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Candace Owens has officially weighed in — and her reaction says everything. Turning Point USA has sent a cease and desist letter to Wolves and Finance, a small YouTube creator who has been following their financials, filings, and internal inconsistencies. Instead of answering questions, Turning Point chose legal pressure — and Candace Owens didn’t hold back. In this episode, we break down: • Why Turning Point targeted Wolves and Finance • What the cease and desist letter actual
Candace Owens has officially weighed in — and her reaction says everything.
Turning Point USA has sent a cease and desist letter to Wolves and Finance, a small YouTube creator who has been following their financials, filings, and internal inconsistencies. Instead of answering questions, Turning Point chose legal pressure — and Candace Owens didn’t hold back.
In this episode, we break down:
• Why Turning Point targeted Wolves and Finance
• What the cease and desist letter actually says
• Why Candace Owens called it a terrible idea
• How following the money changes everything
• Why this move makes Turning Point look worse, not better
This isn’t about opinions — it’s about accountability.
And once legal threats start flying, people notice.
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Video Transcript
There it is.
Let's get into it. Happy Monday,
everybody. I can't wait to hear Candace
weigh in on this. She already has, and
I'm going to be showing you that. A lot
of you don't have X, so you don't know
that Candace Owens has weighed in on
what happened with Wolves in Finance.
Recently, he received a cease and desist
letter from Turning Point for various
things that he said in his videos when
he was following the money of everything
and looking into their financials and
tax and even showing up to a building to
see if the actual business existed.
So, I was like, "Okay, I I want to check
this out. It's very interesting. Uh what
Candace has to say is very true. I'll be
showing you that in a second. But for
those of you that don't know about
what's going on, I want to give you a
rundown. I have like four or five clips
of Wolves and Finance talking about this
whole thing and he's setting the record
straight in certain places and in other
places he is standing 10 toes down on
his opinion because he says he should
not have to change his opinion. He is
allowed to have his opinion. I myself
think this is a terrible move by Turning
Point. Uh, I don't understand why
they're doing this type of thing. Uh, it
looks ridiculous and it's one of the
many things that I've talked about that
Turning Point does and you're like, what
is going on? Like, who is the person
who's okaying all of this? It just
doesn't make sense in my opinion.
Anyway, let's jump into more important
things. Of course, whoever did this,
shout out to you. You have blessed me
with quite the body. Okay, thank you so
much for this. And you guys don't even
know this looks exactly like my brother.
I have a brother. He looks exa from the
body to the face to the hat even. Looks
just like my brother. Shout out to you.
Thank you so much. Keep those mint memes
coming. But let's jump into Wolves and
Finance. Hear what he has to say. Point
states in the letter, "Turning point
entities are not looking for litigation.
Rather, their interest is in the truth
and making sure the public record is
accurate." So they are claiming they do
not want to sue me. But I view this
letter as a threat to sue. and I think
any reasonable business person would do
the same. A cease and desist letter is
the first step towards a defamation
lawsuit. I interpret this letter as
Turning Point telling me to shut my
mouth or they're going to sue me. I do
not understand what Erica Kirk is doing.
Out of the hundreds of people posting on
social media about Turning Point, why
are they targeting me? Why are they so
worried about what I am saying that
they're sending me legal letters? I am
he's the one he's the one following the
money. I haven't seen many people follow
the money uh so closely like he has and
he has a background in it and he can
point things out. So I think that has to
be the reason why you know he also lives
in Arizona. I don't know if that's any
connection, but you know, again, he's
he's been doing good work in regards to
looking into what they have going on.
And it seems like they've even reacted.
I mean, before this, he talked about
something about 990s.
The whole finance thing is hard for me
to track, but he was talking about some
something in regards to 990s and them
being missing, and then Turning Point
actually produced them. So, that was
early on in his like, you know, YouTube
career. So, they've been watching it for
a while, I would think.
>> One of the smallest YouTube channels in
my market segment. Who do they think I
am? I'm a working accountant with a
small YouTube channel. I have no money.
I have no power. I have no influence. I
don't know how much money they think
they're going to get from suing me. All
I have is the truth. And I'm not going
to stop speaking the truth because Erica
Kirk doesn't like it.
The one good thing about a lawsuit is
that everything will be out in the open
and Turning Point will quickly find out
that I have nothing to hide.
It's pretty amazing. So, he's, you know,
he has the truth. He's standing 10 toes
down on it. Uh, I think that's pretty
amazing. Um, and something completely
separate. I just want to say I've always
loved Turning Point. I mean, [laughter]
you guys know, right? You you know me,
right? I love Mikey McCoy. Okay.
[clears throat] I think I've put like,
you know, maybe two or three engagement
proposals out to him. He hasn't
responded. That's fine. That's cool. Um,
I'll be waiting. And, you know, I've
always loved what they do. I think, uh,
you know, the whole alibi thing that
they did, right? I think getting Gary on
their side, I think that was just
masterful. I mean, Gary from Paramount
Tactical, that's the best, right? Best
of the best. Alex Tones. I mean, all the
guys that they I mean, I think they've
just been making solid decisions this
whole way through. I have to say, I
really like the direction they're going
in. I was actually telling my wife the
other day, you know, I was like, the
same way people head out to that wall in
Philadelphia, I'd like to do that with a
turning point. You know, maybe not one
of their walls, maybe just a tent at an
event. uh and you know just be in front
of it, maybe kiss it a couple times. You
know that that's that's that's how I
feel about Turning Point. And if anybody
says anything to the contrary, I will
sue you for defamation.
Okay, I'm putting it out there. Okay,
following suit with Turning Point. Any
anybody steps out of line, [laughter]
let's jump into the next one. In the
letter, they order me to please confirm
that you will publicly correct your
false statements immediately. This is
not what I was going to talk about this
week, but Turning Point is demanding
that I communicate their statements
publicly. So, here we go. They include a
whole list of statements they claim are
false that I have made in my videos
about Turning Point. Now, I'm not
interested in spreading false
information. So, I'm glad that Turning
Point reached out to me because if I
said something wrong, I am happy to
correct it. So, let us go through the
statements where they have a problem.
And you're going to want to hear this
because some of these are wild. On
November 16th, I posted a video called
Bombshell: Did Turning Point USA commit
fraud. They say these are false claims.
Charlie Kirk ordered a Doge style audit
that was never conducted. Here is my
first problem with this letter. They do
not include the actual quote that I said
in the video. This is a paraphrase
statement of what I said. And they are
saying that the paraphrase statement is
a lie. You have to tell me exactly what
I said that was supposedly a lie. And
they do this through the whole letter.
So my request to this lawyer in future
letters because I'm assuming there's
going to be more. Please include the
actual quote that I said so that I can
respond to your accusation.
But I'm going to at least try to
interpret what they are saying. I spoke
in my video about a memo that Charlie
Kirk wrote eight days before he was
murdered. In the cease and desist
letter, they say, "Indeed, Turning Point
USA's COO announcement concerning the
Doge effort never used the word audit."
So, this is breaking news. Turning
Point's attorney has now confirmed that
the Charlie Kirk memo is authentic. We
now have legal confirmation this did
happen. It seems like their problem with
my video is that I called it a Doge
audit when in the memo it is written as
Doge effort. So they want everyone to
use the word effort and not use the word
audit. I have no problem with that. I
think that's uh rather good. So from now
on, you know, you guys want to talk
about the detonator effort, if you want
to talk about
if you want to talk about the handoff
effort, if you want to talk about, you
know what I mean? These are efforts.
Okay, guys, get it straight. Get it
straight. All right, all you nerd
dwells, how dare you? How dare you?
Efforts.
Because that's that's all Turning
Point's been doing. They've been giving
an effort, right? They've just been
efforting this whole time. And what?
They didn't mess up on the alibis or
anything like that, okay? They were just
giving efforts. say it correctly, guys.
This is ridiculous. It's very we It's
very weird that they're doing this. And
just so you know, I know he's bringing
up the internal memo. A lot of you guys
maybe think like, "Oh, like what do you
mean it's of course it's real." Uh there
was a big debate online whether or not
it was even real because it does look
odd. It just says internal memo and it
looks weird, right? Candace discussed
it. I think she was the first to discuss
it. Um, and a lot of people right away
because it's Candace, they were like,
"This thing's fake. She just made it up,
etc., etc." So now they're actually
saying that it was real.
Interesting. Interesting. So there was
an effort, a Doge effort. Here's the
thing, though. Uh, when you say Doge, we
all know what's going on, right? Like
what did Doge do? You had you had Elon
on stage with like a a a chainsaw and
he's like,
>> [laughter]
>> Like what? [laughter]
We know what was going on. We saw we saw
Listen, when he did a Doge effort, there
was billions of dollars exposed that
were going to the most wild places. So
even the fact that the word Doge is used
implies way more to this effort than
anything, right? Uh yeah. So, let's keep
going here. Uh he's just really trying
to make his case here.
This letter is seriously hurting my
head. Whatever word you use, the memo is
clearly talking about an evaluation of
Turning Point. But we cannot use the
word audit. We have to call it an effort
or they are going to sue you. The letter
goes on to say, "The announcement makes
clear that Turning Point USA was doing
what it has always pledged to donors,
ensuring it was being efficient with its
funds and time and making changes to
foster greater efficiencies. Moreover,
Turning Point USA hires a third party
audit firm to conduct an audit every
year." This is all just their opinion.
This is how they are interpreting
Charlie Kirk's memo. They think that
Charlie Kirk wrote this memo and they
think it means that they do not have to
do anything.
How convenient.
They think that Charlie Kirk wrote a
memo just to tell people to keep doing
business as usual. Well, my opinion and
the opinion of many other people was
that Charlie Kirk's memo meant something
different. This is not a statement of
fact. It is an opinion. This is another
problem I have with this letter. Most of
the statements they mention are opinions
just like this one. If you are going to
accuse me of defamatory statements, they
need to be facts, not opinions. If I
have a fact wrong, let me know and I
will happily correct it. But I that's
the interesting thing, too. They um they
will reach out to Candace about things
and be like, "Hey, this is like with
Charlie the Charlie's tent being put
up." Um because Candace was like, "Who
did that? Why would they do that?" They
reached out to her and let her know like
that was a that was a joint effort.
Okay. and that they all kind of came
together and they were like this is a
thing to do.
It's terrible thing to do but that's my
opinion.
It's not a stated fact. I mean,
[laughter]
you look at it, you look at the tent. I
mean, it's, you know, but it's uh Yeah,
it's very interesting. Very, very
interesting that they will reach out to
Candace, not reach out to this guy, go
straight at him. But if you notice,
Candace really hasn't focused on the
finances. I think she has a little bit,
but not really. She's usually focused on
the characters um that are reoccurring
in certain places. That's what she
focuses on a lot. That's what I tend to
focus on a lot too. Um,
but yeah. Yeah, it's it's it's
interesting. And again, I think it's
because this guy's following the money.
I mean, they people always say, you
know, follow the money or following the
money is the is the not just the hardest
thing to do, but the kind of the most
dangerous thing to do. Here, let's keep
going. This money did move between the
organizations. I'm allowed to have my
opinion. On November 30th, I posted a
video called Explosive More Fraud at
Turning Point USA. They say these are
false claims. There was more fraud at
TurningPoint USA. I assume they are
referring to the title of the video
here. They of course are saying that
there is no fraud at Turning Point USA.
The content of the video is me going
over the evidence of fraud and sharing
my opinion. Now, technically a true
statement would be that no one has been
convicted of fraud at Turning Point USA,
but whether fraud is going on right now
is an opinion. This is what happens in
every criminal court case. Both sides
look at the facts. One side gives their
opinion that they are innocent. The
other side gives their opinion that they
are guilty. Turning Point is looking at
the financials and claiming that they
are innocent. I understand that. I'm
looking at the same financials and
thinking they look suspicious. I did not
even say in my video that they committed
fraud. I think I'm very fair and
balanced when I say, "Now, for legal
reasons, I have to say that I do not
have any evidence of a crime. We would
need an investigation of the books at
Turning Point to know for sure. What I
am saying is that there are red flags in
the financials at Turning Point and a
lot of questions that need to be
answered. That sounds to me to be pretty
fair and balanced and it's 100% fair and
balanced. And it's interesting that
that's the part they leave out because
if they include that part into what
they're talking about, everything falls
apart. You can't you shouldn't even be
sending the letter at this point because
that guy is saying that there's no crime
at all. So now you're like, "Oh, well,
there's that." Like it's it's this is
very interesting what's going on. And
you know what point that he makes near
the end because I'm about to jump into
what Candace has to say here. Um what he
says near the end is very interesting
because he says, "I've said a lot of
things." He's talking about Turning
Point and everything that he's been
covering. He's like, "I said a lot of
things." He's like, "And these are the
only things that they have come forward
saying are false." And then he says,
"That's very telling." So, if you're a
consumer of his content, think about,
you know, these these 12 things um that
have been said or or have been stated as
being false. And then think about all
the other things that they haven't even
touched on yet. And that's the thing,
maybe they haven't touched on it yet, or
maybe they're just going to let that
stand. It's very It's very very weird.
Just like Candace has said some things
and they're like and nobody's even like
refer like even mentioned it.
>> It's very weird. Very very weird. the
thing the it's it's always the things
that they they go towards, the things
that they freak out about.
I don't know. This is what Candace had
to say about the whole thing. She said,
"Uh, difficult difficult to put into
words how terrible of an idea it was for
Turning Point to send out this cease and
desist letter. I'm [snorts] at the point
where I think someone internally
absolutely detests Erica and permanently
feeds her bad ideas. It's it's the only
thing that makes sense at this point."
again. I offer my consulting services to
Turning Point for a monthly retainer. We
can end this corporate s show.
That's so funny. That is so funny. And
she wrote that in uh as a repost of what
Tucker Carlson's brother had to say. I
don't know if you know Buckley. Buckley
is on there. He said, "Wherein Turning
Point also confirms for the very first
time that yes, there were drones, but
only media drones. Oh, only for their
media effort." Well done, Buckley. Uh,
not for Charlie's security, because that
makes so much sense. Now, what he's
saying there, oh, and also very, uh,
very important,
uh, very worth watching Zach's video
below, um, and supporting his seemingly
fair, objective database efforts to
expose the truth. Now,
that has been brought up in the video
that apparently there were media drones
allowed and that's why Frank Turk said
they were looking at drone footage and
there weren't security drones uh,
allowed.
Okay. Okay. I don't know. Did no one
see, I think outside the box, right? Did
no one go
Hey, I'm gonna send my media drone up to
go check out the roofs because we have a
Turning Point segment where we check out
rooftops. Yeah, we just do that. It's
for media. It's going to go on TikTok.
Is that cool? It is. Okay.
Is that not allowed? Am I just I'm too
much of a renegade here? you don't think
to just, you know, think outside the box
a little bit. I don't know. The whole
thing seems very weird. Like Buckley
said, that makes so much sense. And
Candace is 100% right. It does seem like
something's going on here. Terrible idea
after terrible idea. Um, if it starts
happening to more people, it just it
makes it look worse and worse as it goes
on. It makes it look terrible. I don't
know, man. It's a very odd thing to do.
And I I hope they cuz here's the thing,
they could be testing that out to see
how people react and then go after
Candace. If they just start going after
everybody who's making Turning Point
videos, it's going to look ridiculous.
It really is. It's It's going to look
nuts. So, and and I don't just mean in
public opinion to the courts. The courts
are going to be like, "What's going on
here? This is the ninth person. This is
this person is Dee got a podcast. What
are you doing?
They're going to be like, "Well, Dee Dee
should know you're not allowed to do
things like this."
Dee leaves. Baron walks in.
Baron should know. Okay. Statements are
false.
Baron leaves. Jesse walks in. [snorts]
Ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous.
Anyway, let's uh keep going. He has like
a couple more here. Let me play this
one. I'm allowed to have my opinion. On
November 30th, I posted a video called
Explosive, more fraud at TurningPoint
USA. They say these are false claims.
There was more fraud at TurningPoint
USA. I assume they are referring to the
title of the video here. They of course
are saying that there is no fraud at
TurningPoint USA. The content of the
video is me going over the evidence of
fraud and sharing my opinion. Now,
technically a true statement would be
that no one has been convicted of fraud
at Turning Point USA. But whether fraud
is going on right now is an opinion.
This is what happens in every criminal
court case. Both sides look at the
facts. One side gives their opinion that
they are in uh I already played this
part for you guys. I just wanted to go
over cuz he changes the title of one of
his videos and I just thought it was so
funny. Oh, I can't find it. there. He He
literally talks about this title that
he's referring to and he just he changed
it. It's the same title. He just put
allegedly in brackets and that made me
laugh so much. So much. I loved it. He's
like allegedly. Okay. And and I I bring
that up because I have to hire somebody
to go on onto all my videos and say
allegedly. Actually, you know what? I
have a disclaimer in my description.
Uhoh. Oh,
your boy grew up around
Philadelphiaians, my people. Okay. Your
boy grew up around some pretty smart
Philadelphia types
and they told me what to do on the back
end. You know what I mean? Anyway,
[laughter]
it's true. Uh, Crown Heights, you know,
Crown Heights is it's just black and
it's Philadelphiaian. That's that's what
it is, you know.
and and and we intermingle from time to
time, you know, they figure out they
come to us to learn how to roll blunts,
we come to them to figure out our taxes.
It's a real nice little, you know, uh
[laughter]
anyway, let's go to the next clip here.
Um I think this is him just signing off
on this whole thing. I wanted to play
this part. I think I I might go right to
the end cuz I want you guys to see how
you can help him.
>> I'm not allowed to ask questions.
>> Does turning point.
>> Of course I have it on this speed.
Ridiculous. I always have it on like two
2.5. Apologies. Let's go. Let's go back
to normal speed. See the irony in this?
Charlie Kirk died under a tent with the
slogan, prove me wrong. His whole
college campus tour was about asking
questions.
And now Turning Point is sending out
legal letters to small YouTube channels
accusing them of defamation for asking
questions.
I was asking the question why their COO
was an independent contractor. I think
that is unusual. That is my opinion.
Turning Point is now stating their
official position. America's Turning
Point lists its COO as an independent
contractor because his substantive role
for America's Turning Point is more in
line with the contractor classification.
So this is new information. Now we know
TurningPoint is intentionally doing
this. This is not a mistake. They are
intentionally classifying their COO as
an independent contractor, which means
they are not withdrawing payroll taxes
to send to the IRS.
Now, if I were their CFO, I would not do
this.
[laughter]
This guy is unintentionally funny
sometimes. Look at this. I would not do
this. [laughter]
But, um, man, it is uh I think it's sad
and ridiculous that this is happening to
him. Um, I hope he's okay right now
because mental state when you're going
through stuff like that, especially I
don't know if this guy's a father or a
husband or what, but you know, just as a
person, it could be hard going through
some stuff like that. And um, yeah, I
just I as soon as I saw this, I sent it
to Baron, I sent it to Ian, I sent it to
Jesse, I sent it to a bunch of people. I
hope they all make content on it. I know
Ian is right now. He's currently live.
he was talking about it. Um, I I hope
everybody touches on this because, you
know, you got to raise awareness about
this type of thing. I think in a few
hours we are going to see Candace go
live and uh I think she's going to talk
about this. I mean, it it wouldn't make
sense if she didn't, right? Um, and you
know, this interrupted my scheduling
because I was supposed to talk about my
back and forth with Bix Tones. That's
right. Yeah, it's getting weird. It's
getting real weird. Anyway, let's end it
off. Why turning point is attacking me
like this. I don't have a lot of money.
Lawyers are expensive and I'm going to
need a good one. So, I'm going to ask
for help. If you like my videos,
consider signing up for a membership.
That is money that I would use if this
turns into a lawsuit. If you want to
provide additional support, you can also
donate directly from the homepage of my
website on wolvesandfinance.com.
I really appreciate all my members and
I'm so thankful for your support,
especially in times like these. I'm Zach
from Wolves and Finance. Thank you for
watching.
So, that's it. That's it. That's what's
going on with him. And honestly, I sent
it to Ian. He's like, I can't wait to
hear your your analysts of this. And I
was like, me? I'm like, I don't I don't
analyze things. I'm going to bring up
some mint jokes. I'm going to make I'm
going to make some jokes. But um
honestly, at the end of the day, when I
see this, it shows that Turning Point
died with Charlie. And that's very sad
because I've said this before, everybody
wanted Turning Point to
become more like Charlie. Charlie said
in an interview once that what he wanted
to be remembered for is that he lived
out his faith courageously. And I think
everybody was hoping that Turning Point
would would do that and be courageous,
not just about faith, but just about
Charlie and what he what he stood for.
And instead, it seems like it just
turned into politics. And Charlie was
heavy politics, of course, but he was
also a lot of other things. You know, if
you watch his show, there were moments
where he would there was a lot of
segments where he would be just like
Candace and people would be like, "Whoa,
this guy's talking some stuff here,
right? He really would really would talk
that stuff a lot of times."
And he was about faith and again, he was
about politics, but but it seems like
what it's just turned into is this
political machine and he was the soul of
it. And now it seems like it's operating
soullessly. And it sucks to see because
it was what he built and
and now it just seems like it's it's
doing something else, right? I mean,
before it was this massive movement and
it still is, but now it feels more it
feels more like Congress than it feels
like a grass uh roots movement. And it
seems like we're going to see a lot of
pushing of the official narratives in
regards to everything from Turning
Point, whereas Charlie was very much
into alternate theories on things and he
would push back where push back was
needed and uh it's sad to see. So
anyways guys, just wanted to make that
video. Wolves in Finance, hope you're
doing good. Let me know if you need
anything. Message me and uh I'm out of
here. We'll see Candace soon.