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Charlie Kirk and David Webb Discuss Why Millennial Men Rely on Parents More Than Women
Charlie Kirk joins David Webb on Fox Business to examine a striking survey revealing that seven out of ten millennials need financial help from their parents, with men depending on the bank of mom and dad far more than women. From groceries to vacations, rent to student loans, the gender gap in financial independence is staggering. Kirk and Webb explore what happened to millennial men, the cultural shifts that may have contributed to this phenomenon, and whether changing definitions of masculinity and femininity have created unintended consequences. Kirk also discusses the?eater phenomenon from Japan, the rise of third-wave feminism, and why too many young people are pursuing four-year degrees instead of trades and entrepreneurship.
The Millennial Gender Gap in Financial Independence
A new survey has revealed a troubling trend: seven out of ten millennials require financial assistance from their parents, with men relying on the bank of mom and dad significantly more than women. Fox Nation host David Webb breaks down the numbers, which show stark differences across multiple expense categories. For groceries, 40 percent of men receive parental support compared to just 23 percent of women. For vacations, 36 percent of men versus 17 percent of women. For rent, 33 percent of men compared to 15 percent of women. Even for student loans, 32 percent of men depend on parents while only 14 percent of women do the same.
Webb questions what has happened to millennial men, noting that his father taught him that work would get him where he needed to be and allow him to afford the things he wanted later in life. He suggests that too many young males are no longer acting like men in the traditional sense, though he's careful to distinguish this from the toxic masculinity arguments made by the left.
Cultural Shifts and the Feminization Question
The conversation turns to whether men have been feminized to the point where their masculinity has disappeared. Interestingly, Webb notes that it's actually women who are stepping up to the plate financially. He acknowledges that women typically mature faster than men at younger ages, which gives them an advantage in making logical decisions, while men tend to catch up later.
However, both Webb and the host agree that something fundamental has changed in the culture. The Great Recession hit male-dominated jobs particularly hard, with construction and manufacturing bearing the brunt. While these sectors are recovering, there seems to be something else at play. Young men may feel boxed in, caught between traditional roles and new expectations in a changing society.
Webb argues that the culture has turned men into the enemy in some cases, creating a second-class status for masculinity. He recalls growing up when his father worked, his mother took care of the house, and his father was considered a man simply because he was a provider who kept a roof over their heads. That traditional role has been shattered, and rather than creating true equality, Webb suggests that some have turned the system upside down, pushing men down to raise women up rather than allowing women to advance organically.
Charlie Kirk's Perspective on the Data
Turning Point USA founder and CEO Charlie Kirk joins the conversation to provide additional context. Kirk points out that when you examine the data closely, more than 50 percent of college graduates are now women, and most doctorate degrees awarded in recent years have gone to women. Furthermore, women in their twenties living in major American cities actually earn far more than their male counterparts in the same age group.
Kirk explains that as women move into their thirties and forties, some voluntarily choose to exit the workforce to have children and raise families, which is when men typically rise in the corporate ladder. He notes that some on the left try to use statistics to claim there's a gender wage gap, but when you account for education, work experience, and other factors, the gap nearly disappears altogether.
The data shows that men are actually doing worse in their twenties than women, which is precisely the question at hand. With student loans, for instance, 32 percent of men rely on parents for help compared to only 14 percent of women. Women are finding ways to get jobs, pay their bills, and avoid living in their parents' basements.
The Grass Eater Phenomenon and Cultural Trends
Kirk introduces the grass eater phenomenon that occurred in Japan, where young men lost focus, played video games, and lacked hope for the future. Many believe this same phenomenon is happening in the United States, with psychological factors contributing to men's declining performance.
Kirk suggests that the rise of third-wave feminism has become more about hating men than empowering women. He emphasizes that it is possible to empower women without hating men, but that message seems lost in current cultural discussions. Male college graduates are not being given the same direction they should receive, and Kirk believes too many men are going to college when they shouldn't be.
The Case for Trades and Entrepreneurship
Kirk argues that too many people in general are pursuing four-year college degrees when trades offer equally viable paths to success. Electricians, plumbers, carpenters, HVAC technicians, and entrepreneurs are somehow being thought of as less dignified when they're just as important, if not more important, than jobs that require college degrees.
He commends the Trump administration for addressing this issue and promoting alternative career paths. The fundamental question remains: whether you're a man or woman, if you're a provider who puts a roof over your head and food on the table, that should be seen as a positive achievement. The conversation concludes with both Webb and Kirk emphasizing that being a provider, regardless of gender, deserves recognition and respect in society.
Video Transcript
[00:00] [Music]
[00:01] it was a new survey finding that seven
[00:04] out of ten Millennials need financial
[00:05] help from their parents that's not news
[00:08] per se but here's the thing men
[00:11] particularly men they're cashing into
[00:13] the bank of mom and dad a whole lot more
[00:16] here to this desk Fox Nation hosted
[00:18] David Webb David shares of adults early
[00:22] adults and millennial men and women who
[00:24] get support from their parents groceries
[00:27] men forty percent women twenty three
[00:29] percent vacations I mean I'm not sure
[00:31] why you're gonna vacation me I'm running
[00:32] 36 percent 17 percent rent 33 percent 15
[00:37] percent student loans 32 percent 14
[00:39] percent what's going on what millennial
[00:41] men well two of those things you just
[00:43] said why are you giving you kind of
[00:45] quipped why am I going why are you going
[00:46] on vacation if you don't have money and
[00:47] what about the student no what are the
[00:49] decisions you're making that put you
[00:51] there look something we're gonna say
[00:53] sexist but guys what happened to the
[00:56] alpha male fight to get ahead in life
[00:58] make the right logical decision you can
[01:01] get to some of the things you love later
[01:03] on the things my father taught me what
[01:05] is he gets gonna get you there so you
[01:06] can afford to do and do what else you
[01:08] want to do when you get there problem is
[01:10] we've got too many kids raised and males
[01:13] are no longer frankly acting like men
[01:15] and in a good way acting like men well
[01:19] that gets into the toxic masculinity
[01:21] argument but you didn't feminized the
[01:23] point where your masculinity is gone
[01:24] it's all so you're saying feminizing in
[01:26] it's the women who are actually stepping
[01:28] up to the plate so is that the wrong
[01:30] word for it is a different way to
[01:32] describe that well look that's the left
[01:33] word master toxic masculinity they love
[01:35] that little cover phrase look women
[01:37] mature typically faster than men at a
[01:40] younger age and I think that gives them
[01:42] a good advantage in that they're making
[01:43] more logical decisions men catch up a
[01:47] little bit later we were all young once
[01:48] I know me a lot longer than you you make
[01:51] those decisions in your 20s okay so so
[01:54] you don't think but something has
[01:55] changed though right and then in a
[01:57] culture the longer-term ramifications of
[01:59] something like this because you know
[02:01] listen we understand that the Great
[02:02] Recession was tough on tougher on
[02:04] male-dominated jobs right construction
[02:07] manufacturing those things are coming
[02:08] back but there's something else that
[02:10] feels like and I feel like maybe some of
[02:11] these young guy
[02:12] are boxed in you know and from what you
[02:16] called you know traditional roles to
[02:18] what they think their roles may be in
[02:19] this sort of new set of circumstances
[02:21] could that be held hurt that is a big
[02:23] part of this Charles the culture has
[02:25] changed and not always in a good way
[02:27] man they need to remember that they have
[02:29] to think like men that which means by
[02:31] the way you don't go against women but
[02:34] you recognize your role in life and the
[02:35] cultures not turn men into being the
[02:37] enemy they've turned men some I'm not
[02:40] saying all I've turned men into me in
[02:42] the enemy in the second class when I
[02:43] hear you it reminds me when I was
[02:45] growing up it was an old-fashioned kind
[02:47] of thing where my father worked my
[02:49] mother took care of the house and he was
[02:51] considered quote a man because we had a
[02:53] roof over our heads he had a car
[02:55] provider as a provider that traditional
[02:58] role people are saying that's shattered
[03:00] that doesn't exist anymore instead of
[03:02] turning it upside down which is what
[03:04] some want to do why don't you do it the
[03:06] right way which is women of advanced or
[03:08] in the boardrooms they're on the
[03:09] construction site they have every right
[03:12] to be there and they're doing a good job
[03:13] of it but when you turn it upside down
[03:15] and you push men down to raise women up
[03:18] you're not really going for equality let
[03:20] women in advanced men have been
[03:22] depressed to some degree not all of them
[03:24] but the majority of men are taking care
[03:26] of their business though that what
[03:27] you're saying is it's so long overdue
[03:29] that you have to do that in other words
[03:31] this should be a concerted effort to
[03:33] elevate women and if you have a woman in
[03:36] a man I think right now in the S&P 500
[03:38] less than 10 CEOs or women so they're
[03:41] saying this should be a concerted effort
[03:43] that if you have they're equally squit
[03:45] skilled to bring the woman up to make up
[03:47] for 50 or 100 years of disadvantage and
[03:50] oppression or sex absolutely not you
[03:52] don't make people equal by creating
[03:54] false inequality what you do is you
[03:57] continue advance the roles of women
[03:59] naturally organically and based on their
[04:02] capability you don't depress one to
[04:04] raise the other that creates a next
[04:06] level inequality well let me bring in a
[04:08] millennial male that we both known at
[04:10] Meijer
[04:10] he's a turning point USA's founder and
[04:12] CEO Charlie Kirk Charlie we're having
[04:15] this discussion because the numbers are
[04:17] really astounding they really are the
[04:19] differences between men
[04:21] men and women men are getting 40% of
[04:24] them are getting help on groceries or as
[04:26] their women only getting 23% the numbers
[04:29] are shocking what happened to millennial
[04:31] men is this something temporaries is it
[04:33] is this a different change what's going
[04:36] on when you look into the data it's
[04:39] interesting actually more than 50% of
[04:41] college graduates now are women most of
[04:44] the doctorate degrees 15 out of 16 in
[04:46] the last year's were women actually
[04:48] women in their 20s in the major cities
[04:51] in America earned far more than men in
[04:53] their 20s now as they move into their
[04:56] 30s and 40s as some women make the
[04:59] choice voluntarily to exit the workforce
[05:02] to have children and raise a family men
[05:04] will then rise in the corporate ladder
[05:06] appropriately but unfortunately some
[05:08] people on the Left try to demagogue
[05:10] these statistics and this data to try to
[05:12] say that there's a gender wage gap and
[05:13] you actually look at the data
[05:15] when you count education when you count
[05:17] work experience and you factor all those
[05:18] in it nearly disappears altogether right
[05:20] and your point is exactly right Charles
[05:22] is that there is it there is a pro
[05:24] there's some data here it actually shows
[05:25] that men are doing worse in their 20s
[05:27] than men and women are then that's the
[05:28] question I'm asking because I know the
[05:30] traditional debate and that's another
[05:32] perhaps topic but in the sense that even
[05:34] with student loans 32 percent of men
[05:37] rely on mom and dad to help them out
[05:39] with that we're only fourteen percent of
[05:40] women so the women are getting out there
[05:42] they're finding a way they're getting
[05:43] jobs they're paying their bills on their
[05:46] own they're not staying home with mommy
[05:47] and daddy in the basement listen I don't
[05:50] know if you guys know the grass eater
[05:52] phenomenon that occurred in Japan many
[05:54] think it's happening in this country
[05:56] were just young men have lost focus you
[05:59] know they kind of planned these video
[06:00] games don't have this much hope is there
[06:03] sort of another psychological parts of
[06:05] this that that Charlie that you see
[06:07] because you talk to these kids all the
[06:09] time well look I will say that there is
[06:13] a a cultural trend and I think this new
[06:15] unfortunate rise of third weighed
[06:17] feathered way feminism is much more
[06:19] about hating men than empowering women
[06:21] and it isn't it is possible to empower
[06:24] women without hating men that is
[06:26] possible and you know men at least in
[06:28] recent college graduates that are males
[06:30] unfortunately are not given the same
[06:33] sort of direction that I think they
[06:35] should be
[06:35] and I think there's too many men
[06:37] actually going to college there's too
[06:39] many people in general going to
[06:40] four-year college where the trades the
[06:42] electricians the plumbers the carpenters
[06:44] the HVAC and the entrepreneurs are
[06:46] somehow being thought of as less
[06:47] dignified when in reality they're just
[06:50] as important if not more important than
[06:52] some of these other jobs learning but
[06:53] somehow I put on a pedestal and I think
[06:55] the Trump administration has done a
[06:56] great job of talking about it and before
[06:57] you came on that we were talking about
[06:59] it just the idea at one point no matter
[07:00] what you're a man or woman if you were a
[07:02] provider the fact he had a roof over
[07:04] your head food in your belly was always
[07:06] seen as a positive
[07:07] David Charlie thank you both very much
[07:08] appreciate it all right
[07:11] finding that trumps North American
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