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Could Drone Authorization at Utah Valley University Have Prevented the Charlie Kirk Assassination Attempt
A deep examination of Utah Valley University's drone authorization policy raises serious questions about security preparations before the assassination attempt on Charlie Kirk. While security team leader Brian Harpole claimed they couldn't fly drones due to airspace restrictions, UVU's official policy reveals a clear multi-step authorization process that could have been completed within the two-week advance timeline his team had on the ground. This analysis breaks down UVU Policy 705 on unmanned aircraft operations, compares it against statements made during the Shawn Ryan interview, and asks the critical question: Did Charlie Kirk's security team actually submit a request to fly drones, or did they simply rely on local law enforcement to handle aerial surveillance of the rooftops where the shooter ultimately positioned himself?
The Drone Question That Won't Go Away
Something doesn't add up about the drone situation at Utah Valley University before the Charlie Kirk assassination attempt. A detailed look at UVU's official drone policy raises serious questions about whether the security team did everything possible to protect their client. The central issue: Could a drone have prevented the tragedy by detecting the shooter on the rooftop before he fired?
The answer appears to be yes. A drone conducting aerial surveillance would have spotted someone climbing onto the roof or already positioned there, providing precious time to either neutralize the threat or evacuate Kirk from the danger zone. The security team wouldn't necessarily have needed to stop the shooter directly—simply identifying the rooftop threat and removing Kirk from the line of fire could have saved his life.
What Brian Harpole Said About the Drones
During his interview on the Shawn Ryan Show, security team leader Brian Harpole explained why his team didn't deploy drones for the event. His explanation centered on legal restrictions and jurisdictional limitations.
Harpole explained that his team arrives early for advance work, sometimes weeks ahead of an event. In this case, they were on the ground at UVU by the 24th of the previous month, giving them at least two weeks of preparation time. He mentioned that his company had invested thousands of dollars in drones and ensured his team members obtained proper FAA Part 107 licenses.
However, Harpole stated that if an area falls within certain airspace restrictions, he cannot legally fly drones there. He specifically mentioned restrictions in the Provo, Utah airspace and secondary limitations potentially due to heavy foot traffic at the school. His position was clear: "I can't go in and break the rules. There's laws for a reason."
Regarding who could have flown drones, Harpole noted that the school or the police department could have operated drones, but claimed they didn't have them available. Then, contradicting himself moments later, he acknowledged that the local police department actually does have an active drone unit with professionals he described as "awesome" who "get it."
The Mutual Aid Agreement That Wasn't Used
One of the most revealing parts of Harpole's interview was his discussion about mutual aid agreements. He explained that he started asking questions: Did the police department have a drone unit? Yes. Did they have a mutual aid agreement with the school? Yes. Did they call the school to ask for assistance? No. Did the school call them? No.
Harpole's position was that the police department could have called for help, and he could have called them as well, but there was "no reason he should have other people doing the work he gets paid to do."
His conclusion: "Table the drones, which would have been awesome. Absolutely. I believe in them, but I can't break the law to do it."
The interview revealed that rooftop coverage was supposedly being handled by police drones. The police department told him "I got you covered." Harpole acknowledged he did not verify this coverage himself. Shawn Ryan, the interviewer, pointed out diplomatically that it would have been a good idea to confirm that the police actually had drones deployed.
UVU's Official Drone Authorization Policy
What Harpole didn't mention in his interview is that Utah Valley University has a clear, established policy for authorizing drone operations on campus. UVU Policy 705, created in 2018 and available on the university's official policy website, outlines exactly how outside parties can obtain permission to fly drones on university property.
According to the policy, UVU strictly prohibits any unauthorized drone flights on university property. However, authorized operations are explicitly allowed if the operator completes UVU's required approval process.
The authorization process involves several specific steps:
- Submit a request of authorization to UVU Risk Management
- Provide a certificate of insurance
- Consult with the safety coordinator to verify FAA compliance
- Possess FAA credentials (Part 107 license)
- Receive a signed UVU flight authorization document
- Notify UVU police before flight
Operators must also register the drone with the FAA, follow all federal regulations, and ensure safety and privacy compliance. These are standard requirements for any professional drone operation.
Could It Have Been Done in Two Weeks?
The critical question becomes whether the security team had sufficient time to complete this authorization process. Based on the policy requirements and typical processing times, the answer appears to be a clear yes.
Breaking down the timeline for each requirement:
- Submit a request for authorization: Up to 48 hours
- Certificate of insurance: Approximately 3 days (if not already on file)
- FAA requirements: Immediate (if already Part 107 certified, which Harpole confirmed his team was)
- Risk management review: Up to 7 days
None of these steps inherently require extended lead times. The only potential delay would be if special FAA waivers were needed, which is rare for this type of situation and would likely be immediate to several days at most.
With two weeks of advance time on the ground, a competent security team with proper documentation could realistically complete the entire authorization process. The policy contains no minimum time requirements that would have made this impossible.
The Question Nobody Asked
Throughout his interview, Brian Harpole never mentioned actually attempting to go through UVU's drone authorization process. He didn't say he submitted a request that was denied. He didn't mention that the process took too long. He didn't indicate that he was unaware of the process.
He simply stated he couldn't fly drones in that airspace due to legal restrictions—restrictions that appear to have a clear workaround through the university's established authorization procedure.
This raises the fundamental question: Did the security team officially request permission to fly their drones at UVU using the established process?
If the team was as thorough as Harpole described—arriving early, building security infrastructure themselves, conducting extensive advance work—why wouldn't they have investigated how to get their drones authorized? A simple inquiry to UVU Risk Management would have revealed the authorization process.
Where the Responsibility Fell
During the Shawn Ryan interview, there seemed to be an attempt to distribute blame among various parties—UVU didn't provide drones, the police department didn't deploy theirs despite having them available, mutual aid agreements existed but weren't activated.
Shawn Ryan himself gently pushed back on this narrative, suggesting it would have been wise to verify the police drone coverage rather than simply trusting their assurance that they "got you covered."
The police chief apparently failed to deploy the drones his department possessed. The security team failed to verify that coverage. And based on the available evidence, the security team may have failed to even attempt securing their own authorization to fly.
Harpole's statement that "I can't break the law to do it" rings hollow when the law appears to have a clear pathway for legal compliance that simply required following an established procedure.
What This Means for Security Standards
If a competent security team with proper Part 107 licenses, insurance, and two weeks of advance preparation time failed to secure drone authorization through an established, accessible process, it represents a significant failure in due diligence.
The statement "they could have used them, they chose not to" becomes particularly damning in this context. It wasn't that drones couldn't be used—it's that the necessary steps to authorize their use apparently weren't taken.
A Freedom of Information Act request or similar public records request could potentially reveal whether any drone authorization request was submitted to UVU Risk Management before the event. That single piece of documentation would answer the central question definitively.
The Final Analysis
Based on UVU Policy 705 on unmanned aircraft operations, drone coverage of the rooftops was not only possible but appeared to be readily achievable within the timeline available. The policy structure is straightforward, the requirements are standard for professional operations, and the processing times are reasonable.
A drone conducting aerial surveillance almost certainly would have detected the shooter positioning himself on the rooftop, providing the critical early warning that could have saved Charlie Kirk's life.
Whether through the security team's own authorized drones or through properly verified police department coverage, aerial surveillance should have been part of the security plan. The failure to implement it—whether through lack of effort, lack of knowledge, or simple oversight—had tragic consequences.
The available evidence suggests this wasn't a situation where the law prevented proper security measures. It appears to be a situation where proper security measures simply weren't pursued through available legal channels.
Video Transcript
Hello and welcome back to Trigger.
Something caught my attention and I was
thinking about it and then one of you
sent me a very interesting document. So,
let's talk about the drones at UVU.
Could a drone have prevented Charlie
Kirk from getting assassinated?
Possibly, because they would have seen
someone on the roof, they even could
have seen him getting on the roof before
he took a shot. They could have had
theoretically plenty of time to pull
Charlie down. They don't necessarily
have to stop the shooter. They could
just say, "Oh, someone's on the roof.
Get Charlie out of there." Boom. They're
gone. Right.
So that could have saved his life for
sure. Now this new document that I'm
seeing if it is correct and if it is
true, which it appears to be, it is from
uvu.edu from their policies. This is
their official drone policy. But first,
I want to remind you what Brian Harpole
was saying about the drones and why they
didn't use them.
>> There are risks. You know, it was a risk
assessment when we come in. That's why
we get there. That's why we start doing
the advance so early. We walk it, you
know, we build it ourselves. They walk
it, they build it themselves, they get
there early. Now, from what he said, I
believe it was the 24th of the month
previous, so they had at least two
weeks.
>> And so, initially, we we have I spent
thousands of dollars on drones last year
and went and got the guy's license. But
>> that's a flex.
>> If the area lies in the Provo, Utah
airspace,
I can't fly it.
>> He's saying if it's in Provo, Utah
airspace, he cannot fly for whatever
reason. Okay. That's a 107B. The guy got
We can't break the rules, right? And
then you had secondary restrictions
probably due to heavy foot traffic for
the school, but I I can't go in and
break the rules. There's laws for a
reason. And then and so now the school
could have flown drones, the PD, but
they didn't have them.
>> So they're saying the school and the PD
did not have drones,
>> right? And then and then so but ORM PD
has a an a drone unit active.
>> So he just said they don't have drones.
Now he's saying they do have drones.
>> Professional. And that police
department, I will tell you right now,
is awesome. They are they get it. They
they were there. They helped both on the
soft side and the hard side. And so I
started asking questions like,
"Do you guys have a drone unit?" Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Good. Good. do you
have anou or a mutual aid agreement with
the school? And they're like, "Yeah." I
said, "Did they call you and ask for
assistance?" "No." "Did he call them and
ask for assistance?" "No." He could have
called just like the PD could have
called. There's no reason he should have
other people doing the work he gets paid
to do.
>> I'm like, "Why? Why wouldn't you call?"
>> We didn't get asked. And then so so
table the drones, which would have been
awesome. Absolutely. Uh, I believe in
him, but I can't break the law to do it.
>> So, he can't break the law, but UVU and
the PD apparently can fly there. So, I
don't know what special permission they
would have different than anyone else.
But when you get your Part 107, you go
through the same things as everyone
else. The drone has to be legal. You
have to know how to fly it legally. You
have to have your license. You have to
have the drone licensed. And then you
can't fly in certain areas, and you can
get permission to fly in certain areas.
Um, the drones would have been awesome,
but I can't break the law. They could
have used them. They chose not to.
>> And the rooftops were supposed to be
covered from the police drones.
>> PD said, "I got
>> I got you covered."
>> They said, "I got you covered." He did
not verify.
>> Got you covered. Be great if that chief
of police would have put that [ __ ]
drone up.
>> We' have had it or I'd have flown that
drone up his ass if we could have had
one.
>> And you have 3,000 other threats that
you're looking at. the rooftop
supposedly being covered by the police.
Maybe it would have been a good idea to
make confirm that the police had the
drones up.
>> There you go. So now Sean Ryan said it
and he's trying to be polite. You know,
he has the guest there. He doesn't want
to have a big confrontation with the
guest, but you have two CIA guys here
talking to each other basically trying
to clear the security team's name. Based
on what I've seen, this was less of an
interview and more of a let's clear the
name of the security team is what I get
from this. But he says it. It would have
been good to verify yourself. Now he's
saying it nicely. I feel like it was a
major ball dropped and that's why
Charlie's gone.
>> But I mean, you are talking to the chief
of police. You would think that he would
have the [ __ ] guns up.
>> Okay, so basically he's saying UVU
dropped the ball. The police dropped the
ball. He couldn't get permission or he
didn't want to break the law. Now,
nowhere in this did he say he actually
tried to get permission for them to fly
drones. I didn't hear him say that
anywhere. So now let's look at the
actual policy. All right. So now we are
over here at policy.uvu.edu.
And if you go to uvu.edu,
you'll see this is Utah Valley
University. So we're on the policy
subdomain. All right. So we look in
here, we have Utah Valley University
policies and procedures. This is for
unmanned aircrafts, right? Drones. And
this was created back in 2018.
So there's been plenty of time for this
to be established and be used there.
Now, if this is the latest one, I don't
know. There could be another one after
this. So, if someone else has a newer
one, I'd love to see it. But according
to this, I'm going to summarize it. But
this shows everything you need to know.
Who can do it, how to do it, what the
penalties are if you don't do it
correctly, and uh how to go about it,
right? This has everything. So, now
let's look at a summary of this. So, I
put in this exact document, drone
authorization requirements, and then I
said they had two weeks to actually do
this. Is that enough? Whether Charlie
Kirk security team could have legally
flown a drone over UVU rooftops, UVU
strictly prohibits any unauthorized
drone flights on university property.
However, authorized operation is allowed
if the operator completes UVU's required
approval process. Here's the process.
Submit a request of authorization to UVU
risk management. provide a certificate
of insurance. Consult with the safety
coordinator to verify FAA compliance.
Possess FAA credentials part 107
license. He said they all had licenses.
Receive a signed UVU flight
authorization document and notify UVU
police before flight. These are all
things that they could have done. The
question is, did they do it? Did they
actually submit a request to fly drones
there? Now, he said they're super
thorough. They go there early. They get
on the ground. They build stuff
themselves. Did they take the time to
build a request of authorization for a
drone? Operators must also register the
drone. That's kind of default if you
have a drone. Follow federal regulations
and ensure safety and privacy. Yes. So
that would be easy. So it says yes, a
private security team could legally
obtain permission to fly a drone over
the rooftops, but only if they completed
the full authorization process in
advance. So I was thinking, well, how
much in advance, right? How far in
advance does this have to happen? So
whether two weeks would have been enough
time for the security team. Nothing in
the policy gives a minimum time
requirement, but here's some like
justifications, right? Here's like some
some rough definitions of times that it
could possibly take. Submit a request
for authorization up to 48 hours.
Certificate of insurance showing that
maybe 3 days. FAA requirements, if
already part 107 certified, it's
immediate. Okay. Now, if there's any
special waiverss, which is pretty rare
for this kind of situation, that could
possibly cause delays, but it's saying
immediate to several days. Would several
days be more than two weeks? I don't
know. But he didn't say anything about
even trying to get any of this stuff.
Risk management review up to 7 days. So,
the conclusion, yes, 2 weeks is a fully
realistic and generally sufficient time
frame to obtain UVU drone authorization.
This assumes the team already had part
107, which Brian clearly said they did.
insurance paperwork was ready. It would
have to be for his business and the way
he operates. The request was submitted
promptly. I don't know. Was a request
submitted at all is the question. And no
complex FAA waiverss. So according to
UVU policy 705, drone operations on
campus are strictly prohibited without
prior authorization and require
multi-step process involving all these
different things. Okay. Given the
structure of these requirements, a
competent, it says competent security
team with proper documentation could
realistically complete the process in
two weeks as none of the policy steps
inherently require long lead times. So
that brings us to the big question. Did
they officially request to get
permission to fly their drones at UVU
using this process? Now, if they were
thorough, if they build everything
themselves and they're on the ground
early, a little bit more than two weeks
early, they would have had plenty of
time to ask how they can get a drone in
there, their drone in there, and get
this permission according to this
documentation. Now, there's something
different. If you know something, if
you're at UVU or you're a police officer
out there or something, let me know if
this is false, if this document doesn't
apply in that situation. But, as it sits
right now with this, it looks like they
could have, but they didn't. So, I
really want to know, did they actually
do that? Now, maybe a foyer request or
something would tell us if they applied
to actually get drone permission, but as
it sits right now, it sounds like he was
just looking to the police department
and UVU to do everything for him. Seems
a little strange to me, but as always,
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