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Erick Stakelbeck Interviews Scott Jennings on Donald Trump's Revolution of Common Sense and Second Term Leadership

December 2, 2025

Erick Stakelbeck sits down with CNN political contributor Scott Jennings at the Republican Jewish Coalition Summit in Las Vegas to discuss his new book, A Revolution of Common Sense: How Donald Trump Stormed Washington and Fought for Western Civilization. Jennings offers unprecedented access to the Oval Office, revealing how President Trump operates, his decisiveness in leadership, and why his second administration has achieved more in months than most presidencies accomplish in years. From reversing Biden-era policies to restoring American strength abroad, Jennings explains why Trump's common-sense approach resonates with 80-90% of Americans and how his hand-picked team executes his vision with precision.

Inside the Oval Office with Scott Jennings

Erick Stakelbeck welcomed Scott Jennings, CNN senior political contributor and author, to discuss his remarkable new book that takes readers inside President Trump's second term. Jennings, who has become known as a rare truth-teller on CNN, provides an intimate look at how the 45th president operates in his return to the White House.

When asked what sets President Trump apart from other world leaders, Jennings identified two critical factors. First, Trump's willingness to reject the status quo mentality of "we've always done it that way." Whether dealing with Middle East peace negotiations or economic policy, Trump refuses to be constrained by Washington's conventional wisdom. Second, and perhaps most importantly, Trump assembled a team perfectly matched to his leadership style—a stark contrast to his first term.

"I don't know a Trump supporter who isn't over the moon happy with the results," Jennings said. "They've moved faster and farther than anybody thought possible."

Trump's Decisive Leadership Style

Jennings shared a revealing anecdote from his first meeting with President Trump in early February. Expecting a one-on-one conversation, he instead walked into an Oval Office filled with most of the cabinet. For two hours, he watched Trump conduct approximately six simultaneous meetings, instructing people on various tasks and orchestrating government operations with precision.

"I was sitting there thinking to myself, I have no idea who was running the country the last four years, but I sure as heck know who's running it right now," Jennings recalled.

Contrary to media caricatures, Jennings observed that Trump is an excellent listener who encourages debate among his advisers before making firm decisions. Once Trump decides on a course of action, the decision stands, and everyone knows to execute immediately. This decisiveness represents the complete opposite of the Biden administration's indecisiveness and hand-wringing.

The Mess Trump Inherited from Biden

The Biden administration left behind catastrophic failures across multiple fronts. The immigration system was in shambles, with policies deliberately designed to keep borders open and prevent enforcement of existing federal law. Trump's solution proved remarkably simple: enforce the law. Without passing new legislation, the border is now effectively closed, and internal enforcement has been restored.

Economically, Trump inherited an inflationary disaster caused by Biden's policies. While Trump passed major tax legislation, pursued deregulation, and worked to rebalance trade relationships, digging out from Biden's economic hole remains one of his biggest challenges.

Perhaps most damaging was America's weakened position on the world stage. Biden's feckless leadership, exemplified by the disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal in 2021, made America appear as a diminishing player. Under Trump, America has reclaimed its position as the world's indispensable superpower. Strong American leadership has enabled peace negotiations, brought adversaries to the table, and secured the release of hostages from around the world.

The Revolution of Common Sense

The title of Jennings' book comes from a phrase Trump used in his inaugural address. This concept captures the essence of Trump's political appeal—he gives Americans permission to acknowledge obvious truths that the radical left had made taboo.

"Whether you're right or whether you're left, it doesn't matter what you are. It's just common sense," Trump told supporters on his hundredth day in office during a trip to Michigan.

Jennings described these as "80-20 issues"—positions where 80% of Americans agree with Trump while the other 20% cling to fringe ideology. On reflection, Jennings admitted some are actually "90-10" or even "95-5" issues, particularly on cultural matters.

Ending Gender Ideology Madness

One of the most consequential areas where Trump restored common sense involves gender ideology. The left's agenda on transgender issues had reached the point of erasing women from civil rights law. If gender can be changed at will, then it's no longer an immutable characteristic protected by law.

"The Republican party under Donald Trump is fighting for true civil rights, especially the civil rights of women," Jennings explained.

On day one, Trump signed an executive order banning child sex change procedures. He followed up by hosting female athletes at the White House when he signed another order banning men from women's sports. The impact was immediate—the International Olympic Committee followed suit, announcing similar policies for future Olympics.

Jennings noted that countless liberal Democrats privately oppose boys in girls' locker rooms and sports but felt trapped by their party's radical positions. Trump's leadership gave them permission to speak common sense again.

The Democrats' Socialist Capture

The Democratic Party now finds itself in the thrall of radical progressive socialists who no longer hide their ideology. The energy in the Democratic Party comes from figures like AOC and others on the far left—a socialist heartbeat that the party held off in 2016 and 2020 but may no longer be able to contain.

Jennings shared his personal connection to this political realignment. His father, a blue-collar worker from West Kentucky, was a devoted Clinton Democrat who became one of the first people to predict Trump's victory. Like many working-class Americans, Jennings' father recognized that his old party no longer represented people like him.

"Trump comes along and he speaks in the way that people like my dad would speak if anybody ever bothered to put a microphone in his face," Jennings said. "That's the magic of the political movement."

Peace Through Strength and Economic Leverage

Trump's approach to foreign policy centers on negotiating from strength rather than weakness. He views tariffs not merely as economic policy but as tools of national diplomacy and national security. This represents one of Trump's most deeply held political beliefs, inspired by President William McKinley.

While tariffs mark a departure from traditional Republican free-trade orthodoxy established by Ronald Reagan, Trump has successfully reoriented the party around his America First vision. Secretary of State Marco Rubio told Jennings that every strategic conversation begins and ends with one question: What are we trying to get out of this for the United States of America?

This approach has yielded trillions of dollars in foreign investment and major foreign policy victories. World leaders now clamor to meet with Trump, to have their picture taken with him, and to negotiate deals. His willingness to talk with anyone—China, Russia, North Korea—combined with his position of strength, makes him uniquely effective.

An Administration Built for Trump's Leadership

The key difference between Trump's first and second terms lies in personnel. The current cabinet and staff understand how to operate under Trump's leadership style. These aren't necessarily better people than those who served in the first term, but they're the right fit.

Jennings praised the inspired picks across the board. Marco Rubio is "the best secretary of state we've ever had." Scott Bessent is "a beast." Lee Zeldin at the EPA has made consequential decisions on matters like the endangerment finding. These appointees hit the ground running on day one, executing Trump's agenda without delay.

They're constantly in and out of the West Wing, receiving instructions directly from the president. They've been told to move quickly, and they have. The contrast with the Biden administration—where an unelected staff made decisions while covering for an unfit president—could not be starker.

The Fight for AI Dominance

Looking ahead to the next three years, Jennings identified AI as a critical focus. When he asked President Trump whether the fight for AI control with China represents this generation's space race or Cold War, Trump responded: "It's all of that wrapped up into one."

Ensuring the United States maintains firm control over AI's future parameters represents a long-term national security imperative. This includes producing enough energy to win the AI race. These aren't short-term concerns but generational battles that will define Trump's legacy.

Keeping Promises

Throughout the interview, one theme emerged consistently: Trump keeps his promises. Whatever else can be said about him, he cannot be accused of failing to tell Americans what's on his mind or not following through on campaign commitments.

"The man keeps his promises. You have to admit," Jennings concluded. While voters will make decisions in 2026 and 2028, Trump has delivered on his word. He told Americans exactly what he would do, and now he's doing it—checking off boxes from his campaign promises at a remarkable pace.

Jennings' book, A Revolution of Common Sense, chronicles these first months of Trump's return to office, offering readers unprecedented access to the Oval Office, decision-making aboard Air Force One, and the mission to restore American strength at home and abroad. From chapters on DOGE and his interview with Elon Musk to coverage of achieving the most secure border in American history, Jennings documents a presidency defined by decisive action, common sense policies, and unwavering commitment to putting America first.

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[00:00] He's a trusted voice in conservative

[00:02] politics and one of the rare trutht

[00:03] tellers on CNN where he's a senior

[00:06] political contributor and battles it out

[00:08] nightly with his liberal co-panelist.

[00:10] Scott has written an inside account of

[00:13] President Trump's second term. It's

[00:15] called a revolution of common sense. How

[00:18] Donald Trump stormed Washington and

[00:20] fought for Western civilization. Scott

[00:23] takes you into the room. the Oval Office

[00:25] decisions, the strategy aboard Air Force

[00:27] One, and the mission to restore American

[00:30] strength at home and abroad. I sat down

[00:33] with him at the Republican Jewish

[00:35] Coalition Summit in Las Vegas to hear

[00:37] more. Scott Jennings, great to have you

[00:40] back with us. A Revolution of Common

[00:42] Sense. The book is out now. First of

[00:45] all, congratulations.

[00:47] Secondly,

[00:48] Donald Trump and you open the book with

[00:50] some great anecdotes about your meetings

[00:52] with him in the Oval Office or meeting

[00:54] your first meeting with him in

[00:55] particular. Why is he and we'll unpack

[00:58] all of it. Why is he different than any

[01:01] other leader we see in the world right

[01:02] now? What sets him apart and makes him

[01:05] so successful?

[01:06] >> Well, I think a couple of things. Number

[01:08] one, his willingness to not be hemmed in

[01:11] by the way we've always done it. That's

[01:13] the one thing that kept coming up in my

[01:15] conversations with him, the cabinet,

[01:17] other people that I spoke to, the

[01:19] observations I had with his meetings. He

[01:22] is just not going to be hemmed in by,

[01:24] well, we always did it that way. And so

[01:26] when you're talking about trying to

[01:27] forge peace in the Middle East, or

[01:29] you're talking about economic policy,

[01:30] you know, there's always people in

[01:32] Washington that want to say, well, we

[01:33] can't do that. We've never done that

[01:35] before. That's the last thing you want

[01:37] to tell Donald Trump. He's a he is truly

[01:39] an outside the lines thinker at a time

[01:41] when people want political leaders to

[01:44] think that way. The other thing I

[01:46] learned is writing this book. He picked

[01:48] the team for this administration that's

[01:50] right for his management style. I think

[01:53] the first time around good people but

[01:55] not a match for his leadership style.

[01:57] This time around the team that he picked

[01:59] knows how to work with him and they know

[02:01] how to execute on his leadership style.

[02:04] That is what allowed them to move so

[02:05] quickly and I think they learned a lot

[02:08] the first time around. They picked the

[02:10] team for him this time and you know I

[02:12] don't know a Trump supporter who isn't

[02:13] over the moon happy with the results. I

[02:15] mean they've moved faster and farther

[02:17] than anybody thought possible.

[02:18] >> Yeah. Number one, Scott, great points

[02:19] all around. He is an outsidethebox

[02:21] thinker. Imagine that. We think of the

[02:23] Gaza plan and his suggestions there.

[02:26] That's just one thing and we'll get into

[02:28] that. Uh but number two, what I took

[02:30] away from the book, he is firmly in

[02:32] charge. Yes,

[02:33] >> he is the f he's got a great team, a

[02:35] dream team around him, but he is the

[02:37] decision maker. Talk more about that,

[02:39] his decisiveness.

[02:40] >> So, the first time I went to meet with

[02:41] the president about all this in early

[02:43] February, I thought I was meeting with

[02:44] him alone and I walked into the Oval

[02:46] Office and most of the cabinet was in

[02:48] there and I watched him for a couple of

[02:51] hours conduct about six meetings at the

[02:53] same time and instruct people to do

[02:55] this, go find that out, come back. I I

[02:58] watched this whole orchestration of all

[03:00] this stuff and I was sitting there

[03:02] thinking to myself, I have no idea who

[03:05] was running the country the last four

[03:06] years, but I sure as heck know who's

[03:08] running it right now. And so, love it or

[03:10] hate it, Donald Trump, the elected

[03:12] president of the United States is firmly

[03:15] in charge and the nerve center of this

[03:16] government is the Oval Office behind the

[03:18] Resolute desk. There was nothing he

[03:21] wasn't dealing with that day. And I

[03:23] think the team is great, but he's the

[03:25] decider. He is the decision maker and he

[03:27] is very granular. The other thing I

[03:29] learned about observing him. He's a good

[03:32] listener. He likes to listen to people

[03:34] debate. He will ask questions. But his

[03:36] leadership style is to really pay

[03:39] attention and listen. Yeah. I think the

[03:41] the caricature of him is that he would

[03:43] just have preconceived ideas and

[03:45] wouldn't care what anyone thought.

[03:46] That's not true. He listens to these

[03:48] advisers have conversations and debate

[03:51] and then he makes decisions, but he's

[03:53] decisive. I think one of the problems

[03:55] with Biden, frankly, and this was

[03:57] historically his problem, just

[03:58] indecisiveness, hand ringing. You don't

[04:01] get that with Trump, once he makes a

[04:02] decision, the decision is made, and it's

[04:04] firm and everybody knows to go execute.

[04:06] >> Yeah. Number one, he's built for this.

[04:08] But secondly, I don't think he sleeps.

[04:10] He's a force of nature. He's a machine.

[04:12] Yes.

[04:13] >> And it's the antithesis, of course,

[04:14] Scott, as you mentioned, of Joe Biden

[04:16] and the Biden years.

[04:18] >> Can you talk about And you talked about

[04:20] the accomplishments. Incredible the

[04:21] first 10 months here. I mean, amazing.

[04:23] This is the accomplishments we may see

[04:25] over an eight-year tenure from most

[04:27] presidents. He's done it in just a few

[04:28] months. But can you talk about the mess

[04:30] he was left with that he inherited from

[04:32] the Biden administration on all levels,

[04:34] culturally, socially, foreign policy,

[04:36] economically? It was a disaster.

[04:38] >> Well, go down the list. I mean, number

[04:39] one, our immigration system was a

[04:41] disaster. And I think one of the reasons

[04:43] he was elected in the first place and

[04:44] then reelected is because of the

[04:46] immigration crisis in this country. You

[04:48] know, we haven't passed any new laws on

[04:50] immigration, but the border is somehow

[04:52] closed. We now have internal

[04:53] enforcement. What I have learned is is

[04:55] that the old administration had policies

[04:58] designed to have the border open and not

[05:00] enforce existing federal law. The only

[05:02] thing Donald Trump has done is say,

[05:04] "Let's just enforce the law."

[05:05] >> Right?

[05:06] >> Novel concept for a president, but

[05:08] that's what he's doing. That was a mess,

[05:09] but it is solved. He inherited an

[05:11] economic mess, an inflationary mess

[05:13] caused by Joe Biden's policies, and he's

[05:15] still digging out from that. probably

[05:17] one of the things that's nagging him the

[05:18] most just how deep of a hole Biden had

[05:21] put us in economically. But he passed

[05:23] the big beautiful bill. He kept taxes

[05:25] low. He's deregulating on the energy

[05:27] front. He's rebalancing our trade

[05:29] relationships. But I think it will take

[05:30] time for all these things to to flesh

[05:33] out and pan out. On the world stage, I

[05:35] mean, the the biggest thing he inherited

[05:37] was a weak America. Our president was

[05:41] weak. We had weak leadership. We had

[05:43] feckless leadership. We had indecisive

[05:46] leadership in the Oval Office and now

[05:48] >> Afghanistan withdrawal in 2021 went

[05:50] downhill from there.

[05:51] >> Of course. Of course. And so the world

[05:53] looked at us as a diminishing player.

[05:56] Now they look at us as the world's

[05:59] indispensable superpower once again. And

[06:02] look what happens when the American

[06:03] president is strong. You can solve wars.

[06:06] You can bring people to the table. You

[06:08] can get hostages back, which he's done

[06:09] all over the country, all over the

[06:11] world, I should say. certainly in the

[06:13] Middle East, out of Russia, even strong

[06:15] American leadership matters. And so

[06:17] reversing that trend culturally, you

[06:20] know, another reason he was elected in

[06:22] 2024, the Democrats had gone off into

[06:24] the cultural ditch on transgender

[06:26] ideology and a whole bunch of other

[06:27] things. DEI,

[06:29] um, he's ended all of that. He's

[06:31] reversed that. The pendulum is swinging

[06:33] back. People are grateful that he has

[06:34] made it so that you can just tell the

[06:36] truth again. You can just say what

[06:38] everyone's thinking again. And more than

[06:40] anything, I think he has just instilled

[06:43] a sense of common sense. That's why I

[06:45] called the book a revolution of common

[06:46] sense. He used that phrase in his

[06:48] inaugural address. When he said it, I

[06:50] thought, "That's the book. That's that

[06:53] is the most genius political branding."

[06:56] And on his hundth day in office, I flew

[06:59] with him to Michigan and he said, I'll

[07:01] paraphrase, you know, whether you're

[07:02] right or whether you left, it doesn't

[07:04] matter what you are. It's just common

[07:06] sense. And you talk to people who are

[07:08] not really all that politically engaged.

[07:10] Maybe they've never voted before. They

[07:12] were attracted to the common sense

[07:14] nature of what he's trying to do. So,

[07:17] and and of course, what Biden was doing

[07:18] on so many fronts was outsourcing his

[07:20] agenda to people so far on the radical

[07:23] left that everything they were doing

[07:24] felt like nonsense, uncommon nonsense.

[07:28] But he has to reverse all that. And

[07:30] we're well on our way to doing it. Uh,

[07:31] and you know, I know his advisers are

[07:33] happy with the progress they've made. I

[07:36] did talk to one of them during the uh

[07:38] process of writing the book and I said,

[07:40] you know, he seems to be doing so many

[07:42] things on a daily basis and the adviser

[07:45] said, well, you know, he knows he

[07:46] doesn't have much time to save the

[07:48] country and that's why he's moving so

[07:50] quickly because he knows how close to

[07:52] the brink we really were. Well, there's

[07:55] a sense of urgency and Scott, you've

[07:57] common sense for sure on CNN as you're

[07:59] jousting with leftists every night.

[08:01] You've called these 8020 issues.

[08:03] >> Yeah. Uh 80% of the American people

[08:05] agree on where President Trump stands

[08:07] and the other 20 is on the fringe and

[08:08] it's madness. One of those obviously the

[08:11] gender madness. You referenced it a

[08:13] minute ago, men and women's locker

[08:14] rooms, little children being mutilated.

[08:17] Yeah.

[08:17] >> Um talk more about that because I think

[08:19] on day one, President Trump as he was

[08:21] inaugurated, signed an executive order

[08:23] banning that child sex change

[08:26] mutilations. Talk more about that, how

[08:28] that factors into common sense. This is

[08:31] when we talk about saving

[08:32] Judeo-Christian western civilization. If

[08:34] we can't save our kids, it seems and we

[08:36] can't save the civilization.

[08:38] >> Well, I think if you can erase someone's

[08:39] gender in the way that the left wants to

[08:42] be able to do it, you can erase them

[08:43] from the law. I mean, we have immutable

[08:45] characteristics, God-given immutable

[08:47] traits, and that is connected to the way

[08:50] we do civil rights in this country. But

[08:51] if you can erase those, if you can

[08:53] change those, they're no longer

[08:54] immutable. You can erase people from the

[08:56] law. That's what they're doing to women.

[08:57] I think the Republican party under

[08:59] Donald Trump is fighting for true civil

[09:02] rights, especially the civil rights of

[09:03] women because what the left was doing

[09:06] was effectively saying you they can't

[09:09] define what a woman is. You can become

[09:11] one and that they can't answer it. And

[09:13] and when you start to really go down

[09:15] that rabbit hole, what you start to

[09:16] realize is is well, they're devaluing

[09:19] women in this way. Trump said no more. I

[09:22] think one of the most iconic photos that

[09:24] he took in the first 100 days was having

[09:27] all those female athletes at the White

[09:29] House where he signed the executive

[09:31] order about banning uh men from women's

[09:33] sports. And then what happened? The US

[09:35] Olympic Committee or the International

[09:36] Olympic Committee followed suit and

[09:38] they're not going to allow that in

[09:40] future Olympics. And so leadership on

[09:42] this has consequences and it's also I

[09:45] think given a permission structure for

[09:46] everybody out there just to say finally

[09:48] we don't have to tiptoe around this

[09:50] anymore. There's a heck of a lot of

[09:52] people out there and a bunch of liberal

[09:54] Democrats who don't want their little

[09:55] girls having to swim against or play

[09:57] volleyball against boys. They don't want

[09:59] boys in their girls locker rooms and

[10:01] they felt trapped by their own political

[10:03] party and Donald Trump has come along

[10:05] and put an end to this nonsense.

[10:07] >> Scott, can you talk about that last

[10:09] point? Look, the left now, and again,

[10:11] you're battling every night on CNN, of

[10:13] course, in the lion's den, but where the

[10:15] Democrat party is now, where the left is

[10:17] right now, and what President Trump is

[10:19] up against there, and honestly, what we

[10:22] averted last November with a Harris

[10:25] Waltz administration, God forbid. Um,

[10:27] where are they right now? They're in the

[10:29] political wilderness, it seems, but

[10:30] ideologically, they're way out there on

[10:32] the far left and and the radical left.

[10:34] Well, they're in the thr of a bunch of

[10:37] radical progressive socialists, and they

[10:40] don't even really try to hide it

[10:41] anymore. They're proud to call

[10:42] themselves socialists. The beating heart

[10:45] of the Democratic party right now is

[10:47] this socialist energy, the Mandani

[10:49] energy, the AOC energy. That's where all

[10:53] the energy is in their party. They held

[10:54] it off in 2020 and in 2016. I don't know

[10:58] if they're going to be able to hold it

[10:59] off anymore. And honestly, look, you

[11:02] know, there's part of me that says,

[11:03] "Well, I guess that's good for the

[11:04] Republicans because the more radical

[11:06] they get, the more anti-American they

[11:08] become, the easier it is for Republicans

[11:10] to win." But I don't think it's good for

[11:11] one of our two political parties uh to

[11:14] be going down this very anti-American,

[11:17] anti- capitalist, anti-free market path.

[11:20] It's antithetical to the founding of the

[11:22] country. It's not good for our political

[11:25] culture uh for one of our parties to be

[11:28] captured, I think, by this ideology. And

[11:29] of course, the only way to change it is

[11:31] to keep beating them in elections, they

[11:33] have a very low image right now. Um, but

[11:36] at the same time, a lot of people who

[11:37] used to be Democrats, I think about my

[11:39] father who was a a blueco collar guy

[11:41] from West Kentucky, was the biggest

[11:43] Clinton guy I ever knew. I come from a

[11:44] family of Democrats.

[11:45] >> Yeah.

[11:46] >> He was the first person to tell me that

[11:47] Donald Trump was going to be the

[11:48] president.

[11:49] >> And like a lot of people back then, I

[11:51] thought, "Oh, come on." Yeah.

[11:52] >> But he knew. He knew because all of his

[11:55] uh contemporaries, his peers,

[11:57] working-class guys from middle America,

[11:59] they knew what was happening to their

[12:00] old party. They knew that party didn't

[12:02] represent them anymore. Trump comes

[12:04] along and he speaks in the way that

[12:07] people like my dad would speak if

[12:08] anybody ever bothered to put a

[12:09] microphone in his face.

[12:11] >> Yeah.

[12:11] >> And that's his that's the magic of the

[12:14] political movement. He recognized how

[12:16] far outside the mainstream the Democrats

[12:19] had become. And he said, "Look, I don't

[12:21] want you to, you know, think too deeply

[12:23] about political ideologies. I just want

[12:24] you to think about common sense. You

[12:26] called them 8020 issues. That's what I

[12:27] called them. But I think I was wrong. I

[12:29] think some of them are 9010, 955,

[12:32] >> especially and on these cultural

[12:34] matters." Uh, and Trump knew it. And by

[12:36] the way, he's not afraid. How many of us

[12:39] walk around this world and we know what

[12:41] the truth is, but we're afraid. You know

[12:44] what will happen to us at work? What

[12:45] will happen to us at school? What will

[12:47] happen to us in our social circles? The

[12:49] man fears nothing.

[12:51] >> And when you fear nothing and you show

[12:53] that kind of leadership, it gives

[12:54] confidence to everybody else.

[12:55] >> Yeah. I can so relate to your story

[12:57] about your dad. I grew up in a

[12:58] working-class neighborhood in Northeast

[12:59] Philadelphia. A lot of Democrats all

[13:01] flipped to the Trump column. It was

[13:03] amazing to watch it unfold. And for the

[13:04] reasons you mentioned,

[13:06] >> hey, we can't talk about President

[13:07] Trump's leadership, Scott, without

[13:08] talking about how he uses leverage

[13:11] >> and peace through strength.

[13:13] >> Yes. uh economically and now look we

[13:15] have trillions of dollars of foreign

[13:16] investment coming into the United States

[13:19] and obviously the big foreign policy

[13:20] wins. You were in Israel during the

[13:22] 12-day war as it broke out. Uh talk

[13:25] about his approach to foreign affairs

[13:28] and dealing with other countries.

[13:30] >> Well, a couple things. Number one, he

[13:32] negotiates from a position of strength

[13:33] whereas Biden was always from a position

[13:35] of weakness. So that automatically

[13:37] advantages us when we're talking to

[13:39] countries about anything. Number two,

[13:41] you know, he firmly believes in tariffs.

[13:43] Um, he believes that tariffs are more

[13:45] than just an economic policy. He views

[13:47] them as a tool of national diplomacy and

[13:49] national security. It's one of his

[13:51] longest and most deeply held uh

[13:53] political views.

[13:54] >> Big William McKinley fan.

[13:56] >> Yes. I mean, he he I think in his heart

[13:57] of hearts, if he could go back to a

[13:59] world where our government was just

[14:01] based on tariffs, we didn't have income

[14:02] taxes and everything else, we didn't

[14:04] have an IRS, that's what he would do.

[14:06] But I think he believes that's what the

[14:08] country would best run on. That's his

[14:11] theory. Now, it's interesting, and I

[14:12] write about this in my book. This is not

[14:14] where the Republican party has

[14:16] traditionally been. It's not what

[14:18] Republicans were trained to believe by

[14:19] Ronald Reagan and others. And so, I

[14:21] would say on that issue, that's probably

[14:24] the area of Republican orthodoxy that he

[14:26] has changed the most. And it'll be

[14:29] interesting to see uh after he leaves

[14:31] office whether that policy continues to

[14:33] be a central pillar of the Republican

[14:35] platform or not. And of course, we'll

[14:37] have to see how it it plays out. You

[14:39] know, I I think what he's done

[14:40] economically is put America first and

[14:43] American workers first. And he's using

[14:45] policies to reshore jobs and try to give

[14:49] us greater advantages. And you know,

[14:51] look, the American people will

[14:52] ultimately decide if they want this to

[14:54] continue or not. uh his fervent view is

[14:57] that we will have more jobs. People will

[14:59] have better paying jobs and we're not

[15:01] going to be taken advantage of by other

[15:03] countries. That'll be, you know, the

[15:05] Republican party's um future to continue

[15:08] to carry that forward. Uh and look, I

[15:10] think JD Vance is going to be the next

[15:12] nominee and obviously he believes in it,

[15:14] too. Uh so I think on the world stage

[15:16] it's just position of strength using the

[15:18] tools that are available and not being

[15:20] hemmed in by old ideologies or old you

[15:24] know we can't do it that way. It's made

[15:26] him a really powerful president. Uh and

[15:29] we needed one because what we had before

[15:30] was so weak.

[15:31] >> Yeah. And great point you see him in

[15:33] Egypt recently Scott. After the Gaza

[15:35] ceasefire deal is announced he goes next

[15:37] door to Egypt for meetings there. I

[15:39] mean, world leaders clamoring to have

[15:41] their picture with him, to talk to him,

[15:42] to get a moment with him. One thing that

[15:45] strikes me about him is he'll talk to

[15:46] anyone.

[15:47] >> Yes.

[15:48] >> China, Russia, North Korea. If he could,

[15:50] he would talk to Iran. But, as you said,

[15:52] he always does it from a position of

[15:54] strength.

[15:55] >> And And he does it from a position of

[15:57] what kind of deal can I get for America?

[15:59] I talked to Marco Rubio from my book and

[16:02] it's one of the things he impressed upon

[16:03] me is that the beginning and ending of

[16:06] every strategic conversation they have

[16:07] is what are we trying to get out of this

[16:10] for the United States of America. It's

[16:12] one of the reasons they reorganized the

[16:13] State Department and our foreign aid

[16:14] system. They had determined that it just

[16:17] wasn't being operated in a way that was

[16:19] serving America's best interest on the

[16:21] foreign stage. It doesn't make foreign

[16:23] aid bad. It just means the bureaucracy

[16:25] that had grown up around it wasn't

[16:27] necessarily in service of the foreign

[16:29] policy of the American government. Rubio

[16:31] told me in fact that you there were

[16:33] multiple times where the foreign aid

[16:35] distribution system was doing things at

[16:37] cross purposes with whatever the

[16:39] ambassador in that country thought was

[16:40] the best thing to do for America's

[16:42] relationship with that particular area.

[16:45] Well, they said even though we've always

[16:47] done it this way, we can reorganize it

[16:49] and put it back on a footing of what's

[16:51] best for America. I think that's the

[16:53] question he asks himself. I'm

[16:55] negotiating with a company. I'm

[16:56] negotiating with a foreign government.

[16:58] I'm negotiating with Democrats. Whatever

[17:00] I'm negotiating with, the question is,

[17:03] what's best for America? What's best for

[17:05] the United States? They start there and

[17:07] then he gets as close to that as

[17:09] possible. And I think he's got a pretty

[17:10] darn darn good track record of it.

[17:12] >> It truly is America first. Imagine that.

[17:14] >> Yeah.

[17:15] >> Hey, for the book, you had incredible

[17:16] access, by the way. President Trump, of

[17:18] course, Marco Rubio, various members of

[17:21] the administration. What struck you the

[17:23] most about how this administration

[17:24] operates? Obviously, as you said

[17:26] earlier, he's firmly in charge, but do

[17:28] you get a sense? In the first term,

[17:30] there were some people who weren't on

[17:32] board with the MAGA agenda, I think, who

[17:33] were working in the administration, but

[17:35] now it seems to be a very unified kind

[17:38] of message and worldview coming out of

[17:41] the administration. He's got his people,

[17:43] it seems, now around him.

[17:45] >> Yes. the people that he has hired for

[17:47] this administration at the cabinet level

[17:48] and at the staff level know how to

[17:51] operate under his leadership style. I

[17:53] think that was the difference between

[17:55] Trump 2 and Trump one. Doesn't make

[17:56] those people from the first term bad.

[17:58] They just weren't a fit. Some you ever

[18:00] take a job where you and your boss just

[18:01] weren't a fit for each other. Of course,

[18:02] I mean it happens in this

[18:04] administration. They knew they were

[18:06] going to win. They thought they were

[18:07] going to win. They had a plan. They had

[18:08] the idea of who they wanted to bring in

[18:10] for most of these jobs. They've made

[18:12] inspired picks. Rubio is the best

[18:15] secretary of state we've ever had. Scott

[18:17] Besson is a beast. Okay. Lee Zeldon over

[18:21] at EPA, the the things he's done on the

[18:23] endangerment finding. These are the

[18:25] consequential decisions go down the line

[18:28] and all these people that he chose hit

[18:30] the ground on day one executing on his

[18:33] agenda. They didn't wait. They're not

[18:36] sitting around. They're not over there

[18:38] enjoying the trappings of the offices.

[18:40] They're in and out of the West Wing all

[18:41] day getting instructions from the

[18:43] president about what to do next. They've

[18:44] been told, "Move quickly and they have

[18:47] all followed that instruction and it's

[18:50] working." Um, when you think about what

[18:51] he promised and what they're delivering,

[18:54] he's checked a lot of boxes from the

[18:56] campaign and you know, his voters are

[18:58] happy about it.

[18:59] >> No doubt. It's almost a

[19:00] counterrevolution, I guess you could

[19:02] say, to the madness we saw in the prior

[19:04] four years. Well, I'll tell you

[19:05] something about the prior four years.

[19:07] You had a a president who obviously

[19:09] wasn't fit for office. We're now

[19:10] learning about that. You had an

[19:12] unelected staff that was making all

[19:15] kinds of decisions. And you know, you

[19:17] had a president who had campaigned on

[19:19] being, you know, this moderate dealmaker

[19:21] who then totally outsourced his domestic

[19:23] policy agenda to the radicals in his

[19:26] party. He sold the American people a

[19:28] bill of goods. I'm capable and I'm

[19:30] moderate.

[19:31] >> Yeah.

[19:32] >> None of that was true. what Donald Trump

[19:34] told the American people is exactly what

[19:36] I'm going to do and now he's doing it.

[19:38] >> You can say a lot of things about Donald

[19:40] Trump, but uh A, you can never accuse

[19:41] him of not telling us what's on his

[19:43] mind.

[19:44] >> And B, you can't accuse him of anything

[19:46] other than following the things that he

[19:48] said in the campaign. He is making

[19:51] promises come true. Now, look, the

[19:52] American people will have decisions to

[19:54] make in 26 and 28, but the man keeps his

[19:57] promises. You have to admit.

[19:58] >> Yeah. It's got about a minute left. Last

[20:00] question. in the book chronicles the

[20:02] first months of President Trump's return

[20:04] to office. What do you see coming in the

[20:06] next 3 years? What are some things maybe

[20:09] we can expect? Some big initiatives

[20:11] coming down the pipe perhaps with this

[20:13] administration.

[20:13] >> Well, I think a continued focus on

[20:15] winning the AI race. Um I asked

[20:17] President Trump not too long ago

[20:19] actually, you know, is the fight for

[20:21] control of AI with China, is this your

[20:23] version of the space race or the Cold

[20:24] War? And he said it's all of that

[20:25] wrapped up into one. So, it's making

[20:28] sure that the United States is firmly in

[20:30] control of the parameters of AI in the

[20:33] future and that we make enough energy to

[20:35] win it. To me, when you think about like

[20:38] legacy winning AI battles against China

[20:41] and making enough energy to win the

[20:43] battles, this isn't a short-term issue.

[20:45] This is a long-term national security

[20:47] issue, and I know his commitment to it.

[20:48] >> Wow, Scott. Amazing. There's so much to

[20:50] cover in the book, by the way, Doge. I

[20:52] have a chapter on Doge.

[20:52] >> Interviewed Elon.

[20:54] >> Yes, you did. The most secure border in

[20:55] American history. It it came about a

[20:58] week after he came in office. You

[20:59] chronicle all of them the book. It's a

[21:01] great one, Scott. We're glad you wrote

[21:02] it. Good work, my friend. God bless. We

[21:04] appreciate it. Keep it up.

[21:05] >> Thank you very much, Scott.

[21:05] >> Appreciate it.

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