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Dr. Todd Grande offers an updated analysis of the Charlie Kirk assassination case, examining the events of September 10, 2025, when Tyler James Robinson allegedly shot the conservative activist at Utah Valley University. Through detailed examination of text messages between Robinson and his transgender partner Lance Twiggs, family interactions, and the suspect's surrender, Dr. Todd Grande explores the possible motivations behind this political violence. The case raises questions about ideological extremism, the normalization of political violence, and the danger of celebrating the deaths of political figures across the ideological spectrum.
Background of the Case
Charlie Kirk was a conservative political activist and social media influencer who frequently traveled to college campuses for structured events where he engaged in conversations with students. He founded an organization called Turning Point USA, which actively promoted conservative values to college students and was considered a significant force in the world of U.S. politics.
Timeline of the Assassination
On September 10, 2025, Charlie Kirk was speaking at Utah Valley University in Orem, Utah. At 12:22 p.m., during a conversation with an audience member about transgender mass shooters, Charlie was shot once in the neck by a sniper and was later declared dead. According to authorities, the bullet that killed him was fired by a 22-year-old man named Tyler James Robinson, who was positioned on a roof 425 feet away.
Tyler had entered the campus at 11:51 a.m. He kept his head down and walked with an unusual gait consistent with having a rifle in his pants. At 12:15 p.m., he made his way to the roof. After shooting Charlie seven minutes later, Tyler fled and managed to escape from the campus. Police recovered the rifle he allegedly used in the murder. There were inscriptions on the ammunition consistent with anti-fascist ideology. There was also an inscription of a meme often used to troll members of the furry and transgender communities.
The Connection to Lance Twiggs
Tyler lived in an apartment in St. George, Utah with a male partner named Lance Twiggs. Lance was transgender and appeared to be in the process of transitioning at the time of the assassination, though it's not clear what stage he was in. Pictures have surfaced of Lance wearing gear consistent with the furry subculture, which has led some people to believe that he was a furry. A furry is an individual who identifies as an animal with human-like traits or who has an intense interest in this philosophy. Some furries wear animal costumes known as fursuits, and for a portion of the community, sexual activity can be a part of their furry adventure.
The Text Message Exchange
According to authorities, after the murder, Tyler exchanged messages with Lance. Tyler wrote, "Drop what you are doing. Look under my keyboard." Lance indicated that under the keyboard he found a note which read, "I had the opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk and I'm going to take it."
After reading this note, Lance wrote, "What? You're joking, right?" Tyler responded, "I am still okay, my love, but am stuck in Orem for a little while longer yet. Shouldn't be long before I can come home, but I got to grab my rifle still. To be honest, I had hoped to keep the secret till I die of old age. I'm sorry to involve you."
Lance wrote, "You weren't the one who did it, right?" Tyler responded, "I am. I am sorry." Lance said, "I thought they caught the person." Tyler replied, "No, they grabbed some crazy old dude, then interrogated someone in similar clothing." He then mentioned how he planned to grab his rifle from his drop point, but there was one vehicle lingering.
When Lance inquired as to Tyler's motive, Tyler said, "I had enough of his hatred. Some hate can't be negotiated out." Tyler then indicated that if he was able to grab his rifle, he will have left behind no evidence. He had not seen anything about the rifle being found.
Lance asked, "How long have you been planning this?" Tyler said, "A bit over a week, I believe." He then continued to talk about getting his rifle. There was a squad car parked near it. He wished he had circled back and grabbed it as soon as he reached his vehicle. He was worried what his father would do if he didn't bring back his grandfather's rifle.
Tyler was also worried about leaving prints on it. He talked about how he had engraved the ammunition with the meme "notices bulges" and might have a stroke if he sees it on Fox News. Tyler directed Lance to delete this exchange.
In the next series of messages, Tyler talked about how his father was requesting photographs of the rifle. He said since Trump was elected, his father has been pretty diehard MAGA. Tyler indicated he was going to turn himself in willingly. One of his neighbors was a sheriff's deputy.
His final message read, "You are all I worry about, love. I'm much more worried about you. Don't talk to the media, please. Don't take any interviews or make any comments. If anyone asks you questions, ask for a lawyer, and stay silent." That was the end of the chat conversation. Authorities said that Lance had nothing to do with Charlie Kirk's assassination and is cooperating fully with the investigation.
Tyler's Capture
Authorities also revealed the events that led up to Tyler's capture. On September 11, 2025, the day after the shooting, Tyler's mother saw a photograph of the shooter in the news. She believed it looked a lot like her son, Tyler, and called Tyler to ask where he was. He said he was at home sick and that he had also been home sick on September 10th. This assertion did not change the level of concern possessed by Tyler's mother.
She told Tyler's father that the suspected assassin looked like Tyler. Tyler's father agreed with her appraisal. The similarity between the photograph and Tyler wasn't the only clue that he may have been the assassin. Tyler's father believed that the rifle found by the police looked a lot like a rifle that was given to his son as a gift.
Tyler's father contacted Tyler and asked him to send a photograph of the rifle, but Tyler did not respond. This is something Tyler mentioned when exchanging messages with Lance. When Tyler's father spoke to him on the phone, Tyler implied that he would bring an end to his own life.
His parents were able to convince him to meet them at their home where the discussion continued. Tyler implied that he was the assassin and said he could not go to jail. When asked why he committed the murder, Tyler said there was too much evil and Charlie Kirk spread too much hate.
Tyler's parents convinced him to speak with a family friend who is a retired deputy sheriff. The friend and Tyler's parents persuaded Tyler to surrender, and Tyler was arrested that night.
The Charges
Five days later, on September 16, 2025, Tyler Robinson was charged with aggravated murder, discharge of a firearm causing serious bodily injury, two counts of obstruction of justice, two counts of tampering with evidence, and violent offense committed in the presence of a child. Prosecutors have filed a notice of intent to seek the death penalty for the aggravated murder charge.
Lethal injection is the primary method used in Utah, but if the state experiences any problems with that method, like a shortage of drugs or something, they are permitted under the law to use a firing squad.
Analysis: Contradictory Behavior
Tyler tried to get away with the murder and told Lance that he hoped to keep his homicidal behavior a secret until he died of old age. At the same time, he left a note under his keyboard for his partner to find, accepting responsibility for the assassination, and sent incriminating messages. This doesn't seem like a good plan for someone trying to get away with murder.
Tyler told his parents that he could not go to jail, but then quickly surrendered and is now facing life in prison or execution. There is the sense that Tyler does not appreciate the consequences of his behavior. He does not understand how he is in serious trouble.
There was likely a part of Tyler who wanted to get caught. He was looking forward to taking credit for killing Charlie Kirk. He couldn't even keep a secret for a few hours. Maybe Tyler tried to get away with the murder to leave himself options, but he knew all along his arrest was likely. Interestingly, now that he is in custody, Tyler is not talking to the authorities. Perhaps facing a severe penalty like life in prison or execution was not as much fun as Tyler had hoped.
The Firing Squad Option
As mentioned, Tyler Robinson could be executed by a firing squad. The state of Utah is no stranger to this method. The notorious killer Ronnie Lee Gardner was killed by a firing squad in Utah. He had actually fought to die from this method, claiming it would honor his Mormon heritage.
On June 18, 2010, Ronnie was positioned in front of five anonymous volunteers who were holding rifles chambered in 30-30 Winchester. Four of the rifles were loaded with live cartridges, and one was loaded with a cartridge fitted with a wax bullet. At 12:15 a.m., the volunteers shot Ronnie in the chest from 25 feet away, killing him.
To celebrate this accomplishment, the volunteers were given a commemorative coin. Now they can gaze upon those coins any time and contemplate their bravery. They can say things to each other like, "Hey, you remember that time we shot a guy who was strapped to a chair? Good times."
Tyler Robinson is going to have a lot of time on his hands to contemplate his fate. He was raised in a Mormon family, but a firing squad would probably not be his first choice to celebrate his Mormon heritage. He would probably be happier not being the focus of a commemorative coin.
Searching for Motive
The assassination of Charlie Kirk has generated a tremendous amount of interest. Many people are trying to figure out what motivated his alleged killer, Tyler Robinson. Some people are worried that the United States is on the brink of civil war, or at least a new era of frequent political assassinations. They believe that identifying Tyler's motive might be the key to turning the ship around. There's the sense that a lot is at stake.
At first, the ATF thought the inscriptions Tyler made on the ammunition revealed his support for both transgender and anti-fascist ideologies. Later, when the inscriptions were released, the anti-fascist component seemed clear, but not the transgender component. Furthermore, the inscriptions were associated with video gaming culture. It's possible that Tyler was not trying to communicate alignment with any specific ideology. Rather, he made the inscriptions based on memes that he was familiar with. This was regarded as a setback in terms of determining Tyler's motivation.
Now more information is available in the form of statements Tyler's mother made to the authorities. She indicated that her son Tyler had become more political in the last year or so. He started to lean more to the left and became more pro-gay and pro-trans rights oriented. In a conversation prior to the shooting, Tyler mentioned that Charlie would be holding an event at Utah Valley University and accused Charlie of spreading hate.
When considering Tyler's political shift and pairing it with the fact that Tyler lived with a transgender partner, the theory that he was motivated by transgender ideology seems to be plausible.
Conceptualizing the Case
With the information currently available, how would one conceptualize this case? This is just a theory, an opinion. Charlie Kirk was not a fan of the transgender ideology and would sometimes speak out against it. Tyler Robinson had adopted a lifestyle consistent with this ideology in the sense that his partner was transgender. He came to view Charlie as an enemy, someone who was judging his lifestyle, or at least the lifestyle of his partner.
It's also possible that Tyler viewed the situation as more existential, like Charlie's statements and the support he received could jeopardize the very existence of the transgender ideology. Tyler grew to hate Charlie and believed that he needed to do something about him. He justified his desire to kill by claiming that Charlie was spreading hate. Tyler was positioning himself as some type of hero, a person battling the forces of free speech and open dialogue.
It's possible that Tyler was insecure about his adoption of the transgender ideology. The judgment directed at the community by people like Charlie Kirk was too much for Tyler Robinson to handle. He was vulnerable, petty, vindictive, immature, and overly sensitive. Not really sure of himself at all.
Tyler may have been motivated by a desire to defend his lifestyle. It's also possible that Tyler was thinking about the larger picture. He wanted to elevate himself to a wider group of people in that community. Like Tyler was some type of champion fighting for his people. Either way, Tyler absolutely believed that he was correct. He was 100% confident that Charlie was wrong about the transgender ideology.
What's so frightening about this case is this level of confidence. There was no reasoning with Tyler.
The Danger of Political Violence and Celebration of Death
When political violence occurs, both sides try to deflect blame from their own belief system and assign blame to the other side. In this case, some people have looked at the conservative values of Tyler's family and said that being raised conservative must have contributed to Tyler's hate. Others have looked at Tyler's appreciation for the transgender ideology and placed the blame there.
In this case, it appears that Tyler adopted a political position on the extreme left, and this formed at least part of his motive. It's worth noting, however, that Tyler was not a sophisticated individual. He was not important or significant in any way. He was just a young man who became confused and full of hatred. Why would anyone assume that this man was wise or otherwise had something amazing to contribute to the rest of society?
His motive doesn't necessarily communicate a wider message about any of the ideologies that he embraced. Rather, this is about how he interpreted those belief systems. It is important not to generalize. Today, a man inspired by the left may commit a crime. Tomorrow, maybe it's a man inspired by the right. The day after that, who knows? There will always be someone who justifies committing violence based on political beliefs.
One of the keys to reducing political violence is the widespread and universal rebuke of this behavior. That is the real problem with this case, the real danger. Many people have celebrated Charlie Kirk's demise and perhaps inadvertently encouraged the next killer, whoever that might be. If violence against political figures becomes normalized, those who callously celebrate death will suffer along with everyone else.
Video Transcript
Hello, this is Dr. Grande. Today I will
offer an update on the case of Charlie
Cook and Tyler Robinson. First, I'll
look at a brief background of the case.
I've covered it a couple of times, move
to an updated timeline of the crime,
then offer my updated analysis. Charlie
Kirk was a conservative political
activist and social media influencer. He
would often travel to college campuses
and participate in structured events
where he would have conversations with
students. An organization he founded
called TurningPoint USA would actively
promote conservative values to college
students and was considered to be a
significant force in the world of US
politics. Now moving to the timeline of
the crime. On September 10, 2025,
Charlie Kirk was speaking at Utah Valley
University in Oram, Utah at 12:22 p.m.
during a conversation with an audience
member about transgender mass shooters.
Charlie was shot one time in the neck by
a sniper and was later declared dead.
According to the authorities, the bullet
that killed him was fired by a
22-year-old man named Tyler James
Robinson who was positioned on a roof
425 ft away. Tyler had entered the
campus at 11:51 a.m. He kept his head
down and walked with an unusual gate
consistent with having a rifle in his
pants. At 12:15 p.m., he made his way to
the roof. After shooting Charlie 7
minutes later, Tyler fled and managed to
escape from the campus. The police
recovered the rifle that he allegedly
used in the murder. There were
inscriptions on the ammunition
consistent with anti-fascist ideology.
There was also an inscription of a meme
often used to troll members of the furry
and transgender communities. Tyler lived
in an apartment in St. George, Utah with
a male lover named Lance Twigs. Lance
was transgender and appeared to be in
the process of transitioning at the time
of the assassination, but it's not clear
what stage he was in. Pictures have
surfaced of Lance wearing gear
consistent with the furry subculture,
which has led some people to believe
that he was a furry. A furry is an
individual who identifies as an animal
with human-like traits or who has an
intense interest in this philosophy.
Some furries wear animal costumes known
as fursuits. And for a portion of the
community, sexual activity can be a part
of their furry adventure. According to
the authorities, after the murder, Tyler
exchanged messages with his transgender
lover, Lance. Tyler wrote, "Drop what
you are doing. Look under my keyboard."
Lance indicated that under the keyboard
he found the note which read, "I had the
opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk and
I'm going to take it." After reading
this note, Lance wrote, "What? You're
joking, right?" Tyler responded, "I am
still okay, my love, but am stuck in
Orum for a little while longer yet.
Shouldn't be long before I can come
home, but I got to grab my rifle still.
To be honest, I had hoped to keep the
secret till I die of old age. I'm sorry
to involve you." Lance wrote, "You
weren't the one who did it, right?"
Tyler responded, "I am. I am sorry."
Lance said, "I thought they caught the
person." Tyler replied, "No, they
grabbed some crazy old dude, then
interrogated someone in similar
clothing." He then mentioned how he
planned to grab his rifle from his drop
point, but there was one vehicle
lingering. When Lance inquired as to
Tyler's motive, Tyler said, "I had
enough of his hatred. Some hate can't be
negotiated out." Tyler then indicated
that if he was able to grab his rifle,
he will have left behind no evidence. He
had not seen anything about the rifle
being found. Lance asked, "How long have
you been planning this?" Tyler said, "A
bit over a week, I believe." He then
continued to talk about getting his
rifle. There was a squad car parked near
it. He wished he had circled back and
grabbed it as soon as he reached his
vehicle. He was worried what his father
would do if he didn't bring back his
grandfather's rifle. Tyler was also
worried about leaving Prince on it. He
talked about how he had engraved the
ammunition with the meme notices bulges
and might have a stroke if he sees it on
Fox News. Tyler directed Lance to delete
this exchange. In the next series of
messages, Tyler talked about how his
father was requesting photographs of the
rifle. He said since Trump was elected,
his father has been pretty diehard MAGA.
Tyler indicated he was going to turn
himself in willingly. One of his
neighbors was a sheriff's deputy. His
final message read, "You are all I worry
about, love. I'm much more worried about
you. Don't talk to the media, please.
Don't take any interviews or make any
comments. If any, please ask you
questions, ask for a lawyer, and stay
silent." That was the end of the chat
conversation. The authorities said that
Lance had nothing to do with Charlie
Kirk's assassination and is cooperating
fully with the investigation. They also
revealed the events that led up to
Tyler's capture. On September 11, 2025,
the day after the shooting, Tyler's
mother saw a photograph of the shooter
in the news. She believed it looked a
lot like her son, Tyler, and called
Tyler to ask where he was. He said he
was at home sick and that he had also
been homesick on September 10th. This
assertion did not change the level of
concern possessed by Tyler's mother. She
told Tyler's father that the suspected
assassin looked like Tyler. Tyler's
father agreed with her appraisal. The
similarity between the photograph and
Tyler wasn't the only clue that he may
have been the assassin. Tyler's father
believed that the rifle found by the
police looked a lot like a rifle that
was given to his son as a gift. Tyler's
father contacted Tyler and asked him to
send a photograph of the rifle, but
Tyler did not respond. This is something
Tyler mentioned when exchanging messages
with his lover, Lance. When Tyler's
father spoke to him on the phone, Tyler
implied that he would bring an end to
his own life. His parents were able to
convince him to meet them at their home
where the discussion continued. Tyler
implied that he was the assassin and
said he could not go to jail. When asked
why he committed the murder, Tyler said
there was too much evil and Charlie Kirk
spread too much hate. Tyler's parents
convinced him to speak with a family
friend who is a retired deputy sheriff.
The friend and Tyler's parents persuaded
Tyler to surrender and Tyler was
arrested that night. 5 days later on
September 16, 2025, Tyler Robinson was
charged with aggravated murder,
discharge of a firearm causing serious
bodily injury, two counts of obstruction
of justice, two counts of tampering with
evidence, and violent offense committed
in the presence of a child. Prosecutors
have filed a notice of intent to seek
the death penalty for the aggravated
murder charge. Lethal injection is the
primary method used in Utah, but if the
state experiences any problems with that
method, like a shortage of drugs or
something, they are permitted under the
law to use a firing squad. Now, moving
to my analysis, here are my thoughts on
a few areas that stood out to me in this
case. Item number one, Tyler tried to
get away with the murder and told his
lover that he hoped to keep his
homicidal behavior a secret until he
died of old age. At the same time, he
left a note under his keyboard for his
lover to find, accepting responsibility
for the assassination and sent
incriminating messages to his lover.
This doesn't seem like a good plan for
someone trying to get away with murder.
Tyler told his parents that he could not
go to jail, but then quickly surrendered
and is now facing life in prison or
execution. There is the sense that Tyler
does not appreciate the consequences of
his behavior. He does not understand how
he is in a lot of trouble. I believe
there was a part of Tyler who wanted to
get caught. He was looking forward to
taking credit for killing Charlie Kirk.
He couldn't even keep a secret for a few
hours. Maybe Tyler tried to get away
with the murder to leave himself
options, but he knew all along his
arrest was likely. Interestingly, now
that he is in custody, Tyler is not
talking to the authorities. Perhaps
facing a severe penalty like life in
prison or execution was not as much fun
as Tyler had hoped. This brings me to
item number two. As I mentioned, Tyler
Robinson could be executed by a firing
squad. The state of Utah is no stranger
to this method. The notorious killer
Ronnie Lee Gardner was killed by a
firing squad in Utah. He had actually
fought to die from this method, claiming
it would honor his Mormon heritage. On
June 18, 2010, Ronnie was positioned in
front of five anonymous volunteers who
were holding rifles chambered in 3030
Winchester. Four of the rifles were
loaded with live cartridges, and one was
loaded with a cartridge fitted with a
wax bullet. At 12:15 a.m., the
volunteers shot Ronnie in the chest from
25 ft away, killing him. To celebrate
this amazing accomplishment, the
volunteers were given a commemorative
coin. Now they can gaze upon those coins
any time and contemplate their
astounding bravery. They can say things
to each other like, "Hey, you remember
that time we shot a guy who was strapped
to a chair? Good times." Tyler Robinson
is going to have a lot of time on his
hands to contemplate his fate. He was
raised in a Mormon family, but I imagine
a firing squad would not be his first
choice to celebrate his Mormon heritage.
he would probably be happier not being
the focus of a commemorative coin. Item
number three, the assassination of
Charlie Kirk has generated a tremendous
amount of interest. Many people are
trying to figure out what motivated his
alleged killer, Tyler Robinson. Some
people are worried that the United
States is on the brink of civil war, or
at least a new era of frequent political
assassinations. They believe that
identifying Tyler's motive might be the
key to turning the ship around. There's
the sense that a lot is at stake. At
first, the ATF thought the inscriptions
Tyler made in the ammunition revealed
his support for both transgender and
anti-fascist ideologies. Later, when the
inscriptions were released, the
anti-fascist component seemed clear, but
not the transgender component.
Furthermore, the inscriptions were
associated with video gaming culture.
It's possible that Tyler was not trying
to communicate in alignment with any
specific ideology. rather he made the
inscriptions based on memes that he was
familiar with. This was regarded as a
setback in terms of determining Tyler's
motivation. Now more information is
available in the form of statements
Tyler's mother made to the authorities.
She indicated that her son Tyler had
become more political in the last year
or so. He started to lean more to the
left and became more pro-gay and
protrans rightsoriented.
In a conversation prior to the shooting,
Tyler mentioned that Charlie would be
holding an event at Utah Valley
University and accused Charlie of
spreading hate. When considering Tyler's
political shift and pairing it with the
fact that Tyler lived with a transgender
lover, the theory that he was motivated
by the transgender ideology seems to be
plausible. This brings me to item number
four. With the information currently
available, how would I conceptualize
this case? This is just a theory, my
opinion. Charlie Kirk was not a fan of
the transgender ideology and would
sometimes speak out against it. Tyler
Robinson had adopted a lifestyle
consistent with this ideology in the
sense that his lover was transgender. He
came to view Charlie as an enemy,
someone who was judging his lifestyle,
or at least the lifestyle of his lover.
It's also possible that Tyler viewed the
situation as more existential, like
Charlie's statements and the support he
received could jeopardize the very
existence of the transgender ideology.
Tyler grew to hate Charlie and believed
that he needed to do something about
him. He justified his desire to kill by
claiming that Charlie was spreading
hate. Tyler was positioning himself as
some type of hero, a person battling the
forces of free speech and open dialogue.
It's possible that Tyler was insecure
about his adoption of the transgender
ideology. The judgment directed at the
community by people like Charlie Kirk
was too much for Tyler Robinson to
handle. He was vulnerable, petty,
vindictive, immature, and overly
sensitive. Not really sure of himself at
all. Tyler may have been motivated by a
desire to defend his lifestyle. It's
also possible that Tyler was thinking
about the larger picture. He wanted to
elevate himself to a wider group of
people in that community. Like Tyler was
some type of champion fighting for his
people. Either way, Tyler absolutely
believed that he was correct. He was
100% confident that Charlie was wrong
about the transgender ideology. What's
so frightening about this case is this
level of confidence. There was no
reasoning with Tyler. Now, moving to my
final item, number five. When political
violence occurs, both sides try to
deflect blame from their own belief
system and assign blame to the other
side. In this case, some people have
looked at the conservative values of
Tyler's family and said that being
raised conservative must have
contributed to Tyler's hate. Others have
looked at Tyler's appreciation for the
transgender ideology and placed the
blame there. In this case, I believe
that Tyler adopted a political position
on the extreme left, and this formed at
least part of his motive. It's worth
noting, however, that Tyler was not a
sophisticated individual. He was not
important or significant in any way. He
was just a young man who became confused
and full of hatred. Why would anyone
assume that this man was wise or
otherwise had something amazing to
contribute to the rest of society? His
motive doesn't necessarily communicate a
wider message about any of the
ideologies that he embraced. Rather,
this is about how he interpreted those
belief systems. It is important not to
generalize. Today, a man inspired by the
left may commit a crime. Tomorrow, maybe
it's a man inspired by the right. The
day after that, who knows? There will
always be someone who justifies
committing violence based on political
beliefs. I think one of the keys to
reducing political violence is the
widespread and universal rebuke of this
behavior. That is the real problem with
this case, the real danger. Many people
have celebrated Charlie Kirk's demise
and perhaps inadvertently encouraged the
next killer, whoever that might be. If
violence against political figures
becomes normalized, those who callously
celebrate death will suffer along with
everyone else. Those are my thoughts on
the case of Charlie Cook and Tyler
Robinson. Thank you so much for
watching.