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Charlie Kirk Assassination Sparks National Crisis: NewsNation Reports From Utah Valley University Crime Scene
NewsNation broadcasts a special edition from Orem, Utah, where conservative activist Charlie Kirk was assassinated during a Turning Point USA campus event. The coverage details the 33-hour manhunt that led to the arrest of Tyler Robinson, examines the alleged shooter's leftist ideology and social media activity, and captures the raw emotion of Kirk's widow Erika and thousands of grieving supporters. With flags at half-mast nationwide and President Trump planning to attend the funeral, the nation confronts questions about political violence, free speech, and whether America can heal from this tragedy.
Broadcasting From the Scene of a Political Assassination
NewsNation Prime delivered a special edition broadcast from Orem, Utah, where conservative activist Charlie Kirk was assassinated during a Turning Point USA event at Utah Valley University. Flags were lowered at the White House and across the nation as vigils grew from state houses to college campuses in the days following the shooting.
Behind the broadcast location, massive crowds gathered around the clock with American flags, wearing shirts reading "I Am Charlie Kirk" and "Peace in Christ." The emotional crowd remained at the site for days, determined to show they would not back down and would stand up for their American ideals despite the assassination that occurred there.
The Timeline of the Assassination
On Wednesday, September 10th at 12:00 PM local time, Charlie Kirk arrived at Utah Valley University's campus for the kickoff event of Turning Point USA's American Comeback Tour, the first of a planned 15-stop tour of colleges. Kirk took the microphone under a white tent in front of a crowd of several thousand people.
At 12:23 PM, while in the middle of his signature "Prove Me Wrong" debate with a student, a single shot rang out. Charlie Kirk was hit in the neck. Chaos unfolded as authorities launched an all-out manhunt, searching areas near campus while supporters gathered outside the hospital. Social media filled with calls for prayer as President Trump announced on Truth Social that "the great and even legendary Charlie Kirk is dead."
The 33-Hour Manhunt
The FBI initially took a person of interest into custody but later released them. Utah Governor Spencer Cox made a promise to the shooter: "We will find you. We will try you. And we will hold you accountable for this to the extent of the law."
Less than 24 hours after the murder, on September 11th at 10:00 AM, authorities turned to the public, releasing photos of the suspect caught on surveillance cameras. The FBI announced they had found the murder weapon and collected footwear impressions, a palm print, and forearm imprints for analysis. New video appeared to show someone on a roof during Kirk's event.
At 2:00 PM, President Trump hinted that authorities were closing in, stating "progress is being made." FBI Director Kash Patel arrived in Utah around 5:30 PM. By 8:00 PM, law enforcement released video of the suspect climbing down from the roof.
Vigils grew across the country, including outside Charlie's home in Scottsdale, Arizona. On Friday morning, September 12th, just after 6:00 AM local time, President Trump announced the breakthrough: the suspected shooter, Tyler Robinson, was in custody. He had been arrested at 10:00 PM the previous night in southern Utah after allegedly confessing to his father, who helped turn him in, marking the end of the 33-hour manhunt.
The Role of Technology and Family in Catching the Suspect
The FBI made historic progress in identifying the suspect thanks to facial recognition technology provided by Clearview AI. Authorities collected license plates from every parking lot adjacent to campus and obtained surveillance camera footage. However, it was Robinson's own family working with law enforcement that ultimately led to his capture.
A family member of Tyler Robinson reached out to a family friend who contacted the Washington County Sheriff's Office with information that Robinson had confessed or implied he had committed the shooting. The family member referenced a recent dinner prior to September 10th where Robinson mentioned that Charlie Kirk was coming to Utah. They discussed why they didn't like him, with the family member stating Kirk was "full of hate and spreading hate."
Robinson's father, recognizing his son in the released video footage, made the difficult decision to turn him in. Utah County Sheriff Mike Smith said of the father's decision: "I would have to imagine for me that would be the worst day of my life. The father absolutely did the right thing, but devastating. This action has changed the lives drastically of two families."
Profile of the Alleged Assassin
Tyler James Robinson is 22 years old and was not a student at Utah Valley University where the shooting occurred. He had been admitted to Utah State University on a prestigious academic scholarship but only attended for one semester. He was currently enrolled at Dixie Technical College and was in his third year.
Authorities say Robinson drove about 150 miles in a gray Dodge Challenger from his home in Washington, Utah. He walked from a parking spot north of campus to a wooded area and onto the campus where Charlie Kirk was surrounded by over 3,000 people. Utah Governor Spencer Cox stated that Robinson was "deeply indoctrinated with leftist ideology."
Authorities believe Robinson acted alone but say he was communicating with a roommate on the app Discord. The messages included references to retrieving a rifle from a drop point, leaving the rifle in a bush, watching the area where the rifle was left, and mentions of engraving bullets. The bullet casings contained inscriptions saying "Hey, fascist, catch" and "If you read this, you are dead."
Robinson is registered as an unaffiliated voter according to Utah state records and does not appear to have a criminal record. Neighbors who spoke to NewsNation expressed shock, stating they would never have guessed it would be him based on his personality and how he was raised, attributing the change to social media and friends who got him "going in the wrong direction."
Legal Proceedings and Death Penalty Considerations
Tyler Robinson is currently being held in the Utah County Jail awaiting a court appearance. While he has not been formally charged, aggravated murder was listed in the probable cause statement. Legal analyst Jesse Weber explained that aggravated murder is how prosecutors amplify the charge to the most serious crime in Utah, making the death penalty possible.
The idea is that this was a killing committed in circumstances that posed a grave danger to others. The suspect allegedly opened fire in an open crowd with thousands present. While the target was Charlie Kirk, opening fire with that many people around elevates the charge to the highest level felony in Utah.
Utah has the death penalty by firing squad, and with video evidence capturing the entire assassination, prosecutors would appear to have a strong case. However, Weber cautioned that death penalty cases can be complicated, noting that even in cases like the Parkland school shooting, juries sometimes choose life in prison instead.
Charlie Kirk's Widow Speaks
In an emotional speech addressing the nation, Charlie Kirk's wife Erika Kirk delivered a powerful message: "The evildoers responsible for my husband's assassination have no idea what they have done. They killed Charlie because he preached a message of patriotism and love. They should all know this: if you thought that my husband's mission was powerful before, you have no idea what you just unleashed."
Erika posted a video beside her husband's casket, holding his hand and saying "I love you, I love you, I know, I miss you so much." She spoke about their three-year-old daughter asking where her father was: "When I got home last night, our daughter just ran into my arms. She said 'I miss daddy.' I said 'I miss him too, baby.' She said 'Where is he?' I said 'He's on a work trip' which he does so he can afford your blueberry budget."
The Kirk family includes their three-year-old daughter and one-year-old son. President Trump announced he will award Charlie Kirk the Presidential Medal of Freedom posthumously and plans to attend his funeral scheduled for Sunday in Arizona.
Charlie Kirk's Legacy of Dialogue
Charlie Kirk had a remarkable gift for connecting with young Americans through his podcast, public speaking engagements, and his signature "Prove Me Wrong" debates on college campuses. In these debates, Kirk would sit under a tent with a sign inviting students to challenge his views.
Friends and colleagues noted that while some of Kirk's debates went viral for being "spicy," most were actually conversational and respectful. Elizabeth, a friend of Kirk's, explained: "The fact is most of what he did end up being respectful. What I loved about this was people walking away not only with a new respect for Charlie, but with a new respect for the idea of debating with or even just speaking to those that have different opinions from their own."
She continued: "The sad thing is that people are missing what I think is actually the main point of what Charlie was trying to do. They have an opinion about his own opinions, and that's great. But they're missing the fact that he actually cared about their opinions and he wanted to know where they were coming from. He wanted to debate people. He wanted to bring as much information as he could to the table because that's how much he respected other people and their viewpoints."
Kirk's Message to Young Americans
In his campus debates and speeches, Charlie Kirk addressed issues facing young Americans with directness and passion. He spoke about the declining marriage and birth rates: "According to current projections, one-third of today's young Americans will never get married. The average American is having fewer children than ever before. It's because for far too many, they simply can't afford it. The basic things our parents enjoyed are increasingly out of reach for Gen Z and Millennials. The American dream has become a luxury item for the wealthy elites."
Kirk emphasized the importance of family and lasting values: "We should tell our young ladies that if you want to go be the CEO of a shoe company, that's fine. But you know what's really going to matter 30 years from now? Whether or not you have the love of your life and you've decided to raise children. It doesn't matter how many trips to Thailand you make. It doesn't matter how many nights out at the club. What matters is what lasts and what matters is things that are hard."
On Christianity, Kirk stated: "Christianity is the greatest gift I think that humanity has ever had to live under in history. Christianity as we know it is the greatest moral ethic. These are things you agree with: love the stranger, have justice, love thy neighbor as yourself like Leviticus 19. These are beautiful teachings. In fact, they're so beautiful that you think that they're common when the rest of the world doesn't always have them. Even freedom of speech and natural rights and charity are all Christian values."
Community Response and Trauma
For those who were at the event, literally feet away from the shooting, the trauma has been unbearable with PTSD setting in. Elliot Overall attended the event with his wife and baby. He was eight feet away from Charlie Kirk when the shot rang out.
Overall described his experience: "The trauma of experiencing something like that is something I'll take with me forever. You have two decisions: fight or flight. For me, the biggest thing I cared most about was my family. As any dad or husband would hopefully do, the biggest thing for me was making sure my family was not going to get hit or taken to a place where they were going to be unsafe. The only thing I could think of was covering them with my body."
He emphasized the broader implications: "I feel terrible for all the people that experienced this. There's thousands of people there that all witnessed an assassination of a wonderful human that we were all there to just witness debate in a free country, having a debate where we got to be able to watch different opinions happen back and forth to each other, and somebody was killed over their belief systems."
Overall called for addressing the deeper issues: "We are developing a society where people are being taught not to feel their feelings and talk about their feelings. People are suffering in silence and we're having massive blowups everywhere. So this is a mental and emotional spiritual crisis that I hope that we as a society start to really take a look at how safe we're being with giving people the opportunity to talk about what's really going on inside themselves."
Social Media Reactions and Concerns
Elizabeth, Kirk's friend, expressed shock and fear at the reactions on social media: "I am distraught. I can't believe how naive I was to still be surprised by the reaction. Every moment I find myself on the internet seeing a new despicable response from someone, I am baffled that this kind of hatred exists."
She continued: "On a personal level, I'm scared because there's so many people out there who knew nothing about Charlie Kirk and are celebrating his death, and that would mean that they would want the same thing for me and my friends in the movement or my own family probably. I'm scared for what it means for the future of America because I know that there is so much hate in people's hearts and politics has divided us at a level that I've never seen in my lifetime."
Some people in high positions at companies and different organizations said awful things on social media, with some even celebrating the assassination. Some companies went as far as firing people for their comments. Elizabeth expressed concern about the pervasiveness of this hatred: "I was scared to know these people are existing in our healthcare institutions. They're teaching children, they're college professors. When you're leaving these people's rooms, you are learning from them and you're obviously not learning policy. You're not learning history. You're not getting proper healthcare. You're getting indoctrinated and you're getting filled with hatred."
Law Enforcement Response
Utah County Sheriff Mike Smith and Undersheriff Sean Buford described the intense 33-hour investigation. Smith stated: "Nonstop work. I'm so proud of our sheriff's department and all of our brothers and sisters in law enforcement. This valley, everybody came together. Over 33 hours it was no sleep and go to work. From minute one, 50 minutes in, there were 300 cops here. Guys and gals leaving the gym in their gym clothes, off duty with their families. They jumped in, threw their battle gear on and went to work."
The decision to release video footage and enhanced stills of the suspect to the public proved crucial. FBI Director Kash Patel tweeted: "Against all odds and some recommendations, we demanded the video footage and enhanced stills of the suspect be released to the public." Robinson's father recognized his son in that released video, which ultimately led to turning him in to authorities.
Questions About Security and Prevention
NewsNation confirmed with the sheriff that Charlie Kirk was not wearing a bulletproof vest at the time of the shooting, though it likely would not have made a difference as he was shot in the neck. The event took place on an open campus with thousands of attendees, raising questions about security protocols for high-profile speakers at public universities.
The investigation revealed that authorities are still gathering details about the planning that went into the attack, including how many times Robinson came to scope out the location and the roof. These critical details will be important for the trial and for understanding how to prevent similar incidents in the future.
A Nation at a Crossroads
Sheriff Smith reflected on the moment America faces: "I think we have a choice in front of us. We could get better or it could be a moment where we could get worse. I truly hope we get better. I think that's what most people want. But I think there's an element of our society that isn't on board with that, that they would like to keep this going."
The Undersheriff noted the political divisions: "Social media is just not good. People get in these groups and politically we're so politically divided now. That's sad because we need to stand together."
As the broadcast concluded, thousands continued to gather at the site, holding vigils and showing their support. The "I Am Charlie Kirk" movement emerged spontaneously, with people wearing shirts and carrying signs with that message. Elizabeth observed: "I don't even know what the movement is worth without one of the leaders that we had. I don't know if it was worth the loss of such a great soul. Unfortunately, sometimes it takes some of the worst situations possible to inspire people to finally go out there and speak up."
She concluded with a unifying message: "I hope people on the left, people who disagree with Charlie, realize we are all Charlie Kirk. We're just Americans with opinions and a bunch of people disagree with those opinions. But it doesn't matter if you're on the right or the left. As long as you love your fellow American and you're ready to discuss those opinions, you are also Charlie Kirk."
Video Transcript
>> POLITICAL ICON ASSASSINATED IN BROAD DAYLIGHT. AND FOR A KILLER, I WOULD NEVER GUESS THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN HIM IN A COUNTRY AT A CROSSROADS. THIS CUTS TO THE VERY FOUNDATION OF WHO WE WHO WE HAVE AND AND WE COULDN'T BE A SPECIAL EDITION OF NEWS NATION. PRIME STARTS RIGHT NOW. >> FLAGS LOWERED AT THE WHITE HOUSE AND ACACROSS THENATION TONIGHT AND VIGILS GROWING FROM STATE HOUSES TO COLLEGE CAMPUSES JUST DAYS AFTER CONSERVATIVE ACTIVISTS NIKON CHARLIE KIRK WAS ASSASSINATED HERE IN UTAH. GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY. I'M BRIAN LIVE FROM OREM, UTAH FOR A SPECIAL EDITION OF NEWS NATION. PRIME JAIME, I YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE GATHERING. THERE IS A MASSIVE CROWD. >> AND HERE FOR DAYS. I WITH AMERICAN FLAGS. I TOO. REMEMBER CHARLIE KIRK THEIR EMOTIONAL. THEY'RE STILL TRYING TO GET OVER WHAT THEY SAW HERE. THEY'RE WEARING SHIRTS LIKE I AM CHARLIE KIRK PEACE IN CHRIST AND THERE WAS A SIGN THAT I JUST TOOK A PICTURE SENSE. IF YOU BELIEVE IN SOMETHING, YOU NEED TO HAVE THE COURAGE TO FIGHT FOR THOSE IDEAS, NOT RUN AWAY FROM THAT. THESE PEOPLE SAY THEY WANT TO COME OUT HERE. >> TO SHOW THAT THEY WILL NOT BACK DOWN AND THEY WILL SHOW THE WORLD. THEY'RE STANDING UP FOR THEIR AMERICAN IDEALS LIGHT THE ASSASSINATION THAT HAPPENED HERE 3 DAYS AGO. THE KICKOFF TO 1 OF CHARLIE KIRK'S FAMOUS COLLEGE TOURS ENDED IN SHOCK AND HORROR TONIGHT AND ALLEGED ASSASSIN IS BEHIND BARS AND HAS BECOME ON THE AIR. WE HAVE BRAND NEW INFORMATION TO SHARE ABOUT THAT SUSPECTED SHOOTER. HIS NAME IS TYLER ROBINSON. >> UTAH GOVERNOR SPENCER COX TELLING THE WALL STREET JOURNAL THAT ROBINSON WAS, QUOTE, DEEPLY INDOCTRINATED WITH LEFTIST IDEOLOGY THAT IS NEW COMING OUT TODAY. WE'RE GOING TO BE DIGGING INTO THAT MORE IN JUST A FEW MOMENTS. ALSO, NEW TONIGHT TURNING POINT USA THE ORGANIZATION FOUNDED BY CHARLIE KIRK ANNOUNCING HIS FUNERAL IS SCHEDULED FOR NEXT SUNDAY IN ARIZONA, PRESIDENT TRUMP SAYS HE'S PLANNING TO ATTEND. AND WE ARE ALSO HEARING FROM CHARLIES WIFE AND THAT ERIC OCCUR IN AN EMOTIONAL SPEECH ADDRESSING THE NATION. HIGHLY HIGHLY EMOTIONAL. TAKE A LISTEN TO THIS. >> THE EVILDOERS. RESPONSIBLE FOR MY HUSBAND'S ASSASSINATION. HAVE NO IDEA. BUT THEY HAVE DONE. THEY KILLED CHARLIE BECAUSE HE PREACHED MESSAGE PATRIOTISM. AND I'VEOT SUPPLE LOVE. THEY SHOULD ALL KNOW THIS. IF YOU THOUGHT. THAT MY HUSBAND'S MISSION. WAS POWERFUL BEFORE. YOU HAVE NO IDEA. YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU JUST HAVEN'T LEE CHARLIE KIRK'S. >> CHARLIE KIRK'S DEATH HAS NOT ONLY ROCKED THE POLITICAL LANDSCAPE BUT HAS IMPACTED MANY EVERYDAY AMERICANS. I DEEPLY THERE'S OUTRAGE. THERE IS GRIEF FOR HIS LOVED ONES, INCLUDING HIS WIFE AND YOUNG KIDS. AND YOU CAN SEE IT EVEN BEHIND NOW, AGAIN, THIS CROWD. HE'S BEEN HERE ALL AROUND THE CLOCK. I'VE BEEN HERE FOR 3 DAYS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT. THERE'S PEOPLE OUT THERE. PEOPLE WHO SAW THE ASSASSINATION HAPPENED. STILL TRYING DEAL WITH THAT GRIEF BUT ALSO WANT TO SHOW THE WORLD. >> AND THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BACK DOWN. THEY ARE AMERICAN. >> OVER THE NEXT HOUR. WE WILL TAKE YOU INSIDE THE INVESTIGATION. THE TECHNOLOGY USED TO IDENTIFY THE SUSPECTED SHOOTER. AND YOU HEAR FROM CHARLIE KIRK IN HIS OWN WORDS. HE'S TAKES IN DEBATES FROM THE LIBRARY OF TURNING POINT USA. THERE'S SO MUCH TO GET TO TONIGHT. BUT FIRST, LET'S BEGIN BY GOING BACK TO WEDNESDAY. SEPTEMBER RIGHT HERE IN UTAH VALLEY. UNIVERSITY'S CAMPUS RIGHT BEHIND ME. >> 12:00PM LOCAL TIME. THAT'S BUSY DAY ON UTAH VALLEY UNIVERSITY'S CAMPUS. CHARLIE KIRK ARISE FOR TURNING POINT USA'S EVENT. THE AMERICAN COMEBACK TOUR. IT'S THE FIRST OF A 15 STOP TOUR OF COLLEGE IS SOMETHING CHARLIE KIRK HAS BECOME FAMOUS FOR. >> CHARLIE KIRK TAKES THE MIC UNDER WHITE TENT IN FRONT OF A CROWD OF A COUPLE HOURS. >> FROM THE LIVES THAT UTAH HAS SOFTENED. >> 12:23PM. HE'S IN THE MIDDLE OF HIS SIGNATURE PROVE ME WRONG DEBATE WITH THE STUDENT. YOU KNOW HOW MANY NATIONAL OR THEY'RE IN ERICA OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS COUNTING OR NOT COUNTING ENGLAND'S GREAT. A SINGLE SHOT RINGS OUT. CHARLIE KIRK IS HIT IN THE NECK. >> CHAOS UNFOLD. CONFIRM WITH T HAVE THE SHOOTER CUSTODY. IT'S AN ALL-OUT MANHUNT AS AUTHORITIES SEARCH THE AREAS NEAR CAMPUS SUPPORTERS GATHERED OUTSIDE THE HOSPITAL. SOCIAL MEDIA WAS FILLED WITH CALLS FOR TO 40 PRESIDENT TRUMP ANNOUNCED ON TRUTH SOCIAL. >> THE GREAT AND EVEN LEGENDARY CHARLIE KIRK IS DEAD. LATER THAT DAY. THE FBI SAYS THEY HAVE A PERSON OF INTEREST IN CUSTODY. THAT PERSON IS LATER RELEASED. BUT UTAH GOVERNOR SPENCER COX MAKES ONE THING CLEAR. >> BUT I WANT TO MAKE IT CRYSTAL CLEAR RIGHT NOW TO WHOEVER DID THIS. WE WILL FIND WE WILL TRY TO AND WE WILL HOLD YOU ACCOUNTABLE FOR THIS. THE EXTENT OF THE LAW SEPTEMBER 11TH 10:00AM LOCAL TIME. LESS THAN 24 HOURS AFTER CHARLIE KIRK WAS MURDERED. >> AUTHORITIES TURNED TO THE PUBLIC, RELEASING NEW PHOTOS OF THE SUSPECT CAUGHT ON SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS. THE FBI ALSO ANNOUNCES THEY HAVE FOUND THE MURDER WEAPON. INVESTIGATORS HAVE ALSO COLLECTED FOOTWEAR IMPRESSION, A PALM PRINT AND FOREARM IMPRINTS FOR ANALYSIS. NEW VIDEO APPEARS TO SHOW SOMEONE ON THE ROOF DURING CHARLIE KIRK'S EVENT. 02:00PM. THE PRESIDENT HINTS THAT AUTHORITIES ARE CLOSING IN PROGRESS IS BEING MADE. >> IT IS AN ANIMAL TAL ANIMAL AND WE WILL DEAL WITH A VERY APPROPRIATE 05:30PM, FBI DIRECTOR KASH PATEL ARRIVES IN UTAH AROUND 08:00PM. A NEW UPDATE FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT VIDEO OF THE SUSPECT CLIMBING DOWN FROM THE ROOF. >> SO HERE YOU SEE THE SUSPECT RAN BEHIND THAT FOR. UPPER BUILDINGS ARE COME OUT ON THE RIGHT MOVES TO THIS FAR RIGHT CORNER. AS HE DOES. HE'S GOING CLIMB OFF THE EDGE. AND THEN DROP DOWN TO THE GROUND. >> VIGILS GROW ACROSS THE COUNTRY. INCLUDING SEVEN-YEAR CHARLIE'S HOME IN SCOTTSDALE ARIZONA. FRIDAY MORNING. SEPTEMBER 12 JUST AFTER 06:00AM LOCAL TIME PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP ANNOUNCES THE NEWS. I >> WITH A HIGH DEGREE OF CERTAINTY. WE HAVE HIM. U.S. CITY GUY IN EVERYONE DID A GREAT SUSPECTED SHOOTER. TYLER ROBINSON IS IN CUSTODY. ARRESTED AT 10:00PM THE PREVIOUS NIGHT IN SOUTHERN UTAH AFTER ALLEGED CONFESSION TO HIS FATHER. >> WHO HELPED TURN HIM IN MARKING THE END OF A 33 HOUR MANHUNT. >> GOOD MORNING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE GOT HIM IN 33 HOURS WE HAVE MADE HISTORIC PROGRESS FOR CHARLIE, THIS WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE WITHOUT YOU. THE MEDIA AND YOU THE PUBLIC. THAT'S WHY WE WENT SO PUBLIC SO FAST AND WE'RE SO TRANSPARENT. WE'RE COMMITTED TO THE TRANSPARENCY. >> ALRIGHT 33 HOURS. THAT'S HOW LONG IT TOOK TO FIND THIS ELECTION SASS. AND I WANT TO BRING IN UTAH COUNTY SHERIFF MIKE SMITH NOW ALSO UNDER SHERIFF SEAN BUFFED. AND THANK YOU BOTH FOR BEING WITH A FREEZE ON. SO SORRY FOR WHAT HAPPENED HERE SUCH A BEAUTIFUL PART OF THE COUNTRY WAS SURROUNDED BY MOUNTAINS AND TO THINK THAT THIS EVENT HAD TO HAPPEN HERE. I I'M REALLY SORRY PEOPLE ARE SO EMOTIONAL. THE CROWD BEHIND US. HOW IS THE COMMUNITY DOING? >> I THINK NOT JUST THIS COMMUNITY. NATION. AND I THINK WE'RE A LOT OF THE WORLD WHERE THEY THIS WAS A BALL. YEAH. THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY HERE. >> IT'S UNFORTUNATE HAPPENED ANYWHERE. BUT COURSE WE DIDN'T WANT THIS IN OUR COMMUNITY. IT'S JUST TIME IT'S EVIL THAT INTERNET. >> UNDERSHERIFF THIS MORNING. THE GOVERNOR SAID THAT THIS WAS A PERSON WHO WAS DEEPLY INDOCTRINATED WITH LEFTIST IDEOLOGY. WE'VE HEARD SO MUCH ABOUT SOCIAL MEDIA AND HOW YOUNG PEOPLE GET INDOCTRINATED INTO ALMOST LIKE A COLD YEAH. >> SOCIAL MEDIA IS JUST IT'S JUST NOT GOOD FOR YEAH. AND I DON'T PROBABLY OLD SCHOOL, ALL JUST REALLY THEY GET IN THESE GROUPS. YEAH, >> AND POLITICALLY WE'RE SO POLITICALLY DIVIDED NOW WE AND YEAH, THAT'S SAD BECAUSE WE NEED TO STAND TOGETHER. >> THINGS ARE DIVIDED RIGHT NOW. THEY CAN GET BETTER. >> DO YOU THINK, SHERIFF, THAT THIS IS A MOMENT IN AMERICA WHERE THINGS COULD GET BETTER. >> I THINK I THINK I THINK WE HAVE A CHOICE IN FRONT OF WE COULD GET BETTER OR IT BE A MOMENT WHERE WE COULD GET WORSE. I MEAN, TRULY HOPE GET BETTER THAT THAT I THINK THAT'S ALL MOST PEOPLE. BUT I THINK THERE'S AN ELEMENT OF OUR SOCIETY THAT ISN'T ON BOARD WITH THAT THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO. >> TO KEEP THIS GOING. WITH VITRIOL IS JUST POURING IN. OVER OR SOMEONE'S DEATH. SOMEONE THAT, YOU KNOW, WAS EXERCISING HIS FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS IT'S. >> IT'S UNBELIEVABLE. >> I MEAN, THIS IS THE SCENE OF AN ASSASSINATION BEHIND US THAT THE WHOLE WORLD IS PAYING ATTENTION TO. YOU CONCERNED IS THERE ANY CONCERN HERE. >> FEELINGS AND EMOTIONS THEY RISE. WATCH. >> ALL RIGHT. A LOT OF GUYS MIGHT REALLY IF YOU THINK REALLY REALLY COOL TO GOT 33 HOURS IN THE MANHUNT WAS HAPPENING TO ME. THE WHOLE COUNTRY WAS ON EDGE. TAKE US BEHIND THE SCENES, LITTLE BIT. WHAT WAS GOING ON. YOU KNOW, THERE'S A BIG OPERATION CENTER BEHIND US. >> NONSTOP WORK. NONSTOP WORK. I'M SO PROUD OF OUR SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. AND JUST THE ALL OF OUR OTHER BROTHERS AND SISTERS LAW ENFORCEMENT. THIS VALLEY EVERYBODY'S CAME TOGETHER. JUST OVER 33 HOURS. IT WAS NO SLEEP AND GO TO WORK. AND FROM OUR MINUTE 1 OF THE SO IMPRESSIVE. THAT 50 MINISTERS 3 100 COPS HERE. GUYS. GALS LEAVING THE GYM AND THEIR GYM CLOTHES THAT WITH THE FAMILIES OFF DUTY. >> THEY JUMPED TO BE ABLE TO LET YOU HEAR ROLLED BATTLE GEAR ON AND GO TO WORK. >> SEOUL. >> PRETTY LUCKY HERE IN UTAH COUNTY. ALL WORK TOGETHER. AND JUST GET A >> I WANT TO ASK YOU, SHERIFF, THERE WAS A TWEET. PULL UP FBI DIRECTOR KASH PATEL WITH THE START TODAY. HE SAID AGAINST ALL ODDS FOR SOME RECOMMENDATIONS. WE DEMANDED THE VIDEO FOOTAGE AND ENHANCE STILLS AND THE SUSPECT BE RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC. >> ROBINSONS FATHER DIVORCED SUSPECT WHO ULTIMATELY TURNED HIM IN TO AUTHORITIES TOLD LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT RECOGNIZED HIS SON IN THAT RELEASE VIDEO. >> I KEEP THINKING ABOUT THAT FATHER. I MEAN, AND IF YOUR DAD BUT THAT THAT TOOK A LOT OF COURAGE. I THINK YET. >> TICKETS MENDIS I I WOULD HAVE TO IMAGINE FOR ME. THAT WOULD BE THE WORST DAY OF MY LIFE. TO TO HAVE TO DO THAT. THE FATHER ABSOLUTELY DID THE RIGHT THING. BUT DEVASTATING. I MEAN, THIS THIS ACTION HAS CHANGED THE LIVES DRASTICALLY OF 2 FAMILIES. AND YES, HE. I HAVE MY HATS OFF TO THE FATHER. THE MOTHER FOR DOING THE RIGHT HAD TO BE THE HARDEST AND LIKE. >> UNDERSHERIFF. DO YOU THINK LEARN MORE SOON ABOUT WHAT PLANNING WENT INTO THIS BECAUSE THAT'S ONE THING THAT WE STILL HAVE SO MANY QUESTIONS ABOUT AND IT HAPPENED RIGHT IN YOUR COUNTY ME HOW MANY TIMES CAME HERE DID YOU KNOW, SCOPE OUT THE ROOF. >> WE'LL WE'LL LEARN THAT THE CRITICAL DETAILS AS TIME GOES ON. PUT THAT TOGETR SHORE. IT'S JUST TAKING TIME. >> WELL, SOOL SECURITY. FOR US IT'S IT'S GETTING THIS CASE TO TRIAL. AND HAPPENING. A SUCCESSFUL TRIAL. SO A LOT OF WILSON, JOE, AS WE GO THROUGH THIS IS GETTING THAT SUCCESSFUL CONVICTION. SO WILSONS ARE ALL BEING HANDLED AN APPROPRIATE WAY. THE ARE THE TEAMS ARE ALL >> SPOKE ABOUT >> HAS BEEN COOPERATING ALSO, YOU KNOW, MUCH ABOUT THE ROOMMATE. >> YOU SHARE I DO THAT. THAT'S SOMETHING IN THE COMMENTS ON. UNDERSTAND. YEAH. WELL, THANK YOU. SHERIFF. SHOULD MUCH. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US AGAIN, I'M SO SORRY UNDERSHERIFF SHARE FOR EVERYTHING HAPPENED HERE AND SHOULD ABSOLUTELY. THANK THANK YOU CAN IMAGINE MEAN AGAIN FOR EVERYBODY HERE. FOR ALL OF US AROUND THE COUNTRY. IT'S A LOT. BUT IMAGINE IF YOU LIVED HERE AND SO MANY PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY ARE ACTUALLY AT THE EVENT. SO WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING ALL RIGHT. COMING UP NEXT, OUR SPECIAL EDITION OF NEWS NATION. EVERYTHING THAT WE KNOW ABOUT THE SUSPECTED ASSASSIN, INCLUDING THE PIECE OF TECHNOLOGY THAT HELPED AUTHORITIES IDENTIFY HIM. >> AND CHARLIE KIRK MADE SUCH A CONNECTION WITH AMERICA'S YOUNG VOTERS. YOU'LL HEAR WHY HEAR FROM HIM HIMSELF. THAT'S COMING UP. AND 33 HOURS DETECTIVES WERE ABLE TO TAKE A CROWD OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE AND 0 IN ON JUST 1 PERSON TYLER ROBINSON. HE'S IN THE UTAH COUNTY JAIL RIGHT NOW AWAITING A COURT APPEARANCE EARLY NEXT WEEK AND IT TURNS OUT HE WASN'T A STUDENT ON CAMPUS AND COMA DAYS PAST SOCIAL MEDIA. >> AND ALSO HIS MINDSET. WE ARE LEARNING EVEN MORE ABOUT WHO HE IS AND WHY CAME HERE. >> GOOD MORNING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE GOT HIM. >> A 33 HOUR MANHUNT LED AUTHORITIES TO THIS MAN, TYLER JAMES ROBINSON. HE'S 22 YEARS OLD. HE WAS NOT A STUDENT AT UTAH VALLEY UNIVERSITY WHERE THTHE SHOOTING HAPPENED TO HIS ADMITTED TO UTAH STATE UNIVERSITY AT A PRESTIGIOUS ACADEMIC SCHOLARSHIP UNIVERSITY SPOKESPERSON SAYS HE ONLY ATTENDED FOR 1 SEMESTER. HE IS CURRENTLY ENROLLED AT DIXIE TECHNICAL COLLEGE YEARS HOME IN SOUTHERN UTAH AND WAS IN HIS 3RD YEAR. AUTHORITIES SAY DROVE ABOUT 2 150 MILES AND A GRAY DODGE CHALLENGER FROM HIS HOME IN WASHINGTON. UTAH WALKS FROM A PARKING SPOT TO THE NORTH OF THE CAMPUS TO A WOODED AREA AND ONTO THE CAMPUS WHERE CHARLIE KIRK WAS SURROUNDED BY OVER 3,000 PEOPLE ANXIOUS TO WATCH HIM DEBATE. HE'S GONNA CLIMB OFF THE EDGE AND THEN DROP DOWN TO THE GROUND. NEWS NATION LEARNED THAT THE FBI WAS CLOSING IN ON ROBINSON THANKS TO FACIAL RECOGNITION TECHNOLOGY. EY WALKED OVER THE AREA GETTING LICENSE PLATES FROM EVERY POSSIBLE PARKING LOT ADJACENT TO THE CAMPUS. THEY ALSO GOT RAIN CAMERA FOOTAGE, BUT IT WAS ROBINSON'S OLD FAMILY WORKING WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT TURNED HIM IN. >> A FAMILY MEMBER OF TYLER ROBINSON REACHED OUT TO A FAMILY FRIEND WHO CONTACTED THE WASHINGTON COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE WITH INFORMATION THAT ROBINSON HAD CONFESSED TO THEM OR IMPLIED THAT HE HAD COMMITTED THE INCIDENT. THE FAMILY MEMBER REFERENCED A RECENT INCIDENT IN WHICH ROBINSON CAME TO DINNER PRIOR TO SEPTEMBER 10TH AND IN THE CONVERSATION WITH ANOTHER FAMILY MEMBER ROBINSON MENTIONED CHARLIE KIRK WAS COMING YOU. THEY TALKED ABOUT WHY THEY DIDN'T LIKE HIM AND A FEW POINTS THAT HE HAD THE FAMILY MEMBER. ALSO STATED KIRK WAS FULL OF HATE AND SPREADING HATE AUTHORITIES BELIEVE ROBINSON ACTED ALONE, BUT SAY WAS COMMUNICATING WITH A ROOMMATE ON THE APP DISCORD. THE CONTENT OF THESE MESSAGES. >> INCLUDED MESSAGES AFFILIATED WITH THE CONTACT TYLER STATING A NEED TO RETRIEVE A RIFLE FROM A DROP POINT LEAVING THE RIFLE IN A BUSH MESSAGES RELATED TO VISUALLY WATCHING THE AREA WHERE A RIFLE WAS LEFT AND A MESSAGE REFERRING TO HAVING LEFT THE RIFLE WRAPPED IN A TOWEL. THE MESSAGES ALSO REFER TO ENGRAVING BULLETS. AND A MENTION OF A SCOPE AND THE RIFLE BEING UNIQUE MESSAGES FROM THE CONTACT TYLER ALSO MENTIONED THAT HE HAD CHANGED OUTFITS. THE GOVERNOR SAYS ROBINSON WAS DEEPLY AND DOCTOR NEEDED WITH LEFTIST IDEOLOGY. THE BIGGEST CLUES RIGHT NOW COULD BE INSCRIPTIONS ON THOSE BULLET CASINGS SAYING, HEY, FASCIST CATCH. >> AND IF YOU READ THIS, YOU ARE TYLER ROBINSON IS REGISTERED AS AN UNAFFILIATED VOTER. ACCORDING TO UTAH STATE RECORDS. HE DOES NOT APPEAR TO HAVE A CRIMINAL RECORD NEWS NATION SPOKE WITH HIS NEIGHBORS. I WOULD NEVER GUESS THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN HIM 90 BECAUSE THE PICTURES TO SHOW IT. >> HIS PERSONALITY WHEN THE SHOW THAT THAT'S NOT WHO HE WAS RAISED TO BE. I THINK SOCIAL MEDIA ANFRIENDS THAT GOTTEN IT WRONG. JUST DON'T HOUSE. SO THE FAMILY BE NICE THEY'RE GOING THROUGH A LOT OF JUST AS THE KURD FAMILY IS. KNOW IT'S A DIFFERENT KIND. >> MENTAL HEALTH, ISRAEL AND WE NEED TO CHECK UP ON IT. >> ALL RIGHT. JOINING ME NOW IS JESSE WEBER, NEWSNATION BELOW CONTRIBUTOR ALSO RETIRED FBI AGENT BODY TO CONAN, FIRST OF ALL, A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ASKING WHETHER CHARLIE KIRK WAS WEARING A BULLETPROOF VEST. AND I JUST CONFIRMED FROM THE SHERIFF THAT HE WAS NOT NOT THAT THAT WOULD HAVE REALLY MADE A DIFFERENCE. I DON'T THINK ABOUT YOU CAN WEIGH IN ON THAT. AND OBVIOUSLY IT APPEARS THAT HE WAS SHOT IN THE NECK. SO THINK THAT WOULD HAVE MATTERED. BUT. >> A LOT OF PEOPLE TO SORT OF WANTED TO KNOW WHAT I JUST GOT CONFIRMED. >> BUT BUT BOBBIE, IT'S IT'S INTERESTING. THE GOVERNOR HERE IN UTAH SAID THIS MORNING THAT THE SUSPECT WAS INDOCTRINATED WITH LEFTIST IDEOLOGY IS THE IS THERE ANYTHING MORE THAT YOU'VE LEARNED ABOUT THAT. BOBBY. >> NO, BUT I CAN SURMISE THAT HE MADE THAT STATEMENT BASED ON THINGS THAT HE'S BEEN TOLD FROM THE FBI IN THEIR EXAMINATION N MS, YOU KNOW, DIGITAL FOOTPRINT, AS WE CALL IT. THE FBI ACTUAL WHAT WE CALL A SOCIAL MEDIA EXPLOITATION TEAM THAT SPECIALIZES IN GOING INTO SOMEONE'S BACKGROUND AND ALL OF THEIR COMMENTS ARE ALL THE DIFFERENT PLATFORMS AND FINDING THAT STUFF AND SEEING A PATTERN OF IDEOLOGICAL THOUGHTS AND IDEAS. AND SO I'M ASSUMING SOME ICING THAT HE MADE THOSE STATEMENTS AFTER BEING TOLD WHAT THE INVESTIGATORS FOUND OR HAVE INITIALLY FOUND. I'M SURE THEY CONTINUING THAT DEEP DIVE. BUT HAVE INITIALLY FOUND FROM SOME OF HIS ONLINE ACTIVITY. >> JESSE, OBVIOUSLY THE FEDS ARE THE STATE IS ALSO INVOLVED HERE WHO WILL END UP GETTING JURISDICTION OVER THIS CASE BECAUSE IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE MURDER CHARGE RIGHT NOW SO FAR AS THE STATE CHART RIGHT. >> AND I THINK IT MAY STAY STATE CHARGE. WHY I SAY THAT EVEN THOUGH THIS IS A HEINOUS HEINOUS CRIME. THERE MAY NOT BE AN ACTUAL FEDERAL CRIME AT PLAY THAT FITS IN WITH PATTERN OF FACT, WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A DOMESTIC TERRORISM CHARGE. >> TO NECESSARILY CHARGED HIM WITH THE ON. WHEN YOU LOOK AT SOMETHING SIMILAR IN RECENT HISTORY. THE MAN ANY CASE, THE WAY THAT THEY ULTIMATELY ABLE TO CHARGE AND HIS MURDER THROUGH STALKING. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ACTUALLY APPLIES AS ALSO INTERSTATE. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE. BUT LOOK, IT LOOKS LIKE THE STATE IS GOING TO TAKE CHARGE AND SOMETHING TO NOTE HERE WHILE HE HAS NOT BEEN FORMALLY CHARGED. WE BELIEVE THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN ON TUESDAY. AGGRAVATED MURDER WAS LISTED IN THE PROBABLE CAUSE STATEMENT. THE REASON THAT IS SO SIGNIFICANT IS BECAUSE THAT IS HOW THEY'RE AMPLIFYING THIS TO THE MOST SERIOUS CRIME IN UTAH. THAT IS HOW WE TRY TO GET THE DEATH PENALTY ON THE BOOKS. THE IDEA HERE IS THAT THIS WAS A KILLING COMMITTED IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES THAT POSED A GRAVE DANGER TO OTHERS THAT HEAT. THIS SUSPECT ALLEGEDLY OPENED FIRE IN AN OPEN PROUD. YES, THE TARGET WAS CHARLIE KIRK BUT OPENING FIRE WITH THAT MANY PEOPLE AROUND. THAT IS THE HOPE THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO GET THIS TO THE HIGHEST LEVEL. FELONY IN UTAH. >> JESSE, I'M YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE DEATH PENALTY BY FIRING SQUAD HERE IN UTAH. AND I KNOW DEATH PENALTY CASES CAN BE TRICKY. BUT I WOULD IMAGINE WITH A VIDEO THAT SO MANY OF I'VE SEEN WHICH IS JUST AWFUL. I MEAN, THE WHOLE ASSASSINATIONS CAUGHT ON VIDEO. I WOULD THINK WITH THAT VIDEO >> YOU KNOW, PROSECUTORS WOULD HAVE A STRONG CASE HERE FOR THE DEATH PENALTY. >> YOU WOULD THINK SO. BUT DON'T ALWAYS GUARANTEE IT. MEAN, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PARKLAND SCHOOL SHOOTING, WHICH IS 1 OF THE WORST NATIONALS WE ARE SEEING THE JURY CAME BACK AND ULTIMATELY SAID NO LIFE IN PRISON. IT CAN BE VERY COMPLICATED AND LOOK FOR A DEFENSE ATTORNEYS PERSPECTIVE, WHAT ARE THEY GONNA DO? THEY ARE GOING TO SAY LOOK AT THE CIRCUS THAT HAS BEEN CREATED IN THE LAST FEW DAYS. HIS MUG SHOT HAS BEEN PLASTERED EVERYWHERE. YOU HAVE POLITICIANS WHO WERE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT TYLER ROBINSON AND IT MAY BE VERY DIFFICULT TO GET A JURY, LET ALONE A JURY THAT WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF THE DEATH PENALTY. A DEATH PENALTY. QUALIFIED JURY. IT MAY BE TOO EARLY. THIS IS A HEINOUS CRIME THAT VIDEO IS NOW INGRAINED IN SO MANY PEOPLE'S MINDS AND WE'RE IN THE BEGINNING STAGES. BUT CLEARLY THEY WANT TO GO AS STRONG AS POSSIBLE AGAGAINST THE SUSPECT. >> THERE'S SOMETHING THAT I REPORTED EARLY ON I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW, AND THAT IS THAT BEFORE THE DAD TURNED THE SUSPECT THE SUSPECT TYLER ROBINSON WAS ALREADY ON THE FBI'S RADAR BECAUSE ITS FACIAL RECOGNITION TECHNOLOGY. THEY WERE DOWN A GROUP OF SUSPECTS IN WHOLE OPERATION CENTER HERE AT THE COLLEGE BEHIND ME. >> AND HE WAS ON THAT LIST. AND I SPOKE TO THE CEO OF CLEARVIEW AI. AND THAT IS THE COMPANY THAT THE FBI WAS WORKING THERE WAS ACTUALLY THEY WERE USING THEIR FACIAL RECOGNITION TECHNOLOGY TO FIND THIS PERSON. I WANT YOU TO LISTEN TO WHAT HE SAID. >> WHEN YOU TAKE AN IMAGE OF AN INDIVIDUAL, LET'S SAY IN THE CASE ON IF THEY HAVE VIDEO OR THEY HAVE AN IMAGE OF SOMEONE. THEY CAN RUN IT THROUGH THE SOWARE AND WITHIN SECONDS, IT RETRIEVES ANY IMAGES THAT MATCH THE IMAGES IN THE THAT THEY'RE BEING LOOKED AT. SO IT'S IT'S AMAZING. SOFTWARE. AMAZING TOOL YOU KNOW, SO, YOU KNOW, FORTUNATE THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO HELP. AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, I I WANTED TO EXPRESS, YOU KNOW, I'VE I'VE BEEN VERY UPSET ABOUT THIS. THIS WHOLE THING AS MANY PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD ARE. I'VE BEEN FRIENDS WITH CHARLIE KIRK SINCE 2015 WHEN I FIRST MET HIM. HE'S AMAZING IT WAS 21 YEARS OLD. I THOUG >> WHEN PEOPLE STOP TALKING REALLY BATCH OF SHOTS WHEN MARY STOP POPPING DIVORCE HAPPENS IT WAS A SHUNT STOP TALKING WARREN WHEN YOU STOP HAVING A HUMAN CONNECTION WITH SOMEONE WHO DISAGREE WITH BECOMES A LOT EASIER WANT TO COMMIT VIOLENCE AGAINST THAT GROUP. >> YOU HEARD IT THERE. CHARLIE KIRK REALLY HAD A GIFT CONNECTING WITH YOUNG AMERICANS TO HIS PODCAST PUBLIC SPEAKING ENGAGEMENTS AND HIS SIGNATURE PROVE ME WRONG. DEBATES ON COLLEGE CAMPUSES. TAKE A LOOK AT THIS. >> IN THE AGE WHERE LIKE THERE IS SUCH A HIGH PERCENTAGE OR RATION OF AND WE'VE SEEN THAT LIKE EXTREMELY POLARIZING, DIFFERENT LIGHT, BUT PEOPLE ARE GETTING THEIR NEWS FROM WILDLY DIFFERENT SOURCES JUST DON'T INTERACT WITH THE OTHER SIDE AT ALL. DO YOU THINK THAT BEING AN AUTODIDACT IN ANY SENSE OF THE TERM IS GOING TO GIVE YOU A THOROUGH AND RIGOROUS EDUCATION. IF YOU ARE LIKE SO LIKELY TO END UP SUCKED INTO THESE HOLES WHERE YOU'RE NEVER INTERACT. MY ONLY LEARNING. I THINK A LOT OF COOL PEOPLE I LEARN FROM PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND OTHERS. I MEAN, I'M LISTENING WHEN YOU'RE TALKING, IT'S NOT JUST THE STACK WANT ME OVER IN ANY OF THAT. BUT YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO. >> I'M GLAD YOU'RE TEMPTED TO YEAH. I MEAN, YOU LEARN IN OTHER WAYS OTHER THAN JUST SITTING IN A CLASSROOM LISTENING TO APROFESSOR DRONE ON FOR 90 MINUTES AND PRETEND TO READ HIS BOOK AND PAYING 20,000 A SEMESTER TO CHEAT ON THAT EXAM AT THE END OF THE SEMESTER, ACCORDING TO CURRENT PROJECTIONS, ONE-THIRD OF TODAY'S YOUNG AMERICANS WILL NEVER GET MARRIED. >> THE AVERAGE AMERICAN IS HAVING FEWER CHILDREN THAN EVER. BEFORE. IT'S BECAUSE FIRST FAR TOO MANY. THEY SIMPLY CAN'T AFFORD THE BASIC THINGS ARE PARENTS. ENJOY ARE INCREASINGLY OUT OF REACH FOR GEN Z AND MILLENNIALS. YOU SEE THE AMERICAN DREAM HAS BECOME A LUXURY ITEM FOR THE WEALTHY ELITES. HAPPY COUNTRIES HAVE CHILDREN. BROKEN. COUNTRIES HAVE ADDICTION, DEPRESSION AND SUFFERING. CHRISTIANITY IS THE GREATEST. I THINK THAT HUMANITY HAS EVER HAD TO LIVE UNDER. >> HISTORY. THE HOTTEST STARS CHRISTIANITY AS WE KNOW IT IS THE GREATEST MORAL ETHIC. AND THESE ARE THINGS YOU AGREE WITH, YOU KNOW, LOVE THE STRANGER YOU KNOW, HELP HAVE JUSTICE LOVE THY NEIGHBOR. YOU LOVE THY NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF LIKE LEVITICUS, 19, RIGHT. THESE ARE BEAUTIFUL TEACHINGS. IN FACT, THEY'RE SO BEAUTIFUL THAT YOU THINK THAT THEIR COMMON WHEN EVERY ALL THE REST OF THE WORLD DOESN'T ALWAYS HAVE THEM EVEN FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND NATURAL RIGHTS AND CHARITY THE LESSER OF THESE ARE ALL CHRISTIAN VALUES. SO I'M GETTING AT THOUGH, IS IF WE REMOVE CHRISTIAN VALUES, WHICH YOU MAY OR MAY NOT BE SUGGESTING WHAT DO WE REPLACE THAT WENT. WE SHOULD TELL OUR YOUNG LADIES. THAT IF YOU WANT TO GO BE THE CEO OF A SHOE COMPANY. THAT'S FINE. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT'S REALLY GOING TO MATTER. 30 YEARS FROM NOW, WHAT'S GOING TO MATTER IS WHETHER OR NOT YOU HAVE TO LOVE OF YOUR LIFE AND YOU'VE DECIDED TO RAISE CHILDREN, IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW MANY TRIPS TO THAILAND. YOU MAKE THIS MATTER HOW MANY NIGHTS OUT AT THE CLUB. WHAT MATTERS IS WHAT LASTS AND WHAT MATTERS IS THGS THAT ARE HARD KEEP IT SHORT AND I'M JUST CURIOUS WHAT YOUR STANCE ON COLLEGE SCAM BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE ACCORDING TO THE HAMILTON INSTITUTE, PEOPLE WHO GET BACHELOR DEGREES OVER A TOTAL LIFETIME EARNINGS WILL EARN OVER 1 MILLION DOLLARS MORE THAN THOSE WHO DON'T. >> ALSO I FEEL LIKE COLLEGE IS AN IMPORTANT PLACE. PEOPLE LIKE GO LEARN VALUABLE LIFE LESSONS. AND ALSO IT'S GOOD TO HAVE BALANCE SOCIETY BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO GET ARTISTS. YOU'RE ALSO GOING TO GET ARCHITECTURES. YOU CAN GET ENGINEERS ARE GOING TO ALL SORTS PEOPLE THAT WE NEED IN SOCIETY BECAUSE LIKE WHAT'S THE POINT OF LIVING. IF YOU DON'T HAVE WRITERS OR ARTISTS, YOU KNOW. SO I JUST WANT TO GET YOUR TAKE ON. QUESTION IS DO THE BEST WRITERS LEARN TO WRITE IN COLLEGE. PROBABLY NOT KNOW THE BEST WRITERS ARE GIFTED RIDING AND THEY LEARN TO WRITE BY WRITING AND I WOULD JUST ARGUE THAT THIS KIND OF HOLISTIC VIEW YOU GET FOR EXAMPLE, STUDY CAN I CAN ASK ECONOMICS OK, SO WHAT DO YOU THINK MUSCLE. I ACTUALLY LIKE IN MY BUDDIES BUT BASIC ECONOMICS ONE OF THE FIRST ECONOMISTS. DO THEY TEACH HERE? NOT YET, BUT ALSO GETTING EVERY MY POINT. IF YOU'RE STUDYING ECONOMICS AND ARE NOT TEACHING. THOMAS. YOU'RE NOT GETTING AN EDUCATION GETTING A DOCTOR WHEN YOU'RE BEING SCAMMED AGAIN. FREE MONDAY. TEACHING ON FREEMAN HERE KNOW THAT AWARE OKAY. LOOTED ISIS. I'M A WEAPON, BUT BART, HOLD ON. KNOW THEY KNOW FREDERICK DUSTY. KNOW YOU'RE NOT GETTING ECONOMICS, EDUCATION. YOU'RE GETTING AN INDOCTRINATION. YOU SHOULD KNOW EVERYTHING. IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT BUT THAT WHAT YOU'RE PAYING FOR GOING INTO DEBT FOR IS NOT A REAL ECONOMIC EDUCATION. THOSE THE PEOPLE THAT THEORIZED ABOUT FREE MARKETS AND THAT WHICH IS A LEGITIMATE SCHOOL OF THINKING MONITOR IS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS AND THE FACT THAT YOU NOT TO COME, NOT CRITICIZING HUGE. I MEAN, CRITICIZING INSTITUTION THAT'S FAILING THAT YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THESE PEOPLE BELIEVE. YOU'RE NOT BEING TAUGHT THAT RIGOROUSLY PROVES MY POINT THAT COLLEGE IS A NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE WILL OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND THE SOVEREIGNTY OF GOD TOWARDS RIGHT. JUST AND >> WITH UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. >> ALSO A FRIEND CHARLIE'S. YOU CAN HE THE HOCKING BEHIND BUT THIS IS ALL SUPPORT FOR CHARLIE. I MEAN, THE CROWD OUT IS INSANE. BUT I WANT TO ASK YOU KNOW WHAT DOWN THIS RABBIT HOLE LAST NIGHT ON CHARLIE'S YOU TO WATCHING A LOT OF THESE DEBATES ON COLLEGE CAMPUSES AND SOMEBODY THE VIRAL ONES THAT YOU SEE OVER THE YEARS WHERE WE'RE SORT OF SPICY, BUT MOST OF THEM WERE REALLY CONVERSATIONAL AND RESPECTFUL. >> THEY WORRY. I MEAN. >> IT'S HARD FOR ME TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE AND TALK ABOUT CHARLIE KIRK CONSIDERING THAT EVERYTHING I HEAR FROM PEOPLE PROVES TO ME THAT THEY NEVER ACTUALLY WATCHED. AND IF HIS SPEECHES OR ANY OF THOSE DEBATES THE FACT MOST OF WHAT HE DID END UP BEING RESPECTFUL. AND WHAT I HAD WITH THIS WAS PEOPLE WALKING AWAY NOT ONLY WITH A NEW RESPECT CHARLIE. BUT WITH A NEW RESPECT FOR THE IDEA OF DEBATING WITH OR EVEN JUST SPEAKING TO THOSE THAT HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS FROM THEIR OWN. SO THE SAD THING IS T THAT PEOPLE ARE MISSING ACTUALLY. I THINK THE MAIN POINT OF WHAT CHARLIE WAS TRYING TO DO. I MEAN, THEY HAVE AN OPINION ABOUT HIS OWN OPINIONS. AND THAT'S GREAT. BUT THEY'RE MISSING THE FACT THAT HE ACTUALLY CARED ABOUT THEIR OPINIONS AND HE WANTED TO KNOW WHERE THEY WERE COMING FROM. HE WANTED TO DEBATE PEOPLE. HE WANTED TO BRING AS MUCH INFORMATION AS HE COULD TO THE TABLE BECAUSE THAT'S HOW MUCH HE RESPECTED OTHER PEOPLE AND THEIR VIEWPOINTS AND. I DON'T WANT, YOU KNOW, TO CONTINUE CRYING ON TV. BUT THE FACT IS I DON'T THINK WE COULD POSSIBLY FIND A WORSE SITUATION FOR AMERICA THAN SOMEONE WHO SO PROUDLY WANTED TO GO OUT THERE AND DEBATE EVERYONE FROM EVERY VIEWPOINT OF BRIGHTEST AND THE RIGHT OF THE ON THE LEFT AND ENDED UP GETTING KILLED FOR. >> YEAH. IT'S TERRIBLE. IT'S REALLY TERRIBLE. THE CROWD BEHIND ME. SO MANY OF THEM NOW HAVE I AM CHARLIE KIRK T-SHIRTS. I AM CHARLIE KIRK. SIGNS. IT'S IT'S QUICKLY BECOME LIKE A SLOGAN AND IT SEEMS LIKE THIS MOVEMENT MAY ACTUALLY BECOME STRONGER THAN EVER. >> I HAVE. OBVIOUSLY I HEARD THAT FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE. I'M I'M HOPEFUL, OF COURSE I DO. EVEN KNOW WHAT THE MOVEMENT IS WORTH WITHOUT THE YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE LEADERS THAT WE HAD. I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS WORTH THE LOSS OF SUCH YOU KNOW WHAT, GREAT SOUL AND I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT IT LIKE THIS. BUT I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LEFT TO DO. I CAN ONLY IMAGINE THAT'S WHAT CHARLIE WOOD HAVE WANTED. UNFORTUNATELY. SOMETIMES IT TAKES SOME OF THE WORST SITUATIONS POSSIBLE TO INSPIRE PEOPLE TO FINALLY GO OUT THERE AND SPEAK UP AND THE FACT IS AGAIN, I HOPE PEOPLE ON THE LEFT, PEOPLE WHO DISAGREE WITH CHARLIE REALIZE WE ARE ALL CHARLIE KIRK. WE'RE JUST AMERICANS WITH OPINIONS AND A BUNCH OF PEOPLE DISAGREE WITH THOSE OPINIONS BUT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU'RE ON THE LEFT OR THE RIGHT. AS LONG AS YOU LOVE YOUR FELLOW AMERICAN AND YOU'RE READY TO DISCUSS THOSE OPINIONS THAT YOU ARE ALSO CHARLIE KIRK. >> YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN THE REPORTS, ELIZABETH ON PEOPLE AND SOME HIGH POSITIONS FOR COMPANIES AND DIFFERENT JOB TO HAVE NO SAID AWFUL THINGS ON SOCIAL MEDIA. SOME PEOPLE HE EVEN CELEBRATED THE ASSASSINATION. SOME COMPANIES HAVE AS FAR FIRE PEOPLE MEAN, WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF ALL OF THAT. >> I AM DISTRAUGHT. HONESTLY, I CAN'T BELIEVE HOW NAIVE I WAS TRULY TO BE STILL SURPRISED BY THE REACTION. BUT I AM EVERY MOMENT. I FIND MYSELF ON THE INTERNET SEEING A NEW RESPONSE FROM DESPICABLE TRULY RESPONSE FROM SOMEONE AND I AM BAFFLED THAT THIS KIND OF HATRED EXISTS. I ON A PERSONAL LEVEL, I'M SCARED BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO KNEW NOTHING ABOUT CHARLIE KIRK AND ARE CELEBRATING HIS DEATH AND THAT WOULD MEAN THAT THEY WOULD WANT THE SAME THING FOR ME AND MY FRIENDS IN THE MOVEMENT OR MY OWN FAMILY PROBABLY. AND I'M SCARED FOR WHAT IT MEANS FOR THE FUTURE OF AMERICA BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE IS SO MUCH HATE IN PEOPLE'S HEARTS AND POLITICS HAS DIVIDEDED US AT LEVEL THAT I'VE NEVER SEEN IN MY LIFETIME AND I WAS SCARED TO KNOW THESE PEOPLE ARE EXISTING ARE AT THEIR EXISTING IN OUR HEALTHCARE INSTITUTIONS. THEY'RE TEACHING CHILDREN, THEIR COLLEGE PROFESSORS AND AGAIN, WHEN YOU'RE LEAVING THESE PEOPLE'S ROOMS, YOU ARE LEARNING FROM THEM AND YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY NOT LEARNING POLICY. JEAN ALERTING HISTORY. YOU'RE NOT GETTING, YOU KNOW, PROPER HEALTH CARE. YOU'RE GETTING INDOCTRINATED AND YOU'RE TTING. FILLED WITH HATRED. . AND I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE MISSED THAT THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON IN THESE INSTITUTIONS FOR THIS LONG. AND I CAN'T BELIEVE IT TOOK SUCH A GRUESOME HORRIBLE DESPICABLE EVENT. >> FOR US TO FIND OUT JUST HOW MUCH HATE OUR INCREDIBLE AMERICAN SOCIETY IS CURRENTLY FILLED WITH YOU. >> WELL, I THINK HOPEFULLY THE LOVE OVERSHADOWED TODAY IT SHE COMING ELIZABETHTON. I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT ON A PERSONAL LEVEL. I'M SORRY ABOUT THE LOSS OF YOUR FRIEND. >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> OKAY. MILLIONS OUTSIDE ON THE INTERNET. THOUSANDS ARE RIGHT HERE WITH THEIR OWN EYES. HOW DOES THE COUNTRY ACTUALLY MOVE FORWARD FROM WHAT HAPPENS NEXT? HEAD OF THE PEOPLE WHO WERE HERE GET PAST THE TRAUMA >> TO THE ENTIRE NATION EYES REALLY STILL GRAPPLING WITH HOW TO HANDLE THE ASSASSINATION OF CHARLIE FOR FOR PEOPLE, THOUGH, WHO WERE AT THE EVENT LITERALLY JUST FEET THE TRAUMA IS REALLY UNBEARABLE PTSD. I SETTING AND I'M JOINED NOW BY ELLIOT OVERALL. IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN. I MEAN, I'M RIGHT AFTER THE SHOOTING EVER THERE YOUR BABY WITH YOUR WIFE FEUD OVER TOP YOUR BABY, YOUR WE HEARD THE SHOT. YOU'RE 8 FEET AWAY FROM CHARLIE >> I MEAN, HOW ARE YOU DOING NOW. >> TO BE TO. FIRST OF ALL, IF YOU DON'T MIND JUST 2 SECONDS. I JUST HONESTLY WANTED TO GIVE MY CONDOLENCES TO THIS IS KERCH. I ABSOLUTELY LOVE YOU JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT YOU HAVE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE BEHIND YOU, MY FAMILY, INCLUDING PRAYING FOR YOU AND YOU KNOW, THE JOHNSON FAMILY YOU KNOW, HAS ALSO GOING USE RIGHT NOW AS A FAMILY. SO I JUST WANT TO GET THAT OUT THERE BEFORE I START TALKING ABOUT MYSELF OR MY EXPERIENCE AS FAR AS OUR EXPERIENCE GOES, AS A FAMILY. YOU KNOW, THE TRAUMA THAT EXPERIENCE SOMETHING THAT TAKE WITH ME FOREVER. >> YOU KNOW. I TALKED ABOUT THIS THE OTHER DAY YOU KNOW, EXPERIENCE LIKE THAT, YOU HAVE 2 DECISIONS, YOU KNOW, FIGHT OR FLIGHT FOR ME, THE BIGGEST THING THAT'S ALL I CARED MOST ABOUT WAS MY FAMILY. >> AS ANY DAD OR HUSBAND OR FATHER OR ANYTHING. YOU KNOW WHAT? HOPEFULLY DO THE BIGGEST THING FOR ME WAS MAKE SURE MY FAMILY IS NOT GOING TO GET HIT OR TAKING TAKING, YOU KNOW, TO A PLACE WHERE, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE GOING TO BE UNSAFE. AND SO THE I COULD THINK OF WAS COVERING HIM WITH MY BODY. I HAVE A FATHER LAW THAT I ABSOLUTELY LOVE AND ADORE AND HE'S PROBABLY THE STRONGEST GUYS EVER. AND YOU KNOW, WHEN HE TELLS ME TO GET OUT OF THERE AND GRABS US. IT PUSHES US AND STUFF. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT NEEDS BUSINESS >> I FEEL TERRIBLE FOR ALL THE PEOPLE THAT EXPERIENCE. I MEAN, THERE'S THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE THERE THAT ALL WITNESSED AN ASSASSINATION OF A WONDERFUL HUMAN THAT WE WERE ALL THERE TO JUST WITH THIS DEBATE, A FREE COUNTRY HAVING A DEBATE WHERE WE GOT TO BE ABLE TO WATCH DIFFERENT OPINIONS HAPPENED BACK AND FORTH TO EACH OTHER AND SOMEBODY WAS KILLED OVER THEIR BELIEF SYSTEMS YOU KNOW, MY THOUGHT PROCESS IS STARTED CHANGING. SO. >> HAVE A MINUTE LEFT, BUT I MEAN, DO YOU THINK YOU ARE RIGHT THERE TO DO YOU THINK THIS IS A MOMENT FOR AMERICA THINK WE'RE GOING TO LEARN FROM THIS THINGS COVERED SO MANY OF AT THE TRAGEDIES. YOU KNOW. >> BUT THE BIGGEST MESSAGE THAT I REALLY WANT YOU KNOW, CONVEY WITH THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. IS, YOU KNOW, WE ARE DEVELOPING AT A SHEEN A SOCIETY WHERE PEOPLE ARE BEING TAUGHT NOT TO FEEL THEIR FEELINGS AND TALK ABOUT THEIR FEELINGS AND ALL THESE THINGS. AND SO PEOPLE ARE SUFFERING IN SINCE AND WE'RE HANG MASSIVE BLOW UPS EVERYWHERE. SO THIS IS A MENTAL AND EMOTIONAL SPIRITUAL CRISIS THAT I HOPE THAT WE CAN AS A SOCIETY START TO REALLY TAKE A LOOK ON HOW SAFE ARE BEING WITH GIVING PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON INSIDE THEMSELVES. THAT'S THE BIGGEST THING THAT I CARE ABOUT RIGHT CARE ABOUT ALL THE OTHER NOISE I CARE ABOUT HOW HEALTHY IS OUR COUNTRY AT THE MOMENT. RIGHT NOW AND WHERE WE'RE GOING. THAT WE'LL GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN, SET UP FOR YOUR FAMILY. SO THEY START TO SEE TO. THANK YOU. THANK STILL AHEAD, HOW CHARLIE KIRK IS BEING REMEMBERED ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY. TONIGHT. WE'VE ALSO GOT NEW DETAILS ABOUT DIAL AND FREE SPEECH. BEYOND WHAT THIS MEANS FOR US AND FOR OUR COUNTRY, PERHAPS WHAT IS EVEN HARDER TO COMPREHEND IS WHAT THIS MEANS FOR THOSE CLOSEST TO CHART HIS WIFE ERICA, AND TO HIS CHILDREN, 3 YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER AND A 1 YEAR-OLD SON. ERICA POSTED THIS VIDEO. IT'S ALSO WE'D HER HUSBAND'S CASKET. HOLDING HER HUSBAND'S HAND SAYING I LOVE YOU. I LOVE YOU. I KNOW I I MISS YOU. SO MUCH. ERICA BRAVELY SPOKE PUBLICLY LAST NIGHT TALKED ABOUT THEIR 3 YEAR-OLD LITTLE GIRL. WHEN SHE ASKED WHERE HER >> WHEN I GOT HOME LAST NIGHT. OUR DAUGHTER JUST RAN INTO ARMS. AND I TALKED TO HER AND SHE SAID I MISS USA MISS TOO. BABY WORST ATTY. STREET. SAID B B HE LOVES YOU SO MUCH. DO YOU WHERE HE'S ON A HE'S ON A WORK TRIP WHICH USES SO HE CAN AFFORD YOUR BLUEBERRY BUDGET. >> PRESIDENT TRUMP WILL AWARD CHARLIE KIRK THE PRESIDENTIAL MEDAL OF FREEDOM AND WILL BE AT HIS FUNERAL ON SUNDAY. AND AGAIN, IS A LIVE LOOK BEHIND ME RIGHT NOW. PEOPLE CONTINUE TO SHOW TO HONOR AND REMEMBER, CHARLIE ASKED THE QUESTION, WILL THIS FINALLY WAKE-UP CALL FOR AMERICA. THANKS FOR JOINING US. TONIGHT.