Charlie Kirk Debates College Students on Fascism, Democracy, Gender, and American Values at Campus Event

[00:00] Do you feel uh proud of yourself for

[00:03] debating college kids um who are

[00:05] unprepared to speak in front of an

[00:07] audience like yourself?

[00:09] >> Uh uh hold on, hold on, hold on. Um

[00:11] you're 30 years old. We we can agree

[00:13] you're 30 years old, right?

[00:16] >> Do you think that's a little bit silly?

[00:18] >> Are you a voter?

[00:19] >> I am a voter.

[00:21] >> So I vote and you vote. So I'm talking

[00:22] to voters of this country that will

[00:24] determine the future of Western

[00:25] civilization. That's what I'm doing

[00:27] here, too.

[00:28] >> Yeah.

[00:29] Wait, hold on. How is it any different

[00:31] than a professor talking to you?

[00:33] >> Than a professor talking to you?

[00:34] >> Who who are you?

[00:36] >> Well, enough important enough for you to

[00:38] come up to a microphone.

[00:40] >> You create a company that's like like

[00:42] close to being a fascist and then like

[00:44] >> Okay. How am I Let's go through this.

[00:46] How am I a fascist?

[00:49] >> No,

[00:50] >> dude. Like you

[00:50] >> can you name one thing I believe that's

[00:52] fascist?

[00:53] >> Um you believe that like you

[00:58] >> No point. Don't b Don't let him think.

[01:00] Let him.

[01:00] >> But I'm such a bad fascist. I let the

[01:03] people who disagree open mic to talk to

[01:05] me for two hours uninterrupted.

[01:06] >> Okay. I'm an awful fascist.

[01:09] >> I'm more like a free speech liberal the

[01:10] 1970s, not a fascist.

[01:12] >> But I just want to say Turning Point USA

[01:14] is a evil company that was funded by

[01:18] thousands of fracking companies. And

[01:20] that just

[01:21] >> No, it's not thousands, but we do have

[01:23] some frackers that give us money. But

[01:25] >> yeah, and then all all it is is making a

[01:28] bridge from fascism to fracking.

[01:31] >> That's all it is. That's all it is.

[01:33] >> Okay. Again, I'm happy to have a debate.

[01:35] I can see you're getting kind of fired

[01:36] up. So, but what why why are we evil?

[01:39] Like, we're we're having a nice

[01:40] discussion. All of a sudden, you're

[01:41] calling me.

[01:42] >> It seems like you just want the rich get

[01:44] even more rich. Like,

[01:46] >> we we haven't talked about the rich at

[01:48] all. I mean, so do you don't even know

[01:51] my positions on this stuff. Under no

[01:53] circumstance ever should a man ever let

[01:55] a woman pay for a date or you should

[01:57] ever no circumst

[02:01] for anything.

[02:01] >> Okay. Well, let me period.

[02:03] >> Well, let me Okay, so

[02:04] >> what world are we living in?

[02:05] >> Well, hold on a second. I agree with

[02:07] you. If I'm dating a girl, I would pay

[02:10] for everything.

[02:10] >> Everything?

[02:11] >> Yeah. Everything. However, I could see

[02:14] for other people that might be in a

[02:15] different financial position. You know,

[02:17] you pay for 10 dates and then she's

[02:18] like, "You know what? I want to treat

[02:19] you." Well, that's so that's totally

[02:21] different. No, no. What we're the what

[02:24] we're talking about is like, oh, we're

[02:25] going to alternate like what you're

[02:27] serious and she wants to take you out to

[02:28] something for a nice dinner and you

[02:30] might, by the way, if you have the

[02:31] intent to marry, you're already like

[02:32] kind of blending finances. Like, I get

[02:34] that psychologically, but like if you're

[02:36] like, oh, we'll take turns like, oh,

[02:38] well, you know, you pay this time, I pay

[02:40] this time.

[02:40] >> What's your advice to a girl who's who

[02:42] the guy she's currently seeing, he says

[02:44] that.

[02:44] >> Oh, do not marry that man.

[02:46] >> But here's the thing. I feel like they

[02:47] should always break offer. But they

[02:50] should offer. They should pull out the

[02:51] credit card.

[02:51] >> A woman.

[02:52] >> Of course not.

[02:53] >> Just just to offer. No,

[02:54] >> it's a it's a nice gesture.

[02:55] >> No. By the way, no. No. This is this is

[02:57] this is feminism. Feminism is that you

[02:59] have to be this like self-independent.

[03:01] It's not a nice gesture. It's you trying

[03:03] to be like egalitarian. No. You as woman

[03:06] should want to be provided for. In fact,

[03:07] you should have an expectation that you

[03:10] as a woman are so important and so

[03:13] critical and so necessary and beautiful

[03:16] that it shouldn't even be a question. Do

[03:18] you view democracy as an American value,

[03:20] something that's very important to the

[03:21] fabric of this country?

[03:22] >> No. Where is democracy in the US

[03:23] Constitution?

[03:24] >> Oh, okay. So, are you

[03:25] >> No, no, hold on. Where is the word

[03:26] democracy?

[03:27] >> I don't think the word democracy is in

[03:28] the

[03:28] >> constitution. So, where is the word

[03:29] democracy in any of the founding

[03:31] fathers?

[03:31] >> A lot of the founding fathers had

[03:33] extremely elitist viewpoints around who

[03:35] should

[03:36] >> Hold on. Hold on. I just want you said

[03:37] the word democracy. So, I want to get

[03:38] back to our roots. Yes.

[03:40] >> Where is democracy mentioned? I don't

[03:42] >> in the federalist papers, the

[03:44] constitution or the declaration. I think

[03:45] it's good that this country has moved

[03:46] away from things that were explicitly

[03:48] believed by the founding federalist

[03:49] papers and it's mentioned negatively as

[03:52] a problem. So you ask me is democracy a

[03:54] fundamental American value? I say no cuz

[03:57] I go back to our roots and Hamilton

[03:59] Madison and Jay.

[04:00] >> Oh I know that Hamilton was

[04:02] anti-democracy.

[04:03] People thought that people should be

[04:04] owned as I want to be clear. I am I am

[04:07] pro- representative government but I'm

[04:09] not pro-democracy. That's a big

[04:11] difference and that distinction is

[04:12] important. But you asked very

[04:14] specifically about democracy, which is

[04:16] not an American value. It never has been

[04:18] and never should be. Because what is

[04:19] democracy? Democracy is majority rule no

[04:23] matter what. That there's no provisions

[04:25] of checks and balances, no inalienable

[04:27] rights, no separation of powers, pure.

[04:30] If the majority gets it, the majority

[04:32] wants it as quickly as possible.

[04:33] >> I don't advocate democracy. I do

[04:35] understand that we live in a

[04:36] representative like we live in a

[04:37] republic and I understand terrorists.

[04:40] >> What is that? You're targeting a

[04:42] minority group. You're targeting trans

[04:43] people specifically.

[04:45] >> What is a woman?

[04:46] >> What is a That's a stupid ass question,

[04:48] dude. That's a dumbass question.

[04:49] >> What is a woman? College student.

[04:51] >> What is a woman? Oh, you're talking to a

[04:53] college student instead of like, I don't

[04:54] know, someone who's has media training.

[04:56] >> They can't answer what a woman is. It's

[04:58] not a trick question.

[05:00] >> What is a woman?

[05:01] >> Who identifies as a woman?

[05:03] >> What is that thing? You can't answer the

[05:05] question with the question.

[05:06] >> Identifies as a woman.

[05:07] >> It's like saying, "What is the sun?" The

[05:09] sun is something that looks like the

[05:10] sun. What is a woman?

[05:12] >> It's a social identifies as a woman.

[05:13] >> No, you can't answer the question. What?

[05:15] Yeah. Define the woman without saying

[05:17] woman. Yes.

[05:18] >> Thank you. Yes. Yes, ma'am. How are you?

[05:21] >> Uh, good. How are you?

[05:24] >> What's your name?

[05:25] >> Uh, Dakota.

[05:26] >> Nice to meet you, Dakota. How old are

[05:28] you?

[05:28] >> I'm 11.

[05:29] >> Amazing. Give it up for Dakota being

[05:31] here today.

[05:35] >> So, I'm prolife. I'm a school

[05:39] conservative

[05:40] and I know I want to get into politics

[05:42] when I grow up. I don't want to get into

[05:45] massive depth for a political science

[05:47] degree. What concrete steps can I take

[05:50] now in order to achieve the goal of

[05:52] doing my part to make America great

[05:53] again?

[05:55] >> Oh, great.

[05:58] >> You should go to Hillsdale College, the

[06:00] America's greatest college, and start

[06:02] studying now. Start taking classes,

[06:04] reading books. You have to be in charge

[06:05] of your own education. And the fact

[06:07] you're thinking like this at 11 uh is a

[06:10] great sign. God bless you and the future

[06:11] is very bright. Thank you.

[06:13] >> Do you want a hat?

[06:17] [Applause]

[06:19] >> What's your name?

[06:20] >> Uh none of your business unfortunately,

[06:22] but

[06:22] >> Okay. Hello. Nice to meet you. None of

[06:23] your business.

[06:24] >> Thank you. I appreciate it. So, do you

[06:25] love America?

[06:27] >> Yes, I do.

[06:28] >> I hate America. I

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[06:31] [Applause]

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[06:35] >> I every state in the USA should be an

[06:39] independent country. What do you think

[06:42] of this?

[06:43] >> Off the mic, dude.

[06:44] >> Well, I I just first have to ask, since

[06:46] you hate the country, do you plan to

[06:47] leave

[06:48] >> that? What do you mean by that?

[06:50] >> Do you plan to go live in another

[06:52] country?

[06:52] >> No, I do not.

[06:53] >> Oh, you're an idiot.

[06:55] >> Let Let me tell you something.

[06:56] >> Your face is an idiot. America is the

[06:59] only country where even those who hate

[07:00] it refuse to leave.

[07:02] >> That's how you know you live in a great

[07:04] country.