Charlie Kirks Security Just Got CAUGHT The EMTs Were RIGHT THERE

[00:02] Let's get into it. Coach Colin here.

[00:05] Some of you, actually, I've gotten this

[00:07] uh request a bunch of times via email

[00:10] and whatnot. Some of you have asked me

[00:12] to look into Shawn Ryan with Brian

[00:16] Harpole, Charlie Kirk's head of

[00:17] security, and uh talk about the fact

[00:20] that he brings up EMTTs.

[00:23] And again, very easily you're seeing

[00:26] inconsistencies in what he's saying. And

[00:29] like I said before, you know, obviously

[00:32] going to call out the inconsistencies.

[00:34] You know, I've watched this interview

[00:35] twice already. Now, it's clear that it

[00:38] was just to clear his name. I mean,

[00:40] Shawn Ryan is not just doing a softball

[00:43] interview. I can respect the softball

[00:45] interview. He is doing an interview

[00:47] where he is leading this guy towards

[00:50] what he needs to say. I mean, you don't

[00:52] see stuff like this on YouTube. You

[00:56] usually see this on MSNBC, CN, things

[00:59] like that. You don't usually see stuff

[01:01] like this in the independent space, but

[01:04] Sean's breaking ground, I guess. So, and

[01:08] and I bet they're connected in a way

[01:10] that we just don't know about because,

[01:11] you know, he has guys who are, you know,

[01:14] military. Shawn knows a bunch of guys

[01:15] that are military. You know, Shawn knows

[01:18] agency dudes. He probably knows agency

[01:20] dudes, too. They're probably connected

[01:22] in a way that they don't care to share

[01:23] with the rest of us because it'll look

[01:25] even less organic than it already does.

[01:28] But we're going to get into this clip

[01:30] here and then I'm going to show you

[01:33] another clip of him talking where Shawn

[01:36] just completely leads him in in this uh

[01:38] very interesting way, but it leads to a

[01:41] contradiction.

[01:42] And then I'm gonna play a video from

[01:44] myself talking about the EMTs, where

[01:48] they were, showing that what Brian is

[01:51] saying is not exactly true. Now, let's

[01:54] get into it.

[01:55] >> Japan just a little bit.

[01:57] >> Of course, that's how fast I'm playing

[01:59] it. Guys, you know who I am. For those

[02:02] of you that are new, I'm always playing

[02:04] things way too fast, and I forget to

[02:06] slow them down.

[02:07] >> The last thing he ever said to me was,

[02:08] "It's going to be a good day." He said,

[02:11] "Good." I said, "A little bit." He said,

[02:12] "Good. It's going to be a good day."

[02:15] And so, uh, we, uh, we, um, used the

[02:21] restroom and then we did a couple meet

[02:24] and greets with some kids that were

[02:27] student volunteers, uh, just right by by

[02:30] that uh, tape, you know, and so we did a

[02:32] hard line to keep people from walking

[02:34] up. Uh, and then we proceeded right to

[02:37] the tent. And so he starts throwing out

[02:39] the hats, which is a thing of his. Mhm.

[02:41] [clears throat]

[02:41] >> Guys are already in place at that time

[02:44] where comms were calling in. Hey,

[02:45] walking up. Uh, you know, 5 seconds, 10

[02:48] seconds. Uh, they come up, crowd reacts,

[02:51] and then everybody goes to looking in

[02:54] their area responsibility um for, you

[02:57] know, walkups, guns, uh, people throwing

[03:00] things, stuff like that. And that would

[03:02] be the area right in front of them. And

[03:05] with the just one more thing to cover

[03:07] the evacuation routes, I mean we had

[03:09] already covered you guys have been

[03:10] there. You'd had a presence there for

[03:12] two weeks prior to the event. Do you

[03:14] have the routes to all the venues that

[03:18] specific more specifically the hospital?

[03:20] Do you have multiple routes to

[03:22] >> hospital? So what we do on that one is

[03:24] um and u we're not there for two weeks,

[03:27] you know, but we start working that for

[03:28] two weeks and that all gets plugged in.

[03:30] You where where are we going? and and

[03:33] the the one that we went to um was the

[03:35] closest one, but it was a level three.

[03:37] Yeah, we knew that. Um the the next

[03:39] closest one was another 7 minutes away.

[03:42] We're going to the closest one.

[03:44] >> Yeah. And we belied it to there and and

[03:47] and I'll get into the how we got there

[03:49] and what we did on the way in a minute.

[03:50] But yeah, all that's plugged in, you

[03:52] know, all that it's information and it's

[03:55] known. And then we have a when we have a

[03:57] guy that even though that route's

[03:59] pre-done even though that's known, we

[04:02] still have a guy in there that's calling

[04:03] it out in real time on that right side.

[04:06] I mean it's he's nav and that nav is

[04:08] important, you know, because the guy's

[04:11] driving is driving and and and we needed

[04:14] a Justin expert drove that day like man.

[04:18] Yeah. Incredible. And so yeah, all

[04:20] that's known beforehand and so when

[04:22] people said, "Oh, you you should have an

[04:24] ambulance there." It's like, well, one,

[04:27] I can't make the city put an ambulance

[04:29] there.

[04:30] >> Now, there is a Utah law that says for

[04:33] mass gatherings like that, a Utah law

[04:36] says that for mass gatherings, a health

[04:39] officer needs to be assigned. I don't

[04:41] assign them, the PD does, whoever does.

[04:45] I know, way too close to the camera, but

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[05:17] there. Link in the description. Now, of

[05:19] course, I know you're already looking at

[05:21] that like him passing the buck and and

[05:24] you know, I think so, too. But the

[05:26] reason I interrupt is because, you know,

[05:28] I used to work with film and television.

[05:30] You're working locations, which means

[05:32] that you're basically, you know, before

[05:34] it was called locations. It was actually

[05:36] called security because that's what

[05:38] you're doing when you work locations.

[05:40] You are securing the venues. You are

[05:43] securing the areas. You are making sure

[05:46] people can't get in, people can't get

[05:47] out. You're making sure of lanyards.

[05:49] You're doing what security does. That's

[05:50] why I'm so sure of what I'm saying when

[05:52] I talk about this guy. Um, and again,

[05:54] not the same type of security, but we

[05:56] are protecting people who are more

[05:58] famous than Charlie Kirk a lot of the

[06:00] time. And we're making sure that people

[06:02] can't get to them and we're taking care

[06:04] of them and we're moving them from place

[06:05] to place unnoticed. Like, there's a lot

[06:07] of it. Uh, it's almost like a film and

[06:10] television deep state of sorts. It's

[06:12] weird. But we used to have the thing

[06:15] where there had to be a certain amount

[06:17] of medics. So if it was say 100, I'm I'm

[06:21] just putting out numbers here, nothing

[06:22] official, but let's say it's a 100

[06:24] people, you need one medic. If it gets

[06:25] to 200, you need two. If it gets to 500,

[06:29] you need three. If it gets, you know,

[06:31] like the more that there is, the more

[06:33] medical staff you need just in case

[06:36] anything happens cuz you can't have one

[06:38] medic look after a bunch of people. Now,

[06:42] I am going to show you a clip where

[06:43] there are two EMTs. And it's just weird

[06:46] that out of 3,000 people, there's only

[06:49] two EMTs.

[06:51] And also, just to touch on the whole

[06:52] ambulance thing quickly,

[06:55] it's like you would think this guy, and

[06:59] I know I've said this before, but this

[07:01] is everything with this interview. You

[07:03] would think he would just be the guy to

[07:04] be like, "Hey, we need an ambulance."

[07:07] Oh, uh, well, uh, yeah, yeah, I know. I

[07:09] know. I can't I can't be the one that

[07:10] does it. I know you need to do it. Can

[07:11] we have an ambulance? Yeah. Yeah, we

[07:13] really need an ambulance. Yeah. Yeah.

[07:14] There's a part like we pull up. You can

[07:16] pull up right beside us. In fact, I'll

[07:18] move that car right there. You can pull

[07:19] an ambulance right there. Can we have an

[07:21] ambulance, please? Or you look and you

[07:23] go, "Hey, how much for me to pay for an

[07:25] ambulance?" Yeah, cuz I I don't know

[07:27] what's going on. I don't want any

[07:29] liability just in case anything happens

[07:31] to Charlie. Can I just have an

[07:33] ambulance? Can I do that? Oh, I can. Cuz

[07:36] I know you can. I know you can pay for

[07:38] one yourself. You can pay a couple of of

[07:40] paramedics to do offduty work. And yes,

[07:43] you'll pay them an exorbitant amount of

[07:45] money, way more than they would get

[07:47] usually because it's like their day off.

[07:48] We used to do it with cops all the time.

[07:51] But yeah, you you you could pull that

[07:53] off. And he keeps acting like it's the

[07:56] law that kept holding me back from

[07:57] taking these extra precautions. It's the

[07:59] law that helped that held me back from

[08:02] sending another text message to that guy

[08:04] to make sure there was someone on the

[08:05] roof. It's the law that made sure with

[08:07] the drones. It's all the law. I would

[08:09] have done it, but the law held me back.

[08:11] It's like, I don't know, man. I'm not

[08:13] saying there's ways around the law, but

[08:15] there's definitely ways that he could

[08:18] have done things independently. You

[08:20] don't always have to depend on the city.

[08:22] You don't always have to depend on the

[08:24] school. There's certain things that you

[08:25] could do yourself. And then you just

[08:27] front the bill and you say, "Hey,

[08:28] Charlie, just so you know, because of

[08:30] what you've decided, since Charlie's the

[08:33] one that decided to do this because he

[08:34] likes it." You say, "Hey, Charlie, guess

[08:37] what? You're getting charged an extra

[08:39] $5,000 on this one." Yeah, you are.

[08:42] Because you decided to do it this way

[08:44] and we need certain things to make sure

[08:46] that you're all good. What's Charlie

[08:48] going to say? No. Come on. And then it

[08:51] says in that law it says that they may

[08:54] determine where an ambulance is on

[08:56] standby.

[08:58] And I'm like, okay, well, they did have

[09:00] standby UTV medical there, but I can't

[09:04] make them make that, right? And uh first

[09:07] rule of emergency medicine when an EMT

[09:10] goes, because I've done this, if you

[09:12] don't walk into the room when you're

[09:13] doing your skills portion and say, "Hey,

[09:15] is the scene safe?" They fail you and

[09:18] you're done.

[09:20] Right. And so those medics that were

[09:22] around that buggy were nowhere to be

[09:24] found. Why? Cuz they're taking cover

[09:25] like everybody else.

[09:27] >> Mhm.

[09:28] >> And so and the type of wound that we

[09:31] had, it's not a wait till the ambulance

[09:33] gets there.

[09:34] >> Yeah.

[09:35] >> And and I'll talk about that and what

[09:37] that doc and transport and all that. So

[09:39] all that was known and all that's done

[09:41] in the workup. So look at so what he

[09:45] said right there, you know, um he said

[09:47] the ENTs were nowhere to be found. That

[09:49] was the thing that stuck out to me and I

[09:51] guess that was a thing that stuck out to

[09:52] a lot of you because a bunch of people

[09:54] said, "Hey, can you address that?" And I

[09:57] will with my video. Let's remember that.

[10:00] But let's also remember the EMTs were

[10:02] nowhere to be found. So now let's go

[10:04] over to this clip and let's not let's

[10:07] make sure I'm not playing it at three

[10:08] times speed. I am not. Okay, let's jump

[10:11] into this clip quickly. In fact, I'm

[10:13] going to jump ahead just a little bit.

[10:15] It's

[10:15] >> unknown. Um, uh, the body is an amazing

[10:18] thing that can do things even when it's

[10:20] technically, you know, destroyed. And

[10:23] so, uh, my concern is bleed control. And

[10:27] so, I'm just, uh, Rick's got me.

[10:28] Justin's driving. Um, world's coming by.

[10:32] Uh, I'm working uh putting I end up

[10:35] putting uh about 36 feet of uh uh

[10:40] dressing in him. Uh and then four uh

[10:44] 4x4s and then two hemistic 4x4s

[10:47] uh and and then just pressuring the

[10:49] whole time. So you're adding just

[10:50] pressure as much as you can get. Uh

[10:53] pressure adding pressure. And so uh um

[10:57] we are heading to the hospital. you

[10:59] know, it's a known. We're heading there,

[11:01] breaking intersections. Uh, we picked up

[11:04] a tail from PD somewhere along the way.

[11:07] Uh, and I know some audio came out about

[11:09] that. And I think they thought it was a

[11:11] secondary person that had been shot, you

[11:14] know, and and and but we didn't know it

[11:17] was an active shooter. You know,

[11:18] everybody that says, "Oh, you should

[11:20] have treated him there and not moved

[11:21] him. Stop the bleeding." I'm like,

[11:24] "Yeah, I know." Same way. I was like,

[11:26] man, if it No, that's not medicine

[11:28] doesn't happen on the X. You know, any

[11:31] nothing happens. Somebody shoots at you,

[11:32] you get off the X, right? And so, um,

[11:35] and we didn't have cover. We

[11:37] >> ju just for anybody that's listening,

[11:38] that is rule number one. Law

[11:40] enforcement, military, any security,

[11:43] anything, get off the X.

[11:45] >> Yeah. And

[11:47] >> yes, you know, Sean Sean just wanted to

[11:49] make sure we all knew that Sean's

[11:52] leading leading the interview in such a

[11:54] way. And I I'll even say this is as a

[11:58] prepared interview as it gets. I mean,

[12:01] Shawn has his questions and this guy

[12:04] definitely got to see those questions

[12:06] beforehand. You can tell how they

[12:08] converse during certain parts where

[12:10] Shawn asks about something. He says,

[12:11] "Hold on, let me just go down this."

[12:12] And, you know, it's it's very obvious

[12:15] what's going on here. You know, Shawn

[12:17] taking control and being like, "Let me

[12:19] just tell people about the X is a is a

[12:22] big thing." Now, what was the other

[12:25] thing I wanted to show you? There was

[12:26] something that just came to mind. Okay,

[12:28] so he says, "Let's get off the X."

[12:31] That's a fa That's fast. Let's find that

[12:33] via This is a little impromptu.

[12:36] Um, let's just say fast cuz I remember

[12:40] he said this was fast. Let's see.

[12:45] Fast-paced movement. No,

[12:47] that's fast. And this is horrible.

[12:51] Yes. Yes, there it is. Beautiful. So, he

[12:54] also says this. So, now remember the

[12:56] EMTs are nowhere to be found. You have

[12:59] to get off the X. You do not medicine

[13:01] does not happen on the X. Okay, remember

[13:04] that. Let's jump over here really quick.

[13:07] Okay. Uh we're trying to we're trying to

[13:10] give wound care and and we got to get

[13:13] off this X. All right. And so, uh but I

[13:16] just said we're Xville. And so, we got

[13:18] up. I think it was like 15 16 seconds

[13:20] from the time the shot happened to the

[13:22] time we were picking him up and hit him.

[13:24] >> 15 to 16 seconds.

[13:25] >> That's what it was. Yeah. And so

[13:27] >> that's fast. It And this is horrible,

[13:30] but

[13:30] >> that is fast to get an initial

[13:31] assessment, plug a hole, pick them up,

[13:33] move them.

[13:34] >> Yeah. So from right there, uh, we have

[13:37] three things. We have it took 15 seconds

[13:42] for him to do the assessment, plug the

[13:44] hole, and move him. Then we also have

[13:47] that you don't do medicine on the X.

[13:49] Even though those three things that he

[13:51] just did, that was a little bit of

[13:53] medicine on the X. And Sean let us know

[13:57] that it's really important to get off

[13:59] the X, which I don't doubt. But then we

[14:02] also have that the the EMTs were

[14:06] actually nowhere to be found cuz they

[14:07] were ducking for cover as well. Really

[14:10] hard to make that assessment when you

[14:12] only had 15 seconds. In that 15 seconds,

[14:15] you could have called over the people.

[14:18] You could have called them over or you

[14:19] could have got him off the X because it

[14:22] didn't even go from we have to get him

[14:24] off the X. It went from we're going to

[14:25] put him in a car and take him to the

[14:27] hospital right away. He made that

[14:28] assessment in 15 seconds. He could have

[14:31] made the assessment of I need an EMT

[14:33] right now because my medical kit is this

[14:36] big. And I'll show you in a second. The

[14:38] trauma bags that the two EMTs had were

[14:41] like suitcases. They were hu. They were

[14:42] like backpacks, I should say. Let's not

[14:44] overexaggerate. So, let's uh jump over

[14:47] to this video. Wow. Look at this guy

[14:50] looking charming. Wow. Shout out to

[14:52] Project Constitution for reposting so

[14:54] much of my stuff. I really really

[14:56] appreciate it, man, if you're watching.

[14:58] Uh now, let's uh watch this little

[15:00] breakdown of the EMTs. Blood inside

[15:02] someone's body. keep bring their vital

[15:05] signs back up if possible until an

[15:08] ambulance shows up and then they pass it

[15:10] off to people who have more equipment

[15:12] than them, not just trauma bags. I agree

[15:15] with that guy. I I definitely agree with

[15:16] that guy. I like his hat, too. Now,

[15:18] let's watch it again.

[15:21] For the people who didn't believe that

[15:22] those were EMS people, check this out.

[15:24] I'm going to silence this just because

[15:26] it's like some video track being played,

[15:28] but I'll go over it. So, that's Charlie

[15:29] being rushed off. EMS right there.

[15:34] So that means they didn't even have a

[15:37] chance to run up on Charlie when he was

[15:40] on the ground and that would have been

[15:42] the time to have Look, that's a trauma

[15:44] bag right there. Right. They're pointing

[15:48] to the fact that there are EMS guys in

[15:50] the background. So it's not like these

[15:52] guys weren't around.

[15:56] There he is. Walks. So he said they're

[15:59] nowhere to be found. The reason that I

[16:00] was showing this part of the clip is

[16:02] because they were right behind the tent.

[16:06] They were right around there. So for him

[16:09] to say that they were nowhere to be

[16:10] found, okay,

[16:13] it's not exactly true. They were there.

[16:16] They were there

[16:18] un no doubt. And on top of that, 15

[16:21] seconds, it didn't even give them enough

[16:24] time to get in to even go to work and

[16:28] try to do something to make him in a pos

[16:32] to to put Charlie in a position where he

[16:34] could be moved. They didn't even give

[16:36] him that time. And I didn't even know

[16:38] that when I made this video. I had no

[16:40] idea it was just 15. I knew it was fast

[16:41] cuz you could watch the footage and see

[16:43] it, but I didn't know it was just 15

[16:46] seconds. They didn't even have a chance

[16:47] to get over to Charlie by. He's on

[16:49] scene. This is the guy that should have

[16:52] been doing what the security guards were

[16:54] doing. And I'm not saying this out of uh

[16:57] an attack on him.

[17:00] The security should have the security is

[17:02] supposed to be working alongside

[17:07] the campus police and any EMS.

[17:11] And this is him and his boy. See, he's

[17:14] taking off that trauma bag because he

[17:16] wants to offer it up. Let me make sure

[17:18] you guys see it. He's offering up that

[17:20] trauma bag. So the one guy named Connor,

[17:23] he keeps his. But this guy says, "Hey,

[17:26] go ahead and take it.

[17:28] Like you can just have this. This would

[17:30] just make sense for you to have because

[17:33] you have somebody in there who clearly

[17:36] needs it." So that's Connor. That's

[17:39] Connor. I think his name is Dor Dhid.

[17:42] Connor Dhy. He's actually a vascular

[17:45] access technician. So, this guy is

[17:48] wellqualified to deal with many, many

[17:51] different things. And he could have

[17:52] dealt with what was going on with

[17:54] Charlie. Again, didn't really have the

[17:55] chance. His partner is actually behind

[17:57] him. He's off camera, but he his partner

[18:00] is the one that takes off his bag. I

[18:02] think you'll see that in a second.

[18:03] Right. They're ready to work. That's why

[18:05] they're walking up. They're ready to go.

[18:08] They're like,

[18:10] "Let us in the car. Why aren't we in the

[18:13] car? We have everything that you would

[18:16] need. The security guards have

[18:19] absolutely nothing

[18:22] except for whatever they were passing

[18:24] around, handing off here and there.

[18:26] That's all they got and their phones.

[18:28] That's it. So, that's actually not true.

[18:31] According to Brian, he said he had a

[18:32] little medkit in a in a little uh side

[18:35] bag that he had. So, just to correct

[18:37] myself on that. So, they actually did

[18:40] have a little something, but Connor and

[18:42] his partner had a whole lot more and

[18:44] they wanted to offer it up to the

[18:46] security team. That was a super closeup.

[18:49] Uh, this was the first video that people

[18:52] saw. And, uh, this is what I I shared

[18:55] this uh because this is what Candace

[18:58] missed. Uh, I was surprised she didn't

[18:59] bring it up at all, but you can see

[19:01] right here, you know, they're running

[19:03] up. EMT is just right behind them. right

[19:07] behind him. Right there. Boom. EMT guys.

[19:10] They're walking up. They're like, "What

[19:13] can we do?"

[19:17] Frank goes in the back. Not the EMT

[19:19] guys. The EMT guys are ready to work.

[19:20] They're like, "What's going on?" And in

[19:22] fact, you can see actually Connor takes

[19:24] off his bag here. Now, nobody can get a

[19:27] hold of Connor,

[19:28] but um I'm sure he feels terrible. 100%.

[19:32] I'm sure his partner feels terrible as

[19:34] well. But Connor is actually very well

[19:35] verssed. The only reason I learned about

[19:37] Connor is because Project Constitution

[19:38] actually uh he made sure to send me a

[19:42] bunch of information on him. And yeah,

[19:46] he's very well-versed in everything that

[19:49] has to do with EMT. Uh everything that

[19:51] has to do with treating people. It's

[19:54] what he does. It's not like he's a

[19:56] student and they're like, "Here's a

[19:57] trauma bag and just in case." No, no,

[19:58] no, no, no. He's actually very skilled

[20:00] and he wasn't given the chance to

[20:02] actually go to work. So again, you're

[20:05] not supposed to do medicine on the X,

[20:08] but you do a little bit of medicine on

[20:10] the X and then you have to get off the

[20:12] X. And the EMTs were nowhere to be

[20:15] found, yet they were right behind you as

[20:17] you were moving, which means that if

[20:19] they were right behind you, they were

[20:21] coming already. So you're saying in that

[20:23] 15 seconds, right? Cuz that's what he

[20:26] said. That's how long he said it take

[20:27] took to to to assess and start moving.

[20:30] In that 15 seconds, they were already

[20:33] making way to you. They weren't even

[20:35] worried about what he says he was

[20:37] worried about. They weren't worried

[20:38] about other shots. They were like,

[20:40] "There's the body. Let's go." And by the

[20:43] time they're getting to him, they're

[20:45] already picking him up and bringing him

[20:46] to the car. And then when they offer

[20:49] trauma bags, one of the guys, it's not

[20:52] Brian who uh who doesn't take the bag.

[20:55] Actually, let me see. It could be. I I

[20:59] don't I don't think it was Brian. It

[21:01] just seems like it was just one of the

[21:02] guys. No, that's that's Dan Flood. That

[21:05] right there is Dan Flood. That's the guy

[21:06] with the the tight tight sleeves.

[21:08] Everybody thought he was doing like a

[21:10] hand signal or whatever. Uh yeah, that's

[21:12] him. So, he kind of shoes them away.

[21:14] Just straight up ignores them. Now,

[21:16] also, I can be very charitable and say

[21:17] that there's a lot of adrenaline in this

[21:19] situation, right? There is. There has to

[21:21] be. You know, no matter what side of the

[21:25] spectrum you're on, they were security

[21:26] doing a job. They were incompetent

[21:29] complet like whatever you're thinking

[21:31] there's still adrenaline pumping right

[21:34] so

[21:36] I don't know man a lot of

[21:37] inconsistencies with this story just a

[21:39] whole bunch of inconsistencies and Shawn

[21:42] just

[21:43] Sean Shawn pushed it I mean I don't know

[21:47] man you know I've always said and I even

[21:49] said it on Shawn's interview on JRE he's

[21:53] the only guy that is you know he's a

[21:55] contractor for the agency But he's the

[21:58] only guy that when I see him and I hear

[22:00] him talk, I don't get that sense that I

[22:03] get from other guys like say Busamante

[22:06] or Mike Baker and all these different

[22:09] characters. I I don't get that from

[22:11] Shawn, but this was definitely

[22:15] one of those things. wouldn't say Sean's

[22:18] compromised or anything, but and again,

[22:21] yeah, I wouldn't say he's compromised,

[22:22] but I think that he knows this guy more

[22:26] than he's leading on. And I think he

[22:28] feels for this guy. That's the thing. I

[22:31] think I think he actually feels for him

[22:34] because why wouldn't you why wouldn't

[22:36] you feel for a guy like this? He's in

[22:39] your position. He knows the same type of

[22:41] people that you know. you guys are you

[22:44] guys are uh you've been through the same

[22:46] type of stuff. You're both Christian.

[22:49] Like, why wouldn't you feel for him? You

[22:51] know what I mean? So, I think it's that

[22:54] more than anything, but uh but that's me

[22:58] being nice. I'm sure a lot of you aren't

[23:00] aren't uh aren't feeling as as nice.

[23:02] You're not in the Christmas spirit yet.

[23:04] You're not there yet. What are we

[23:06] talking about? November's almost done.

[23:08] You got to get into the Christmas

[23:09] spirit, guys. Come on. Grace, grace. We

[23:13] must give people grace, right? Anyways,

[23:16] guys, I just wanted to bring that to

[23:18] you. I'll discuss this a little bit in

[23:19] the after show. Other than that, I'm out

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