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Charlie Kirk is the Founder and President of Turning Point USA, the largest and fastest growing conservative youth activist organization in the country with over 250,000 student members, over 150 full-time staff, and a presence on over 2,000 high school and college campuses nationwide. Charlie is also the Chairman of Students for Trump, which aims to activate one million new college voters on campuses in battleground states in the lead up to the 2020 presidential election. His social media reaches over 100 million people per month and according to Axios, he is one of the "top 10 most engaged" Twitter handles in the world. He is also the host of “The Charlie Kirk Show,” which regularly ranks among the top news shows on Apple podcast charts.
Subscribe on YouTubeCharlie Kirk Offers Biblical Guidance on Family Conflict, Arizona Politics, and Constitutional Principles for Conservative Members
Charlie Kirk answers member questions on navigating political and faith divisions within families, particularly for a Jewish believer in Jesus returning home to a left-leaning household. Kirk emphasizes the biblical commandment to honor parents while standing firm in faith, and discusses Arizona's political future, constitutional principles versus big government arguments, and strategies for high school conservatives facing administrative resistance. The discussion touches on economic pressures forcing mothers back to work, Wisconsin's crucial Supreme Court race, and U.S.-Canada relations amid tariff discussions.
Navigating Faith and Family Division with Biblical Wisdom
Charlie Kirk addresses a heartfelt question from Jennifer, a Jewish believer in Jesus who faces the challenging prospect of visiting her left-leaning family in New York. Kirk grounds his advice in Scripture, emphasizing the Fifth Commandment to honor your mother and father. He counsels Jennifer to establish boundaries by suggesting they avoid politics during the visit, while being prepared to defend her faith with love if questioned.
Kirk draws from cultural observations, citing Yarom Brooke's insight that Jewish households often feature vigorous intellectual debate even with young children, which may contribute to advanced reading and reasoning skills. He encourages Jennifer to let the Holy Spirit work through her presence and to report back on how the visit goes, offering to pray for her journey into what she describes as hostile territory.
New York's Energy Crisis and Federal Leverage
When Anthony from New York asks about Trump's meeting with Governor Kathy Hochul regarding pipelines and natural gas, Kirk addresses the state versus federal jurisdictional questions. While acknowledging that fracking bans are primarily state decisions, Kirk suggests Trump may have leverage through national forests governed by the Department of Interior.
Kirk condemns New York's moratorium on fracking and upcoming bans on natural gas hookups in new construction, calling it an insult to New Yorkers who could benefit from the job creation seen in neighboring Pennsylvania. He describes the war on liquid natural gas as tragic given New York's substantial natural gas reserves.
Arizona's Political Future and Untapped Potential
Christine, a 30-year Arizona resident, laments the state's shift from red to purple and asks about bringing Scott Pressler's election integrity work to Maricopa County. Kirk responds with optimism, pointing to President Trump's nearly 200,000-vote victory margin in Arizona as evidence of progress.
Kirk outlines an ambitious vision for Arizona's future, suggesting the state could become the "Florida of the West." He shares that a recent straw poll showed him in first place for a hypothetical gubernatorial run, though he clarifies he's not running and remains focused on Turning Point USA and Turning Point Action. His vision for Arizona includes becoming the AI capital of the American West, building desalination infrastructure to solve water issues, constructing three nuclear plants, and even a half-serious proposal to purchase Rocky Point from Mexico to give Arizona a coastline.
Economic Pressures on New Mothers and the Two-Income Trap
Beatrice, a California mother with a six-month-old, expresses anxiety about returning to work and asks about potential maternity leave policies under Trump. Kirk uses her situation to illustrate a broader economic crisis, citing statistics that in 1985 a family of four could be supported with 36 weeks of labor, while in 2025 it requires 56 weeks.
Kirk references Elizabeth Warren's book "The Two-Income Trap," calling it the best analysis of this phenomenon. He argues that forcing new mothers back into the workforce represents a fundamental failure of the economic model, stating there is nothing more noble than raising children. While acknowledging that paid family leave likely won't be in current legislation, he urges Beatrice to find ways to minimize work hours and maximize time with her child, suggesting work-from-home options and careful cost-saving measures.
Defending Constitutional Principles Against Big Government Arguments
Ashton, who identifies as a strict constitutionalist, asks how to counter arguments that America has grown too large and complex to be governed by the Constitution alone. Kirk responds by emphasizing that the Constitution was written to stand the test of time, not merely address the circumstances of the 1780s.
Kirk explains that the Constitution is fundamentally an analysis of human nature, drawing on the classical education of the Founding Fathers who studied Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, and Aquinas. He describes the Constitution as containing eternal truths about diffusing power across time and geography, preventing any one person from consolidating authority. Kirk directs Ashton to Hillsdale College's Constitution 101 online course, which he personally retakes annually, calling it the best resource for understanding why the Constitution remains the greatest and longest-lasting political document ever written. He argues that Liberty is not man's idea but God's idea, and the Constitution's brilliance lies in creating a structure that respects this truth regardless of technological or social changes.
High School Conservative Activism and Overcoming Institutional Resistance
Brad from Douglas County, Colorado, one of the state's most conservative counties, asks for advice helping a high school student who cannot find a teacher willing to sponsor a conservative chapter due to fear of reprisal from other staff. Kirk reveals a strategic rebrand in the works: renaming Turning Point High School chapters as "Club America" to make it harder for administrators and teachers to deny their formation.
Kirk emphasizes that the student has a constitutional right to charter a chapter and should appeal to administration. More importantly, he frames the struggle itself as valuable character development, quoting Hillsdale College: "Strength rejoices in the challenge." Even if the chapter doesn't materialize, Kirk assures Brad that the experience will mature the student and make him a better, stronger young man. He offers to send encouragement and a signed book, and invites the student to attend the Student Action Summit.
Wisconsin's Supreme Court Race and Preventing Gerrymandering
Bob from Wisconsin highlights the critical importance of the state Supreme Court race, noting that while Wisconsin is "red through and through" except for Dane County and Milwaukee County, the court currently has a 4-3 Democratic majority. With one justice leaving, getting the conservative candidate across the finish line becomes essential to preventing liberal gerrymandering that could flip the legislature and give Dane County's progressive activists statewide power.
Kirk asks what percentage of Trump supporters Bob knows are aware of the spring election. Bob estimates 100% of the Trump faithful know about it, which Kirk finds encouraging. However, Bob expresses concern about reaching younger voters who turned out for Trump but may not understand the importance of state-level races. Kirk acknowledges this challenge and expresses hope about Monday's event in Oconomowoc, Wisconsin.
U.S.-Canada Relations and Strategic Tariff Advice
The final question comes from Ted in British Columbia regarding Canada's new prime minister Mark Carney and potential advice for negotiations with Trump on tariffs. Kirk outlines a strategy focused on bringing the countries closer together: expediting the Keystone XL pipeline, being willing to sell Canada's $13 trillion in oil sands reserves, and using Canadian forces to secure the northern border against terrorist infiltration.
Kirk clarifies that his public advice centers on focusing attention on Mexican drug cartels and the Chinese Communist Party rather than Canada. He advocates for tariffing Mexico for harboring cartels and China for broader reasons, suggesting the U.S. should actually bring Canada closer as an ally against these threats. Kirk emphasizes that Mexican drug cartels have done enormous damage to the United States and should be the primary target of aggressive trade policy.
Video Transcript
Jennifer Jennifer what is on your mind
Jennifer thanks for being a
member hi Charlie I um am Jewish and
also a believer in Jesus and I'm going
home to New York to visit my family all
of my family members are Jewish and very
left on the political spectrum and I am
very far right and I am the only
believer and I'm unsure how to navigate
the waters um it's been a year since
I've been home and obviously a lot has
changed so I I feel like I'm going into
hostile territory and I wish to make a
good impression for my faith well first
of all uh God bless you and so let me
ask you are you visiting uh first your
parents and number two okay that because
that that matters that that's not just
cousins because the Bible is very clear
about how you deal with parents versus
just other random relatives so I'm going
to comment on that from a Biblical
perspective
and then number two are they either
serious about their faith and or do they
care about
Israel great questions um they are not
serious about their faith it's more of a
traditional Jewish background cultural
New Yorkers grew up in New York City and
um they do care about Israel but not
it's nothing I ever knew of growing up I
didn't know what Israel was so obviously
it wasn't that big on the on the
importance list um and my brother will
also be there um and he is not concerned
I don't think he's just more political
than they they've been watching
mainstream media for 70 years so so here
here is my my take number one is that I
would try to have some baseline and
saying look we're we're not going to do
any politics now that that's a that
might not be well received and let me
tell you why especially with your
parents as you know in the ten command
ments the fifth commandment is honor
your mother and father so that you may
live long in the land of which you are
in we are called to honor our parents it
doesn't say hey only honor them if you
have the same politics or only honor
them if you see the world the same way
but number two as someone who has also
uh found Yeshua Jesus Christ if that
does come up you it says in the
scriptures be equipped to have an answer
if you are questioned but do so in love
in constantly try to diffuse if there's
provocation say guys I'm not here to
debate I'm not here to you know have a
combative thing let's have a a sweet
time together I honor you as my parents
and let's find other things to talk
about at the same time if you feel
comfortable because look in some Jewish
households they're uh they're
notoriously known for having uh very
contentious discussions uh in fact there
is a there's a very good argument to be
made I got this from yarin Brooke
actually from the iron Rand Institute
even though I think he's wrong on a lot
of stuff very smart point and he's
Israeli he was he once said one of the
reasons why Jewish kids tend to be a
little more advanced when it comes to
reading and writing is because you sit
at the table at like the age of two or
three at a Jewish uh Jewish you know
meal and you have to defend your
position and your point and if not your
uncle would just say that's stupid you
almost have to reason at a young age I
don't know if you can sympathize with
that or not Jennifer I can yes and so uh
it's it's it's it's built into Jewish
culture that you better come with a good
idea and a good argument if not the
adult will not just treat you as a kid
it be you got to really um kind of
fasten and sharpen your reason so
Jennifer I'm going to pray for you um I
know that this is very difficult uh but
the Lord is with you and read your Bible
going into that situation and I'll leave
you with a Bible verse 1 Corinthians
16:13 be on guard stand firm in the
faith and be courageous and be strong
and Jennifer send me an email how it
goes and maybe the holy spirit will be
at work God bless you thank you all
right Anthony Anthony what is on your
mind thank you for being a member what's
up hey Charlie what's going on um so I
have a question because not many people
understand what goes on in New York
Trump is meeting with hok today our
governor and I know one of the things on
the docket is this pipeline that goes
through the New England states that he
wants to have come through New York to
help lower cost by $5,000 a month or a
year whatever it came out to be the
issue is hok and the previous Governor
Cuomo have made sure that no fracking no
pipelines will come through and come
next year any new houses built in New
York state cannot have natural gas
hookup and then a couple years later new
buildings can't have natural gas hookup
so how does the EPA and how does TR can
Trump do anything to override all these
and I know they're state level but what
can they do because New York has a ton
of natural gas yes does it's a great
question it is look if a state doesn't
want to Frack it is going to be a
state's right decision however and it is
a big however there's a fair amount and
this is where I think Trump has some
leverage of national forest in New York
if I'm not mistaken so I don't know if
it's all state forest or national forest
but National Forest is of course
governed by the department of interior
so there I mean there is a major so the
mountains I think is largely state
governed but there might yes that's a
state park yeah I think there are some
national forest nearby I I could be
wrong with that being said is that Kathy
hokel should resend the moratorium on
fracking because it would create so many
jobs for the people in New York look
what it's happening in Pennsylvania and
I think it is an insult and a tragedy
that New York is not doing the same
thing Anthony thanks so much really
appreciate it let's go to uh uh the war
on liquid natural gas is just unbel
believable Christine uh thank you for
being a member members. Charly kirk.com
what's on your mind hi Charlie um I was
super happy to be at amfest in December
it was a absolutely electric time I am
originally from Pennsylvania and I have
lived in northern Arizona for over 30
years wow when I first moved here um the
state was red and in 30 years it has
gone South is Scott Pressler available
to leave with wiconsin and come to
Maricopa County and help us
out well yeah I mean we also have
Turning Point here as well so no I know
I know I know I I mean you guys are
amazing and everything you're doing I am
blown away by what you've created in
such a short amount of time but um what
can we do to get Fair elections within
that County which tends to turn the
entire State yeah well first I will say
there is hope and I agree with you that
it has gone South and we need to kind of
turn this around but let's look at
everything that we accomplished uh this
last cycle uh it was President Trump's
best ever performance in the state of
Arizona a five and a half Point Victory
almost 200,000 uh votes over uh kamla
Harris uh we are Full Speed Ahead to win
back the governor's race the attorney
general and the Secretary of State's
race and I think we're going to turn
this into the Florida of the West it's
not going to be easy but we're going to
be pouring a lot of money in to this
state and a lot of attention and a lot
of ballot chasing people say Charlie
what's your plan for the midterms my
number one plan is to defend our home is
we're going to get a lot of attention
here in Arizona uh we have a great
following here in Arizona no I'm not
running for governor people keep on
asking for that in fact there was a poll
that came out we haven't talked about
this on the program that showed that I
was in first place if there was a straw
poll for governor it was really
something else and and I'm I'm not
running people say oh you know you
should run I said I'm running Turning
Point USA and turning point action doing
the show but to answer your question
we're going to continue to chase votes
and to register voters and turn Arizona
into a red Paradise if I had nothing
else going on it of course would be
somewhat tempting to run for governor
alongside Byron and V because I think
Arizona could kick the tale of Florida
and Ohio are you kidding me I mean you
want to go be a Florida man in the I5
Corridor or Orlando or do you want to go
live in beautiful Scottsdale Arizona I
mean no offense to Ohio but you'd be
lucky if the sun comes out once in
February March there is so much untapped
potential in Arizona there again I'm not
I'm not running for govern or anything
but the the lack of vision that some of
these candidates have for Arizona we
should become the AI super uh super
capital of the American West number one
number two we should be the
desalination capital of the world we
could fix our water program overnight
number three we need to build like three
nuclear plants number four work with the
federal government to purchase Rocky
Point not a joke we need a coastline buy
it from Mexico extend Arizona and byy
the way Mexico can get tucon back and
I'm half kidding thank you so much
what's the next question uh beis beis
what's on your mind uh thanks for being
a member members. Charly kirk.com
hi Charlie can you hear me yes what's on
your mind thanks for being a member hi
um so um first um so I have a almost
six-month-old and um I mean I've just
been super anxious about having to go
back to work and everything so I was
just uh wondering um you know for the
future um does President Trump have any
plans for like maternity leave or
anything like that as far as like making
it potentially better yeah that I don't
think it's going to happen in this bill
um I I do recommend you know
homeschooling your kids how I know it
might be really tough so so
beatric I this this is a sad State of
Affairs and you are a victim of a larger
economic problem so I don't mean to
Pride but is it one of those things
where you have to work in order to
support your family with your husband or
your partner am I fair to say
that yeah correct yeah we're in
California if that changes anything so
so this is so this is so important and
be a TR here here's the problem and you
are a perfect example of this because I
would imagine you would rather not work
than work am is that fair correct yeah
but of course staying at home is working
everybody this is the kicker in
1985 you could support a family of four
in America with 36 weeks of labor
in 2025 it requires 56 weeks of wet
labor that's more than 52 weeks and
that's for one person what does that
mean Elizabeth Warren Believe It or Not
wrote the best book in beat if you want
some light reading you could read it
this was like 15 years ago it was called
the two income trap beatric I think it
is wrong that we are forcing new mothers
back into the workforce because our
economic model is so screwed up I say
that as a conservative there is nothing
more noble than raising your kids there
is nothing more noble than raising your
children and so incomes are not keeping
up enough to be able to raise kids the
way you want to and so instead you have
to do daycare and all that so here's the
only thing that I would recommend viatri
and just my one call to action do
whatever you possibly can to try to cost
saave try to not work all the time to be
there to raise your child uh that is
time you'll never get back I know it's
so hard and I know because of the cost
of living and because of inflation it's
difficult but uh that is my my piece of
advice I have pushed for paid family
leave for quite some time I think we
should have it and look there's a lot of
work from home options as well home
office uh things of that nature God
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okay Ashton uh Ashton thank you for
being a member Ashton what is on your
mind and please unmute
yourself hey can you hear me Ashton yes
how are you thanks for being a member
awesome thank you yeah I just had a real
quick question um so just for people I
mean I consider myself more of a strict
constitutionalist you know believing
that just the Constitution is the law of
the land that kind of General Viewpoint
what would you say is the best way to
kind of communicate that when you're
talking with people who would be more
like performing a big government
specifically when people are like
bringing forth the argument that the
country is so big now there's so many
people that it's too large just be
governed by the Constitution and then
sort of the three branches of government
that you need to have more of these
federal agencies involved in that
process yeah so um it's a good question
the person who's asking it uh doesn't
understand human nature so the
Constitution was not written for the
times it was written to stand the test
of time the Constitution first and
foremost alongside the Declaration and
Dr Larry AR in his book The founders key
talks about this that the Declaration
and the Constitution are one document in
the same as first and foremost an
analysis an argument on human
nature it was about the order of things
as the classics would say you see every
founding father was studied in the
classics of Socrates and Plato and
Aristotle and aquinus they
knew their great ideas and their great
thinkers so the Constitution has Eternal
truth within it the Eternal truth that
not one man should govern the
Constitution spread power over
time and it spreads time it spreads
power over land in fact it gives states
rights it diffuses power in very unique
ways so Ashley I'm not able to kind of
give you the entire Constitution speech
that I would like to for the sake of
time but here's what I can direct you to
is that the best of all the Hillsdale
online courses is the Hillsdale online
course intro to the constitution in fact
Ryan can attest to this I have been
stuck it again the last couple of
days I relisten and retake the Hillsdale
online course on Constitution 101 once a
year and Ashton you'll realize the
profundity and the Brilliance of what
our founding fathers authored because in
order to have a free government you must
have a form and a structure that
respects and responds to the idea that
Liberty is not man's idea but it is
God's idea the Constitution is the
greatest political document ever written
and it is the longest lasting of its
kind by the way because it was not just
written for oh what happened in 1780 but
for human beings everywhere that is why
the First Amendment does not just apply
to writing letters across the Atlantic
but it also applies to tweets that you
send out or Facebook posts because human
nature does not change even though times
do let's go to Brad Brad thank you for
being a member members. Charly kirk.com
what is on your
mind hey Charlie uh thank you for all
the work that you're doing uh everywhere
fantastic
stuff uh I've got a high schooler nearby
who wants to start a chapter and he has
approached a couple of uh teachers that
he thought might be
conservative um it's interesting that
there's only one or two that he can
identify because this is one of the more
uh most conservative counties in
Colorado what county but having trouble
finding finding a sponsor uh both have
declined uh because they're fearful of
reprisal from other staff so what would
you suggest how how can he move forward
what what county is he in I'm just
curious Douglas County in Colorado Okay
so a couple things number one um
obviously don't give up number two
though this is largely why at our high
school program uh we are renaming and
rebranding the Turning Point High School
scho chapters which will still be that
that in practice to calling them Club
America it'll be a lot harder for high
school teachers to deny them I think you
can resonate the wisdom behind that and
the high school department has been
pushing for that for a while and it's
nothing against turning point but you
you get it you're 15 16 years old these
teachers are skittish and so they will
be Club America chapters brought to you
by turning point USA which I think is
brilliant and it'll be a lot harder for
these teachers to kind of say no to that
I I wish I had better advice other than
he has a constitutional right to Charter
a chapter of his
choosing I think he should appeal to the
administration appealed to somebody say
hey can just some teachers sign on to
this and this is a culture of
intimidation our Turning Point USA young
Patriots they experience this on a daily
basis but I'd love to uh send a note of
encouragement uh to him and also uh
maybe a signed book last thing I'll say
is this is that even if it doesn't work
out the process and the difficulty that
he has to experience will mature him and
will make him a better stronger young
man as he grows up meaning this will be
a phenomenal experience for him and so I
know absolutely I'm sorry please I'm
getting a lot of people my ear see
please what' you say oh just totally
agreeing absolutely that that struggle
is going to instill in him uh drive and
perseverance and uh make him a better
man and I will I will reiterate
this there is a great quote at Hillsdale
College but it's not their quote but
they use it
strength rejoices in the challenge so
tell him that in the challenge you
should be
rejoicing this will make you understand
the world is not an easy place with safe
spaces and cookies and milk and Trigger
warnings and even if it doesn't work out
he'll have a great Turning Point USA
community and finally we'd love to have
him come to our student action Summit uh
I want to just throw the graphic up on
screen here as we are uh having our next
member what is our next member name let
me see
here Bo Bob not Bo
Bob Bob thank you for sorry they wrote
Bo but they meant Bob Bob thank you for
being a member I hope to see you on
Monday in okon walk what is on your mind
uh yeah I'm just I'm happy you brought
it up because uh you know here in the
state of Wisconsin we are definitely
read through and through except for Daye
County and uh Milwaukee County obviously
and uh it's it's just kind of crazy that
uh you know our legislature is
Republican but uh our Supreme Court
right now is um you know 4-3 Democratic
and now that she's leaving we've got to
get uh shimo across the line because if
they if we allow that Supreme Court in
they're going to gerrymander them the
districts and we might lose Wisconsin
forever because they're going to get
that legislature over to you know a
liberal legislature and all the think
tank in uh Dane County is just going to
you know infect the rest of the or have
the power to infect the rest of the
state super quick I have a question for
you Bob what percentage of the Trump
faithful people that you know are aware
and planning to vote on this spring
election 100% of the people that that's
a good sign that's a great sign Bob that
gives me hope well yeah yeah but it's I
think more people it's just so hard to
get people to go out for elections like
this um thankfully we have like I have
the Turning Point action app I have
Commit 100 um you know Scott Pressler
here doing his thing is amazing to have
but uh it's still just where it's it's
you know we we had a lot of young people
uh thanks to you and your organization
that went out and voted for Trump it's
harder to get them to understand how
important it is on the state level
um so that's the big thing you know I
have a bunch of 20 year olds I I have a
20-year-old son and you know I just
every one of his friends I'm talking to
and it's just trying to get them to go
vote you know for something they don't
hear a bunch about is is the is the the
hump to get
over very good well thank you Bob hope
to see you on Monday in okon walk God
bless thank you yep thank you okay uh
final question of the day of the week is
Ted by the way if you guys want to
register to the event one more time
throw it up TP action.com Hall TP
action.com Hall Ted you're the final
question make it
quick hi Charlie uh calling from British
Columbia again uh spoke last week today
Canada got a new prime minister Mark
Carney uh former governor of the Bank of
Canada the bank of England we also now
may likely have an a federal election
before May where another uh leader may
take over the conservative leader Pierre
PV
uh if you were advising either of these
men on their negotiations with Trump on
the current tariff War what would you
say if I was advising the Canadian side
um so what I would say I I like Ezra's
idea I would try to bring both our
countries closer together number one I
would advise them to try to expedite the
Keystone XL pipeline number two be
willing to sell the $ 13 trillion of oil
oil sands number three I I would use the
Canadian Troopers to really shut down
the northern border it's just
non-negotiable the advice I would give
is I'd say look we are going to help
secure this border America so you no
longer have terrorists flowing across
the border that's the advice that I
would give here's my also public advice
for whatever it's worth I think that all
of our attention needs to be on the
Mexican drug cartels and the Chinese
Communist party we should tariff Mexico
for harboring cartels we should terar
China for obvious reasons those are the
two in fact I think we should bring
Canada closer to us to go after the
Mexican drug cartels the Mexican drug
cartels have done enormous damage to our
country that is my advice thanks so much
for being a member man thanks really
appreciate it man to that thanks
Charlie okay email me Freedom Charli
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