Charlie Kirk and Tim Murtaugh Expose Biden's Pill Penalty Costing Americans 116 Million Life Years

[00:00] Joining us now is Tim Merrtto, who is

[00:03] the former uh communications director

[00:05] for Trump 2020 and also the Trump 2024

[00:08] senior adviser. Tim, great to see you.

[00:10] You have a unique premise and vantage

[00:12] point because you warned about so much

[00:14] of Biden's failures in the 2020 campaign

[00:17] and now we actually have to unravel so

[00:19] much of what we've inherited from Joe

[00:20] Biden. So, talk about some of the

[00:22] predictions you made that came true,

[00:24] some things that were even worse, and

[00:25] the work that now President Trump has to

[00:27] do to unravel this inheritance that that

[00:31] Joe Biden gave him. Yeah. Well, it's

[00:34] great to be with you, Charlie, and

[00:35] thanks very much for having me on. We

[00:37] did we tried to warn everybody in 2020

[00:39] what America would get itself into if

[00:41] Joe Biden became president of the United

[00:43] States. And and by God, we were right

[00:45] about almost all of it. I mean, you may

[00:47] remember that he ran what everybody was

[00:48] calling the basement strategy. And we

[00:51] said that it was because he wasn't up to

[00:53] the challenge of going out on the

[00:55] campaign trail uh articulating his

[00:57] ideas, answering questions coherently

[00:59] from the news media and actually running

[01:02] a campaign like a grown-up candidate for

[01:04] president. We were right about that. Of

[01:06] course, the national news media said,

[01:07] "Oh, that was crazy. They're just being

[01:09] careful because of CO. He's only hiding

[01:11] in the basement because uh he doesn't

[01:13] they don't want him to get sick." And

[01:14] then of course they all played along the

[01:16] whole time he was in the White House

[01:17] when they were concealing his mental

[01:19] decline and all of that. And we said

[01:20] that Joe Biden was going to be a

[01:22] disaster for a lot of things. We said he

[01:24] was going to be a disaster on the

[01:25] economy. We said that we talked about

[01:27] immigration a lot. We said Joe Biden and

[01:30] if you let Joe Biden and the Democrats

[01:32] be in charge of the White House, they

[01:33] are going to throw open the gates of

[01:35] America and they are going to let

[01:37] millions upon millions of illegal aliens

[01:40] into this country basically no questions

[01:42] asked. We pointed that out day after day

[01:45] after day. Of course, the national news

[01:46] media said, "First of all, that's

[01:48] racist." And second of all, you have no

[01:50] nothing to base that on. That is a

[01:51] baseless claim. Their favorite thing to

[01:53] say was, you know, the Trump campaign

[01:55] claimed without evidence, they used to

[01:57] say. Well, now we've got plenty of

[01:59] evidence. And of course, President Trump

[02:01] is digging out from under of the, you

[02:03] know, tens of millions of illegal aliens

[02:05] that are are somewhere across this

[02:06] country. And every single time he does,

[02:09] the Democrats and the news media latch

[02:12] on to these stories. We've seen it with

[02:13] the alleged Maryland man and all that.

[02:16] And I think this is one of the greatest

[02:17] thing I think that President Trump is

[02:19] trying to do is defend the sovereignty

[02:22] of the United States of America. And

[02:24] that begins with fighting off the

[02:26] illegal aliens and and deporting the

[02:28] ones who are already here. So, so Donald

[02:32] Trump won a triumphant victory. What

[02:34] people don't understand though is when

[02:35] you win and power is changed from one

[02:38] regime to another, from a Democrat to a

[02:41] Republican, you have to get into the

[02:43] weeds to decouple, to decouple away from

[02:47] so much of the decisions the prior

[02:49] administration made. And we're still

[02:51] learning about some of the gunk, some of

[02:53] the trash that Joe Biden left us and

[02:56] also some of the landmines that Joe

[02:59] Biden left us. I mean, I I hear from

[03:01] agency officials and from cabinet

[03:03] secretaries, they'd say, "You have no

[03:05] idea." Not just the staffing of the deep

[03:06] state, but regulatory measures,

[03:09] decisions that were made in the prior

[03:11] administration at the 11:00 p.m.

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[03:46] delivered. Tim, what also is Donald

[03:48] Trump working on as far as things that

[03:51] Joe Biden left him, the landmines and

[03:53] the decisions that he has to course

[03:55] correct on? Well, there's there's one

[03:57] big one that has begun to come to light

[03:59] because President Trump just issued an

[04:01] executive order just last week on this

[04:03] and and it's inside the poorly named I

[04:05] know everyone loves to name bills on the

[04:08] left. They they name bills for exactly

[04:09] what they are not. But inside the

[04:12] inflation reduction act, which did

[04:13] absolutely nothing to solve the problem

[04:16] of inflation that Joe Biden left

[04:17] President Trump inside the IRA, there

[04:20] was something that's been come to be

[04:21] known as the Biden pill penalty. And

[04:24] what that is is Joe Biden favored one

[04:27] form of medicine over another form of

[04:30] medicine. He favored what are called

[04:31] large molecule medicines. think of

[04:33] things that you have to go to the

[04:34] hospital for, IVs and infusions,

[04:36] injections, those sorts of things.

[04:38] Favored those at the expense and

[04:41] discriminated against pill form

[04:43] medicine. And that's just a ridiculous

[04:45] idea because pills are 71% cheaper on

[04:49] average than other forms of medicine.

[04:51] They're cheaper to make. They're cheaper

[04:53] for patients. They're cheaper for the

[04:55] entire health care community. And look,

[04:58] patients groups, doctor's groups, yeah,

[05:00] pharmaceutical companies, uh, business

[05:02] groups, conservative groups, everyone

[05:04] told the Democrats at that time, if you

[05:06] do this, this is what's going to happen.

[05:08] And so it passed with zero Republican

[05:10] votes. And what came to pass was exactly

[05:13] what was predicted. 70% two 3/4 of the

[05:17] R&D dollars have moved away from pills.

[05:21] That means that no new breakthroughs are

[05:23] happening. And we're talking about

[05:24] mental health drugs, Alzheimer's drugs,

[05:26] cancer drugs, those sorts of things.

[05:29] That means fewer pills hitting the

[05:30] market, raising costs for everyone. And

[05:32] again, pills are the more the cheaper,

[05:35] more effective way that people get their

[05:37] drugs. 71% cheaper on average. And

[05:39] that's what Joe Biden left us, the Biden

[05:41] pill penalty. And uh there is

[05:43] legislation in Congress to fix that.

[05:45] It's called the Epic Act. But more

[05:47] likely it'll be in the, as the president

[05:49] calls it, the big beautiful budget

[05:51] reconciliation bill where Congress can

[05:53] do that. It's it's the Biden pill

[05:54] penalty. And it really it's raising

[05:57] costs of the health care system. Heck,

[05:59] Joe Biden said he was going to be the

[06:00] guy who cured cancer. Well, he actually

[06:02] made it more difficult by discriminate

[06:05] discriminating against and discouraging

[06:08] the creation of life-saving pills,

[06:10] life-saving medicines that people are

[06:12] used to. It's disgraceful. And in the

[06:14] inflation reduction act, there's over

[06:15] $370 billion dollars to climate change

[06:19] initiatives. I mean, it it's all over

[06:21] the place. So, what did President Trump

[06:23] do la last week? Remind our audience

[06:25] what exactly he signed and the

[06:26] significance of it. Yeah. So, it's an

[06:29] executive order that that addressed the

[06:31] reduction of prescription drugs for

[06:33] Americans, which is of main concern. I

[06:35] I'm I'm paying attention to this. I have

[06:37] elderly parents and like most people

[06:39] other elderly people in my family and

[06:41] and the cost of the system is is of

[06:44] great concern and the EO that he signed

[06:46] instructs the secretary of health and

[06:48] human services that's Robert F. Kennedy

[06:50] Jr. of course to work with Congress

[06:52] specifically mentioned in the EO is to

[06:55] get rid of what's known as the Biden

[06:57] pill penalty. Now here another way that

[07:00] the Biden pill penalty has been

[07:01] terrible. Think about generic drugs.

[07:03] Generic drugs are a very cost-e

[07:06] effective way that a lot of people get

[07:08] their medication. Think of Lipiore for

[07:10] example, which is a well-known

[07:11] cholesterol drug. Because of generics

[07:14] entering the market, people can get

[07:16] their cholesterol medicine for basically

[07:18] pennies per dose. Well, the Biden pill

[07:21] penalty flatly discourages generics from

[07:24] even entering the market. And so those

[07:26] cost reductions never occur. And

[07:29] Charlie, I I know this will resonate

[07:31] with the MAGA community here. Guess who

[07:34] has noticed what's going on with the

[07:36] Biden pill penalty. You're never going

[07:37] to believe it, but China China knows

[07:40] what's going on and China knows an

[07:42] opportunity when they see it. And they

[07:43] are investing in pill medicine research

[07:46] and development in ways that they have

[07:48] never done before because they know that

[07:51] pills are the cheaper way, the more

[07:53] effective way for people to get their

[07:55] medicine. and people will will take the

[07:56] medicine they need if it's convenient to

[07:58] them. Heck, you can get pills in the

[07:59] mail. And so they're keeping their

[08:01] people healthy on the front end, while

[08:03] America, because of the Biden pill

[08:05] penalty, has backed away from developing

[08:08] pills. And again, 71% cheaper pill

[08:11] medicines over these other forms of

[08:13] medicine, again, mental health,

[08:15] Alzheimer's, cancer, all kinds of drugs.

[08:17] The University of Chicago says 188

[08:19] different cures have not been found

[08:22] since 2021 when the IRA and the pill

[08:25] penalty were introduced. And that means

[08:27] 116 million life years off the life

[08:30] expectancy of Americans who are living

[08:32] today. Is that your family? My family? I

[08:35] don't know. But it's the Biden pill

[08:36] penalty and Congress can fix