two against one. Um I would suggest they go for the four when it comes to Candace because uh she she seems to have her ducks in a row, especially if you're sitting down to have a walkth through type of debate point for point for point. hide. They're not They're just not going to be prepared for that. I'm just saying it right now. Andrew's not going to be prepared. Blake's not going to be prepared. If Frank's there, he's not going to handle it. Mikey's not going the They're not prepared for this type of thing. They're just not. No one there has what Charlie had except for Candace. So, have fun. I've always said I don't I don't even like debates. I don't even like watching them. But if I did, the only person I would ever say, "No, I'm never debating that person is Candace Owens. She's the only one." I'd be like, "No, no, of course not. I concede." What What were What was the disagreement? She's right. She wins. That's what I would do. I would back out of that real quick. Not interested in that. Not Not interested in that adrenaline. Not even close. Am I interested? Now, if we just walk through some things that Blake said, um, when they go through the Egyptian plane thing, I don't know what they're going to do. I really don't because you can't just be like, "That's nonsense." Like, she has the flight logs of them being this plane being in I think what was it something like I want to say and I feel like I'm lowballing the number 48 different times where Erica was, this plane was. And it's not even like it's all random planes. It's like the same two planes over and over again. And then Char or I think Erica's was in the 70s of how many and then Charlie was there 29 times. I'm pretty sure that's what Candace said. So, I don't know how they're just going to dismiss that as like, oh, this is nonsense. Then denied first aid. Candace did not say that the uh that the security team denied first aid. Everybody, including myself, just questioned what was going on. What actually was happening? Because they were saying one thing and then you're seeing another thing. I've gone over this many times. They'll say one thing, you see another thing. And the only person who's like, "This all checks out," is Gary from Paramount Tactical. And then you see he's friends with Brian Harpool, the head of the security. So you're like, "Okay, help your friend out." But you know, and then he got proven this wrong by me via X and by Valhalla VFT with the breakdown that he did. And then you know, Valhalla wasn't wasn't addressing Gary. He was just making a breakdown, but the breakdown was exquisite. It was perfect. It was just it showed everything perfectly. He broke it down perfectly. And he actually has experience in that type of scenario. So, uh, there was no denial, people saying they denied first aid. It just didn't make sense. And I was actually the one who brought up the EMTs first and how the EMTs were there and they were kind of just like, "Oh, we're getting in this car and those EMTs aren't coming with us." I was actually the first person to say that. That's not really a denial of aid, but again, it's all about raising questions. Now, the Rob McCoy Frank Turk link, uh, link to, you know, whatever their backgrounds are, father, uh, there is a link there. I mean, is it a suspicious link? I don't know. But there is a link there. So he's Blake is kind of saying it like there is no link there, but there is. There actually is a link there. So there's that whole thing. And you know, Candace did a crazy uh had to be approved. Oh, I don't remember what they were saying. Uh oh. Oh, that they had to approve what happened to Charlie. I don't remember Candace actually saying that. But I do know that a lot of us have been like, "What happened here?" and everybody's actions around it made it feel like something like that, but I don't remember Candace ever saying anything like that. And then uh the claims of fraud. I I think that's more uh you guys corrected me on this, Wolves and Finance. He's been breaking all that down and he's been actually doing a great job and you'd have to address him. But, you know, there's going to be some things that they're going to put on Candace cuz she's the big one that's really making the waves and the noise. They're not going to go to Wolves and Finance and be like, "You said this and let's talk about this." They don't want to do that, especially with a clear financial guy who's actually boots on the ground in this situation. And then the Doge audit, I mean, you know, there's a Doge audit. There's an actual audit. There's an actual audit that Charlie put together and then he passed away. I think it was like two or three days later. So, you can say that there's one every single year, but this was different. The internal memo that he put together, he was assigning someone to it. He said it's a Dogeel-like effort. There's no way he was saying this is a Dogeelike effort every single year before we even knew about the term Dogeelike effort. So, I I just got to call these things out. And the 1090 deadlines saying that you never missed one. Again, you go to Wolves and Financial. I think I'm saying that. Wolves in Finance. Sorry if I'm messing it up again. Shout out to that guy by the way. Uh you'd have to see his work on it because Candace actually I believe she shouted him out in the work. So you can't really like they're trying to pin everything to Candace. And then the tunnels I don't I I know everybody looked into the trap door theory. I don't think Candace said anything about tunnels. I don't think anybody did. It was just about trap doors. Like there was a trap door and what's up with that trap door? These are all very valid questions and Blake is trying to actually set this whole thing up where it's like none of this is valid and the fact that you're even bringing up any of this is so beneath us and so crazy. It's um it's actually pretty silly. And then I have to go through the green hoodie guy that break uh Blake brought up. the green hoodie guy. That was a research or sorry, that was a that was a line of thought, a a line of questioning that Sam Parker had. And Sam Parker said, "Who is this guy?" And Candace just provided a clear picture of the guy. That wasn't her theory. That wasn't even anything she was researching. Nothing. And the guy actually said, "Oh, we just wear things like this. That's it." Blake's trying to he's really trying to play it up like there's all these crazy things, but these things aren't that crazy. And I'm not saying this because I'm bi I am biased. I do agree with Candace on a lot of what she says. A lot more than a lot. 90% of what she's been saying. Probably hundred. Some things are just over my head. That's all. Um but this is not these are not crazy things. And it's not just her saying it. They're acting like all this is happening because of Candace. And that's just not true. Take Candace away. I'm still going. Ian's still going. Everybody on X that you see is still going. Baron's still going. No one stop. Jesse on fire. I know I know the guy personally now. He's not going to stop. He's not He's barely even looking to Candace for anything. He does sometimes, but he has his own research line of thought where he's questioning things. So, and then dividing the conservatives. Again, I really do have to hit this home. It is not Candace that's dividing them. It is that when people go, "Oh, this seems really weird." Well, I'm going to go to my favorite people to see what they're saying about this whole thing. Like even even in this thread, I think somebody even even uh added me in this thread. They're like, "Oh, I can't look. It's right there. Can't wait. can't wait what this person and coach Colin have to say about this. Look, and that's what they posted. People go, "Hey, I wonder what this person has to say." And when you know there's something weird going on or there's some big story, right, and you go to that person that you always go to and you see that they're like, "Oh, there's nothing weird there. Let's talk about this." It sets off alarm bells. You go, "Huh, that's weird." And then that thing continues to be weird. and that person that you always go to for content continues to ignore it and continues to ignore it, it it sets off alarm bells and then those people decide, you know what, I'm not listening to these guys anymore. I don't like this organization anymore. I don't like this channel anymore. That's where the divide is. It's not Candice doing it. It's when people Turning Point I mean Tim Cass Steven I mean there's a whole thing with Tim like Tim Tim's been on the weirdest deep end I've ever seen. Um but you shout out to him you know Tim Foil Speedo's over here. We we appreciate the weirdness. Uh but when you see that type of thing it makes you it makes you want to divide. It makes you pick a side. If everybody was like, "Let's get together and figure out this thing and actually go down these avenues. Let's go down the trapoor. Let's go down the detonator. Let's go." Was it from behind? Was it this? Was Charlie wearing a steel plate? If everybody together, Ben Shapiro, Tim, me, all these people, if they were all together doing it, there'd be no divide. But when you look at people who are questioning this and you say that they're crazy, that they're they're they're they're nuts, they uh they're they're drinking Kool-Aid, oh, it's just these Candace stands. When you start branding them, when you start giving them names, when you start insulting them, you cause the divide. So, a lot of turning point silence actually cause this divide. A lot of people holding up signs. Tucker. Tucker's not a part of this anymore. Disavow Tucker. Those people started the divide. Ben Shapiro interrogating Megan Kelly. That started the divide. That's what ends up happening. Anyway, anyway, not to get too into it. We're not even done here. Jeez, I was just TED talking. My bad, guys. Let's get into Mikey McCoy here. Uh Mikey McCoy, uh not all that's done in the name of truth and justice promotes truth and accomplishes justice. I like that line. I have to I you know, say what you want about Mikey, the old uh moonwalker, Moonwalker, Mikey McCoy. Say what you want about Moonwalker Mikey McCoy, but I like that line quite a bit. Thankful for the incredible Blake Frank Turk on the show today. I'll be happy to address this on the live stream with you guys. So, we got Blake. I think we got Andrew. We're going to have Mikey McCoy. It's going to be like five people versus Candace. It's pretty amazing. But here's the thing. Also, I will say this. Why didn't they just answer her when she said things? If somebody's like, "Hey, what's going on with Mikey McCoy? Why why did he This guy wrote sincerely Mikey McCoy." And he put a question mark because is that his real name? Oh, that's nice. Cool. Uh, smart. S smart. I like it. But, but why didn't you just address this? It's very easy. It's so simple. You know, when we're talking about the green hoodie guy, the green hoodie guy was like he literally just commented. He said, "Hey guys, that's me. I wear uh we wear weird things like that. I'm part of a soccer team." And then you go to his his Instagram or whatever, and you see just picture after picture of him wearing these things, wearing hoodies, this that sports guy. Sports guys dress like that. They wear hoodies, you know, they wear hoodies, they wear shorts, they're wearing sweatpants. That's just how they go. Especially like soccer guys, basketball guys. That's how they're dressing most of the time. They're relaxing. So, why not just do that? It's easy to just jump on X and be like, "Hey guys, I know that you guys saw me walking away, but let me tell you something about what happened." If he just put all that out there, there'd be no videos. There was like dozens of videos of Mikey McCoy doing this because of the silence. It's weird. They're acting like Candace caused all this and now we have to solve it when in reality they caused these things to happen and it wasn't just Candace. A lot of things that Candace has brought up I brought up before she did. I saw I've seen Baron bring things up before she did. There's a bunch of us who have brought up things before Candace has. Candace just packages it in this colossal way. You know, she just has that thing. But so many of us were bringing up these things. He could have just addressed it. Would have just went away straight up. Anyway, let's jump over to another clip. Okay. Frank Turk going on his own little brand of TED talk in here. It's getting loud. He's getting real loud. >> The night before Charlie was murdered, and I'm not just saying this, but I went into his office. This was after we had a meeting. You were in the meeting, Blake. Me, you, Charlie, and some other folks. And he was going to dinner. And he said, "Hey, you're going to dinner with Blake." and and Danny, he said, "Blake is my secret weapon. He's the smartest man I know." And uh he loved you. And for anybody to suggest, whether it's Candace Owens or any other person within TPUSA was somehow complicit in his murder, is to say that Charlie Kirk was such a bad judge of character that he put a bunch of traitors around him. If there's anything I knew about Charlie Kirk is he knew how to spot talent and integrity and people that wanted to make a difference for the Lord and the country. Charlie, >> that's true. But also, you know, it's not just saying that Charlie was a bad judge of character. I don't think that's the thing that people are saying. the people are saying, you know, when someone's deceitful, they know how to get by uh someone who's a good judge of character. They know what to do. And I'm not saying everyone at Turning Point did that. And then there's also the fact of you could spot someone who has great talent, uh great love for the Lord and all those good things and then somewhere along the line they change. That's also a possibility. I'm not saying that happened to these guys, but to act like, you know, once Charlie says you're good, that's it. You're good forever. It's like, no, that's not even how God works. That's not that's not even how the religion that we we're all going by works. You're not just good forever. Sometimes you fall off course. Sometimes you need to repent. You need to come back to God. You need to repent. Turn away from your sin. There's a whole bunch of things. And he knows this. That's the I hope he's not there because he's just they're not as good at this as as they think when you really listen to what they're saying. was brilliant at that. It takes a lot more faith to believe that Charlie didn't know who his friends were and picked all the wrong people to surround him to build an organization that came from nothing to the most powerful conservative organization in the country. He I mean in in 13 years he built it and it was it was big before 13 years, you know. He he He really got it moving in about seven or eight years later. It it strains credul to suggest that people within that organization, people that he handpicked himself, some credul. Oh, that goes right up there with dastardly. Oh man, I've never even heard that word before. Oh, go ahead, Frank. You know, Frank has been hanging out with that black preacher. You know, they've been hanging out. And that black preacher looked at him and said, "You know what you got to say? You know what you got to say? Listen to me, Frank. Look me in the eye, Frank. You got to say it takes credul." And Frank was like, "Good gosh." Credul, how do you write that? How do you spell that? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. He's been trading notes with that guy. To suggest that people within that organization, people that he handpicked himself, somehow murdered him. If you're going to suggest that, you better have a lot of evidence. And I have seen none of it. It's it's unconscionable that anyone would say this without evidence. You can slander. You can say what if. You can have all sorts of innuendos and insinuations. That's not evidence. You can have dreams. You can have hunches. You can have vibes. That is not evidence. >> Yeah. No court. >> Thank you so much. >> No court would say that's evidence. I'm sorry, Blake. It's very interesting that he's saying that you could have this, you can have that, you can have that. Well, then what's the problem? Why are you yelling? You good, bro? You okay? I thought everybody could have I thought if people can have hunches and they could have vibes and they can insinuate things and have in innuendo, what's the problem? I guess everything's okay, right? That's weird. But you're yelling these things, but that's not evidence. Okay. So, so what are you suggesting? Everybody who has these thoughts, has these vibes, has these hunches, they all have to be completely silent. Is that what you're saying? You're allowed to have them, but you can't have them openly. Is that what you're saying? Listen, Candace, it's going to be I hope I hope I hope Candace does accept and I hope she brings her agame as she usually does. I really I really really do. The attacks continued. Uh, Pastor Mark, what is this? Driscoll. Is it Driscoll? Some of you guys email me about pronunciation of things. You're new here. I don't care. Hey, that's me. Anyway, let's get into it. Let's see what he had to say. When you're crazy and you point at someone and say they murdered, you know, this person that you love, other crazy people believe that and they act upon that and now you're taking say >> everybody's crazy. I just I just need to break down what he's saying. Everybody's crazy. So, she's crazy and anybody who listens to her is also crazy. Okay. Okay. Interesting. safety away from a family that is innocent while you sit home behind a microphone cashing checks for disobeying one of the Ten Commandments and being a liar. >> You're a liar. You've disobeyed God and you're coming at a family even though nobody's come at the Kirk family. Uh you know, some people have. I I I definitely haven't. I have not seen Candace do that whatsoever. Um but that's what he's saying. You're going at a family. You're a liar. you're going against God and you're crazy. Interesting. We're 26 seconds in >> and saying I'm a Christian and it's like stand before Jesus and give an account for all of that. >> There has to be spiritual behind this for her. >> This this is this is evil. And if it is true, even the way it is being handled is evil. >> Yeah. >> So if if it's wrong, it's evil. If it's right, the way it's being handled is evil. Yeah. >> So either way, it's evil. >> So either way, it's evil. That's very It's interesting that he would even say that, you know, that's why you got to really And I I I know I know the I know it's hard. You're in a room by yourself, but you really have to kind of think about what you're saying here. You know, you're just like, if it's true, it's evil. Even Even if it's true, the way she's handling it is evil. Really? Are you sure? This is You see what I mean? Like it's very So if it's all true, if everything that Blake said that you've heard, Candace, if all of that is actually true, then her doing a podcast and questioning all of it and trying to get to the bottom of it for her friend and for herself, her own closure is evil. That doesn't really check out. I don't even have to look if it's bibl. That doesn't check out as people biblically. Nothing. I mean, listen. I mean, you read you read the big book. The big book says that you're not supposed to just like sit next to evil. You're supposed to actually Yeah. Read it. Read it. It's doesn't play around a lot of times. Uh, somebody said, "I personally believe Candace Owens should accept the invite. Go on the Charlie Kirk show. I think the world has been hoping for this to happen." Actually, uh, whatever side you gravitate towards, civil discord is what Charlie's mission was all about. let the truth come out. And there's another person as well who feels the exact same way. They're saying, "Get this Grock thing off my screen, man." Elon is trying to push Grock hard. They're saying, "I hope Candace accepts the invite to the live stream. We all have questions. We all want answers." That's actually very true as well. And but this person had something different to say. They said they better jump off this live in person stuff. Nah, Candace didn't go to the memorial because she doesn't trust the feds. And Charlie Kirk's security detail from 910, they're still gainfully employed by Turning Point. Candace should not go anywhere near that business. But a live stream where she's calling in LFG Max. Go Max is exactly what he uh he's saying there. And then we'll get into this in a second. This is somebody from Turning Point who actually says something pretty wild. They actually worked for Turning Point for four years. But just to address that, you know, should she accept, should she not accept? I think both sides make a lot of sense. It's like, yeah, you may not want to be around those guys cuz at the very least they're incompetent. And when it comes to his security, at the very least, they they they dropped the ball that one time and it was a pretty big ball. and it was a pretty big one time, but they did. So maybe you don't want to be around those guys. Also, they kind of have a I wouldn't say a hate, but they don't like her. And I don't I don't know if she would want to be there. Obviously, she'd bring her own security. She would have to she would have to bring a lot of security in my opinion. Um, so she could go in person. It could make sense for her to just call in, but I think she should be there in person. I think um honestly I think she would be intimidating in person and she could also insert herself. You wouldn't have the whole you know when people are doing something live someone talks and then someone else starts talking and then there's a delay and then it stops and it gets a little choppy. I wouldn't want to see that. I would like to see Candace in front of them questioning them all one by one on every single thing that we've all seen and made videos about. uh so many times now. That's what I would like to see, right? And I honestly have no clue how they're going to address the Egyptian planes. How How do you address that? They didn't even know. And if they did, well, that's a red flag. They didn't even know. They have no idea. They haven't looked into the story, obviously, because they're shoeing it away. It's a pretty weird instance for this plane and how many times it's been around Erica and then been around Charlie. It's actually very and then it it cut it leaves the second 17 minutes after what happened to Charlie happens. It's in the area. It's very close. Like it's all very odd. Okay. And then the license plates, the cars, the people staying at Laquenta, all of it is very weird. How do you even address that as Blake and Andrew? They don't know any of that. Also, I would love to see Andrew address what he said to Candace about Tucker and there being a credible threat and there's a list and you should guys should lay low and be quiet. I would love to see him address that. That's something that you have to ask in person and uh see where it all goes. I I would love to see it. But let's jump over here. This episode's going a little long, guys. My apologies. Let's just play this one clip and let's get out of here. >> I'm just going to say what I have to say and if it lands in the right hands, whatever. My name is Amanda. Amanda My I've tried to record this like I've tried to record this like seven times and it's just not working. >> She's AI. That's it. She's AI. She's AI. She's not real. That's it. That's it. No. You glitch out like that that many times in front of me right now, you're AI. You're not a real person. That's it. Why am I even showing this to you guys? All right, let's hear it. >> So, I'm just going to say what I have to say, and if it lands in the right hands, whatever. My name is Amanda. I worked for Turning Point USA and Charlie Kirk for four years. One of those years, I was a donor relations officer in Phoenix, Arizona. And what that means is I worked with all the donors within a certain region for all of Turning Point's assets. So Turning Point Action, Turning Point Academy, Turning Point USA, Faith, Blexit Podcasting, everything. When I saw Candace Owens comment this morning, granted I am not a Candace Owens fan personally and that comment I felt like I had to say something. What I did for Turning Point USA within that department was some of the most I I can't even begin to describe it because the people that I felt like I was working for were not they were dis they were horrible. I mean like it was just some of the worst times ever and I was working for such an amazing brilliant idea of an organization and to see it for what it really was behind the scenes and how what makes it turning point which is money. I mean, I'm sorry, but it is um that's how it works in the nonprofit world. It took me so much towards the end not to tell donors to take their money elsewhere. That is the first time I've said that out loud. And I'm so proud of myself for being able to come out of that organization and be who I am today. Um, and I hope that all of my amazing, brilliant friends that I know that are still there are able to find their moment to move on. Gosh, the people that are behind it all are dis like the worst of the worst. Um, I don't take things personally. This is not a personal vendetta. I just know there are serious backings to whatever her claim is. I've seen it. I know the disgust and the terrible things that go on. So anyway, just leaving this here for people to find. And >> bro, tell us. What? Are you nuts? You just make a video like that. You got to tell us the exact thing. I mean, she wanted to say disgusting a bunch of times. She said the worst of the worst. Horrible. Some of the most horrible times. The comment she's uh talking about is actually Candace's comment here because she said when she saw it in the morning, Candace uh released this at 7:30 in the morning and that's when she said, "I received information. You know, Charlie Kirk was betrayed by leadership, etc., etc." So, that's what she was talking about. It's very interesting as uh people start popping up, but you know, this is more about the live stream with Candace. Who knows how that's going to end up going, but hopefully it happens. Hopefully these guys don't pull the old Ben Shapiro where Ben Shapiro was like, "I'll debate Candace." And then he went to his lawyers and was like, "Put a gag word on that woman." I hope they don't do that, but we'll have to wait and see. Uh, this is all developing and Candace is uh Candace is about to go live. In fact, let me end off with Can I go to Instagram here? For some reason, Instagram blocks me out of some things. Where's Candace? Where's Candace? There she is. Let's hear what she has to say about this whole thing because she actually commented a little bit before she went live. She's not live yet. >> Today, my friends, because Turning Point has at long last responded and they're dropping the gauntlet, they are saying they are willing to do a live streamed event with me asking questions about what happened on 910. Now, that seems incredible to me. We'll see if it actually takes place, but I'm taking them up on this offer for sure. So, I'm going to show you what they said, uh, tell you what you can expect, and also another fun update. I think the rapper of the game is dropping a song called The Assassination of Candace Owens. I'm doing great this year, guys. I'm doing great. Join us in the link below. >> Wow. Okay. Well, we will see how all this goes. But, uh, if you're like me, you are waiting on Candace to go live. Uh, I will see you guys over there. Try and uh try and find my message. Oh, she's on. She's on. Let's go. Got to get out of here.
