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Candace Owens Uncovers New Evidence in Charlie Kirk Investigation: Police Scanner, Tarmac Hug Timeline Exposed
Candace Owens presents new evidence contradicting the official narrative surrounding Charlie Kirk's death on September 10th. Police scanner recordings confirm Erika Kirk was picked up at 3:30 PM from Provo airport, making Andrew Kolvet's alleged 4:40 PM arrival impossible for the reported tarmac embrace. Owens theorizes the hug actually occurred in Scottsdale, suggesting the core Turning Point USA team coordinated at the Arizona airport before traveling together to Provo. New flight data reveals another TPUSA-associated plane visited Fort Huachuca on October 4th, lending credibility to previous claims about suspicious activity at the military base. Meanwhile, comedian Druski's viral skit mocking conservative influencers has sparked intense reactions from Turning Point insiders, with Kolvet's aggressive response raising further questions about what really happened.
Police Scanner Evidence Contradicts Official Timeline
Police scanner recordings from September 10th have revealed crucial information about Erika Kirk's whereabouts following Charlie Kirk's death. The recording captures officers discussing plans to pick up "victim's wife" at 3:30 PM from Provo airport. This timing directly contradicts claims that Andrew Kolvet arrived on a separate plane at approximately 4:40 PM, where he allegedly embraced Erika Kirk on the tarmac in Provo.
The discrepancy in timing has led investigators to reconsider where the infamous tarmac hug actually occurred. If Erika was picked up at 3:30 PM as the police scanner indicates, she could not have been waiting on the tarmac for Kolvet's later arrival. This revelation has forced a complete reassessment of the events of that day.
The Scottsdale Theory Takes Shape
Evidence now suggests the tarmac embrace between Erika Kirk and Andrew Kolvet occurred in Scottsdale, Arizona, not Provo, Utah. This theory aligns with Kolvet's own statements about his experience that day. During a phone conversation, Kolvet described being alone on a plane, fielding anxious messages from multiple people asking about Charlie's condition, and having no one to talk to during this stressful period.
Critically, Kolvet stated he "didn't know what was going on" with Charlie during this flight. There was only a narrow window of approximately 40 minutes when this would have been true - the time between when Charlie was shot and when the core Turning Point USA team learned he had died. Flight records show a plane departed Santa Barbara for Scottsdale just five minutes after Charlie was shot at 12:30 PM Utah time.
According to the timeline, Kolvet would have learned of Charlie's death approximately 30-40 minutes into this flight, which he confirmed in a separate interview. He stated he learned Charlie had died before President Trump posted about it on Truth Social. This means Kolvet received the devastating news while airborne from Santa Barbara to Scottsdale, leaving him emotionally overwhelmed with no one to talk to - exactly as he described.
Reconstructing the Day's Events
The revised timeline suggests that after landing in Scottsdale, Kolvet encountered Erika Kirk for the first time since receiving news of Charlie's death. This would explain the emotional intensity of their embrace - Kolvet had been processing the loss alone on the plane and Erika was the first person he saw upon landing. The theory proposes that the core Turning Point USA team gathered at Scottsdale airport as a meeting point following the assassination.
This gathering would have allowed the team to coordinate their response before traveling together to Provo on Charlie's plane. The theory suggests they traveled with cell phones off, which would explain communication gaps during this period. Frank Turek's observation that Erika arrived at the hospital around 4:00 PM supports this timeline, as it would have given sufficient time for the Scottsdale meeting and subsequent flight to Utah.
The police scanner recording confirms that Sergeant Dupe and another officer were en route to pick up Erika at 3:30 PM. The group including Erika, Elizabeth McCoy, Tyler Bowyer, Stacy Sheridan, and others were then escorted to Timpanogos Hospital. Meanwhile, evidence suggests Kolvet may have waited at the airport for his wife to arrive on a later flight from Santa Barbara before joining the others at the hospital through a different entrance.
Why the Location Matters
The significance of determining where this tarmac hug occurred cannot be overstated. If Kolvet departed Santa Barbara just minutes after Charlie was shot - while positioned on the tarmac and taxiing for takeoff - it raises disturbing questions about foreknowledge. Why would Kolvet be leaving Santa Barbara at that precise moment unless there was some awareness that he would need to travel urgently?
If this were an innocent coincidence - perhaps Kolvet was simply traveling to Arizona for Turning Point business given they were launching a tour - there would be no reason to obscure or lie about these details. The fact that multiple conflicting stories have been told about these movements suggests there is something significant being hidden about the events of that day.
Inconsistencies in Erika Kirk's Statements
Erika Kirk's account of events has shifted multiple times, with various inconsistencies emerging when her statements are compared against one another and against the available evidence. In the New York Times article published shortly after Charlie's death, the reporter stated that Charlie "was pronounced dead as she was airborne," placing Erika on a plane when she learned of her husband's death. The article quoted Erika reflecting on those "surreal hours," looking at "clouds and mountains" and thinking "this is exactly what he last saw."
However, this account contradicts what Erika later told others, including claims that she learned of Charlie's death before boarding the plane. Elizabeth McCoy's Instagram post from October further muddied the waters, describing comforting "a woman on a plane who only moments before became a widow." The phrase "only moments before" suggests Erika had just learned of Charlie's death, implying she was already airborne or boarding when she received the news.
These discrepancies matter because they represent fundamental facts that should be unchanging. The question of when and where someone learned their spouse had died is not a detail that varies with retelling. The shifting accounts suggest either significant confusion or deliberate misdirection about the events of September 10th.
The New York Times Interview Revelations
The New York Times article, published when Erika Kirk granted her first interview as a widow to a publication Charlie had considered an adversary, contains multiple details that don't align with later statements. The article claimed Erika's mother was "in the hospital" on September 8th, creating an impression that Erika was dealing with a seriously ill, possibly dying parent when Charlie was killed.
However, evidence shows Erika's mother was not hospitalized. She was at an IV treatment center - the kind of wellness facility with multiple chairs where people receive various therapies. This is distinctly different from being hospitalized with a serious illness. The image of Erika dutifully attending to her ailing mother in a hospital adds emotional weight to the narrative but appears to be inaccurate.
Additionally, Erika had not posted about her mother on social media for approximately two years before suddenly sharing a video of her mother looking frail and unwell on September 8th, just two days before Charlie's assassination. The timing of this post, combined with the misleading information about hospitalization, raises questions about narrative construction and emotional manipulation of public perception.
Fort Huachuca Connection Deepens
New flight data has revealed that another aircraft associated with Turning Point USA made a significant stop at Fort Huachuca, Arizona. This discovery adds credibility to previous claims about suspicious activity at the military installation. The plane in question, tail number N5829M, spent the entire day at Fort Huachuca on October 4th, landing at 9:33 AM and not departing until 4:39 PM.
This flight is particularly notable because after leaving Fort Huachuca, the plane traveled to Kalispell, Montana. The following day, October 5th, there was a flight from Kalispell to Bozeman, Montana - the same day Charlie's security team, including individuals like Butch Hibbs, gathered in that area. The connection between Fort Huachuca, Kalispell, and the security team meeting raises questions about what coordination may have been occurring.
The aggressive response to initial questions about Fort Huachuca activity is also revealing. When the possibility was first raised that Brian Harpole had been spotted at the military base on September 9th - the day before Charlie's assassination - Turning Point USA mounted an immediate and intense campaign to discredit the source. Andrew Kolvet dismissively referred to it as "some fort," and Erika Kirk was sent out to do interviews specifically to deny the Fort Huachuca connection with her now-infamous "just stop" moment.
The Druski Video and Defensive Reactions
Comedian Druski released a viral satirical video mocking a certain type of conservative female influencer who uses religious language and imagery while engaging in what many perceive as grift. The sketch features exaggerated performances of women invoking God, Jesus, prayer, and the Bible while discussing political topics, with the comedy highlighting how this religious framing can feel inauthentic and manipulative.
The video resonated widely across the political spectrum, with people noting how certain influencers seem to use Christianity as a shield against criticism. The satire touched on the phenomenon of individuals making catty or aggressive statements but couching them in Biblical language to maintain a veneer of righteousness. Comedians like Tim Dillon and Joe Rogan had previously commented on this trend, and Druski's video crystallized these observations.
The reactions to the video from Turning Point USA insiders were notably defensive and aggressive. Ted Cruz called the video "beneath contempt," a response that seemed disproportionate to a comedy sketch. Most revealing was Andrew Kolvet's comment: "Now do conservative black women." This appeared to be a thinly veiled reference suggesting that if Druski was going to mock conservative women, he should also mock black conservative women - seemingly a reference to Candace Owens.
Why Guilty Consciences React Defensively
The intense negative reaction to comedy and satire often indicates that the subject matter has struck close to uncomfortable truths. When someone is confident in their position and behavior, being mocked or parodied typically doesn't provoke rage. Charlie Kirk himself celebrated when South Park featured him, seeing it as a sign he had become mainstream enough to warrant satirization.
The current Turning Point USA leadership's response to the Druski video stands in stark contrast. Rather than laughing it off or ignoring it, they attacked. Kolvet's specific response suggesting Druski should mock black conservative women betrayed a particular anger and defensiveness. This reaction suggests awareness that the satire had identified something real - that the religious rhetoric being deployed feels manufactured and is being used strategically rather than authentically.
The broader pattern of aggressive responses to any questioning or investigation follows the same template. Rather than calmly addressing concerns, providing clear answers, and setting the record straight, the response has been to attack questioners, send cease and desist letters, coordinate with influencers to smear critics, and mount expensive PR campaigns. This is the behavior of individuals trying to control a narrative, not the behavior of people simply telling the truth.
The Pattern of Deception
When examined comprehensively, the number of provable misstatements, timeline inconsistencies, and narrative changes becomes overwhelming. These aren't minor details or understandable confusions in the aftermath of trauma. These are fundamental facts: what time did someone arrive somewhere, who was on what plane, when did someone learn a crucial piece of information.
The problem with constructing false narratives is that they tend to be "too perfect." Real human experience is messy, emotional, sometimes contradictory in minor ways because memory is imperfect and trauma affects recall. But real human experience doesn't involve completely different versions of major events. It doesn't involve strategic Instagram posts designed to manipulate perception. It doesn't involve granting interviews to hostile press outlets immediately after a tragedy.
The behavior exhibited - from Erika Kirk's composed media appearances to the coordinated attacks on questioners to the shifting timelines - doesn't track with authentic grief and confusion. It tracks with calculated image management. And when image management becomes the priority over truth-telling, it raises the inevitable question: what is being hidden?
The Investigation Continues
Despite cease and desist letters, coordinated smear campaigns, and aggressive PR tactics, the investigation into the circumstances surrounding Charlie Kirk's death continues. New information continues to emerge from flight records, police scanners, and sources who were present for key events. Each new piece of evidence either confirms or contradicts elements of the official narrative.
The search is now on for additional witnesses who have not yet come forward, including Charlie's pilot Jamie, whose last name and contact information remain unknown. As someone who would have been intimately familiar with travel patterns, passenger manifests, and communications on September 10th, Jamie could provide crucial corroborating or contradicting information.
The accumulation of evidence, witness statements, and timeline analysis continues to point toward significant deception about the events of September 10th and the days surrounding it. The question is no longer whether the official narrative contains falsehoods - that has been established. The question is why these falsehoods were necessary and what they are concealing.
Video Transcript
All right, you guys. Happy Thursday. We've got a lot going on today. We're going to go back very briefly to Fort Wuka. That's fun. Some fort, as Andrew Kovette infamously said, couldn't have been more obvious right away. The amount of money they spent on that campaign to debunk Mitch immediately. So over the top, they were never successful at doing that. The public remains curious whether or not he saw that security meeting take place. Um, and Baron Coleman has discovered and I have confirmed that there was another plane that's associated with Turning Point USA that spent time at Fort Wuka after the assassination. So, Bish's story is becoming increasingly more feasible. But big news, exciting news. I believe we have at long last solved the mystery of the tarmac hug thanks to the police scanner on September 10th in Provo upon which the officers were discussing sending a team to pick up Erica. Look, these people are simply not going to get away with what they did to Charlie. Not if Drewuski the comedian has anything to do with it. I will be reacting to his viral skit later. Welcome back to Candace. All right, this episode is brought to you by Knickknack, a dissolvable nicotine pouch that is perfect when you need a quick no fuss moment during the day. Try it yourself by visiting nicknack.com/candice. Where to begin, you guys? Where to begin? Let's start with that police scanner, shall we? Because I made a statement yesterday that I felt confident that we could rely on Frank Turk's estimation that Erica arrived at the hospital at 4 p.m. Okay, that was one of my we don't know, but we know things, right? We have common sense. Military men keep time. he's not going to be off by an hour and a half. And I was right because a few of you guys sent us tips that actually there was a recording on the police scanner from that day wherein it is mentioned that a Sergeant Dupe uh was going to pick up Erica Kirk from Provo airport. So, let's take a listen to that. >> Confirming this channel secure. >> No, the Pro main channel is not secure. >> My apologies. I was just saying is service channel uh able to be scanned or am I can I give information over this uh channel? >> Sure you're good. We have uncut the service channel. So this is just provo service. Go ahead and talk. >> This will be info for IC. Uh myself and Sergeant Duet are uh in route to Provo airport. Uh victim's wife is arriving at 3:30. 2J436. >> 436. Go ahead. >> Was there a ATL sent out? >> Okay. And obviously we just have like, you know, AI uh telling you what it said there. When they say 4:36, they're not talking about the time. They're probably talking about the police cruiser number, whatever. But 3:30 3:30 is when that pickup is scheduled for. So, basically, we can conclusively confirm uh that Erica did not wait an hour on the tarmac for Andrew's alleged plane to land at about 4:40 p.m., right? 3:30 was the pickup. So, this only makes sense if Andrew was aboard Charlie's plane with Erica. Okay. For some reason, maybe I had and I just forgot, but for some reason, I feel as though I did not consider the most obvious answer to how this tarmac hug took place. Gratefully, you guys at home are smarter than me a lot of the times, and you can see what's right in front of me sometimes when I cannot. The tarmac hug obviously had to take place in Scottsdale. It's the only thing that makes sense. Of course, it did. It did not happen in Provo at all. It happened in Scottsdale. And I feel tremendously confident about that now because of what Andrew said to me on the phone. He said he was alone on the plane. Uh but he also said how he had acquired all of this anxiety. He said everyone was messaging him asking what was going on and he had no one to talk to. And this is the most crucial part. He told me that he didn't know what was going on. So, he's fielding all of these questions from people, myself among those people, by the way, regarding Charlie. And he didn't know what was going on with Charlie. He didn't know the answer. Well, there was only one hour, not even one hour, when he didn't know what was going on with Charlie. Okay. Before they were all made aware, and I mean like the core team, the infrastructure at Turning Point that Charlie had died. We got about really about about a 40 minute window where he did not know what was going on, where he couldn't answer questions. The only time frame uh that he didn't know what was going on with Charlie was in that immediate aftermath of Charlie being shot, which is the exact time that the Santa Barbara flight takes off and heads for Scottsdale. Andrew Co was aboard this flight. I feel very confident stating that. If he comes out and says he wasn't, I'll adjust, right? But looking at all the facts, uh, let's think about it. The flight takes off five minutes after Charlie is shot. Okay, I I feel we can bet that Andrew was on it because he is messaging a bunch of people. Like I said, I was one of the people that he was messaging. I messaged him at 12:40 Mountain time, so a little under 20 minutes after Charlie got shot, and I said, "Please say he's okay." And Andrew Kovette replied and said, "I don't know." Shot for sure. And then at 1:19 p.m. Utah time, Andrew said to me, "He has a pulse, but I know nothing else." So, he doesn't know anything else at this time. This is the only plane that Andrew Andrew could have been on, whereupon he did not know. Okay, we have to stress that this is the only plane, the plane from Santa Barbara to Scottsdale is the only plane that fits the description that of Andrew not knowing what is going on with Charlie. Now, Erica claims that he was on the flight that landed at 4:30 p.m. into Provo. She's lying. Erica's always lying, okay? And she's definitely lying about that because Andrew would have known that late Charlie was dead. He would have known what was going on. That that could not have been the flight that Andrew Kovette was on because the entire world at that moment knew what was going on with Charlie Kirk. They knew that Charlie Kirk had passed away. Uh and Andrew actually himself confirmed how soon he found out. He put it at about between 30 and 40 minutes after Charlie had been shot, which is about the time frame that Erica is going to learn that Charlie did not make it. Uh was around the time that he learned that Charlie had died. Take a listen. >> How long did it take before you knew he had died? >> I um there was a I don't know I want to say probably 30 or 40 minutes. >> Okay. >> So there was a a report. There was a report. Yeah, it was before I knew before Trump put the truth social out >> between 30 and 40 minutes. Okay. 34 minutes after Charlie gets shot, he knew that Charlie did not make it. So, the story goes that Andrew took off right after Charlie got shot from Santa Barbara. He received the news uh while he was in the air that he did not make it, that Charlie died. He therefore, being on this plane by himself, had a lot of pent up emotion just like he told me. and no one to speak to aboard the flight. Some heavy news to take and to accept and to digest while you're aboard the flight. And then he touches down in Scottdale and Erica is the first person that he sees when the plane doors open and he releases all of that pent up energy. People fielding, asking questions, is he okay? And then finally learning that Charlie Kirk is dead in a hug with Erica. This is why Erica cannot answer whether or not his wife was on the plane because this hug took place uh in Scottdale and Erica's wife was not I mean uh Andrew's wife was not present for that. So I am surmising that the TPUSA core crew all gathered at Scottsdale airport. Okay, they all met. That was a meeting point at Scottsdale airport before after Charlie Kirk got shot. Let me tell you why this deeply matters. Why I was not letting this go. Okay? Why I'm like a dog with a bone on this detail. Actually, I'll allow Baron Coleman to tell you why it matters. Why does this matter? Great question. Here's why it matters. Because if Andrew left Santa Barbara before Charlie got shot, then there was a plot to kill him. That's why it matters. If Andrew left Santa Barbara before Charlie got shot, there was a plot to kill Charlie Kirk and Andrew knew about it. That's why it matters. In my opinion, it is evidence that that might have been the case and that they've been lying to us the entire time. That's why it matters. >> Precisely, Baron. It matters because it suggests it does not conclude, okay, but it suggests certainly that there may have been some sort of a foreign knowledge because for what other reason would Andrew be sitting on a tarmac just about to fly to Scottsdale when Charlie gets shot? For what other reason would he be taxiing on a runway because that's what he had to been. I think it takes off 5 minutes after Charlie shot. You have to be taxiing right when Charlie gets shot. Now, if I was playing devil's advocate and it's good to play that, but you should remember that you are therefore advocating for the devil. I would say, well, turning points in Arizona, maybe uh, you know, he did the first hour of his show live uh, and maybe he had a meeting or something. You know, his PR team's there, a lot going on. It's the beginning of the tour. Maybe he was just actually traveling to Scottsdale. But if that was the case, they wouldn't be hiding it. This would not be something to hide or to lie about, right? You would just be like, "Oh, yeah. Yeah, I hug I hugged Eric on the tarmac when I got to Scottsdale. It's crazy. Like I crazy coincidence. I was like flying to Scottsdale and uh Charlie got shot. You come right out with that." So yeah, I am suggesting that they all met up at Scottsdale airport. My very strong opinion is that is what transpired on that day based on the evidence that is sitting before us because I will tell you what did not happen. Andrew Andrew did not sit in Santa Barbara for three and a half hours twiddling his thumbs before then finding a plane that could get him to Provo. It's pretty easy to get a private jet. That's a nonsense narrative. A nonsense narrative. Erica similarly did not wait until 4:30 for him to arrive uh at the tarmac and then hug him on the tarmac to greet him in Provo and then head to the hospital with him. We now know that officially did not happen. The timeline does not work because of what Andrew told me happened and what the police scanner is saying about when Erica was picked up. So what is much more likely is that they met at the Scottsdale airport. All of them they communicated in person perhaps in the unmarked building and then they all traveled together to Provo aboard Charlie's plane. Cell phones off. That's my theory. And I'm gonna put out another uh APB here regarding who Charlie's pilot was. Okay. I know that his first name is Jamie, but that's all I know. I think he might be from Texas, and I would like to know more about Jamie. I would like to reach out to Jamie. Does anybody know more information about who Jaime the Pilot is because I think this would be crucial information, a crucial person for me to learn more about and for me to be able to reach out to. I think that's a that's an unidentified character here. Uh, so please email us at more tips@candace owens.com if you know who the pilot Jamie is. I will leave no stone left unturned. Will he talk to me? Probably not, but I'm going to try. This means that we now need to go back and revisit that minuteby minute timeline that I created way back when. Uh, because it just shows you how implausible it is. Uh, how they are lying to us. This is massive. Turning Point USA is lying. They are lying about what transpired on that day. Okay. Our minute-by-minute timeline uh from, you know, leading up to when the shot is uh fired. And we if you kind of just kind of get down, we can kind of go these are like Mikey's immediate phone calls. We can go to the next page here. Um and I this is what I believe happened. I'm putting this out as my theory that Andrew departed from Santa Barbara headed for Scottsdale um at approximately 103 according to his memory. He learned that Charlie Kirk did not make it. That would track with Erica at the airport. Elizabeth's story. Uh Erica told me obviously that she found out before they just before they got onto the plane or before they got on the plane. I don't know if she said just before. Um, but she knew before she got on that plane. And we can see Andrew is then going to land into Scottsdale. I mean, yep. And have that tarmac hug with Erica. And then there's this mysterious flight that I know nothing about. Uh, but I think it's relevant. We saw it today that departs from Paige, Arizona for Provo because I remember that Paige, Arizona. Uh, that was that also that N88 flight. Uh, that was very strange. There was it was also going back and forth from Paige. So I just wonder what was what was going on in Paige, Arizona on that day. Then we know that Marina Mess is going to ask Aubrey to draft the death death statement. She says that Andrew was on a plane. I think actually they he had his phone off. I think they had their phones off. Uh Justin Strife is going to send the email that was drafted by Aubrey announcing Charlie's death to the entire Turning Point USA staff staff at 227. 231 Charlie's plane I believe with all of them on it departs from Scottsdale and heads for Utah. Uh at 240 President Trump announces that Charlie has died via a truth social post. And then that flight that I is unidentified lands into Provo from Paige at 248. Then we have from the police cruiser I mean um from the police scanner that Erica Elizabeth and Tyler and Stacy Sheridan and co are going to be escorted to Tempanos hospital. And what I will say is I don't believe Andrew went with them. I think Andrew waited for an hour on the tarmac for his wife. And I believe that that 436 plane as my memory serves is that he said, "Yeah, of course. I want you to come to his wife because that's just what I remember him saying." And I immediately thought his wife scrambled and went to Provo a bit later. I believe she then lands on that 436 plane from Santa Barbara. And then Andrew and her go to the hospital and go through a different entrance, the front entrance, and not the one that Erica um and Elizabeth McCoy and Stacy Sheridan and Katherine Locastro and Tyler Ber went through. This is this is my thesis that I feel I have worked on with evidence and facts and putting things together attempting to communicate obviously turning point USA but that has been sort of a dead end since they sent me the cease and desist. Um yeah I think this is correct and it's problematic. At the very least, we can conclude that Erica and Andrew did not hug in Provo, which only leaves us with Scottsdale. Now, it is incredible, by the way, to go back and to realize how many times Erica Kirk has lied. Just little lies that she told and that we keep catching. in my producer today caught that infamous New York Times article that she did interview that she did immediately following Charlie's assassination where she welcomed them the enemy of Charlie Kirk into their condo and granted them the first interview of the of the agrieved widow or there's tons of little mistakes that don't feel like mistakes to me. I do not believe for all their faults that the New York Times sat down and lied about what the widow told them. You would have to believe that to think that they that the New York Times made mistakes and Erica didn't give them wrong answers, right? Little things like when they say Erica was in the hospital with her mom. That's a lie. Erica's mother was not in the hospital on September 10th. Erica's mother was at an optin uh in general the treatment she that that's being referred to Erica's mother goes to an optin treatment center. You know, the likes of which you see at IV places, tons of chairs around. The idea was to sort of double inflict the public with this concept of the widow who was just doing the right thing at the right time and was already in a hospital and then with her mother who was dying. You're supposed to think her mother was dying. That was the purpose I believe of her posting on September 8th. She hadn't posted her mother in years. In years. And suddenly she posts a video of her mother looking frail and sick. That is intentional. Okay. I'm tired of pretending that Erica is was not using her Instagram to manipulate us. Okay. You don't go from my mom doesn't want to be posted on Instagram. I don't post my mom on Instagram for two years to I'm now going to post her in a frail uh condition two days before Charlie gets assassinated. That feels manipulative to me. Just like it feels manipulative that we were taken into Charlie's casket. Okay. Um, she posts that and the New York Times says she's in the hospital. So, everyone runs with that. That's not true. Eric's mother was not in the hospital on September 8th. She was not in the hospital on September 9th and she was not in the hospital on September 10th. I can debunk that formally, but they let that go for a reason. Well, then another little little lie that Erica tells is that um the at least the reporter reports that Erica found out that Charlie was dead while she was airborne. This is a direct quote from the article. Now, mind you, if a journalist in New York Times would have had a reporter there, obviously, what if a journalist gets something wrong? You can just contact them and say, "Uh, you recorded this wrong." This has never This article has never been corrected. Okay. It says, "Mr. Kirk's chartered plane traveled back to Scottsdale to ferry his wife to Provo. He was pronounced dead as she was airborne. I'm looking at the clouds and the mountains," Miss Kirk recalled at those surreal hours. It was such a gorgeous day. And I was thinking this is exactly what he last saw. Do you think that the New York Times reporter made that up? He was pronounced dead while she was airborne. Do you think that No. It's a crucial It is the most crucial detail. You're a journalist. You go in, you're going, I have the biggest story since 1963. I'm sitting down with the Jackie Kennedy of 2025, right? I have the biggest story and I'm going to mess up this detail. When you ask where were you? That's like the first question you ask. Where were you when you got the news that your husband was dead? You think the the journalist messed up? I say no. I say I say a journalist was told that Erica was on a plane. Could you go back, Dom, and pull me back up the minutebyminute timeline so we can see what time that would mean she found out? Right. 2:31 p.m. Utah time. just uh nine minutes before President Trump. No, that's not true. It's just false. It's not even what Erica told me to my face. It's not even what Erica told me to my face, she said, which more closely mirrors what Elizabeth McCoy said that she found out. Elizabeth McCoy said right when she got to the airport. This is like an hour and a half difference. Okay, this is crazy. You can't just make stuff up. And Elizabeth McCoy similarly reflected the New York Times version of events and made it sound like implied Erica was either airborne or I would say it just implies that she's airborne when she got the news because Elizabeth Koy posted this on her in on her Instagram back in October. She wrote this. No one teaches you how to comfort a a woman on a plane who only moments moments before became a widow on her way to face the reality of her husband's assassination. moments before. Now you're comforting her. It sounds like Erica's on a plane. So that was the story until the story changed and and now it's oh um Erica knew before she got on the plane. The plane came later. Ladies and gentlemen, there are just too many inconsistencies in the story. There too many. It is like it is a nonsense for people to ignore the cascade of inconsistencies in the days leading up to the assassination in the immediate commentary that Erica gave to the New York Times reporter. Everybody grieavves differently. Oh, I got I mistake I I I I was wrong on that. Oh, I I can't really recall what he did the night before. There was other little details that she um brings up in the New York Times that seems slightly adjusted like the night before later on when she's with you Jesse Waters. The big thing is Gigi. New York Times article there's like not really a mention of there's not mention of Gigi at all in the night before where Charlie's snacking and waking people up the night before. She also slightly adjusts in the New York Times article um when she says that she heard him like close the door when he left. But then later on we're going to hear that she saw him grab his necklace and put it around his like Okay. So, did you see him or did you just hear him close the door? You have to go back to the beginning when you do an investigation because so much transpires and you have so much more information. We're 6 months removed and we have so much more information at our fingertips and it's time that we go back to the beginning and we recognize that this isn't right. This is not right. And guess what? Andrew Kovat is going growing increasingly angry, which I think is another sign that we are getting very close. He was really angry. You could tell about Duski, a comedian who dropped a video about Erica Kirk and has gone absolutely viral. I'm going to show you that video when we get back. All right, you guys. 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Well, she just um took a page out of Jackie Kennedy's book when Jackie Kennedy didn't take off her her blood soaked outfit and she said she wanted people to see what they done did to her husband. That's exactly verbatim what Erica said that she said when she got to the hospital, right? I want to see what they did to my husband. It's like they planned for everything to be so profound, right? So profound. And guess what? That's not how human beings operate. You're a mess, right? We're just we're we're we're sloppy. We're messy. Um you're angry. They forgot to account for real human emotions when they planned what feels like an an AI response. They forgot that they shouldn't be like joyful at a memorial geoencing people. Maybe not now, right? Hey, maybe not doing the Zoom call couple days after. Maybe maybe not New York Time. I don't think a widow would do that. People recognize all across the world that something's not right with Erica Kirk. And your your best guess if you if you were I mean just trying to extend the most rope to her, you would say maybe she didn't love him. Maybe she just didn't love him. She didn't even like the guy. They're fighting in the end and that's why she's just like, "Okay, whatever. I don't care. we were we were on the rocks or something like that. Uh but even if you were a friend of his, you'd be reacting differently. Everything's wrong. And that is why comedians have picked it up. Comedians like Tim Dylan, comedians like Joe Rogan and like Duski who has dropped an absolute viral video kind of mocking more broadly uh conservative women. Uh and sort of look I I kind of picked up on it this year too, so I'm going to back him up here. But this sort of Christian grift, but it's it doesn't really feel like Christianity that we're looking at. Anyway, let me not do him. It would be a total lack of justice for me to try to explain to you the video. I'm sure you've seen it. It's been everywhere. Here is Drew Duski uh mocking conservative women, namely Erica Kirk. >> Get on your feet. war is raging in Iran. >> We're praying. We're praying for all the soldiers and troops. >> That's great that you're praying, but I had all the kids that died when the USA hit the the town. >> It broke my heart. That is the Oh, >> in what ways have you grown closer to Jesus? >> I serve a righteous God. And that is why we say our prayers. >> We are all his children. But when I say children, I mean like the holy blessed trinity, which is why I hold the Bible. >> We have to protect all men in America, especially all white men in America. >> So good. Those are the boys that we care about in this country. America is built on their backs. >> Yes. Cuz they are the ones who mattered most. >> Okay. That black guy like didn't say a single word and so just takes away the entire scene. Just perfect faces that he's making behind him. This is how everybody's feeling. Everybody for the first time. It's not left or right. It's like everyone's united and feeling this. It feels fake. It feels wrong. It's Tim Dylan called it out early. It feels like they just want our money and they're just going to keep saying the Lord and God and God and the Lord. So, we can't question things because it would just be oh my god. It would be demonic as they always say, demonic. It's evil. How dare you question a grieving widow? Like they were are trying to use this idea of Christianity as a shield. And I was hinting on that again, removing uh Erica Kirk from the scenario. It was I was noticing all of these women that make videos. They're just catty. They're just influencers, but they try to find a Bible verse. It's like I'm not actually catty. I'm This is a Bible verse and I can tell you why I don't I'm not It's not that I dislike this person. I'm just objectively telling you why you should dislike this person, but I'm using a Bible verse. Stop doing that. Just stop doing that. It's inauthentic. And people are seeing this for what it is. And I'm glad that this has gone absolutely viral. Uh, and some of the responses have been amazing. First and foremost, Grock, who apparently didn't wear his glasses today, and he accidentally, someone said, "Grock, who is this?" And Grock replied and said, "That's Erica Kirk." Oh, the actress and comedian starring a juicy satirical skit. So, he thinks Erikica Kirk starred in the skit, which is hilarious. So, very, very funny. Um, and then you can of course expect all of the Israel firsters who have been defending her, which has been very weird immediately that the Israel Firsters are defending her. Another clue, another data point, they were going to be upset. Ted Cruz tweeted that this was beneath contempt. Whenever you are describing a comedian as beneath contempt, you're probably losing. Yeah, it's funny. It's objectively funny. And I have always had this stance, by the way. And but the pettiest person who came in, person who was most upset by this is Andrew Kovette. Look what Andrew Kovette commented. Now do conservative black women. Guys, I think he's referring to me. I think he's referring to me. I don't know, but I feel like he is referring to me. Drew, you have my permission. If you want to do a skit about me, that works. Andrew, why are you so mad? Why are you so mad? Now do you consider black women? What are you talking about? I've been made fun of by the left since I started my career. Like are you I've been on Saturday Night Live. They made fun of me. I Dave Chappelle did a skit about me. My response was this is funny. It's It's cool. It's legendary that Dave Chappelle knows my name. You want to know why you're mad? Because you're guilty. Your conscience is bothering you. You're angry that you have so much money. You guys have so much money, so much influence, so much power. power to the White House. You can get Scott Besson to issue a letter and say Turning Point is in great financial standing. Imagine having that much power but actually no influence that many resources but that spend it on these influencer. Everyone can see it's inorganic because we're all feeling the same about Erica Kirk. He's big mad because he's getting exposed and the walls are closing in. I that's that's my opinion and one area of interest by the way which I want you guys to pay attention to because I think this could be something and I'll briefly run you through it but obviously Fort Wuka like I said at the top it was very obvious that this was a trigger Andrew was feeding information to like obscure podcasters trying to get them to attack us over Fort Wuka as opposed to them being like interested again they keep forgetting how they're supposed to act like you should reach out to me and be like hey saw your podcast Candace said they think They saw Brian Harpole. That's crazy. Can you just like connect me so I can see if he was there? No, they're like attack her. They're all crazy. Some fort, said Andrew. What fort? Some fort. Erica wasn't at some fort. What was Mitch's story? Uh the the substance of it was that he saw Brian Harpole at Fort Wuka. He felt he he was almost certainly saw Brian Harpole and a a meeting that was concluding on September 9th, the day before Charlie was assassinated early in the morning. Erica then uh uh denied that story uh pretty aggressively. I would say that was one that's what began the tour that led to the infamous stop just stop moment. It's like they sent her out there to say everyone just stop when we mentioned Fort Wuga. Well, Baron Coleman has a source who I have since confirmed to alert him alerted him to the fact that there was another plane that is associated with Turning Point USA that is familiar with Fort Wuka. And the kind of the the notes here are that on September 10th that when Charlie was assassinated, this plane flew in uh the evening after Charlie's assassination. So they flew in in the evening from Chicago and then after Charlie's assassination on October 4th that plane was in Fort Wuka all day before it headed up to Callispel, Montana, which was a a stop, a familiar stop for the planes that were going from Texas that day. Very strange that Callisbell, Montana, Arizona, uh there just seemed to be a pattern in where these planes were going. And so Baron is is starting to press the brakes on wanting to figure out whose plane this is. And I always want to share information because, you know, somebody out there might know something. And so here is Baron Coleman just uh explaining exactly what it is that he discovered very quickly. This was a plane I was told from a TPSA insider is frequently used by TPUSA. I was going through their stuff and I just wanted to look around the September 10th time frame because September 10th, this is the flight that I'm pretty sure had someone related to the Charlie Kirk takeown. This is September 10th, Chicago to Provo. It had previously been in Pierre. My guess is that Pierre to Chicago flight was a repositioning flight. It left Pierre, South Dakota at 2:40 p.m. It landed in Chicago at 4:06 p.m. Less than an hour later, it it left for Provo. Presumably, I presume with Charlie Kirk's parents, but I I can't state that with any degree of certainty, but I think so. I think so. Regardless, it was a TPUSA leg of this flight. And so I start looking through here and I start seeing stops that are pretty consistently TP USA. And then I get to this weird flight here. This is Fort Wuka. Atlanta to Fort Wuka. It lands at 9:33 a.m. and it's there all day. It does not leave until 4:39 p.m. Why is a plane frequently, I don't want to say exclusively used by TPUSA, but I want to say frequently used by TPUSA. Why is a plane used by TPUSA going to Fort Wuka? The plane we were looking at went to Fort Wuka. The new plane went to Fort Wuka on October 4th and then went to Callispel. I am in the process of trying to figure out what the hell's going on in Callispel. But the reason Callispel draws my attention is it's in Montana. Callispel is in Montana. It was in Montana after going to Fort Wuka on October 4th. It was the following day, October 5th, when the security team, including Butch Hibs, for some reason, random preachers brother is also there with them. I have I cannot put out of my head that there's a connection here. I just cannot get out of my head that there's a connection. There was a flight from Callisbell to Bosezeman. Boseman is where the guys met up to go to Ferry Lake the following day. So if you believe as I do that TPUSA people were on that flight that went to Fort Wuka and then went to Callispel, there was a flight, a private plane flight that went from Callispel to Bosezeman the next day. That's the day when everybody showed up and they had their security team retreat or something. I don't know what it was. Debrief. I don't know what they were doing there. >> So, I do want to issue just one correction to what he said. Definitively, Charlie's parents were not on that plane because uh JD Vance sent the Air Force to to pick up Charlie's parents. And so, Charlie's parents were definitively picked up uh by the vice president's uh plane on that day and then taken over. So, uh was somebody else coming from Chicago that day? Were they sent the plane? It does seem to be that this plane is could be it's I shouldn't say definitively, but it's plausible that this plane is attached to their security apparatus. And so that's interesting. I show that only because in case you know any information about that tail number uh what was that? Could you uh just so I can say that again. Was the tail number N28 9mm? I got to just see that again. Um then you should definitely email Baron Coleman. You can also email us at more tips@canace.com. If you freeze it, I can see that. If you just want to bring up that screen and not play it, I think it he shows it right away. Um, I just want to make sure I get that tail number right or have one of you guys tell me what that tail number is. I don't I didn't write this down for some reason. Cool. Okay. I was really wrong. N582M is that tail number. Okay. Um, anyways, you guys, uh, a lot going on. I should also mention that the Egyptian planes are back in town in Provo, just in time for Breijit to be back in town. um in DC. It is interesting to recognize the patterns of these planes. I will have a lot more to say about that. I just kind of wait and reel these people in nice and slowly. 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Obviously, like I said, um truth just doesn't fear introspect, like to be inspected. You can just go sit down, do a podcast, speak to people, answer questions, put things to bed. It's and and people can see the money they're spending, right? People don't like feeling as though there are others in the world who think that they can simply pay to edit their opinions, right? They don't have to face up anything. They don't have to speak to anybody. I'm just going to pay a bunch of influencers to say something and to attack anybody who criticizes somebody. There's something very like let them eat cake about that, right? Let them eat cake. We're not No, I'm not going to come down and speak to anybody. We're just gonna pay for aggressive PR campaigns and every single day. I mean, the attacks I haven't It's so crazy. It is just I you can't I can't even blink and there's another attack. First, they started with like I was so in love. I I retweeted one of these today. I was so in love with Charlie Kirk and that's why I'm just so angry because he picked Erica yesterday. They were really saying that I was a lesbian. So, like, oh, okay. It can't be both, guys. It can't be. Was I actually in love with Erica? Was I sad that that that Charlie got Erica? They they have no arguments anymore. They just smear. They just name call Rabbi Wiki. I mean, their attacks about against Joe Kent. It is so obvious that was a campaign. It's calling him a traitor. Uh because they're so angry that a text message got out and Andrew believes that uh Joe he gave it to Joe Kent and maybe Joe Kent sent it around to other people and it made the rounds, but Andrew told everybody about that text message. Everybody, including myself, about that text message. So, they're just angry that they're not in control of the narrative. And the only way they're ever going to get back in control of the narrative is tell the truth. Just tell the truth. People can handle that. They can handle you sitting down and telling them the truth about something unless there's a huge reason you don't want to do that. And I think there is a huge reason that you guys don't want to do that, right? I think this entire situation stinks to high heaven. Uh DBR or DB5 wrote, "WTF Stacy Sheridan lives in the same complex as Charlie and Erica. That is super weird. more and more it seems like they were all working to smother Charlie and make sure he was closely watched and handled. Yeah, she does. And I find it to be very weird and very creepy. Uh Mikey McCoy, I don't know if he has a place in there, him and Elizabeth, but they are there all the time because I I have sources that live in the building obviously uh like every single day they are there and uh they are working they all work in like the community center there and everyone finds it to be very creepy. It's like what is this kid who's like what 22 years old uh just kind of slid right into Charlie's chair right after and was doing interviews from his office. Like what wife would even want that kid in her husband's office doing interviews, moving things around, right? Moving things around in the office. That's insane to me that that she would provide him that access. Again, the behavior is what people are noticing is not normal. It is the the reaction and the behavior is not tracking with a grieving widow. And you can't just pay neocons to attack us uh to to change our understanding that the circumstance is odd, right? Everything that's happening is very odd. Okay. Uh questions from today's episode. Questions and comments. Pardon me. Kelly Martin writes, "I miss not knowing who Erica Kirk was." Uh yeah, Flame of Love Caramel writes, "Catholics for Candace. Thank you so much." Uh James the Least writes, "Baron Coleman Crash Out should be a regular feature of the show." I know. They're so good. He just has these little crash outs. But I feel him when he has it. It's me on the inside trying to stay calm. Cheryl writes, "Remember when Charlie was so excited and South when South Park did him?" That's so true. Charlie celebrated that um and made fun of it because he wasn't doing anything wrong. It's so it's like, okay, you noticed and you making fun of me and great, I'm now in the it's mainstream. I've become mainstream. And that was his perspective. you know, they're angry because there's something there that they recognize to be very true. And they also feel like they're not getting their bang for their PR buck. How could this be? We spent so much money on the hate Candace and uh hate Joe Kent and hate uh everybody else who's telling the truth about Charlie's opinions or whatever or people that are just meaningfully trying to investigate like Joe Kent. Crazy. Cameron Bayer writes, "I just knew Candace would say something about Duski. Sending love and aloha to everyone from Hawaii. Aloha. UFO writes Andrew Kovette. H Yeah, he's big mad. Go after black conservatives. Who's he talking about? Just say it. I want Andrew just come on the show, man. I just want him to come on the show. They're never going to come on the show. Rabbi is not going to come on the show. They all want to smear me, say things about me. Nobody wants to come on the show and discuss these things with me. If you believed it, if you believed I got something wrong, and I may have along the way, but guess what? If I get something wrong, I will change it. I will say upon more information I realized that the theory that I put out is not correct. Um, and here is how I know. I'm happy to make those edits. So why be stressed about what I am saying? If you see me on the show changing things like when I got the timeline wrong with Nick Shirley and the very next day I said, "Oh, Nick Shirley contacted me and I changed it." Uh, it's because you you can't answer these questions. It's been six months. If you could answer these questions, you would. And why can't you answer the questions? I I I I will leave it at that. I I will let that be a rhetorical question. Why can't you come forward and answer all of these questions and put everything to bed and please stop saying because it's going to impact the case. That's nonsense. The truth is not going to hurt and harm your case. What flight Andrew took on September 10th is not going to harm your case against Tyler Robinson unless it's incriminating to somebody else. creme dear crime writes, "The level of vitriol I've seen today on socials, attacks from every possible angle they can think of shows how close you are and how low they are willing to go. The world sees never give up. Go Max." I know it's been especially insane today. Uh someone put together this piece of information. It couldn't have been more inaccurate that my husband hit somebody hit and run or hit somebody uh while he was drunk and then they pulled up insurance receipts and it's just Oh my gosh. Yeah. No, not that the insurance one. Like that was they were trying to connect it to that like he got drunk and he hit a person she blocked out that that person has black hair and and black eyes which my husband does not have. And then they said, "Oh, and further to that point, here's the person that her husband hit when he was drunk on Yeah, I don't I don't think you have it." Um, but whatever. I didn't I didn't give it to you. It was the whole piece, whatever. We'll show it next week. They showed an insurance claim that somebody made for $6,000 and was like, "This must be the person that they harmed." Please reach out to that person if you believe in your heart of hearts that my husband struck somebody on the side of the road and we've been hiding that and then we gave him $6,000 and he went away. Please find that. Please find that victim. People are just so dumb on the internet. But you're right, the attacks have been coming in every different direction and it's been insane. Uh Shy Town writes, "Canis and Baron are American heroes. Absolutely phenomenal investigating. Thank you both." and all of the sleuths at home working hard to bring you tips. The truth will prevail. Christ is king. Uh, Seven Sheets writes, "Do we know who Charlie was staring at before his last in-home interview? That is what betrayal looks like to me. It's heartbreaking. Charlie deserves better." I have a suspicion that uh Notorious I don't think we have it, but Charlie's looking to the side right before he goes live with Laura Ingram. Uh, based on what Frank Turk said, I think he's looking at Frank Turk. And I am working on a tip that somebody told me that Frank Turk changed his schedule. Um he was supposed to have an appointment somewhere else and he changed it last second and I mean like in another state and I had always wondered why Frank Turk was in Scottsdale on September 8th. I wonder what he was doing. Is that a frequent stop for him? I think not. He said he goes like once or twice a year. Why then? Why traveling with Charlie? Um but it would be very interesting if Frank was not supposed to be there and then he was. Again, I'm working on that tip so that it might not prove fruitful, but it would show, which I have suspected, is that something was going on with Charlie personally, um, with Charlie and Erica personally, and rabbis and priests were praying, not because Charlie was worried about his tour or worried about a Jezebel article that went up. That's just not who Charlie was. He had a good sense of humor, especially when it came to people that were just frankly loony. Uh, so we're not being told the truth about that, but we haven't been told the truth about anything, but we're getting close to the truth. And we know we're getting close to the truth because the attacks don't stop. The attacks do not stop. If they were not guilty, they would have no issue, like I said, coming here. Invitation is always open to the rabbi, to Andrew, Andrew Kovette, to Blake Nef, to Laura Loomer. She wants to come on and explain with all the proof and the facts that she has uh that Tyler Robinson is guilty even though he hasn't even entered in a plea. We haven't had his arraignment. Guys, how are we saying Tyler Robinson did it? That you're just saying that you believe in guilty before proving innocent. That if the state can drum up charges against you, we don't even need to hear from the person who might very well enter in a not-uilty plea. We don't even need to hear from it because the police said that he's the guy. That is a guilty before proven innocent society. And it stands in stark contrast to everything that Charlie Kirk believed in. That's why people are asking them to just shutter Charlie's channel. Just shutter the channel, right? You you cannot just keep his show going on where you're just representing the opposite of his every principle, including his shifting perspective, which had shifted completely before he died on Israel. You guys just didn't want to deal with another Tucker Carlson or a Megan Kelly or a Candace Owens. When we see how you behave and we realize, yeah, you're not you're not innocent victims. You're kind of the opposite. You kind of gangstalk people. you don't leave people alone and it's because you're using tactics of like black psychology, you know, you're trying to psychiatrically break somebody down, psychologically break somebody down uh with lies and smears and liels and going after their sponsors. That has been their black magic trick of the last century. They believe in psychology. If there's enough of us and we just swarm them like a beehive and tell a bunch of lies, they'll eventually break. And what's actually happening is the opposite thing. We're getting stronger. We're proving to be resistant. We are like a resistant strain. And also, you harm yourself in the process because nobody believes you. You lie so much that nobody believes you anymore. It's completely ridiculous. Um anyway, you guys, we have new merch on the website. So, if you'd like to support us and support the work that we do, uh easy way to do that, buy our new merch. Not dying for Israel. That's a personal favorite of mine. Um, that's why they're raising. Remember, they told us this war has like 119% support and the troops love it. They just want to go die for Israel. Well, they're also raising the age, right? They're also raising the age to join the military from 35 up to 42 be beginning in April of this year. Why do I feel like recruitment numbers must be low? That's probably what's maybe the goyam are waking up. And you can blame Tucker Carlson and you can blame Candace Owens. you should probably blame yourselves because of how you behave. Um, you're not sending us your best. Laura Loomer is not your best. I will say that. Um, and it's just revealing your character. People don't want to be aligned with it. And by the way, for all of you guys, the that's great news for all the neocons. Sign up. Sign up and go fight that war. Iran's so evil. Go there out to the Middle East and win that winnable war. We we look forward to to cheering you guys on. Uh, our clip channel is up on YouTube. The link is in the description. Otherwise, we will see the book club peeps tomorrow at 400 p.m. Eastern.
