(audience applauding) - Oh hello.
- Here we go. - Awesome. - Shall we sit or stand? - Sorry guys, just had one of the dumbest interviews of my life with the BBC. (laughing) I actually have to say.
- Fake news! Fake news.
- It was exceptionally, it had to have been one
of the worst interviews I've ever sat through. I mean, I don't even
know what they're doing. I thought CNN was bad. BBC, run for their money. - Are they neutral, Candace? - Are they neutral? I'm like, not a single question was about what we're doing here. They're just trying to
go for their narrative. They're all ready to put out
articles that are against us and we haven't even spoken yet. And she's like, what makes you think that our news organizations are biased? And I said, have you read, we haven't even gotten here yet, we haven't sat down, we haven't said a single word. Have you read a single positive
piece of news about TPUK? What we saw, when we
said we were launching, the idea of coming and
speaking on college campuses about conservative principles, the headlines were unbelievable. Worse than I thought it
actually was here in the U.K. - Before we even had an opportunity to talk about our core
values or our plans and, I mean look, Candace is
a role model for us all for how she punches back twice
as hard against the media, and I think we're starting to see that, really across the States
and here in the U.K., whether it be CNN, or BBC,
or many of these outlets, they engage in what we call
destination journalism. So they have the headline in mind before they even start
asking the questions. - Right. - So the headline they wanted
to make for Candace Owens tonight was Climate Change Denying, Trump Sync-a-fat American Activist Comes to U.K. to Tell Them
How to Live Their Life, and she said, no, no, no. I'm not gonna give you that headline, we're gonna have a conversation. - Why are you asking me
about climate change? What about Turning Point
is about climate change? There's eight million hits
if you Google my name, we've done 200 hours of college campuses - [Both] Just over the last year. - 200 hours of--
- And we've never once spoken about climate change. Why are you spending 20 minutes asking me about my
opinion on climate change? Oh, I know, because you're fake news. You're here to say things
about us that aren't true, you're here to try to
smear everybody as racist, and sexist, and misogynist,
and climate change deniers, and I think she's still in the room so. She looked like a nice girl,
I think she's a nice girl. - Look, and this is so important because the media is supposed to be the gatekeepers of fairness. They're supposed to go and
ask objective questions and allow dialogue, debate, and discussion so that all viewpoints can
be appropriately heard. And we find far too often, especially in the States
and here in the U.K., where they want to steer
people in a certain direction. They wanna frame things inappropriately, they want to have a
narrative that is fit in. And really, I think, what
our President in the States has done such a great
job of is identifying how the media has been used
as a weapon of far left. And not being afraid
to go around the media, using social networks,
Twitter, so on and so forth, and really get the facts out there. - I have no respect for the media, I'm just gonna be honest with you. And then she asked me at one point, then her second question, first she talks about climate change. Second one is, how could
you support a President that had this call to action
to grab women by the pussy? I mean, that's not even true. That's not what he said, she
took a piece of what he said. So she plagiarized CNN, which is already bad homework, right? The last people you should
be plagiarizing is CNN. - Fake news.
- Yeah. And I said, have you done
a single piece of work? Did you have a direct
quote that Trump said? A direct quote that I said? Nope. Fumbles through 10 pieces of paper, doesn't have a single quote. Journalists are not in the
business of telling the truth and that is why it is so important that we have organizations like this that are popping up. - And I just wanna say first and foremost, thank you to the Turning Point U.K. team that put on all these
amazing events this week, and tonight Oli, Chloe, all you guys, thank you guys so much. Give it up for the Turning Point U.K team, they've done an amazing, amazing job. (crowd applauding) - Alright, now that I've gotten through-- - No it's--
- I had to, yeah, that interview was just unbelievable. But we should talk a little bit about what Turning Point U.K actually is. What Turning Point USA is, how we got started, why we're here, and what we're gonna do. - We're just so honored to be here. So, six and a half years ago, I started Turning Point
USA from my parents garage, as Oli said, around three core ideas, the idea that the U.S. Constitution was the greatest political
document ever written, that free market
capitalism is the greatest and the most moral economic
system ever discovered, we'll get into that in a little bit, and American exceptionalism, that America is the greatest country in the history of the world. We mean no offense when
we say that (laughs) we can have a discussion,
and debate, and dialogue. But we broadened it a little bit in saying that western civilization
is the greatest experiment that humans have ever engaged in, and this success has just
been amazing and overwhelming and a year and a half ago, something truly extraordinary happened. I met Candace Owens at an
event in Palm Beach, Florida, and everything really
changed for the better. And after five minutes of talking to her, I offered her a job right on the spot 'cause I saw her enthusiasm, her charisma, her intellect, her capacity to be able to change minds, and her willingness to fight which you don't find that
combination all the time. Over the last year and
a half, we've kind of taken the States by storm, where we're now on 1,400 high school and college
campuses across the country. As Candace mentioned,
we did over 200 hours of live programming together last year. Think about that. 200 hours of live programming and we started to get lots of inquiries from friends here in the U.K. that said, please, can you help
bring your enthusiasm, the energy, and your proven
platform to the U.K., and we said, absolutely. Candace got a nice side deal
out of the whole thing, too, which you can talk about. Which was, if you wanna-- if you know what I mean. - Oh, like I'm getting
married to a Brit now. - Yeah, exactly. Minor detail.
(audience applauds) Where's George? George is here somewhere. So, we're so honored to be here. We believe in a couple core things, we believe student activism is critical, and that the left cannot have a monopoly on the student's mind, if you will, that students should not be Socialists and not all students
have to be Socialists, and we believe that the ideas embedded in the Democrat Socialist wing in America, but also the Labor Party here in the U.K. are dangerous to society. They are corrosive to the bedrock of a functioning economy and a culture. And we stand strongly,
really, and definitively against these ideas and also offer market-based solutions
around these four core ideas. - That's correct and we
talk a lot about oppression and the Oppression Olympics
that seems to be going on where people compete to be more oppressed because they think that
there is some virtue in oppression like, oh well, you're a man, but I'm a woman and so I'm more oppressed. Oh, but I'm a black woman
so I'm more oppressed. Well, I'm a black disabled
woman, so I'm more oppressed. Oh, I'm a black, gay, disabled woman, so I'm the most oppressed. and everyone's very excited
because they're oppressed. And this is something that I started to observe within my own country and I wasn't paying attention
to politics whatsoever, it's actually something
that I fight for in America, is that black America
is not paying attention to politics enough, and when we do, we are convinced that
we have to be Democrats, you guys Labor Party. We're convinced that
we have to be leftists, and it's because they care about us, they really care about the little guy. This is sort of the belief. And when Donald Trump
came down the escalator and announced that he was running for President of the United States, I actually wasn't a supporter of his. I thought to myself, oh no. I was actually kind of pro Bernie, I'm embarrassed to say that. But, then something remarkable
happened where this man, Donald Trump, was loved by our media. Just so you guys understand, I grew up listening to hip-hop music. Every Jay-Z and Beyonce
song, and Puff Daddy, Diddy, whatever he's
calling himself these days, it was all about Trump, Trump, Trump. Beyonce wanted to be sipping
poolside at Mar-a-Lago, which is the exclusive club
that he owns down in Palm Beach, and even Barack Obama said that the American dream is to be like Trump. And the very second that he said that he was going to run for
President of the United States, our media did a 180. Despite the fact that he had this show, and he was throwing parties all the time, and celebrities loved him, they wanted to convince us that he was a racist, a sexist, a misogynist, and the media obsessed over this. Now despite the fact that I
didn't support him initially when he came down the escalator, it forced me to sort of ask
myself a very serious question. And that question was, is
it possible that racism is now being used as a theme to turn black people into
single issue voters? We're going to scare you. We're going to scare you every time there is an election cycle and make you think that
if you don't vote for us, you're gonna be sent backwards. The same can be said of
the feminist movement, another BBC question she asked me, you say you're not a feminist. No, I am not a feminist, okay. I'm proudly not a feminist. (crowd applauds) They sort of radicalize it, and they go after men, and they're trying to divide us, and you should be upset and
you should be oppressed, if you're short, it's
because of tall people, if you're poor, it's
because of rich people, if you're black, it's
because of white people. Right? (laughs) And I just thought to myself, I'd like to present
maybe a different debate, a different discussion in my community, and I launched a YouTube channel. A different type of media. And I started talking to the black community
about different things, like do we really just wanna
perpetually be victims? Is this really what it's about,
finding ways to be victims? And the left lost their mind. I can say for the first time
in my life I saw real racism. I saw what it means if you
have the authority to say that I'm not going to allow you to use bits and pieces of who I am, whether that be black, whether that be woman, whether that be straight, whether that be gay to confine
me to what I must think. And if you've read any of these hits about me and these pieces about me, it's nasty, and it's vicious, and it really makes you question, are you the party that
champions women, Labor Party? Are you the party that champions black people, Democrat Party? Are you the party that uses them so that you can assert power for yourself? - That's exactly right. And never forget, the left
needs people to need them. They never wanna offer opportunity to people that are under-privileged, they wanna offer them just enough stuff to keep them in their current status quo so they can turn them into
a perpetual voting machine so that they can maintain political power. The left, whether it be in the U.K., whether it be in Asia, anywhere across the world, the commonality of the left is they wanna destroy core
cultural institutions that work because out of chaos then you
can assume authoritarianism. No matter where it is across the world. This is done time, and time again. We see it in the States, the left destroys everything it touches, and you can see it here in the U.K. It is horrifying to me that Jeremy Corbyn has the kind of support that he has here in this great and proud country. It is sick, honestly. It is a disgrace. It is a disgrace.
(crowd applauds) and what Candace talked about, which is so important, is that identity politics
is one of the worst ideas that has really permeated
throughout western society. Which is you if look at
Charlie, you look at Candace, immediately we're programmed to assume one of us is oppressor and
one of us is oppressed. Immediately, right? That's the way the
media tries to paint it. Is that you just look
at this duo right here, and that's what's called
the Oppression Olympics, being in your Olympic stadium
is actually quite fitting, by the way, to be able to talk about the Oppression Olympics,
as Candace talks about. Candace and I don't care about what you look like, where you come from. We care how you act, and what you think. There was a famous
individual in the States by the name of Martin Luther King, and many of you have
probably heard of him. He helped lead the Civil Rights Movement, he said, "I dream of a day where people "will not be judged by
the color of their skin, "but the content of their character." The left cares much more
about the color of your skin than the content of your character. They care much more about
how they can subdivide you into political groups to control you, 'cause that's all the left wants. They want power. They want perpetual power so they can keep themselves in positions of influence, so they can enrich themselves and exert that sort of authority over the modern day citizen and keep poor people permanently poor, and keep themselves in power perpetually. - And they're also making it permissible to be outwardly hateful
towards straight, white men, like this is the most bizarre
thing that I've watched. Honestly, I'm on the sidelines watching this new trend of white guilt. Right?
Where it's like, you have the white progressives, who are going after
the white conservatives by telling them that they should shut up and not speak and not have an
opinion because they're white. Again, I don't have a horse in this race, it's white on white crime. But it's bizarre and
this is where we're at where they feel virtue
in hating themselves. Like, I'm a straight white
man but I'm a good one. I walk around with my
tail in between my legs. The BBC reporter says to me, you know, I have one of your Tweets here. I love when reporters try to surprise me with my own tweets like I
didn't author them, right. And it says that you love masculinity. Yes, I love masculinity. A society needs strong men. I'm not ashamed to say that
a society needs strong men. - And feminism has become much more about hating men than empowering women. - 100% - And the commonality in the left is they'll divide and then they can conquer. Black against white,
Christian against Jewish, whatever it might be,
police versus citizens, men versus women, they want division because out of division
then it becomes very tribal. In the States we have an expression, there's a Latin expression that is called (speaking in foreign language) and people on the center
right in the States, and I believe it's very much
the same here in the U.K., is again, we believe out of many one. That no matter what
you're differences are, that we can unite together. The Labor and the left, they
wanna focus on the differences not on the commonalities, because again, that is how you get the
most amount of power is you create these tribal groups and you create essentially
sectarian politics that has horrible, horrible impact. And look, Candace and I we're
really crusading against Socialism in the States
and it's horrifying. Just kind of a quick political update in what's going on in the States, our President is doing unbelievably well. Don't believe any of the
media that you read here. He is succeeding on every single frontier, he is delivering on his promises in a way that no American
President really has. We have the lowest ever
black unemployment, the lowest disabled unemployment, the lowest Hispanic, Latino unemployment, the lowest ever Asian unemployment, the lowest black poverty rate, 500% black-run businesses
in the States, 3% GDP rate. I'm sure you guys would
love a 3% GDP rate recently, right, my goodness. Six million jobs created
since his inauguration, manufacturing has come back, half a million manufacturing
jobs have returned to the States since the
President was inaugurated. The States, we're finally
energy independent, so we're actually exporting
more oil than we're importing, so we don't have to buy oil
anymore from the Saudi's or any of the middle-eastern
countries that have exploited and really reigned terror
across the world for so long. We can go on for another hour on how great the States are doing. So don't believe the media on that regard, but there is a rise of Socialism happening both on the western world, and Candace and I are
standing firmly against it. - Right, and ultimate what we are against is this idea of just growing government. Government as the ultimate
solution to everything and all of our problems and the government gets bigger and bigger and the individual gets
smaller and smaller. And that's really what this uprising, this sort of American
Revolution was in the States, that's what the Trump
bandwagon was created upon. Is realizing that we were actually losing, and there's so much symmetry
happening here in the U.K. where people are sort
of waking up and saying, why do we need two governments? Why more governments? Why do we need to be
governed by this many people? And I'm having fun, people are scared. What is the U.K. gonna
do if Brexit happens? I'm reading all of the articles, apparently you guys aren't
gonna have vegetables, right? Is this a thing now, right? I mean, trust me the
articles were very similar, if Trump wins the sky will fall. - We've read this before.
- Right. (laughs) - They said, they're gonna
have war in North Korea! No, actually we're closer
to peace than ever before. The stock market's gonna crash! We've had 99 record highs. It's the highest it's ever been. The economy will tank! We have the best GDP numbers in 60 years. The black community will be in chaos! No, actually they're doing
better than ever before. If the ruling class says
you're gonna see catastrophe, you know prosperity is around the corner if you do the exact opposite of what they're trying to tell you to do. (crowd applauds) - (laughs) I love that. - So Candace, talk a little bit
about, this is so important, victim versus victor. We talk about it in the States a lot, I think it's important to. - Right, so where is the BBC lady? Is she here? Really this is what I would
have loved to talk to her about, but she had no interest in it. But, what we're really talking about is I've sort of coined the idea of a victor mentality versus
a victim mentality. And victim mentality is
really plaguing our society. It's telling people, handing them a bunch of
excuses before they even try. And that's easy. That's cowardice, right. Life is hard, life is
a series of overcoming. It's not easy. I started my life completely impoverished, a family that didn't have
two pennies to give me, but I was never told
ever in my entire life that I couldn't do something
on the basis of my skin. I had a grandfather who was sort of the patriarch of our family who grew up in the segregated south and his first job was
pulling out tobacco to dry and laying it in an attic
when he was five years old. And he had the real KKK, not the CNN drumming up a narrative that there's racism in America. The actual-- The Democrats, that's exactly right. But the actual real KKK, who would shoot bullets
into his home growing up and my grandfather never once had anything angry to say about white people. It was just this is the time that it was, he worked hard his entire life, and he eventually retired on
that same share cropping farm. He went back and he owns it now. And that is the American dream, right. If you work hard, you
can overcome anything that you're going through. So, it's weird to me to go into rooms, and go into a climate where we have the most privileged people
that have ever lived in the history of America claiming that they are more oppressed
than their ancestors. I mean that's really
what it comes down to. Black Lives Matter,
which I'm sure you know that I speak out against because they're statistically and factually
wrong about everything. And they're over privileged Americans. They're morally wrong, statistically wrong and unfortunately for them, they're buying into a media narrative, so I understand where
that sentiment comes from. If you don't go on a
pursuit of facts and logic and you react emotionally, but we have people that believe
that they're more oppressed. Charlie and I will go onto
college campuses in America, it's my favorite thing to do, and we sit down in a chair
and the first thing I say is, I just wanna check what planet we're on. And they go, okay. And I say, how many of you believe that America today, in 2019, is a more racist country
than it was in the 1940's? Half the hands will go up. And I go, okay, so we are
on a random planet today, and we're gonna have to fight. But this is really, what we're showing is the relationship that people
have with their media. That the media has the ability to completely delude
people against reality. I mean, it's an impossible
argument to make. You cannot make a sound argument that society is worse off today than we were under Jim Crow in America, and segregation in America when there were white only and black only fountains. You cannot make that sound argument. And yet, people will. Because the media is
viciously trying to sell this. And I think what we're trying
to get to the bottom to is why? - And exactly. What we find on the
college campuses is that victimhood is taught as a virtue. And I'm sure you have commonalities, you see this in the U.K. I could see it through
reading between the lines and all the different articles
written about the Labor Party is that somehow if you are a victim, for whatever reason you
think you're a victim, that is worn as a badge of honor. And they compete of who can be
the biggest possible victim. When in reality, the virtue is overcoming whatever
victimhood that might be. And the virtue is Candace Owen's story, so actually western society,
and the U.K. is part of this, I mean, the U.K. is an
unbelievably great country, and you have so much to be proud of which is why I'm so thrilled, I hope, that you guys get the hell out of the EU, that you guys can be a proud country. Because, you guys have an amazing history, and you have so much to be proud of. You brought common law to the world, you guys have been a benevolent country, you have stood against the face
of evil time and time again, you have been an entrepreneurial country, you have so much and that's
why Candace and I talk about that there is an appropriate sense of nationalism and patriotic identity that is okay to talk about. But the story of western society, and Candace Owens really embodies the story of western society, is what's called the Hero's Journey. Where you start with
very little to nothing and you go through circumstance, you go through adversity, you're able to overcome that adversity, and then you're able to succeed, and the great stories that
we all grew up reading whether it be Lord of the Rings, whether it be Harry Potter,
all of you know that story, this is this Hero's Journey. Where you think about it,
it's not Harry Potter was, you know he lived
underneath the stairwell, and he applied for government programs, went to local community
college, rejected his letter to the School of Hogwarts
Witchcraft and Wizardry, went through some sort of
Medieval Dance Theory class, and then worked at Starbucks as a Barista. No one's gonna read that story! (crowd laughing)
(crowd applauding) Instead, that's what
the left is selling us. Is this horribly miserable
dwelling in mediocrity vision. What we believe in is no, no, no we believe in the individual. The individual is what built the west. It's not the collective, it's not group identity
based on victimhood. Instead, it's the stories
that we dreamt growing up. Okay, it's the Harry Potter story where you're gonna take a big risk, you're gonna create a team of people that, you know the story is obviously embedded in our consciousness at this point, and then you're able to
achieve something bigger than you could have ever imagined. Whatever that might be,
whether it be composing a song, or building a family, or starting a business. That's what makes the west the best. Every other culture
that has ever been tried has been about either the empowerment of the elites and the ruling class and the suppression of those
that are not at that level, or the absolute continuation
of serfdom into perpetuity, and so unfortunately, there
is a real well funded effort to destroy what made western civilization the greatest experiment in human history and it really starts in our universities. We look at, if we're very
honest about ourselves, the universities, I know in the States, and what I've been reading in
the U.K. it's no different, is where these bad ideas get
way too much credibility. - And just how much society has shifted, it's quite alarming to think that it was just a few decades ago
that our boys locked arm and stormed D-Day, these brave, the average age of D-Day
was 22 years old, right, and they knew they were going to die. Those boys knew they were going to die so that they could preserve the freedoms of western civilization. And today we have people,
Labor Party and Democrats, who can't deal with the fact that conservatives wanna share ideas on campus. Like, that's it. These men fall apart because Candace Owens is coming to speak about
conservative principles. It's pathetic. It really is to me, it's just pathetic. And we need to return back to normalcy and being able to share ideas. Look, we're welcome. We welcome every single person
whether they agree with us, disagree with us, what
we always like to do is engage in discussion because we believe in what we're saying. And you can't learn if
you're not going to hear the other side, or the other position. - And we do wanna call up our amazing British influencers and friends. Candace made such an important point which is in the States
we preserve free speech most of the time, at all costs. And I'm very afraid what
I'm reading here in the U.k. I'm very, very concerned because as soon as you suppress dialogue, the ruling class will always win. And this whole idea that you
have to shut up hate speech, the more speech is a
solution to hate speech. Always. Not having the government dictate what is hate speech and what isn't, and the United States of America is an amazing example of this, okay. We've had our fair share
over the last 100 years of fringe, hateful voices. How do we handle that? We allow more people to speak. To speak in unison and to speak louder. And it works, because then people will get more engaged and more involved. And I'm reading things,
and it's really concerning where people are getting
visits from the authorities because they say something that
others might disagree with. It's really, really scary stuff, folks. And I'm telling you, if there's one thing that will lead you to that road to serfdom that F.A. Hayek talked about, it's the suppression of speech. Because what comes before speech? It's thought. And if they're able to
prevent you from thinking, then the government and
the ruling class will win. You can't let that happen. - That's correct. (crowd applauds) Yeah, yes, let's have them up. Where are they? No, I don't know where they are. Chloe, and Dominique, and Steven. - Let's call you guys up. So part of the Turning Point U.K. vision is to have amazing voices, young voices, that can talk first hand about
the values we care about. So let's welcome up Chloe,
Dominique, and Steven. We'll have a little chat and
then we want to have questions. We have a policy, Candace Owens and I, if you disagree with us, you're allowed to go to the front of the
line and ask a question. In fact, we want the disagreement. We come here for the disagreement. You know, we always joke
around in the States, I see some MAGA hats in the back, we love the Trump 2072 shirts, but we really want the disagreements. So, anyway, let's kick it off. Steven. - So, I'm Steven Edgington,
I work for Leave Means Leave. So just a little bit
about me first of all, like Candace, I started off on YouTube. About four years ago, I
started making YouTube videos. Not about, obviously, what
Candace was talking about, but talking about Brexit. The most exciting political opportunity that Britain faces in the 21st century and it's something that has excited me and millions of young
people across Britain. And I started making these YouTube videos and some of them got 100's
of thousands of views and people really liked them, and I started doing interviews with politicians and journalists
and people like that. And it really grew from there and then I became a journalist, and now I work for Leave Means Leave, which is a pro Brexit campaign. And some of you might ask, why do we need a pro-Brexit campaign, when we voted in 2016 to leave? Well, the reason is, obviously, next week MP's voting in Parliament whether to approve Brexit or not. And it seems to me, and it
seems to a lot of people that MP's are likely
to not approve Brexit, so that issue, I see it, it's
all about free markets anyway. Brexit is all about free markets because you've got one layer
of government in Westminster and then you've got a super-national level of government in Brussels. And that government in
Brussels is not even elected. The President is a bureaucrat. It's like being in China. It's like being in China where they have Technocracy. You can't even elect the
people that are in charge of us and the people that are proposing laws. So that's why so many people need to get involved in Turning
Point U.K. we need to, look, Brexit is the
opportunity that Britain has. It's our Trump. And the establishment in the U.K. has spent the last two and a half years trying to prevent Brexit from happening. Last week I read an article for the Sun and the headline was,
We Marched Against Iraq, We Marched Against David
Cameron's Tuition Fees, and Now it's Time to March for Brexit. And my organization in
a couple of weeks time, actually next Saturday, are gonna be starting a 300-mile march from Sunderland to London
to say to the elite that we have to deliver Brexit. It's so important to get this right, because if you don't
then 17.4 million people in the U.K. are gonna be livid. It's time for the youth in Britain to fight back against the establishment, because that's what we've
been doing for decades. And for the first time, the youth in Britain seem to be obsessed with bureaucrats in Brussels and seem to be obsessed
with the establishment. We need to be rising up against
Brussels and Westminster and telling them, no, we've had enough. We want to take back
control of our country. And that's why Turning
Point is so important. To get young people enthused in Britain against the establishment. Because for the last 20 years, young people in the U.K.
have been anti-establishment, but what's happened in the last decade? We've become obsessed with
politicians like Tony Blair. We've become obsessed
with people in Brussels who are making laws on our behalf who we don't even elect. So, Turning Point U.K. is a new movement to get young people involved in politics and to finally say, no, we've had enough. We're not gonna let you run our lives. We're not gonna let you make our laws. We're finally gonna take
back control, so yeah. (applause) - Okay, so, one of the main
questions I get asked is, how can a young black
woman be conservative? It's seen as an anathema
in the U.S. and the U.K. People look at me, and they look at me like
I've grown five heads and what I say to that is, I say that my upbringing is a massive part of what makes me a conservative. It planted the seed within me, in a way, because I come from a
single parent household. My dad died when I was younger, so it was my mom's responsibility to look after two children
that she was left with and what she did was
she created a business. She created a cleaning company, The Pink Ladies Cleaning Company. And the school that she
eventually sent me to, that was a really good school, it's quite funny because a lot
of the kids that went there, she would actually clean
their parent's houses, so I always felt quite out of place there. But the road to being a conservative wasn't one that was automatic. It wasn't a light bulb moment. I voted for Jeremy Corbyn in 2016. (audience groaning)
Yep. I was a Labor supporter. I didn't really know
anything about politics, but I thought that Labor was
the only political home for me, because how could I
possibly as a black woman support the conservative party? It's reserved for rich
white men basically. But then, I began to do my research and that's an important part of what being a conservative actually is. I started to look at Labor's-- - Thinking. (laughing) (crowd applauds) - I started to look at Labor's policies and realized that they were
absolutely nonsensical, economically illiterate and they seemed more concerned with getting rid of Trident and what's going on everywhere
else except the U.K. They seemed more concerned with being ruled by the EU instead of giving our parliament the
power to make our own laws. They seemed more concerned
with treating patriotism as if it's a dirty word
in the U.K. in 2019, and that's something that I
find completely ridiculous. (crowd applauds) So, when I eventually realized that I just was not
passionate about Socialism and in actual fact, I love my country. In actual fact, I do
not hate white people. I do not resent white people for things that happened in the past. In actual fact, I'm treated like an equal and an individual in the U.K. in 2019. And that for me was the breakaway from the mental slavery that leftism is, and I've had a lot of hate for this. I've been called an
Uncle Tom numerous times, but this just reveals
the racism of the left. As a black woman, I can
think any way I please. And that is the first part of
actually being an individual and actually being free in 2019. Being able to think any way you please, because for too long black people have been expected to think with the left. When in reality, black people socially, are very conservative. We do believe in the family, we do believe in working hard, and we do believe in ourselves instead of the government
doing everything for us. So that's why I'm very
excited to be a part of TPUK because that's what it stands for. It's a new brand of
conservatism for everyone and it's inclusive, and you know, this is only just the beginning. (cheering and applauding) - Amazing. Hi, is this one on? Hello? Hello. There we go. Hi, I'm Chloe, and for the avoidance of any doubt in the audience, I do self identify as someone
who believes very strongly in freedom and I hope you do to. I work for the Tax Payers Alliance, I campaigned for Brexit,
and I ran a column. Like Dominique, I get a lot of heat for being a conservative woman. Apparently, we're not allowed to have our own political opinions,
we've all got to be on the left. And I'm here tonight because I believe very strongly in freedom. Your freedom, my freedom,
the freedom of the people that diss us on the internet. I think it's very important
and if you are living in nearly any other
society in human history, or many other societies today, you wouldn't be allowed to come
in here and debate politics. You just wouldn't be allowed. You wouldn't be free to do so. So I think it's really important that we stand up for our right to do so, and especially on university campuses which are supposed to be a
place of debate and learning and getting closer to the truth, and I'm concerned that young people are being condescended to and told that they can't handle hearing
two sides of the argument, or they don't have enough resilience to make up their own minds about things. You don't need a safe space. Your mind is your own,
and your life is your own. That is why I completely
reject the far left ideologies. because, they actually
are about owning people. I don't think anybody should
be owned by anybody else. I don't think essential bureaucracy should be telling millions of people, here is how to live your life. Here is what you should eat. Here is what you should do for work. I just disagree with that. I think human beings are
born for more than that. And, you know, I just
think you are individuals. At the moment, you're
not really being treated as individuals by many on the left. They're talking about group identities. They want you to be defined
by a group identity. You are not your skin color,
or your gender, or your accent. There's only one thing that
defines you in this world, and that is your choices. We need to choose today
to have the courage to say that after everything that our
ancestors have been through, our parents, our parent's parents, and all of the people that
fought for the freedoms that we take for granted today, the least that we can do
is to have the courage and stand up and say that
we care about these things in spite of everything they're
going to say about you, in spite of all the hate you're gonna get. In spite of everything that
they say about Dominique, she still has the courage
to sit on this stage tonight and say what she believes. So we need to have courage
and we need to defend freedom. Thank you. (cheering and applauding) - I will say, I was watching
the BBC a couple hours ago. I was so underwhelmed by some
of your members of parliament. These three should be in the highest level leadership possible. Way more charisma and
100 times more courage than some people that are
allegedly representing you. So, let's do questions. What do we think? I think that's why we're here, right. So, I don't know the
process that we're doing it. The great Oli is going to figure that out. We'll just have them stand
and ask their question. Is that okay? - Yes. - Okay, I saw your hand go up first, yeah. We have a mic? George, okay. Great. - Hello.
- And say who your question is for or it can just be a jumble. - [Man] It's for all
of you, you were saying you like difficult questions, so I'm gonna start with
a difficult question. You've got Tax Payers Alliance up there, who are very well known
in Britain for the fact that they're very opaque
about who pays for them. They have the lowest possible
funding transparency rating, and it seems to be the case
for Turning Point, too. Can anyone tell me who
finances Turning Point U.K.? And while you're here Chloe, who finances Tax Payers Alliance? And 'cause you style yourselves as a grass roots organization, if you're not willing to say that, then how do people know you're not being kind of led in your views
by corporate donors? - Sure. So, I get this question a lot. And I think what's really
at the heart of it is, you want to know if I
believe what I'm saying, or if some rich white men
are telling me what to say? - No, no--
- That's what it is, isn't it? - [Dominique] That's what it really is. - It's 2019, and you
don't think a grown woman can have their own political
opinions, why are you, this is what the question's
all about, right? You wanna say that we don't
really believe in this stuff. - [Man] TPA and Turning Point are styled as a grass roots organization. - [Charlie] We are. - But who pays for you then, that's what-- - Okay, well I'm actually
going to interject there. Hi, I'm George Farmer, I'm the chairman of Turning Point U.K., and I just want to talk
about the funding situation. Because actually there's so
many question's on the internet about who funds you? Right, generic NPC comment, who funds you? I can tell you for fact, okay, if there's some secret
dark money out there please come and have a chat with me, because we are desperately
short of funds, okay. I will tell you this now that no pressure group, no think tank, nobody on the left or the right, if you're not a political
party in the U.K. discloses their funders, right. Nobody, right. Momentum. Who funds Momentum, right? Let's talk about that. Jon Lansman, who funds Momentum? Okay, nobody talks about
who funds the left. (crowd applauding) Who funded Jeremy Corbyn's
leadership campaign? That's a really good question. And there are some really interesting people out there who
funded his campaign, right. And we can talk about that all night long. So the question about who
funds Turning Point U.K., I can tell you it's U.K. donors, who are businessmen who don't want to have their names disclosed, right. I gave money to the Tory's. I was vilified for giving
money to the Tory's. Everyone who gives money to the Tory's is absolutely crucified, right. Because you're suddenly a Tory donor and everyone hates you, right. It's just, it's a disgrace. If you give money, the unions put a check for
Labor through the front door of Labor for 12 million
pounds on January the 1st. It's a disgrace, okay. Nobody goes after the unions. Nobody goes after Labor. Okay. Who funds us? The U.K. donors fund us,
and they're just businessmen who want to keep their
names out of politics. It's a very simple answer, okay. That's the end of it. (cheering and applauding) - I wanna. George, you are so correct. Never forget, one of the
key tactics the left uses is intimidation, harassment,
mob tactics, and boycotts. They want nothing more than
the disclosure of patriots, as we call them in the States, that wanna defend their country so that they can boycott their businesses, that they can have mobs
go into their restaurants, and that they can orchestrate any sort of divestment tactics against
people that they disagree with. And you know what, if you wanna see who funds Turning Point USA, we disclose many of our donors
on our website in the States. We're funded by over
30,000 grass roots donors across the United States
and we're so happy to see the same type of
model happen here in the U.K. Great answer George, thank you so much. (applause) - Yeah, that'd be great. - So the future. Hello. (knocking) Oh, sorry. (laughing) So in the future, regarding
the global economy in general, we're gonna see massive,
massive changes with, any one of you guys
wanna plum up and answer? What do you think's gonna happen in the next 10 years in labor market? Just in the global labor market. Any one of you guys? - Yeah, I'll take this one. So, I mean, the international economy, as you say, is going through
massive changes at the moment. We're going through a period
of massive slow growth apart from in one
particular western country, which Charlie mentioned earlier, Trump's 3% is just phenomenal. Obviously, we're looking, in the U.K. we want the
exact same thing from Brexit, but, for example, in the European Union, growth is very, very slow at the moment and Europe's own growth
is very, very slow. But at the same time, in the U.K, we're growing faster than them, we have the lowest
unemployment in over 40 years, but in the next 10 years as I see the global economy changing, you've gotta look at different
areas of the global economy. So, for example, in Asia,
yes, there's going to be massive amounts of growth
in developing markets. India, China, places like that. And that's where the U.K really needs to, and the U.S., really needs to hone in on and make new relationships
around the world. And that's what Brexit's all about. It's about engaging in new economies, engaging and developing markets. The European Union is so protectionist that it won't--
- I agree. - [Steven] Let us engage
with those economies. - I fully agree, my question is that in the next decade or two we're gonna see massive changes in just the way our
economy works in general. We're talking about AI,
we're talking about robots. How on Earth are you going to
be able to sell free markets to limited government people
if worst case scenario, 50 to 60% of the people that these are, I'm asking this question
to anyone who can answer. - Sure, so the same
question was posed in 1910 when people said, what's gonna
happen when the rickshaws go out of business when all
the cars hit the streets? The same question was posed
in 1918 when people said, what's gonna happen to all
the street light lighters? - Right, when they got rid of
gasoline and kerosine lighting and they said, no, electricity
is way too forward. So, I mean, the world moves-- - I would agree with you.
- Yeah. - I would agree with you on
this one aspect, however-- the one thing that, and
I've heard this before-- - [Man] You gotta pick your mic up. - Sorry. The reason why I disagree
with you, with everyone, on this aspect is because
that argument is based on technology during that period of time. For example-- - This argument is based on technology during this point in time. - No, but the point I'm
trying to make just that when people will use that argument, societies completely changed
and artificial intelligence wasn't even a thing-- - Electricity wasn't a thing,
so it was all gasoline. They thought the whole
world was gonna collapse the economy was gonna tank-- - I don't think the economy's gonna tank or anything like that. But what I'm worried about is that, remember I'm on your side on this one so. - Yeah, I'm just saying worry
is a misuse of imagination. These things tend to correct themselves, and that's what history has
shown over and over again. - Markets work.
- Markets work. I'm not arguing-- - What do you think is gonna happen? - So, my worry is basically
Fascists and Communists basically controlling debate and us being left in the wilderness. That's my worry.
- Okay. - Thank you.
- Fair enough. - Next question.
- Disagreements please. - [Man] Here. - We got a disagreement to the left. (laughing) - Ironic. - Not sure if a couple
are left wing at least, so my disagreement is of an open boarders. Myself I'm a libertarian,
capitalist, free markets. What is the question
or what is the argument for you to try to individualize
people and not treat them according to a (mic screeches) not treat them according
to a group identity when you're explicitly qualifying them according to a nationality? So you think that discriminating
people according to race, or ethnicity, or your
virtues, or your values for a specific thing is totally wrong. But you think it's correct
to discriminate them according to a specific
nationality, a visa, a green card, a paper and to exclude half of the world for a better opportunity
in raising your standards by living and immigrating
to somewhere else abroad? - Can I ask you a question? Do you believe in national identity? - No I oppose-- Do I believe that it exists? Yes. Do I oppose it? Yes.
- So do you believe there's a difference
between the set of laws in the United States or
U.K., and Saudi Arabia? - Yes, there is--
- So there is a difference between national identity, therefore, some countries
have better ideas and some countries have worse ideas? - Is the culture monolithic or not? No, it is not. So those people from Saudi Arabia, when they migrate here to the U.K.-- - Okay, but they believe gays, sorry to cut you off, but they believe gays should
be thrown off of buildings. Right?
- Nope. - What do you mean no?
- Yes. - Yes they do, yes they do. - Yes they do, they execute
homosexuals in Saudi Arabia. I do agree, and you're
correct in your analysis. Why is it wrong to
immigrate a group of people from Saudi Arabia into the United States? - 'Cause you'll have 150
million people at the door step of the United States yesterday. Because beacons of freedom must, the reason is, look, you must have sensible immigration policy or else-- - You think that the government
sucks for everything, but you believe that the central (mumbles) government immigration is good-- - Hold on, hold on, hold on. First off, slow down. Slow down, we're not in a rush tonight. Slow down, take a deep breath okay. I'm going to answer what
you're saying, okay. The idea that you just
wanna have open boarders where you just acknowledged
the first thing that I said, which is that, yes, in Saudi Arabia they believe women should
be covered from head to toe, that they just got the right to drive, they have to have, they can't vote, right. You have to have a male
signature to enter it in now, and in certain places you
can't leave the country without a guardian, right. - The description of a
problem is not a solution. - It's a yes or no question.
- Yes. - [Candace] It's a yes or no
question, we're getting there. - Describing a problem does
not justify a solution. - I didn't give you a solution, so I don't know why you're cutting me off. We're having a discussion. We're not in a race. Take a deep breath. So you agree with that? All of that's a fact, of what's going on in Saudi Arabia.
- That is a fact. - That is correct.
- At the same time, you believe that in our country, which we believe in none of
that in western civilization. I would not be able to wear this, I actually would not be
able to speak here tonight if I was in Saudi Arabia, okay. But you are now saying that in America we should open our boarders and let people that have that belief,
have that archaic belief, flood into our country,
we have a democracy. So, they would be able to
then vote laws into place. You think that we should allow that, and we should ignore
the fact that everything that they want
- Yes. - Is against our civilization
and what we believe. - Because you're assuming that people have a monolithic, unitarian view and that person has
only suffered to statism and Islamism and negative
communities and lack of-- - You're saying a bunch
of words but you're not-- - Have the same reasoning-- - Can I ask a question of you? Have many refugees do you
have in your apartment? - How many immigrants do you
have working in your company? - We're against it. We're against it, we believe in borders. - But you're a hypocrite.
- We're ideologically consistent.
- Why don't you bring in a lot of refugees? You wanna bring in the world's problems, bring 'em into western society. Bring in Yemeni's refugees. Here's the problem, you wanna open borders
until it might effect your lifestyle. - No, I want to open borders
because capitalistically, for the economy, for the free markets, it creates a new class, a group of people whose families are gonna be
better in the second generation. Herself, she changed her
personality from being a Laborer into a Conservative. - I was never a Labor Party-- Me? - Not you, the other lady.
- Oh, okay. - The lady that is next to you. People can change their
behavior, their attitudes, their skills, their values
through the presentation of new and better ideas. Why not give everyone a change-- - Why don't they do it
in their own country? - Because it's impossible to beat the opposition in Saudi Arabia. They kill you. They'll murder you. They attack you. - They're living in (mumbles). - So national identity matters. Ideas matter, therefore-- - Ideas matter, not nationality. - National identity is embedded in ideas. All men are created equal. All cultures are not created equal. - The culture is not an
intrinsic value of yourself. A person, individuals, can
have multiple cultures, and those cultures would
be better reflected within a free market of ideas of people. - We have that here now. If you have limitless immigration, you would have 100 million
people in the U.K. and the U.S.. which, first of all, would be
a drain on natural resources, public utilities. What you're proposing is-- - That's welfare state.
Eliminate it. - So radical.
- What you're proposing is almost more unrealistic, that the utopianism of Jeremy Corbyn. - Yeah, it's really radical. - Yeah, I'm a very capitalistic former CEO of three companies, blockchain
and bitcoin entrepreneur. - So you've got a lot of money. You should bring in 10 Yemenis refugees from the Yemenis Civil War? You've got money, do it! - It's not about funding. You're confusing welfare
state against other people. - How many people do
you have in your house, you're a hypocrite, is the point. - That's illogical, that's
absolutely illogical. Charlie, how could you
say those kind of things? - Because I lived the very
ideas that I espouse, you don't. - Of course I do, I'm capitalist. - How many refugees have
you brought to the U.K.? - How many immigrants are you
having in your own company? - I want controlled
immigration, you don't. - I don't want controlled immigration. - [Charlie] I live everything
I believe, you don't. - You think that government
sucks for everything-- - [Dominique] Yeah, next question now. - But not for immigration. - I am not an anarchist. You are an unrealistic anarchist utopian. - I am a capitalist. I give lectures on economic affairs. - If you have no control
over your borders, and you can't control the flow of people that are coming in to a single country-- - That's great.
- You've got to think about how big the U.K. actually is. We're already struggling
to house people as it is-- - The director of Institute
of Economic Affairs thinks that you can bring 400
million people into the U.K. - [Charlie] How's that working
in Germany, by the way? Is it working great in Germany? - [Man] I think it's going well. - You think it's working well in Germany? - Yeah, uh-huh. I think that immigrating
one million Syrian refugees in Germany is possible. - How 'bout Sweden?
- Germany's one of the rape capitals of Europe. You've seen it in Sweden as well, when you don't control you're
borders bad things happen. It doesn't work in Germany. People want Merkel to go. People didn't like Merkel,
they don't want her. - Advocating for the
majority is not a solution. Not because 99%--
- That's not democracy! - It does not make it correct. - Can you give me an example of where limitless immigration has worked? - Sure.
- No of course not. - Next!
- You live in Utopianism. I'm trying, you are anti-capitalist.
- Next. - Thank you for being wrong
tonight, we appreciate it. - No need to shout at him. He was just saying his piece. - Disagreements? - [Chloe] Civil disagreements. - That's fine. Disagreement? - [Man] Nope. - Oh then, sorry. Disagreements? - Hi there, it's a
pleasure to get the chance to ask you a question. So, Turning Point U.S.A.
is very, very pro Trump, and I just wanted to ask
you a question with regards to Trump and his popularity.
- Sure. - So, a lot of what made Trump popular is how he's appealed to certain
demographics who feel that their jobs are being taken away, so Trump's very
anti-globalist in that way. My criticism of that would be, and this is based off
me trying to understand more free market capitalism,
myself, in the past six months. While Trump might be doing
very, very well for the economy at the moment, are his policy decisions in terms of protecting jobs and having trade wars
with other countries, is that not, ultimately, going
to have a negative effect on Americans further down the line? In such that, so the argument
that Thomas (mumbles) might make is that
we've created globalism. You have the opportunity, we've lowered tariffs to make
sure that the average cost of basic food in shops is
lower for the average American. Or, if there're tariffs on say steel, to protect the steel
worker jobs of Americans in the United States,
is that not gonna have a massive impact, on say, the car industry when they're having to
pay substantially more for the tariffs? So, how do you feel about Trump's policy with regards what knock on
effect it will have on America in the future years? - So, one of the biggest misnomers is the idea that Trump
has started trade wars. If you actually look at
the deals he's signed, he's open and liberated more markets for U.S. goods to be sold. In order for there to be free trade, you just can't be able to
buy what you wanna buy, you should also be able to
sell your products as well. And one of the biggest rip offs is what the EU has done
to U.S.' ability to sell our goods and services
into the European Union. You ever notice when
you go through Germany, or you go through France, there's
very little American cars? 'Cause that's the tariffs
that the EU puts on Ford, Chrysler, Cadillac, so on and so forth. Trump has liberated
south east Asian markets to buy billions of dollars of coal, billions of dollars of Boeing 737 Jets, and the trade deals that
he's done has largely been in a negotiation tactic
to allow U.S. goods to be sold around the world. This is also why the U.S. is
now the largest net exporter of natural gas in the
world and actually exports more oil than we import. So, with China, it's a lot more complex. I actually support economic
warfare against China, I think China's the great enemy
of freedom around the world and that Russia is a sidebar
compared to what China's doing against free people all across the world. We must take them very, very seriously. Anything you wanna expand on that? - No.
- Okay. George, find someone
who disagrees with us. - [George] Who disagrees? - We got one here. - So it's more of a criticism
than a disagreement. So-- - Great.
- Tricked us. (crowd laughs) - So, from following most of you for a while on social media, I kind of agree with much
of what you have to say. My criticism is, if I was to be very unkind, I would say, at the
moment, what you amount, more than basically a
sort of protest movement, if I was being very unkind. Because the direction of
travel seems to be that the sort of left has
overtaken the institutions. So education, politics, the media. It's quite a long, hard
road back from that so, I can enjoy the Brexit vote, and I was quite pro Trump, but I'm not sure if the overall
direction of travel is in the correct direction. So, how do we change
the direction of travel and what are you guys doing to do that? - First off, what do you
mean by direction of travel? - The left seems to
comprehensively taken over the institutions of education,
politics, and media, and now there's identity
politics, dogma is, in fact, in private corporations. It's a long way back from there. What are you doing? What do we do? - What we're doing right here. I mean, the direction of travel
depends on what we all do. There is a silent majority out there who don't actually agree
with identity politics. They don't agree with far left Socialism. They don't agree with some of the madness they're seeing on their TV screens. But, if they speak out,
they're often demonized or targeted, and there's this
awful culture at the moment that if you do speak out for these ideas, which are actually quite mainstream ideas, I mean we're the majority
of public opinion that's being treated like a
minority and a sideshow on TV, we just need to be braver. Because if everyone who
really agreed with us told their colleagues tomorrow, everyone would be like, oh wow. Yeah, half the country's conservative, or more than half the
country's conservative. But nobody wants to say anything because there is this
culture of demonization if you come out with these beliefs. So, if we start here by doing this, and you all go away and
you have great debates with your friends on the
left and your family, and you have the courage to say that you do believe in these
things, that is the start. That is how this happens. And I just, I really, as well, if there's anyone in the
audience who disagrees, I just would like you to speak with us and to hear about what we believe because there's a lot of
misinformation out there about what being a conservative is, what believing in free markets is. Actually, because on our
side we're individualists, sometimes there's a lot
that we'll disagree on here. There's not a lot of group think, so it can be confusing
for people on the left. They find one conservative says this and that represents all conservatives. We're individuals, right, but, on the whole, we err on
the side of individual freedom and that is something
that is worth defending and we need to all go
out and do that tomorrow. - Yeah, I 100% agree.
(crowd applauding) But, to answer your question
which is like, yeah, this feels good but what is
this amounting to, I guess, is what your question is, right. I take exception to saying we're a protest when we actually hate protestors. I don't do protesting, I
want to engage in dialogue, and, for me, obviously,
I have been hyper-focused on the black community. (man talking off mic)
No, no, I know. I know you weren't attacking me. I want to differentiate
because it is important to say that we don't protest, right. We don't show up at
Brett Kavanaugh's hearing wearing pussy hats and
screaming and crying. So, for me, I've been hyper-focused
on the black community and you can say, okay,
what are you seeing? I see the black community
almost as an unused currency in America. We are an unused currency in America. We haven't been active in
the American dream whatsoever and, to me, imagine what America would be if every single minority no longer allowed the color of their skin to
dictate their decisions. If, instead of complaining, like Trump, what are we at, four million
people have dropped off of food stamps. One of my biggest things that I fight for is repairing the nuclear family. You know, mom, dad, daughter, son, having dinner at the table
which is something that the left actively works to destroy when they try to turn women into men and men into women 'cause that's exactly what
they are doing right now, make no mistake, right. This is what radicalized
feminism wants to do is destroy the family, right. (crowd applauding) Every thing should get
better if you can repair those sorts of things. Every thing should get better if you can repair the family,
if you can reset goals, if you can get people inspired, if you can tell people that
maybe, as opposed to protesting on a Monday morning at 8:00 a.m. about how you don't have a job, you should apply to some jobs, right. This is what we see in the States. So, we're talking about a cultural change and, yes, that does mean
that we have to create our own media and you see
that we're doing that. And, I think, for the first
time, we're starting to see conservatives come to
the forefront of culture which was a very necessary change because, at least in our country, almost 90% of every thing
that's on TV is leftist. There's nothing.
- Here too. Right, here as well. There is nothing for conservatives and what we're talking
about with better ideas is creating what will, in
turn, be a better economy and a better society with
strong men, strong women, and strong families and
some sanity in the dialogue of debate of political discussion which disallows the government to come in and be overreaching and
remove our freedoms. So, I think what you'll
see in the next 10 years, shorter than that, my plan is for 2020, I want to see black
Americans break free by 2020. It's a lot of really big
changes that are going to save western civilization. - Who's got the mic? Got a disagreement? Yes, no? - Got a great beard. (laughing) - I'm the chairman of the
local conservative party right here so welcome
to my part of the world. - Thank you.
- Thank you for having us. - Woo!
- Leyton and Wanstead, which is my constituency, was Winston Churchill's constituency. I'd also like to point out
if you see so many areas here are still empty, this area
took the highest bombing of any part of Britain
in the second world war. This was destroyed here
and we rebuilt our country 60, 70 years ago. When I was a student, I mean
this is a long time ago, we had Margaret Thatcher as our leader. (crowd applauding) The problem is right now, the leadership of the conservative party are not conservatives. - Yes! - Hear, hear.
(crowd applauding) - [Man] Woo! - They are quite happy to go
along with the censorship. They're quite happy to
put all these rules, really, they're just labor party light. So, the question is what
can you do about it? (mic screeching) And let me tell you what we need. I've got a loud enough voice.
(crowd laughing) In my time, we didn't have microphones. We had to shout. - [Man] Yeah. - What we need locally is young
people to get out and canvas because labor has 10 times as many people on the street canvassing
for elections as we do. We just don't have the numbers. If we have the numbers, we
could do so much better. So, what I'm advising people to do, and I don't know how many
of you are in East London, or wherever you are, but
join up in your local parties and change them because
numbers make a difference. Membership of the
conservative party is tiny and it needs your support
and it needs your numbers and you can change things. (crowd applauding)
- Well said that man! - And as for the BBC,
don't pay your license. Disconnect your TV. You don't need it. Do not pay! (crowd applauding) And there's one last point, I've also got my American fiance too. (crowd applauding) - Did you find a disagreement? - Disagree? You disagree? - You disagree over here? Far right. (crowd laughing) - [Man] We're not far right,
that's the point, yeah. - They're far left. - Hi there. So, we're a couple of students from the London School of Economics and I just wanted to
ask, so you mentioned-- (booing)
- Hey, be nice! - It's obviously o
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