Charlie Kirk and Julie Kelly on President Trump's Historic January Sixth Pardons and DC Jail Defiance

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[00:36] okay joining us now is Ben berquam and

[00:39] Eli crane they are outside of the DC

[00:42] goog president Donald Trump has Parton

[00:44] and commuted all these sentences yet the

[00:45] DC jail is refusing to release them this

[00:48] is not going to we're not going to put

[00:49] up with this there's going to be people

[00:51] that will be held accountable for this

[00:53] Ben walk us through the latest

[00:55] here hey Charlie uh yeah we're outside

[00:58] the the jail right now as you said as

[01:00] far as we know there's 21 inmates we're

[01:02] trying to get an update actually

[01:04] Congressman crane is on the phone with

[01:05] the Pio as we speak he's going to join

[01:08] us in just a second uh we've got a group

[01:10] of uh at least 50 people across the

[01:13] street that are out here including

[01:15] Ashley babbit's Mom Mickey uh and

[01:17] Suzanne Monk and a lot of these people

[01:18] that have been fighting this vigil for

[01:20] over 900 days 93 days president Trump

[01:25] announced the pardon he signed the

[01:26] pardons of all of these January Sixers

[01:29] and apparently the DC goog is still

[01:32] holding 21 of them we've got word that

[01:35] three or four are anticipated to be

[01:37] released any minute now but uh uh it's

[01:41] what's crazy Charlie is we still have we

[01:43] have we have prisoners that have been

[01:45] released from other states that are

[01:46] coming to join the vigil out here until

[01:49] all these guys are released they they

[01:50] were released at between midnight and

[01:52] 3:00 am they've had time to get down

[01:54] here to join us but we still have DC

[01:57] prisoners being held right now me uh

[02:01] okay so uh very quickly what is the

[02:03] excuse that they're giving I feel

[02:04] confident we're going to be able to get

[02:05] this done in the next 12 hours but we're

[02:07] not going to lie any paperwork delays

[02:09] we're not going to put up with this by

[02:10] the way uh any loved ones that still

[02:13] have people in prisons you can show up

[02:14] with the tweet that we did of a copy of

[02:16] the executive order that's it show a

[02:18] copy of the pardon and they have to

[02:20] facilitate the release what is going on

[02:22] here

[02:24] Ben

[02:26] yeah so the what we're being told is

[02:29] they didn't the person That was supposed

[02:30] to sign off on the releases was not here

[02:34] that's the that's the word that we're

[02:35] getting we haven't got confirmation from

[02:37] the jail we're not actually getting any

[02:39] word in fact if you want to just listen

[02:40] in on Eli for a second you'll hear a

[02:42] little bit of it we we we we we we want

[02:44] names of people because if they're going

[02:46] to defy the president's orders then you

[02:48] serve at the pleasure of the president

[02:50] as a federal employee we're not going to

[02:51] put up with this play time is over Eli

[02:53] what's going on we're live on air here

[02:55] uh it's Charlie Kirk Eli crane great

[02:56] from Arizona 10 out of 10 Eli give us a

[02:59] quick update

[03:00] hey Charlie uh thanks for having us on

[03:02] we're just down here at the DC jail um I

[03:05] just got off the phone with uh one of

[03:07] the public relations officers for the DC

[03:10] jail um you know who uh informed me that

[03:13] as soon as because they this dcgl is

[03:16] actually holding these prisoners on

[03:18] behalf of the US Marshals um because

[03:21] they're federal prisoners um they don't

[03:23] have any authorities to release them and

[03:25] once they receive

[03:27] documentation um Federal documentation

[03:29] from the US Marshals then they can go

[03:31] ahead and process these folks out that's

[03:33] what I was just told um and so we're

[03:36] going to continue to uh stay down here

[03:39] put pressure you know and um get as many

[03:42] answers that we can so that these guys

[03:44] this is BS We're not gonna put we're not

[03:46] put up with this first of all the US

[03:47] Marshals are not some sort of like ex

[03:49] they're not their own branch of

[03:50] government I must have missed article 8

[03:52] of the US Constitution where the US

[03:53] Marshals are their own part of no they

[03:56] serve at the pleasure of the president

[03:58] the president has given direct order

[04:00] and let this be a warning I hope they're

[04:01] listening I don't care if you're a US

[04:03] Marshal or a warden or the Bureau of

[04:04] Prisons you guys are defying the

[04:06] president you guys very well could be

[04:07] investigated for this you guys could

[04:10] that you guys could end up having

[04:11] criminal charges if you do not follow

[04:13] direct orders oh paperwork I don't know

[04:15] all this get you got to get them out of

[04:17] prison and by the way pardons can be

[04:19] delayed for a long time if you do not

[04:20] put the pressure on so Eli thank you for

[04:22] keeping the pressure on we really

[04:24] appreciate it and uh we need to make

[04:26] sure that we get uh These Guys released

[04:28] thank you I won't go into too much of

[04:31] the details here but I think I'll just

[04:34] mention this uh Julie Kelly and I were

[04:38] on the phone together with the president

[04:40] last week about this topic of January 6

[04:42] we won't say any more than that but we

[04:45] got Julie and I reconnected she has the

[04:47] president respect she knows this topic

[04:49] better than anybody else Julie welcome

[04:51] back to the

[04:52] program hey Charlie uh what an amazing

[04:55] day yesterday and thank you for your

[04:58] help with this historic decision

[05:01] courageous decision that the president

[05:03] made uh it's really amazing to see the

[05:06] videos on Act of people being released

[05:10] from federal prison after all these

[05:12] years so thank you and thank you to the

[05:14] president for including me in that

[05:16] process and uh I hope we can toast in

[05:19] person one of these days

[05:21] Charle yes and and Julie you deserve a

[05:23] lot of credit uh you were the the

[05:25] president was making his whole final

[05:28] decisions and uh you were very

[05:30] persuasive for him uh let's just put it

[05:32] that way so Julie let's recap for the

[05:35] audience what exactly was signed what

[05:38] are the details of this pardon educate

[05:41] our audience on that please so the

[05:44] pardon um as the president said during

[05:46] the signing ceremony last night is a

[05:48] full paron so that uh applies to close

[05:52] to now

[05:53] 1,600 j6 defendants there was a carve

[05:57] out there Charlie for 14 individual uals

[06:00] um whose sentences have now been

[06:02] commuted and those were all members or

[06:05] Associates of The Proud boys and the

[06:08] oathkeepers and I believe that he said

[06:10] that those cases will be reviewed also

[06:13] for pardons and I believe uh his final

[06:17] decision will be similar to what we saw

[06:19] yesterday pardoning those individuals

[06:21] many of whom were convicted of seditious

[06:24] conspiracy which is a terrorism statute

[06:27] usually reserved Charlie for real

[06:29] terrorists not political protesters so

[06:32] I'm sure the president will reach the

[06:33] same decision and then what's happening

[06:36] today Charlie there were several j6

[06:38] related Court proceedings in Washington

[06:40] scheduled for today including one case

[06:43] going to the jury for a verdict and you

[06:46] have the new DC us attorney Ed Martin

[06:49] who I believe that you know who is a

[06:50] friend of mine and he's already filing

[06:53] motions to dismiss those indictments and

[06:57] I know that judges were forced to do

[06:59] that today

[07:00] and boy I wish I was there to have seen

[07:02] those judges have to drop those cases

[07:04] that would have been another incredible

[07:08] moment and and so this is this is so

[07:11] profound and I hope everyone here

[07:13] understands what's going on is that the

[07:16] president could have done the water down

[07:18] version right he could have kind of gone

[07:20] halfway now the media is attacking they

[07:22] say oh well president Trump even

[07:24] commuted or paron people that were

[07:27] violent this is the important thing

[07:28] though the question is do you believe if

[07:32] the tree is rotten is the fruit also

[07:35] rotten can a rotten tree produce good

[07:37] fruit no talk about the due process

[07:41] violations that's really what we're

[07:42] getting at here is that these defendants

[07:44] did not have basic constitutional

[07:47] guarantees they were guilty until proven

[07:49] innocent pre-trial detention solitary

[07:52] confinement did not get access to

[07:55] adequate attorney attorneys they did not

[07:57] get the ability to examine evidence

[08:00] Julie it's not about that President

[08:02] Trump made a comment on the actions of

[08:05] what they did that day he was pardoning

[08:08] and commuting the process that's right

[08:11] explain please and Charlie that

[08:14] obviously was something you were very

[08:16] adamant about is emphasizing the uh lack

[08:19] of due process the constitutional rights

[08:22] violations at play uh in this

[08:25] prosecution so that is of course

[08:26] something that we added to the

[08:28] consideration and I know that the

[08:29] president himself is fully aware of what

[08:32] these prosecutors and judges have been

[08:34] doing for more than four years but I

[08:36] think the most egregious violation is

[08:39] that judges

[08:41] systematically uh for three years

[08:43] Charlie as we discussed denied every

[08:46] single change of venue motion filed by

[08:48] every j6 defendant arguing that they

[08:51] could still get a fair trial in a city

[08:54] entirely populated by democrats and not

[08:56] just Democrats Trump loathing

[09:00] radical left-wing Democrats who view the

[09:02] events of January 6th as they do compare

[09:04] it till 911 I have sat in some of those

[09:07] jury selections you cannot believe what

[09:10] the residents of Washington DC think

[09:12] about January 6th so they the judges

[09:16] would claim okay well we'll go through

[09:17] this wader process we'll really you know

[09:20] drill down into their political views

[09:22] about Donald Trump in January 6 no they

[09:25] didn't they didn't do that and so it

[09:27] resulted in the doj having this perect

[09:29] conviction rate after now almost three

[09:31] years of Trials so that right there is

[09:33] an indication that these J Sixers did

[09:36] not have their constitutional rights of

[09:38] an impartial jury uh going before an

[09:41] impartial jury and certainly the judges

[09:43] were a big part of that but also

[09:45] withholding Discovery Brady materials um

[09:48] exculpatory evidence concealing the uh

[09:52] use of not just FBI informants but other

[09:54] undercover Agents from numerous law

[09:57] enforcement uh agencies so

[09:59] there were so many things just

[10:01] systematically happening there uh that

[10:04] resulted in more than a thousand going

[10:06] to federal prison so I know that that

[10:09] was part of your strong argument not

[10:11] that we needed to again the president

[10:12] was on board but I think just developing

[10:15] the argument and the record for uh this

[10:17] extraordinary measure that he took

[10:21] yesterday there there were people not on

[10:23] his team his team has been excellent but

[10:25] in his orbit that we're saying do not do

[10:27] the widespread pardons is that Fair

[10:31] Julie yes absolutely um because to your

[10:34] point the easy won the lwh hanging fruit

[10:36] and I think what a lot of people thought

[10:38] was going to happen and CNN and the

[10:40] Washington Washington Post actually

[10:42] erroneously reported this a few hours

[10:44] before he issued that pardon is okay

[10:48] we'll just um just dismiss the counts

[10:51] pardon those who were convicted or

[10:53] accused of the four or five common

[10:55] misdemeanors which is still hundreds of

[10:57] people and then we'll go Case by case

[11:00] for the 300 or so with those Federal

[11:02] it's 111 charges assault interfering

[11:05] impeding certain officers so I think

[11:09] that's what everyone was sort of

[11:10] suggesting and you know this Charlie

[11:12] pressure from republicans in Congress we

[11:15] had US senators very strongly come out

[11:18] during Pam bandi's um confirmation

[11:20] hearing Tom Tillis and Lindsey Graham

[11:22] very unequivocally saying there should

[11:24] not be Pard for anyone accused of

[11:26] assaulting police so this was such a

[11:28] courageous

[11:29] decision by President Trump I really

[11:31] want to emphasize that this was not an

[11:34] easy thing for him to do but he did it

[11:36] because it's the right thing and he

[11:38] feels personally passionate about um

[11:41] restoring Justice and making these

[11:42] people

[11:44] whole it was an phenomenal Act of

[11:48] Courage a breathtaking Act of Courage

[11:52] and the other element of j6 news that we

[11:55] saw we don't have tons of time here

[11:57] Julie about a minute and a half so tease

[11:59] it out out is that in the morning every

[12:02] member of the j6 committee and their

[12:06] staff received a preemptive pardon from

[12:09] Joe Biden this one even took me by

[12:13] surprise what is going on

[12:15] here so he issued pardons for not just

[12:18] the members so Benny Thompson and Adam

[12:20] kininger of course Liz Cheney but the

[12:23] staffers so this would be the

[12:25] investigators I think they hired a dozen

[12:27] Federal former prosecutors Charlie to

[12:30] interrogate a thousand plus Witnesses

[12:32] mostly Trump White House employees

[12:34] they're all pardon but the real outrage

[12:36] Charlie is pardoning what I call the

[12:38] four j6 celebrity cops Mike fenon eolina

[12:43] ganel Harry Dunn and Daniel Hodes who

[12:46] not only committed perjury under their

[12:48] sworn testimony testimony during that

[12:51] first Hearing in July of 2021 they have

[12:54] showed up as victims and Witnesses in j6

[12:59] hearings and trials and sentencing

[13:01] begging judges to throw the book at J

[13:03] Sixers based on the lies about their

[13:06] injuries or what they saw or what they

[13:09] endured all four of them committed

[13:11] perjury multiple times and that is

[13:13] proven by the fact uh that Joe Biden has

[13:16] had to issue a pardon to exonerate them

[13:19] they caused arguably more damage uh to J

[13:22] Sixers then Liz Cheney and that

[13:24] committee really a Despicable move by

[13:27] Joe Biden on top of so many by the way

[13:29] Steve Bannon should get a full pardon as

[13:32] well of course he's out of jail but it

[13:34] expunges your entire record I'm

[13:36] confident he's going to get it but Steve

[13:38] Bannon should get and Peter Navaro uh

[13:41] for the record by the way Peter Navaro

[13:43] is working in the white house actually

[13:45] as a convicted Federal felon so we got

[13:47] to get rid of that one