Charlie Kirk Challenges Student on Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson Qualifications and Gender Identity Definitions

[00:00] So my question is about what you said

[00:02] earlier about um Justice Kaji Brown's uh

[00:05] Jackson's qualifications for the Supreme

[00:07] Court and how you mentioned that uh she

[00:09] was unable to uh define what a woman is.

[00:12] And I'd like to compare that to um

[00:15] Justice Barrett. So, uh, Justice Jackson

[00:18] went to a public high school, attended

[00:19] Ivy League Law Law School, um, clerked

[00:22] for the Supreme Court, was a public

[00:24] defender, uh, served on the sentencing

[00:26] commission, was a district judge, and

[00:28] served on the court of appeals. And, um,

[00:31] as for um, Justice Barrett, she was a

[00:35] Supreme Court clerk and she also sat in

[00:38] court of appeals. And when um she was

[00:42] being questioned by the Senate during

[00:44] her confirmation, she uh was asked to

[00:47] name the freedoms of the first

[00:48] amendment, which um she struggled with.

[00:51] So my question is, what makes Justice

[00:53] Jack um Jack Jack, pardon me, uh Justice

[00:57] um Barrett more qualified than Justice

[00:59] Brown?

[01:00] First of all, what does your shirt say?

[01:01] I can't see that.

[01:02] Trump 22, 24 years in prison.

[01:05] Oh, okay. Got it. Yeah, that's got it.

[01:08] But we could talk about that in a

[01:09] second. Um I I was like like seeing

[01:10] double. I was like are you a Trump fan

[01:12] or not? Because

[01:13] yeah obviously not. Um

[01:16] yeah I mean

[01:18] how is by the way how is Katangi Brown

[01:21] Jackson's Ivy League credentials

[01:23] impressive if she got in with

[01:24] affirmative action?

[01:27] Why is that impressive?

[01:30] And by the way Amy Coney Barrett did her

[01:31] entire hearing without a shred of notes

[01:33] in front of her. You remember that? She

[01:34] had nothing but a notepad. All from

[01:36] memory. Katangi Brown Jackson. I will

[01:38] just ask you, do you think it's

[01:40] important that one of the nine people

[01:42] determining the most important

[01:44] interpretation of our laws knows what a

[01:46] woman is?

[01:52] Well,

[01:59] right. Um,

[02:02] well,

[02:04] my counter to that is that we shouldn't

[02:07] really be seeing the world in black and

[02:10] white. Um,

[02:12] and a woman is it's more than what meets

[02:16] the eye for a definition.

[02:18] No, it's not.

[02:19] No, we should see the world through male

[02:21] and female. Yeah.

[02:22] Why?

[02:27] Well, why? because I live in reality,

[02:31] not in Narnia or some sort of weird

[02:33] created academic abstract space that

[02:35] doesn't exist.

[02:37] So why shouldn't a person be socially

[02:42] welcome to identify with a gender

[02:44] outside of the binary?

[02:46] Anyone can pretend to be something

[02:47] they're not, but that doesn't make them

[02:49] the thing that they're not. Can I be

[02:51] black?

[02:52] No.

[02:53] Oh, but why can't I socially become

[02:55] black? Blackface, right? I could

[02:56] pretend, wear camouflage, masquerade as

[02:58] something that I'm not, right?

[03:00] How's that different than a trans

[03:01] person?

[03:01] Race and gender are two completely

[03:04] separate things. They have nothing to do

[03:06] with each other. And the existence of

[03:09] being transgender does not imply the

[03:11] existence of being transracial.

[03:13] So, you can you can pretend to say that

[03:16] you have ovaries when you don't, but you

[03:18] can't put makeup on to pretend to be a

[03:20] black person.

[03:21] What transgender women are claimed to

[03:23] have ovaries? Uh there's lots of men

[03:26] that pretend to have ovaries. In fact,

[03:28] the CDC guidance says right now that men

[03:30] can chest feed. Do you think men can

[03:32] chest feed?

[03:36] That's not the sole criterion for being

[03:41] So, let me ask you a question. What is a

[03:43] woman?

[03:45] A woman is

[03:48] someone who

[03:50] identifies as one. answer the question

[03:52] without saying the word woman. You can't

[03:55] say the word woman. That's that's called

[03:56] circular reasoning. It's like saying a

[03:58] tree is something that looks like a

[03:59] tree. So I'll ask again, what is a

[04:01] woman?

[04:04] A woman is a person who lives a

[04:08] lifestyle aligned with feminine

[04:10] characteristics, not necessarily your

[04:13] chromosomes or your genitals.

[04:15] So So someone who just wears a dress. So

[04:17] what you are doing is you are reducing

[04:19] womanhood to a costume.

[04:31] No. Um,

[04:33] so are you suggesting that like

[04:38] a transgender woman goes about her day

[04:42] pretending to be a woman, but then when

[04:44] she gets home she starts acting like a

[04:46] man?

[04:47] No. Delusional in every part of life. I

[04:49] understand that. That doesn't mean

[04:50] they're not delusional. Can I mean there

[04:52] there's a series of mental conditions

[04:54] where you could pretend to be a wolf.

[04:55] Can you be trans species, too? Does does

[04:58] your own mental condition dictate

[05:00] external reality? Yes or no?

[05:06] Not necessarily.

[05:08] Okay. Then why do you believe that a

[05:10] biological man can become something that

[05:12] he is not? Because he thinks it. Because

[05:17] gender is not interchangeable with sex.

[05:21] Yeah. Right. So there are zero genders.

[05:22] There are only two sexes. Gender is a

[05:24] madeup term that started in the academy

[05:25] in the 1960s. Talking about sex, which

[05:29] is the only thing that actually can be

[05:30] proven and that matters. XXXY.

[05:33] I will ask the question again. Why is it

[05:36] that a man can suddenly become a dress

[05:39] and can be treated exactly the same as a

[05:42] woman that is biologically not just

[05:44] biologically different but somebody has

[05:47] a different brain, a different hormonal

[05:49] system, menrate, have children. I'll be

[05:52] very honest with you. It is so

[05:54] unbelievably insulting to women to have

[05:57] men have to lecture

[06:00] that all it takes is some weird dude

[06:03] with testosterone can put makeup on,

[06:06] wear a thong and a dress, and he

[06:08] suddenly becomes a woman.

[06:12] Here's the essence of the issue is that

[06:14] no matter how much surgery you do, no

[06:16] matter how many drugs you take, you

[06:18] don't stop being the thing that you were

[06:20] born. You don't get to determine your

[06:23] reality by a stroke of the will.

[06:27] I don't deny for a second that the trans

[06:29] person thinks that they are. Certain

[06:31] people think that they're younger than

[06:32] they are. Some people think they're

[06:34] taller than they are. Some people think

[06:36] they're richer than they are. Some

[06:37] people think they're innocent when

[06:38] they're not. Like Bob Mendez. There's

[06:40] plenty of delusional people in this

[06:42] world. It's up for society to say no to

[06:45] the delusional and yes to reality. It is

[06:48] for us to not allow us to be reigned

[06:51] under the tyranny of somebody's

[06:53] imagination. Do you have a response and

[06:55] then we'll wrap it up.

[07:12] I'm not going to put you on the spot. I

[07:13] appreciate you being here tonight. Thank

[07:14] you so much.

[07:14] Thank you.

[07:16] All right. next question.

[07:19] And give it up for him. That's not easy

[07:21] to do at a conservative event. I

[07:22] appreciate that.

[07:28] Thank you.