Charlie Kirk and Erika Kirk on Biblical Marriage, Submission, and Raising a Conservative Family

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[00:32] hour episode for you today. My wife joins us. Erica Kirk, the beautiful, legendary Erica. I love you so much. I

[00:39] love you. You're my best friend. Welcome to the Charlie Kirk show. Thanks, babe. I'm stoked. So, we It's good to be back.

[00:44] It's been a while. We have asked the audience for questions. Yes, they had they came up with some great ones. Well,

[00:49] there were some not so great ones, too, that Daisy had, too. There were some X-rated ones, too, weren't there, Daisy?

[00:55] Yeah, we Yeah. Not good. Not Not radio appropriate. Got it. Not appropriate for

[01:01] anybody. It was I don't know. All right. So, we are taking your questions and

[01:06] hopefully we'll be able to answer any thoughts that you have. Great. Do you want to take the You choose the first

[01:12] one. I'll pepper in the next one. All right. There's a few of them. Um, well, this one's easy. How long have

[01:19] you been married and when did you know it was time to get married? We've been married since 2021. Mhm. engaged 2020. So it be four

[01:27] years. Four years. We laugh about this because our dates are so messed up because of babies. Meaning there's so

[01:33] many dates to remember. Mhm. I know. I get all the anniversaries. Anniversaries

[01:39] G like kids birth birthday. May 14th, you know, August 23rd. How did we So

[01:45] we've been married for How did you know it was time to get married? I mean almost four years in May. Proposed and

[01:51] she said yes. How did we know? We just you just know it's also what don't waste

[01:56] your time, right? Don't waste your time. And plus, we are ready to start our life

[02:01] together. That's right. Okay, that was an easy one. That's easy. You pick one.

[02:07] Who is more conservative and why? Erica. Yes. By far. Not even close. I am a

[02:15] moderate compared to Erica. Andrew always jokes that once you got married to me, you got more bass. That's true.

[02:22] That is true. No, Erica is very conservative and um Yeah, I I was raised

[02:28] Well, yes, you have a great mom. Great mom. My grandparents were amazing. Fiercely

[02:35] rightwing. Yes. My grandfather was an immigrant from Sweden and fought in

[02:41] World War II and the Korean War. Yeah.

[02:46] And he got the Silver Star, the Bronze Star, and knited by the King of Sweden. And he was always super far right. Do

[02:53] you think having kids made you more conservative? 100%. Which I didn't think was possible,

[03:00] but 100%. Absolutely. And do you think And a better wife. Mhm. And a better wife. Do you think that uh a lot of the

[03:07] fact that kid that young women are liberals because they don't have kids? Usually typically young women are

[03:14] liberals because they don't have kids. I'm asking. Yeah. No, I wouldn't say that because I have

[03:20] some friends who are still not married and don't have kids and they're conservative and they're finding it hard

[03:26] to find a mate. But if you're saying traditionally speaking like the women who don't have

[03:34] kids are more left-leaning because they choose not to have kids. That's a whole different topic. Yeah. Whole different

[03:40] topic. They consider kids to being a nuisance, a burden, a burden, a nuisance. Um, but no, it's made and but

[03:47] also too, you have to understand and that also goes back to how did you know it was time to get married?

[03:52] Understanding your biblical role as a wife and a mother and knowing that

[03:58] you're ready to step into that motherhood, that being a wife and that type of era of your life, if you will.

[04:06] So, uh, here's a good one. What traits should conservative women be looking for

[04:11] in men and vice versa?

[04:17] I know one of the questions deals with Do you want to I was going to go off one of the questions that talked about the

[04:22] apps, but I think women for looking for their future spouse

[04:29] needs to hone in on the fact is he going to lead you closer to Christ or further

[04:36] away. Make sure you're equally yolked. That's so important. uh make sure that

[04:42] you are not looking for a man who or you know the men that are just

[04:49] they're grabbing the lowhanging fruit meaning on the apps. Women get upset

[04:54] when they go on a date with a guy they found on an app and all of a sudden they ghost them or all of a sudden they're just not communicating with them

[05:00] anymore. To me it's because the guy didn't have to hunt for them. Not saying

[05:06] they have to hunt for a woman, but they do have to seek out a wife. And since they didn't have to, they made it so

[05:12] easy on an app to just press a button. It It's just a number in their

[05:17] head. Like, you want to be so much more than I'm not saying apps are bad. I mean, they're not the greatest thing.

[05:22] I've had friends who did find their significant other on an app, but the likelihood, it's like the lottery. the

[05:28] likelihood of you finding your future husband or wife on an app is a lot less

[05:34] likely to happen. So that to say I I'm so blessed. It's so hard

[05:41] because I I literally won the jackpot with my husband. Vice versa. Um that's

[05:47] really hard. I I will say uh women should look for men that have self-control

[05:54] and men should look for women that are willing to submit which is basically a non-feminist woman right but the whole

[06:02] topic of submission becomes that word really lights people on fire I don't it's biblical I know I mean women it's

[06:10] beautiful marriage in the right context is so beautiful because your husband will give up anything and everything for

[06:16] you in a healthy manner They will literally love you and honor

[06:22] you and cherish you um above all and put

[06:27] all the noise aside and focus on wife, children, family. Daisy says there were

[06:32] quite a number of questions on submission. So dive more into that. Okay. For me as a wife, my biblical role

[06:42] is to be the helpmate to my husband.

[06:47] That does not mean I'm less than you and that does not mean that I am above you.

[06:53] Thank goodness. I love that you lead our home. I love that you um are such

[07:00] a you are so intentional with your faith and you are so intentional with just how

[07:06] you are as a father and a husband. But as a a wife, I am to quote unquote

[07:11] submit to you, which is a beautiful word by the way because that's the order of

[07:16] how it's supposed to go. And God will bless that. I am not to try and rival

[07:24] you. We're on the same team. You we compleimement each other. The the body,

[07:31] an eye is supposed to be an eye to see. It's not You can't expect an ear to see. There's certain things within the body

[07:37] that operate how it's supposed to be. Similar to marriage, I am the wife. I am in charge of certain things. Guardian of

[07:44] the home, helping with the children, help that is so I can make it easy for my husband to do what he needs to do.

[07:51] There's a balance there. It's not. And then you get into the people who are saying, "Well, my husband's abusive." That's not what we're talking about.

[07:56] We're talking about the beautiful, beautiful sacred marriage of

[08:01] when you are at the altar, you become one with your spouse. And the problem is is that I feel as if some women after

[08:09] they have children, they lose that fire that they got at the altar, that fiery

[08:16] spirit of this is the man I've been praying for, and they they get burned out because of the kids or because of

[08:23] circumstances. And then it's like submitting to my husband that sounds exhausting. It's supposed to be

[08:28] liberating. It's supposed to be freeing. You are in charge of what you're in charge of. Your husband's in charge of what he's in charge of. And it's

[08:34] supposed to be a beautiful marriage of a teamwork and symbolic within biblical

[08:39] marriage and symbolic within how how God and Jesus and and everything just your

[08:46] whole faith is supposed to operate. Um so submission's a beautiful Yeah. It says submit as as Christ submitted that

[08:55] submit to your husbands as I have to look at the exact verse, but well husbands Yeah. Oh, husband. Yeah.

[09:02] Husbands submit to Christ. Ephesians 5. Yeah.

[09:07] Uh I I I mean I've never found obviously any problem with it, but do you think that most me that most women struggle

[09:14] with it? Here it is. Yes. Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ. This submits that both husband and wives are called to serve and prioritize each

[09:20] other's needs. Do you think that most most women struggle with it because of a

[09:26] kind of feminist mentality that has seeped in? Yeah. because I feel as if Christianity

[09:34] in itself has become semi feminized from the

[09:39] standpoint of I know we've talked about this before, you know, the Pinterest Christianity with the little flowers all

[09:46] over the beautiful scripted font and like making the Bible feminine and it's

[09:54] it's not. It's a beautiful

[10:00] beautiful not even a sto I mean it is a story but it's a beautiful book on how

[10:05] to live your life and it and it has nothing to do with being feminine or being masculine. It's all about Jesus.

[10:12] It's all about God. It always leads you back to God and always leads you back to how you're supposed to live your life

[10:17] biblically. Um but yeah, women I think are offended by by that because they feel as if um it

[10:25] makes them lesser than they are, which it makes them feel like they don't have the choice or the voice that they need

[10:31] to have in order to be quote unquote liberated. But that's the exact opposite when you're in a biblical marriage. Um

[10:37] you are supported and you're loved and your viewpoint is just as important. Um

[10:43] but you have to let your husband lead. Do do you hear a lot of struggle with that that topic of submission from from

[10:50] women you talk to? Yes and no. Yes, from the women who are

[10:56] not strong Christians uh who are just more of in the world trying to figure

[11:03] out and navigate their marriage based on that standpoint. Um but I think it goes

[11:09] back to what you were saying. The men need to be prepared to take on that role. That's not a light role to to

[11:17] carry being the leader of the home. So I think what happens is men who aren't

[11:23] prepared for that season of life, they leave the metaphorical pants on the ground. And so the women come in and put

[11:29] those pants on because they feel like I have to be this role. I have to play this role and I need to be the provider

[11:37] or I need to. And also too, I think mom guilt falls into it too of like I'm not

[11:43] providing for my family if they worked in the workforce prior and now they're a stay-at-home mom, which is a huge blessing to to have that opportunity to

[11:51] raise your babies like that. I think that they feel as if they're comparing their season to other people's. And so

[11:57] that's where I think um you know, you get the moms and wives that are not

[12:03] wanting to submit. But I think the husband needs to always be in a position of understanding his biblical role as

[12:08] well for that to all you know mesh together. And even even if even if the husband understands it and and reminds

[12:15] his wife or the wife reminds the husband like let's pray together. Let's reenter our relationship in marriage um to make

[12:21] it healthy and Christ centered. It's important. You pick one. Okay. I I could also talk about more of

[12:28] what women should be looking for in or men should be looking for in women, but you can We kind of talked about that

[12:34] though. Yeah, I know. What? Yeah. What traits should conservative? What should be? This is

[12:40] one from uh that someone just emailed us in freedom charliekirk.com. Oh, really? Uh Erica, do you ever get hate from

[12:48] Charlie's work? How do you handle it, Charlie? Do you ever uh feel guilt or do

[12:53] you ever deal with guilt when Erica gets hate? No, I I don't.

[12:58] I honestly this is so I God I this is how I know God made us for each other

[13:04] because anytime I do get quote unquote hate it's the same stuff you get like the I don't even want to say it's not

[13:10] even worth saying it or repeating the things that were called or the names that were called but yes I do I've lost

[13:19] family members I've lost friends but I actually am kind of grateful that that's happened because God has pruned my life

[13:24] in a way where I am surrounded in a circle now by people who love us, support us, pray with us, encourage us,

[13:31] small mighty circle. And that's what I would much rather have, a small mighty circle than a massive one. It's the people that you know that you can trust

[13:37] and pour into. And yes, do I get hate? Bring it on. Exactly. I'll have a I'll

[13:43] have a uh a a velvet steel spine by the end of end of my life. So, bring it on.

[13:50] I have nothing to fear. Uh yeah. I mean, look, we we get a lot of hate. We get a lot of death threats, but it's just part

[13:56] of life. It is. It makes you stronger, right? And honestly, if you are out there and you aren't getting a lot of hate, then what are you doing? Well,

[14:02] yeah. Satan's not You're not doing anything that bothers. You're just being boring. You're probably honestly doing the bidding of the enemy, right? No,

[14:11] it's true. Okay. Uh, let's see. Emails freedom charliekirk.com. Lots of questions coming in from you guys. You

[14:17] want to do the dating app thing? You have Yeah, I mean, I kind of touched on it. I Yes and no. Oh, I used to have

[14:23] stronger ones, but I don't think as many people are on them anymore. Difference than like dating apps and like dating services are those two different I hear

[14:29] dating services are awful. I hear that the ones that is very pro like dating

[14:34] apps and services. He always was. I mean, his thought is more options the better. Yeah, but how lazy does that

[14:41] make the man to be able to be to they're presented a binder of women and they're like like a Mitt Romney binder full of

[14:47] women. Do you want a brunette? Okay, let's go down this Manila folder. Women

[14:53] are are becoming notoriously pickier than men though, right? It's a big problem. They have a CVS receipt length

[15:01] checklist of what they want. There is a growing theme that women if women are

[15:06] actually grading, they say they're unhappier with the dating pool right now than men. I could see that. They say,

[15:14] and and part of it, by the way, is incredibly superficial. But are men unhappy with the dating pool of women? Not as unhappy as women.

[15:21] I think women, you know what's interesting? Someone superficial. They say men aren't attractive. But I know, but I'm thinking about all of the way

[15:27] how we grew up of how romanticized they made you finding your your future

[15:36] spouse. Like you're going to be so in love. You're going to be swept up and these flowers are going to be flying

[15:41] around you and you're going to be so like butterflies in your stomach. And so I feel as if when people don't feel that

[15:47] immediately, they're like, "Oh, this person's not the right one." Or they're just I don't know. I think they're

[15:52] caught up in what they're supposed to that just I mean, is there like is there like a Christian Tinder? Does that

[15:59] exist? I don't know. You have an ad for it. Well, it's like a matchmaking service, I think. I don't know if

[16:06] there's a Christian Tinder, but match matchmaking services, I heard, are not the best. No good. Yeah. Oh, it's called

[16:12] Christian Mingle. I don't think they're a sponsor of our our thing, right? No. Isn't there like Farmers Connect too for

[16:18] Farmers? Yeah. No, I think there's like a far There's like Mormon Mingle, too. There's Mormon Mingle. Yeah. Yeah. Know,

[16:24] there's definitely Yeah, Don probably knows all about it.

[16:29] Not anymore, but Yeah, I was going to say not taken. Terrell and the gang probably know all about it. No, I think

[16:36] Mingle. I think there's Mormon Mingle. Yeah, there's also Yeah, it's farmersonly.com. That's a thing. So, you

[16:43] how do they check to make sure? I guess you have to submit that you have a farm. You have to show a video of yourself throwing hay around. Are you serious? I

[16:50] don't know. Uh, it says single in the country. Oh, there. There's no way this is ever abused.

[16:56] I wonder if if like a woman is like, you know what, I want that farm life. And so she gets some chickens in the backyard

[17:03] and then shows herself cultivating her her many.

[17:10] No, I think there there definitely is Mormon mingle. There's something of that variety.

[17:19] Okay. But asks for a dating service. I just You know what? Ask your local

[17:24] pastor. I'm What you prioritize is what you get, right? I'm looking for my future spouse. you prioritize trying to

[17:31] find a spouse, you're much higher likelihood to find one. But as women, you need to take care of yourself in

[17:36] order to you can't be looking like Adam Sandler and expect that you're going to

[17:42] and men just figure out ways to make more money. I don't want to say it's not that hard, but if you work hard and apply yourself and obsess, you can make

[17:48] more money and you will be more like you say, stop spending money on alcohol, stop playing video games, invest in

[17:55] yourself, learn more, you know, be scrappier for a I don't want to say it's

[18:00] easy because it's not necessarily easy, right? But it's easy to not be poor if

[18:07] you were a man. That's you have to make a decision, a conscious choice to not have a a

[18:15] poverty mindset. But what about school debt? They should have gone to college because

[18:21] schol college is a scam. Yeah. I mean, look, I just men will find a greater

[18:27] pool of women if they increase their income, right? What's your favorite memory? Prek kids, post kids, going to

[18:35] Israel, definitely. That was amazing. I loved that being able to walk. Yeah,

[18:40] because you know when before I met you, when I last was when I went previously

[18:46] was with my mom on a pilgrimage and the whole time I was there, I was praying for my future husband. didn't know it

[18:51] was you and we were both in Israel at the same time. But anytime I could find a place to put a little piece of paper

[18:59] of a prayer in a hole in a wall, that was me. And that was that was me praying

[19:05] for you. And that and then I got to go back with you was surreal. How about post kids? I'd say Maine was

[19:11] pretty great. Jackson Hole was great. That one's tough. Post kids because every milestone with the kids is so

[19:17] special. um

[19:22] birthdays, seeing Gigi at dance class. Mhm. Just little things like that. She

[19:27] did the Trump dance, by the way. I don't even know if I told you that. I saw in dance class yesterday.

[19:33] We have lots of lots of questions. Email us freedom charlariekirk.com. How would you tell young married couples who are

[19:40] going to start having families to prepare slash ready their marriage for the changes that come with it? That's a

[19:45] great question. Okay. First and foremost, always remember to put your spouse first. Get premarital counseling.

[19:52] Premarital counseling. Put your spouse first. Sa save money. Save money. Oh,

[19:58] instead of investing in a bunch of clothes that they'll grow out of really

[20:04] quickly. They should put have a You know how people do honeymoon funds? Well, these are young married couples. Got it.

[20:10] Not single ones. Yeah. Okay. Uh Oh, no. That's good. Yeah. So instead of doing,

[20:17] you know, how they do the honeymoon fund, they should do a fund where it's overnight help if they don't have a family member to help them. I totally

[20:23] agree. I think that wedding directories, there's so much money wasted. Like, oh, I want a blender. I want a knife. I want

[20:31] And my experience, most people don't even use all that stuff. No, it should just be give us money. Just give give us

[20:38] money and it will be honeymoon fund or right save money fund. We did a

[20:43] honeymoon fund and it was great. Yeah. And it was special. It was totally special because those memories are way

[20:49] more important than So, how would you tell young married couples who are going

[20:54] to start having families to prepare ready their marriage for the changes that come with it? Yeah. Look, the the

[21:00] man has to I mean, I'll be very honest. The man has to start earning enough money where the the wife or the mom does

[21:07] not have to work. And if the man is incapable of doing that, well, then figure it out. become a man, right? A

[21:13] more tangible side for a female perspective. Make sure that you don't

[21:20] get so hyperfixated on the birth process once you're about to have a

[21:25] child. Like don't be so fixated and obsessed with I am going to have a child

[21:31] on my couch in my living room, free birth, no drugs, and then leave no room

[21:37] for God's will. If that totally does not happen because I know we had a birth

[21:42] plan and the only thing that went to plan on that birth plan was that we had a child. That's right. Everything else

[21:48] we had a great out the window. We had a great OB. May he rest in peace. Terrible story. So sad. So what young married

[21:54] couples look keep your keep your faith obviously first and

[22:00] try to identify any fleshly problems that you might be having having. So, if

[22:07] the wife might have a gossip problem or a spending money problem or the husband

[22:12] might have an alcohol problem or a pornography problem or a drug problem,

[22:18] don't welcome kids into the world. I shouldn't say you should always welcome kids in the world, but try to get those

[22:24] things settled before you enter kids into the world. So, I think um before we go to that next question, I think it's

[22:31] because you mentioned gossip. I think it's really important that women do

[22:37] not do not gossip to their friends about their husband

[22:42] because first of all, friends can be very unforgiving when it comes to certain

[22:48] things with husband. But what you talk about with your spouse behind closed doors needs to stay there, goes through

[22:56] one ear and literally ends at the other ear. And you do not share it. You do not

[23:01] repeat it. You have to continually invest in the confidence in one another

[23:06] that you're on the same team. You support each other. You love each other. You're not going to undercut each other. You're not going to sabotage one another

[23:13] unknowingly because you're trying to impress a friend that you have a husband

[23:19] that does XYZ. And wives do not compare your husband to other women's husbands.

[23:28] Like Hank does XYZ so well with a hammer. Well, my husband doesn't do

[23:35] that. Like do what your husband's good at someone else's husband might might not be good at. So just like love your

[23:42] husband. Love love him so much that and

[23:47] understand and hold in your heart that God has put you guys together for a reason to have a beautiful family and

[23:55] children are a blessing from the Lord. And don't forget your husband in the process. And don't forget your husband

[24:01] in the chaos of having kids. Now we can go to the next question. No, I totally agree. What What is the next Daisy you

[24:06] think sent it? Uh what should be the order when it comes to God, kids, and marriage? And

[24:12] why? I just kind of it's God first then marriage then. Mhm. Right. It is. You get to choose the

[24:20] next one. Um these are great questions. The study shows that married women women

[24:27] with kids are the happiest. Why do you think that is? I mean, it's just nature. I mean, just becoming a CEO of a shoe company is not going to give you

[24:33] happiness. Women have it so mixed up. You can have you can have a career after

[24:41] children. But if you try to have a career while you have your kids, you

[24:46] there is no such thing as balance. That is such a myth. Gigi gets those little

[24:51] monastery toys every month. And there's this one that has the buckets that balance. If I put something in one of

[24:58] those buckets, it's going to drop down. And if I try to balance them, both buckets are filled, which is not

[25:04] realistic. I can't spend half of the day doing one thing. I

[25:11] missed out half of that time with being with the kids. So like, you have to choose where your heart has to be fully

[25:19] with the home. You have to make that decision on your own. But you can always after your kids are in school or after

[25:26] they're in high school, you can always go back to work. You can always find a way to get back into the

[25:32] workforce. But if you miss those precious first few years, that is so

[25:38] hard to make up because memories are so much more important than an added paycheck. I just I I look it's it's how

[25:47] God has wired us and it's our nature which is to have children not just have a bigger bank account. Next question. Uh

[25:54] what means the most to Charlie coming home from the battlefield? What means most to Erica when Charlie is at home?

[26:02] I'm not quite sure I understand the question. I understand the question. Charlie will text me and say, "Keep things boring." Yes. So anyways, uh

[26:09] yeah, keep things boring so that he can be on the battlefield and not be mortified when he comes home. Uh this

[26:17] is a good one. How much did you guys discuss religion, finances, politics, how to raise children before getting

[26:23] engaged? If I could just chime in on one of them. Men, you should be completely in charge of finances. I totally agree.

[26:29] And your wife should have nothing to do with it. I'm I mean they they can have input, but you should release that

[26:35] burden from your wife and just take care of all the money. I have to say having to provide for my just as

[26:43] myself as a woman, having to provide for yourself, especially cuz when I was living in New York City, it all fell on

[26:49] me. It's exhausting. I love the fact that I can relinquish that role to my

[26:55] husband because he's so good at it, but relinquish it to him and say, "I trust

[27:00] you so much. I know you're going to help provide for our family." That is one less thing I have to not deal with. I've

[27:07] watched my mom have to deal with that while she had her own business and she was my mom and dad in one package cuz my

[27:14] parents got divorced when I was really young. But to be able to relinquish that to you is so liberating. and I can focus

[27:21] on other things that are way more important because that's your domain and I don't have to worry about it. And if

[27:27] you are marrying a man that is not capable of completely and totally

[27:33] handing the finances that and you should not marry that man. It will finances will break a marriage quicker than

[27:38] anything else. Period. That but what if he checks all of the boxes? He just is

[27:43] horrible at money and you're really good at money. Doesn't matter. Okay. Doesn't matter. I mean then then all of a sudden

[27:49] you're talking about a reverse I think. Then you're talking about very confused gender rules then then are you gonna be

[27:56] a stay at home dad? Is that basically what that that is? Okay. But then what about the women that are the ones that write the checks and do the

[28:03] bills and good luck? Yeah. I mean it can work. I'm sure it has. But I see those

[28:09] marriages careening for divorce quicker than anything else. Here's why. We as men are hardwired to produce for the

[28:16] family. We find meaning. We find purpose. Tucker would talk about this all the time. He would like, I'd have

[28:22] the worst day ever, but I'd know that today I'm paying for tuition. Like, today my kids tuition are being paid

[28:29] for. I can't pay. And for men, we find great purpose in being able to come back home being like, "We provided for all of

[28:35] this." Mhm. And hold on. I do not want to knock the stay-at-home dads. I do

[28:41] not. There are some who had to h to who to who temporarily have to switch that

[28:46] role. That happened to my parents a long time ago. Granted, again, they got a divorce, so that probably falls into

[28:52] your bucket. But I am an anthropologist, but my dad was a stay-at-home dad for a

[29:00] few years, and I got to say it was really sweet and really special. I was for but

[29:07] of course it's not an indictment of the morality of but if you're saying from the getgo I want to be a stay-at-home it

[29:13] is a imbalance it's an imbalance of nature and some people are able to balance are able to juggle imbalances of

[29:21] nature but your husband has to be the one that goes out into the world and

[29:27] builds and battles and comes home conquers comes home and is like this is my nest egg this is what I worked so

[29:33] hard for and the wife is like, "Welcome home, babe. Whatever you need." Financial burdens should not be brought

[29:40] into the concern of the wife. It just I I just it should Well, then it bleeds

[29:45] into the kids and the kids are like, "Oh, I can't afford to do this." Why am I being so firm on this? Because I know

[29:52] the number one reason why people cheat on their wives and why divorce happens is financial. It is number one. It is

[29:59] the number one thing. it start it collapses and breaks apart marriages more than anything else. And so if you

[30:05] have a husband that leads in it and it's it's not that again it comes easy to me

[30:11] but guys don't borrow money. You just start with that principle. You're not

[30:17] going to have any credit card debt. Now you can use credit cards just pay them off every month and you the only other debt that's acceptable is a mortgage

[30:23] payment. If you just start with that principle you're you're going to be in a much better spot. But how? What if the

[30:28] guy comes from nothing and doesn't know where to start? Then he

[30:34] shouldn't be getting married. Then he's a boy. Boys should not get married. I love

[30:41] you. I love you, too. But it's true. I mean, if you are not capable of providing for a wife or a family, then

[30:48] you should take some time before you get married. You got to figure yourself out. You got to get a skill. You got to get disciplined. You have to get There's a

[30:53] season for everything. Yeah. And I know that for some young girls out there or

[30:59] even older women who are still looking for their human, um, a season of waiting is to encourage

[31:06] you to just continue to trust God's timing. And if you're in a season of pruning, that's probably because God's

[31:12] trying to refine you. And if you're in a season of fruitfulness, then enjoy that

[31:18] and embrace that. the I I will I will add to that that men have a much longer

[31:25] horizon of waiting than women and what men need to get equipped for actually

[31:30] might not be as natural. Women can make very good mothers with almost no like training.

[31:36] It's just at 23 24 women can make good mothers. I don't know about that. That's hit or miss. Okay. Because some women

[31:43] will they they have to be equipped for it too and their hearts prepared for it or else they're going to stick their kid

[31:48] in front of Coco Melon. Cuckoo Melon. What is it? Coco Melon. What is it? Miss Rachel. Oh, her voice kills me. Those

[31:56] shows for hours. But they have to be prepared for it too. You have to again equally

[32:02] yolked, right? Equally yolked. Next question. How um how would you wait well for a

[32:09] spouse? First of all, this is more of like a

[32:14] health standpoint. Get your blood work done every six months. Don't have sex before you get married. Don't have sex before you get married. Um,

[32:22] really be intentional about growing down before you grow up and out. Meaning,

[32:28] make sure that your heart is so rooted in Christ. Make sure that you're reading the Bible every single day. Make sure

[32:35] that you're in a position where you're living your life that he has to seek God in order to even be able to touch the

[32:42] slightest bit of your heart. Um, and make sure that you are taking good care of yourself. Again, don't dress well.

[32:50] Don't try, you're not going to attract someone if you're not looking your best.

[32:57] Not saying you have to look like you're on a red carpet every single day, but take care of yourself. If you can't

[33:03] afford to get your nails and hair done, that's fine. There's still ways to make yourself look like you care. I'm not

[33:10] saying from a prideful standpoint, but take take be be grateful that God gave you

[33:17] the body he gave you. Be grateful that he he you're healthy. If you're not healthy, that you have doctors in your

[33:23] life to help get you there. Just constantly be grateful. There's always something to be grateful for. And just

[33:30] find a way to be able to get yourself in the proper mindset and headsp space of

[33:35] knowing that you are so intentional about this time and you're in a in a

[33:42] stream of significance rather than focusing on what everyone else has and you are in a position where when and if

[33:50] the man has sought you out and he's he's he will tell you I am intentional about this.

[33:56] I'm not trying to beat around the bush. I want to I want to date you and I want to marry you. When it's that type of

[34:02] guy, you will know and you'll be ready. You won't say, "Oh, I don't know about this." Like, you will be prepared. Just

[34:08] take take care of yourself. Take care of yourself. I agree. I think we have one more. Uh do you want to pick the last

[34:13] one? No, I want you to. Okay. Oh. Uh what do you think about

[34:20] schooling for kids? What are you planning on doing? We will be homeschooling, especially in the beginning. At first, I will be honest.

[34:26] At first I was horrified thinking I I am horrible at math and geometry, but I'm

[34:32] excited to some extent. I'm excited. And this is why I think that women lose a portion of their brain capacity after

[34:40] every single kid. It's because then you get excited to homeschool your kids and you get to relearn everything all over

[34:47] again and you're excited about learning about triangles and octagons and proper

[34:54] grammar. all over again because you have that brain space to do it and you're

[35:00] excited. So, we will be homeschooling. Plus, we want to travel with the kids. And plus, to be honest with you, I do not want to deal with uh kids going up

[35:07] to to either of our children and being like, "I hate you because of your father." Eventually, once they get old

[35:12] enough, they'll they'll get into school, right? Exactly. Sixth, seven, eighth grade maybe. But, Right. Especially for

[35:18] sports, too. We also travel a lot. But I I encourage everyone if you if you can homeschool and if you can't homeschool,

[35:25] I want I I would love to know the reason why. Or you can do pod schooling where you have a teacher come to your friend's

[35:30] house and you all kind of That's right. share share a teacher. I love you. I

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