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The Case Against College and For Self-Education
Charlie Kirk doesn't mince words when it comes to his views on higher education. When asked about book recommendations, he launched into a passionate explanation of why he opposes the traditional college path for most people. According to Kirk, college doesn't teach much of value, and students are better served by taking control of their own education.
Kirk emphasized that in today's world, wisdom is a choice. Six hundred years ago, access to knowledge was limited, but now everyone carries a supercomputer in their pocket capable of delivering millions of hours of information on any topic imaginable. The question becomes: how will you use that access?
The Hard Choices That Lead to Success
Kirk laid out a stark choice for his audience: spend Saturday nights getting drunk with friends or stay in and consume deep, intellectually rich podcasts and content. He made clear that he's not judging those who choose to party and drink, but warned that such choices come with consequences. You won't be as successful, you won't be as happy, and you need to be honest about your values.
For the past 12 years, Kirk has made the decision not to party, drink, or do drugs. Instead, he's committed to reading 100 books a year and listening to two to three hours of podcasts daily. He challenged his audience directly: if you're not doing the same, you're making a decision to be ignorant. And before anyone claims they're too busy, Kirk pointed out his own schedule—three hours of radio daily, managing 550 staff members, raising $100 million annually, and caring for two children under the age of two.
Essential Reading List
When it comes to book recommendations, Kirk offered several titles he considers essential reading:
- Man's Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl
- Mere Christianity by C. S. Lewis
- Abolition of Man by C. S. Lewis
- That Hideous Strength by C. S. Lewis
- The Book That Made Your World by Vishal Mangalwadi
- 1984 by George Orwell
- Brave New World by Aldous Huxley
- Darkness at Noon by Arthur Koestler
- Any of Winston Churchill's 50+ books
Kirk set a clear standard: if you're reading fewer than 25 books per year, you're not taking learning seriously. He emphasized that college often forces students to read "absolute crap" unless they attend institutions like Hillsdale or Liberty University.
Building Turning Point USA From the Ground Up
When asked by a student from Clark County, Washington about how he built Turning Point USA from his garage, Kirk shared the key factors behind his success. First and foremost was his decision not to attend college, which gave him a four-year head start on his peers.
While his high school classmates were accumulating debt and studying subjects that didn't matter, Kirk was traveling the country, meeting new people, and speaking at events. By age 22 in 2016, when his peers were just graduating college, Kirk was on a first-name basis with then-candidate Donald Trump and had built an organization with 75 employees.
The Formula for Success
Kirk's success didn't happen overnight—it was a 12-year overnight success story. His formula included several key elements:
- Outwork everybody—there is no replacement for hard work
- Be willing to travel extensively (Kirk has traveled 3,000 days in the last decade, including 330 days a year at his peak)
- Be willing to ask for help
- Pray for the favor of God, who Kirk credits for Turning Point USA's success
The Power of Individual Action
In his closing remarks, Kirk addressed what he sees as one of the enemy's most effective tactics: convincing people that their individual actions don't matter. He took the opposite position, arguing that everything you do matters—from how you talk and dress to how you communicate and what words you use, and whether you fight for good or evil.
Kirk emphasized that it doesn't matter whether you think you're making an impact; what matters is whether you do the right thing. The impact will come. When 600-plus people are simultaneously doing the right thing, creating a force multiplier effect on campuses across the country, that's what gives him hope.
His message was clear: young people have the power to take back the country, but it starts with each individual making the choice to pursue wisdom, work harder than everyone else, and commit to doing what's right regardless of whether the impact is immediately visible.
Video Transcript
[00:00] you talk a lot about like being like
[00:02] well read and things like that and
[00:03] learning I was wondering if you had any
[00:04] good book suggestions cuz I absolutely
[00:06] love reading yes absolutely this is why
[00:08] I'm so against people going to college
[00:10] uh because College you don't really
[00:11] learn much of anything that's a value
[00:13] sorry guys it's just true um and so by
[00:16] the way many of you agree you might not
[00:17] agree it is what it is you you person
[00:20] this is a very important question thank
[00:21] you very very good in your life you
[00:25] become as wise and as well informed as
[00:28] you choose to be
[00:31] wisdom is a choice now 600 years ago
[00:35] that was not the case you have a super
[00:38] computer now in your right hand pocket
[00:40] that can give you millions of hours of
[00:42] information if you choose on any topic
[00:45] imaginable and so you have a choice I
[00:48] can go and get super drunk with friends
[00:51] on a Saturday night or I can stay in and
[00:55] listen to deep and Rich podcasts of
[00:58] intellectual you know type basis which
[01:01] one is gonna better improve my life
[01:03] Chark and or you g listen to the Charlie
[01:05] Kirk show thank you very much
[01:08] and let me tell
[01:10] you glory be to God for Turning Point
[01:13] USA because God deserves the credit
[01:16] however I made the choice for 12 years
[01:19] now I don't go out and party I do not
[01:21] drink I don't do drugs I'm not if you
[01:23] decide to do that that's fine but you'll
[01:25] pay a price you won't be as successful
[01:28] you won't be as happy and that's okay if
[01:30] getting drunk is your value because you
[01:32] got to write down your values right and
[01:34] if one of your values is like drinking a
[01:35] lot of beer that's fine that's your
[01:38] decision you will suffer because of that
[01:41] but that's your choice I made a decision
[01:43] that I don't want to live that life that
[01:45] I want to succeed I want to try to
[01:47] accomplish something that is good for
[01:49] Humanity and so I read 100 books a year
[01:52] I listen to two to three hours a day of
[01:53] podcasting and you can too by the way
[01:56] and if you're not you're making a
[01:57] decision to not be informed you're
[01:59] making decision to be ignorant and I'm
[02:01] being kind of tough on you guys because
[02:03] what else are you doing that's more
[02:04] important and if you think you're busier
[02:06] than I am I'm sorry you're not like just
[02:07] let's be honest okay I do three hours a
[02:09] radio day we got 550 people on staff I
[02:11] got to raise a $100 million dolls a year
[02:12] and I got two kids under two you're not
[02:14] busier than I am okay and so you should
[02:17] say well I want to be well informed okay
[02:19] then how many books of year are you
[02:20] reading if if it's under 25 you're not
[02:22] taking learning seriously and that's why
[02:24] college is just complete waste of time
[02:25] because they're making you read absolute
[02:26] crap right unless you go to Hillsdale or
[02:28] Liberty which I see two of you there um
[02:31] so what books you should read man search
[02:32] for meaning by Victor Frankle it's one
[02:35] of the most important books that one can
[02:36] read anything by CS Lewis uh Mere
[02:39] Christianity is really great uh
[02:41] abolition of man That Hideous Strength
[02:43] um by Vash mangalwadi uh the book that
[02:45] built your world um I love 1984 Brave
[02:48] New World Darkness at noon um anything
[02:50] by Winston Churchill he wrote over 50
[02:52] books there's no lack of books I I have
[02:53] book recommendations on my on my entire
[02:55] website but if you want to succeed in
[02:58] life prioritize reading over beer pong
[03:02] thank you very much hi so I'm from Clark
[03:04] County Washington State and
[03:07] um I just had a question um I have a lot
[03:10] of um respect and admiration for you
[03:13] starting Turning Point from literally
[03:15] your garage from the ground up and I
[03:17] tried doing something um similar in
[03:19] Washington very difficult um so I just
[03:22] was wondering if you had like any tips
[03:24] on what you did to make it as far as you
[03:26] have so far uh yeah well the first was
[03:29] not going to come col uh so again I'm
[03:31] not trying to bash College too much cuz
[03:32] I know a lot of you guys are kind of
[03:34] invested in the scam but that's fine um
[03:36] so but yeah look if you want to succeed
[03:38] go you know going to college going to
[03:40] college is a really good way to not do
[03:41] that because think about it while many
[03:43] of my peers were going into tons of debt
[03:48] and were studying stuff that doesn't
[03:50] matter I had a four-year Head Start so I
[03:53] had a 4-year jump start where I was able
[03:55] to travel the country meet new people
[03:57] speak at events so by the time that my
[04:00] peers in high school were graduating
[04:02] college at the age of 22 at the age of
[04:04] 22 in 2016 I was on a firstname basis
[04:07] with then candidate Donald Trump we had
[04:09] 75 employees you know a firm But Mighty
[04:12] budget how is that possible it's well
[04:14] first of all I traveled 330 days a year
[04:17] so you have to be willing to outwork
[04:18] everybody there is no replacement for
[04:20] hard work I've traveled 3,000 days in
[04:22] the last decade and so it's an overnight
[04:25] success story turning it's a 12y year
[04:26] overnight success story at Turning Point
[04:27] USA you have to outwork everybody you
[04:29] have to be willing to ask for help um
[04:30] and then just pray for the favor of God
[04:32] because he really deserves the credit
[04:33] for what we been able to happen here at
[04:34] Turning Point USA so thank you so much
[04:37] thank you thank you all right in closing
[04:40] everybody um and then I'm going to
[04:41] introduce Lorraine is that we could take
[04:44] back this country but it starts with
[04:46] every single one of you the enemy and
[04:48] the bad guys will lead you to believe
[04:50] that what you do does not matter I will
[04:53] go a radical step in the other direction
[04:55] everything you do Matters from how you
[04:57] talk to how you dress to how you
[05:00] communicate to the words you use to
[05:03] whether you fight for good or evil for
[05:05] whether you fight against this nonsense
[05:07] it does not matter whether or not you
[05:09] think you are making an impact it
[05:10] matters of whether or not you do the
[05:12] right thing the impact will come if 600
[05:16] plus people are doing the right thing
[05:18] simultaneously having that Force
[05:20] multiplier impact on campuses across the
[05:23] country that is what gives me hope and
[05:25] you guys give me such amazing hope
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