Charlie Kirk destroys socialist student

[00:00] hi um i'm a uvm student i was uh talking

[00:03] to you before i'm sure you noticed that

[00:05] but i'm going to try to keep this

[00:06] tackling yes

[00:08] yeah

[00:09] um but i'm just

[00:11] going to hope you respond in a way

[00:12] that's not so

[00:13] just conservative talking point in more

[00:15] of a conversation way

[00:17] hopefully

[00:18] maybe

[00:20] sure okay

[00:24] so before there was a question about

[00:26] like native american communities and

[00:28] treaties and stuff like that and you

[00:31] were talking about how historically

[00:32] native americans have been kind of like

[00:34] screwed over by the us government and

[00:36] stuff like that don't you think that

[00:38] that history

[00:39] will impact how native americans live

[00:41] today and make it more difficult to

[00:43] succeed in america don't you think that

[00:44] would influence that well i suppose a

[00:46] question i'll ask back at you we've made

[00:48] tremendous accommodations

[00:50] such as sovereignty of native american

[00:52] land entire department of the federal

[00:54] government dedicated just solely to that

[00:57] do you recognize that there's been great

[00:59] efforts to try to accommodate that i

[01:01] recognize those efforts but obviously

[01:03] they haven't worked so why haven't they

[01:06] worked

[01:07] because it's either not enough or the

[01:08] way that we're doing it is incre like we

[01:10] need to treat it more as an equity thing

[01:13] instead of just saying oh it's a

[01:15] culture like instead of blaming it on

[01:17] people's like individual working and

[01:19] like make like change it societally and

[01:21] help them

[01:22] in a way that actually matters

[01:25] so you do know that there's universal

[01:26] health care at native american

[01:28] reservations right yeah but it's not

[01:29] very good because they don't have access

[01:31] to because it's socialistic

[01:34] no

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[01:37] they they have universal health care in

[01:39] plenty of european countries and it

[01:41] works just fine the reason the flaws of

[01:43] the native american

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[01:46] so i'm curious how did vermont's

[01:48] experiment universal healthcare go

[01:55] i didn't hear your response i'm not from

[01:57] vermont so i don't know these things i

[01:58] moved here like two months ago yeah i

[02:00] still i still can't hear what you said

[02:01] say tomorrow you're wearing a mask it's

[02:02] kind of hard can you say it again i

[02:04] moved here like two months ago i'm not

[02:05] from vermont so i don't know these

[02:06] things right so vermont tried

[02:08] single-payer they had to abolish it was

[02:09] a total disaster so look i think the

[02:11] best way that to help native american

[02:13] communities is to help all people

[02:14] through empowerment and education

[02:16] instead we tried a heavy-handed

[02:17] government approach of intervention of

[02:20] the bureau of native american affairs of

[02:21] universal healthcare and if you want to

[02:23] go see a socialist dystopia go to a

[02:25] native american reservation i i maybe

[02:27] you have maybe you worked on native

[02:28] american reservations before i've been

[02:30] to plenty they're they're depressing

[02:32] they're government addicted

[02:33] unfortunately in more ways than one

[02:35] they're very very corrupt and this is

[02:37] something i want to ask you and would

[02:38] you self-identify as a socialist is that

[02:41] fair to say yeah

[02:42] okay i'm not a liberal i'm i'm more

[02:45] social okay so just in liberal are

[02:47] different words and i think

[02:48] conservatives confuse that a lot they're

[02:49] completely different things

[02:51] okay

[02:53] no no we don't so

[02:55] i'm just curious to someone who would

[02:57] say you're a socialist

[02:59] what would be a country you think works

[03:01] well that's a socialist country there

[03:03] are no socialist countries right now

[03:04] there are no so has it

[03:07] has there ever been a socialist country

[03:09] truly socialist no okay

[03:12] so let me so you bel your view your

[03:14] world view is on something that's never

[03:16] existed and currently doesn't exist

[03:19] is it too is it a is it a bad thing to

[03:23] be like

[03:24] pro change like people who lived in like

[03:27] only monarchies

[03:29] wanted democracy and stuff like that

[03:31] that wasn't like a bad thing

[03:33] okay so just just so we're clear um yeah

[03:35] the type of change you're advocating is

[03:37] horrifying um but

[03:39] so it's never existed doesn't and so

[03:43] i would say venezuela cuba north korea

[03:47] formerly vietnam

[03:49] the soviet union those were those are

[03:51] not and were not socialist countries

[03:53] those countries the

[03:55] disastrous effects in those countries

[03:56] were directly contributed by u.s

[03:58] intervention

[04:01] there was like there are multiple coups

[04:03] done by the cia and all right so

[04:06] let's take hold on guys hold on

[04:08] let's take let's just i'm just curious

[04:10] and

[04:11] so

[04:12] how on earth

[04:13] did fidel castro taking over cuba have

[04:15] anything to do with u.s intervention

[04:18] there was plenty of like sanctions like

[04:20] economically cuba was completely cut off

[04:22] there was no they tried to assassinate

[04:24] him plenty of times there was so many

[04:26] the fact that

[04:28] yeah

[04:29] we had what to do with that

[04:31] we didn't have anything to do with that

[04:32] but we after they after a communist

[04:34] regime took over

[04:38] yeah so let me ask you an episode so

[04:40] you're so first of all zimbabwe was not

[04:42] communist

[04:43] burkina faso thomas sankara you say that

[04:46] again thomas sankara burkina faso before

[04:48] he was assassinated he was actually

[04:50] about mugabe he wasn't a communist

[04:53] how about joseph stalin he wasn't a

[04:54] communist called himself how about mao

[04:56] zedong he wasn't a communist yeah pol

[04:59] pot

[05:00] plenty of terrible people have called

[05:02] themselves plenty of different names

[05:04] oh so you get to be the judge got it

[05:06] okay

[05:07] they're not

[05:08] democratic right so i just want to make

[05:11] sure we complete the point you believe

[05:13] in something that doesn't exist has

[05:14] never existed and even though the people

[05:16] that call themselves the things that you

[05:18] believe you say they weren't really that

[05:20] which is the most important point

[05:21] socialism is always judged against an

[05:24] impossible utopia and they judge markets

[05:26] against a reality and here's the truth

[05:28] of the matter that markets which you

[05:30] enjoy comfortably in western society is

[05:33] the most proven affluent creating

[05:35] machine in human history and i would

[05:37] just challenge you to do one thing

[05:39] please stop believing in a utopian

[05:41] nightmare and start looking at things

[05:43] around you that are good that are true

[05:45] that are beautiful that work and are

[05:46] consistent with the natural law you'll

[05:49] be a much happier person if you do that

[05:51] thank you for being here tonight i

[05:52] appreciate it