Erika Kirk Reveals How Charlie Kirk's Sabbath Practice Transformed His Life and Leadership Legacy

[00:00] Erica Kirk here. The name of the book is

[00:01] stop in the name of God. Why honoring

[00:03] the Sabbath will transform your life. I

[00:05] have always and again I am not a

[00:07] religious scholar but I know people who

[00:09] are Orthodox Jewish Jewish Orthodox Jews

[00:12] >> and that's the ones and they're by by

[00:14] the way almost all of them are almost

[00:16] billionaires but they go don't call me

[00:18] on Saturday.

[00:19] >> Why? I can't get back to you. That's I'm

[00:21] off. Remember Joe Lieberman he's running

[00:23] for president. I'm off. I don't I don't

[00:25] use cars. I don't do anything. I didn't

[00:27] equivocate I didn't uh I didn't play

[00:29] that out to Christianity. Is it for both

[00:32] religions?

[00:33] >> Well, it it is a commandment. It's part

[00:35] of the ten commandments. But what

[00:36] Charlie's trying to explain in this book

[00:38] is that put the legalism aside, look at

[00:42] this from the standpoint of if you don't

[00:45] honor the Sabbath, meaning the day of

[00:46] rest, God is asking you to just press

[00:49] pause and rest and be with him so that

[00:52] he can use you and you can be the man or

[00:54] the woman that he needs you to be in

[00:56] order to make a difference in this

[00:57] world. Charlie's saying, don't get

[00:59] caught up in the legalism of it.

[01:02] Instead, do what you can to say, "Okay,

[01:06] there's these are a few hours that I can

[01:08] turn my phone off, disconnect, be with

[01:09] the Lord, be with my family, and

[01:11] unplug." There are certain thing like

[01:13] for us, we would make sure that Friday

[01:14] night it was family dinner night, and

[01:16] then all day Saturday was family time.

[01:18] Charlie always priorit prioritized

[01:20] myself and the children, and he would

[01:22] also make sure that we would get a date

[01:23] night in. He made sure to that I always

[01:26] knew that I was always always above

[01:29] anything else. And he made that

[01:31] amplified during the Sabbath.

[01:33] >> It's interesting because after he hosted

[01:35] Fox and Friends, so I texted him right

[01:37] away and I said, "Are you interested in

[01:39] doing this? I I've never seen somebody

[01:41] just take to it right away because you

[01:42] know Fox and Friends is a slice of life.

[01:44] It's not here. Here's the news. It is

[01:46] how are you how do you feel about the

[01:48] news? What is your opinion of the news?

[01:49] Is there a format better built for him

[01:51] that?"

[01:52] >> So he goes, "Brian, not a chance. Do you

[01:55] see my weekends?" And I a part of it was

[01:57] this. He goes, "Yeah, I'm not available.

[01:59] They're sacred. They're sacred because

[02:00] he could not do or operate on the level

[02:03] that he was without having a minute to

[02:06] breathe. And he wanted to also be able

[02:08] to show an example. He's a father.

[02:10] People sometimes forget. Yes, he was a

[02:12] movement leader, but he was a dad to a

[02:15] son. Even though my baby boy is very

[02:18] little, he did not take that lightly. He

[02:20] knew that I am not raising a boy. I am

[02:22] raising a man. And so if I'm going to be

[02:25] what I want my son to be or to look up

[02:27] to, I need to live up to that standard.

[02:29] I need to stop doing things that he

[02:31] Charlie didn't drink. Not because again

[02:33] being legalistic, but he could not

[02:35] operate the way he needed to operate

[02:37] >> being drunk. Like that just does not

[02:39] happen. Or going out and partying with

[02:41] the boys. That doesn't happen. Yes, you

[02:43] can have fun. There's many different

[02:45] ways of having fun. This is not supposed

[02:47] to put guard rails on your quote unquote

[02:48] fun. It's supposed to put into

[02:50] perspective how you can be a true

[02:53] spiritual head and leader of your home

[02:55] so that your son can be the spiritual

[02:58] leader and head of his home. And we need

[03:00] to make strong young men that are

[03:02] respectful to their wives and to their

[03:04] children and know look there is a

[03:07] different way of living that will

[03:08] enhance your life in a way you couldn't

[03:10] even have imagined rather than thinking

[03:12] you're getting your answers from

[03:13] college.

[03:13] >> So the name of the book is stop in the

[03:15] name of God. Go to 45books.com to order

[03:17] it right now. But just a question about

[03:19] you. Yes. Where did who

[03:21] >> is responsible for raising someone like

[03:23] yourself with the values and ethics and

[03:25] drive that you have? Like how did you

[03:27] become you?

[03:28] >> I have an amazing family. My mother's

[03:31] the blessing of all. My father was

[03:33] amazing as well. Although my parents

[03:35] were divorced when I was five, I was

[03:38] very very close also to my grandparents.

[03:40] And my grandparents I was with them

[03:42] every Saturday. So without me even

[03:44] knowing, I guess now just even thinking

[03:46] of this with you, that I guess was my

[03:48] Sabbath. I went and stayed with my

[03:49] grandparents um Saturday all day

[03:52] Saturday, Saturday night would come home

[03:54] to my mom on Sunday. But on Saturday

[03:56] night after having dinner with my

[03:58] grandparents, we'd watched the Lawrence

[04:00] Welk show. I was I guess I that started

[04:04] when I was 10 and didn't end until I was

[04:06] 18. So for me, but that was my and but

[04:10] this is really sweet even reminiscing on

[04:12] this. That was I guess my form of a

[04:13] Sabbath.

[04:14] >> So you were always family oriented.

[04:16] >> Always. Always. Family is so important

[04:18] and that's and Charlie saw that too and

[04:19] that's why we understood how important

[04:21] tradition was and pouring into your

[04:23] family and being being so close to each

[04:26] other because at the end of the day when

[04:27] it's all said and done with your short

[04:29] life here, what are you leaving behind?

[04:31] You you don't get to take anything with

[04:32] you. Charlie did not have anything

[04:34] attached to his casket. He didn't have

[04:37] his books, his radio show, nothing. He

[04:39] came into this world the same way as he

[04:41] exited. And so what are you going to

[04:43] leave behind? You're leaving behind your

[04:45] legacy with your family and your

[04:46] children.

[04:46] >> So he knew he felt like he was in a rush

[04:49] to achieve.

[04:50] >> He had a vision.

[04:51] >> He had a vision.

[04:52] >> And from what you know and what you know

[04:54] about his childhood, what laid the

[04:55] groundwork for that?

[04:57] >> He always was so good with time. He was

[04:59] an unbelievable

[05:02] person of time management down to the

[05:04] millisecond. And he always knew that if

[05:07] I could if I could steward my time in a

[05:10] way that was productive and a way that

[05:12] was always moving towards something

[05:14] bigger and something greater that he was

[05:17] in the right jetream and that and that's

[05:20] how he operated.

[05:20] >> Was did that come from his parents or

[05:22] was that how he

[05:23] >> I think that's just how he was wired. He

[05:24] was ne it was never some I don't think

[05:27] you it's very very hard to learn how to

[05:29] be very good at time management. You can

[05:31] learn, but to master it at his level,

[05:33] that's a total God blessing and a gift.

[05:35] >> Oh yeah. He for a guy that had so much

[05:37] going on, he never seemed in a rush,

[05:39] right? He always seemed like he knew.

[05:41] >> He was very intentional. Okay, I have

[05:42] five minutes. And then he got everything

[05:43] out in five minutes and then he was on

[05:45] to the next meeting, on to the next

[05:46] event. Wow. He was very intentional.

[05:48] >> So, uh, Erica Kirk is doing a book tour

[05:50] for Charlie Kirk's last book, Herus

[05:52] Husband. It's Stop in the Name of God:

[05:54] Why Honoring the Sabbath Will Transform

[05:55] Your Life. I got it yesterday. I got

[05:57] through half of it in like an hour. It's

[05:58] really great.

[05:59] >> It's powerful. It's uh it's excellent.

[06:01] So, but you don't stop and I know that

[06:03] when the message I know it's certain to

[06:04] be a bestseller. Go to 45books.com. So,

[06:07] Erica as everything you got to do

[06:09] running turning point action which is

[06:11] the vote

[06:12] >> turning point USA which is the college

[06:14] tour and the next generation the youth

[06:16] and then you have to do this thing. You

[06:18] have the media element to you with the

[06:20] the very successful podcast.

[06:22] >> And then what about you the mom and the

[06:24] kids? Mh.

[06:26] >> How do you choose now with all the

[06:28] people around you who will be the the

[06:30] role models that you want your kids to

[06:32] be influenced by?

[06:33] >> Well, we have a phenomenal team at

[06:34] Turning Point USA. It's a family and

[06:37] Charlie handpicked every single person

[06:39] that's in leadership. So, what the

[06:41] beautiful part about Turning Point USA

[06:43] is that everyone behind the scenes when

[06:45] you pull back the curtain, they're doing

[06:46] exactly what they were doing on 99

[06:49] before 910 happened.

[06:50] >> And we haven't lost speed. I mean, yes,

[06:53] of course, we took time to mourn, but

[06:55] our team, for example, when Charlie was

[06:59] murdered, within 7 days, we were able by

[07:03] the grace of God and we pushed through

[07:06] to put on that memorial for him. Our

[07:09] team does not look at this as a 9 to5.

[07:12] It's vision-ledd. It's movementdriven,

[07:16] but it's also a way for our whole team

[07:20] to put their pain into something that is

[07:23] so bigger than any of us. And we all

[07:27] need this organization just as much as

[07:29] this country does. So it doesn't it's

[07:31] not a job to us.

[07:32] >> So I know here you put it together and

[07:34] how hard people worked, but even you

[07:36] must have been astounded by the number

[07:38] of people that

[07:40] >> and it took over the whole town.

[07:42] >> Blown away. Not even the town. more on

[07:44] the outside than the inside. It was a

[07:46] global ripple effect that no one I mean

[07:49] yes I knew my husband had impact

[07:52] >> but to that multitude and extent is the

[07:55] Lord

[07:56] >> and and only God can use someone to that

[08:00] capacity when you surrender yourself

[08:03] fully and say Lord use me how you need

[08:05] to

[08:05] >> and then you to walk out in front of 70

[08:08] 80,000 people people watching around the

[08:10] globe our network never took a break we

[08:12] covered that and knowing you were

[08:14] grieving because uh Charlie is is no

[08:17] longer with us. Can you bring me to that

[08:20] moment when you walk out?

[08:22] >> So, I intentionally stayed in my own

[08:25] green room that whole time. I listened

[08:27] to some of the worship music. Actually,

[08:29] I listened to all of it. Um but there

[08:32] was a moment where they were they said,

[08:34] "Do you want to go and stand behind

[08:36] stage so you can see and feel?" I said,

[08:38] "No, I I I don't want to sit I want to

[08:41] be able to feel that whole emotion the

[08:44] second I walk out on stage." Like, I

[08:45] want to feel the true impact of this

[08:48] moment. Cuz they said, "Do you want to

[08:50] sit out there?" And I said, "No, I just

[08:51] want to pray. I just want to be alone

[08:54] with with my thoughts and with the Lord

[08:55] before I step out on that stage." And it

[08:58] just was the most overwhelming.

[09:02] I mean when you hear a stadium and

[09:07] on when you hear them say singing

[09:10] hallelujah

[09:11] that is a slice of heaven on earth that

[09:14] I don't think anyone will ever be able

[09:15] to put into words. It was unbelievably

[09:18] powerful.

[09:19] >> But then you have to speak

[09:20] >> and then you have to speak.

[09:22] >> And then you see the videos of my kids

[09:24] and him and like it is just

[09:25] gut-wrenching.

[09:27] >> And you did.

[09:28] >> You have to you have to put life is

[09:30] tough.

[09:32] It is beautiful, but it is tough. And

[09:34] you are going to have to find a way. And

[09:36] anyone who has been through hell and

[09:37] back knows this. When you go through and

[09:40] and we were just talking about this off

[09:41] air, you have a decision to make when

[09:44] something like this happens in your

[09:45] life. Are you going to go into the

[09:47] corner and be in fetal position and just

[09:50] let it happen and and you know, cry and

[09:53] cry and cry? Yes, there are moments to

[09:54] cry. Yes. But are you going to turn that

[09:56] moment into something and say, you know

[09:58] what, God, give me grace. Please give me

[10:00] grace. I don't know what I'm going to

[10:01] do. I don't know how I'm going to do it.

[10:03] But I know that you will put one foot in

[10:04] front of the other and you will help me

[10:06] get through this, Lord. You will help

[10:07] me. Again, I don't know how, but I will.

[10:10] Whatever strength you give me,

[10:12] strengthen strengthen the inner workings

[10:13] of my soul, Lord. Use me how you need to

[10:16] use me. Use this to make a difference.

[10:18] You have a decision.

[10:19] >> And I could see that determination in

[10:21] seeing you face to face. Stop in the

[10:23] name of God is out. Go to 45books.com.

[10:26] How interested are you in the

[10:29] investigation about what goes on? Like

[10:31] what what role does that play in

[10:33] everything that you think about?

[10:35] >> No, it's a it's a great question. We

[10:36] have a phenomenal team. I am in contact

[10:38] with our attorneys and the prosecutors

[10:40] basically daily being like, "Anything

[10:42] new? Anything new?" We

[10:46] we know without a shadow of a doubt with

[10:48] the evidence that we have that we're

[10:50] we're moving in the correct direction.

[10:52] >> I trust our team with full stop. Is it

[10:55] be is part of it because you know who

[10:57] Cash Patel is and Dan Bonino is at the

[10:59] head or is it Joe?

[11:00] >> It's not even that when you have the

[11:02] truth and the facts you don't need I

[11:04] mean you don't need anything else. I've

[11:06] seen the autopsy report. I've seen all

[11:08] of that. I mean I if if if you have the

[11:11] truth and you don't believe the truth I

[11:12] don't know what to tell you.

[11:14] >> But yet people don't believe people

[11:16] don't trust anything that they're

[11:18] seeing. We I've been blown away by

[11:19] people come up to me and say hey I know

[11:21] you interviewed Charlie but you know

[11:22] we're not getting the right story. Well,

[11:23] what do you mean do not get in the

[11:24] right? Well, you know that that didn't

[11:26] that gun couldn't have done this or he

[11:27] couldn't have been there or something

[11:28] happened in the middle. I had somebody

[11:30] come up to me and say, "Someone popped

[11:31] out of a manhole cover and shot him

[11:33] directly and that manhole covers been

[11:36] been covered up." I go, "I've never

[11:38] heard of a crazier thing." And they

[11:39] thought I was crazy for even questioning

[11:41] them.

[11:42] >> I mean, you must be getting this. It's

[11:44] >> the conspiracy thing.

[11:45] >> I have heard all of them. I have heard

[11:48] all of them. And

[11:51] thank God we have a trial coming up.

[11:53] Unfortunately, that trial is in a long

[11:55] time. What I want to be mindful of for

[11:59] people is that this was a murder.

[12:03] This is not something that

[12:07] what I don't want to have happen is for

[12:11] this to taint the jury pool.

[12:14] I don't I want my husband I want justice

[12:18] for my husband more than any other

[12:20] person on the internet any other person

[12:23] in this world that was my husband and

[12:25] the father to my kids we will make sure

[12:28] and we have been turning over every

[12:31] single stone going down every single

[12:34] lead so when these people say oh they

[12:36] haven't talked about this or done that

[12:38] how do you know you're not in those

[12:41] those meetings with the attorneys and

[12:43] the process prosecutors. You have no

[12:44] idea. And why would we share that

[12:48] information with the internet

[12:51] >> to to what then? Give the defense more

[12:54] stuff that's not true. Like it's just

[12:56] you at the end of the day when it's all

[12:58] said and done, the truth is the truth.

[12:59] >> And the this is book is fantastic. I

[13:02] really encourage everyone to get it.

[13:03] Stop in the name of God. Why honoring

[13:05] the Sabbath will transform your life.

[13:06] Erica Kirk, great to see you. Good luck

[13:08] on the five today. Thanks for putting up

[13:10] me with with two interviews.

[13:12] >> Oh, no. It's good. You're the best. God

[13:13] bless you.