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Erika Kirk’s Manipulation Was Caught On Camera — This Behavior Is DISTURBING
Erika Kirk’s behavior on the newly released Zoom call is… something else entirely. 😳 Tonight we break down the FULL video Candace Owens just shared — not just the audio, but the visuals… the expressions, the smiling, and the unsettling tone while Charlie Kirk had only been gone for less than two weeks. This isn’t just “weird†— it’s manipulative, and the camera does not lie. 🎥 Erika pushes the team to write down personal conversations with Charlie the way someone
Erika Kirk’s behavior on the newly released Zoom call is… something else entirely. 😳
Tonight we break down the FULL video Candace Owens just shared — not just the audio, but the visuals… the expressions, the smiling, and the unsettling tone while Charlie Kirk had only been gone for less than two weeks.
This isn’t just “weird” — it’s manipulative, and the camera does not lie. 🎥
Erika pushes the team to write down personal conversations with Charlie the way someone would treat scripture…
She frames him like a spiritual figure…
And the contrast between her tone and the gravity of the moment is deeply disturbing.
💥 We’ll analyze:
• Why Erika’s smiling and lightness hit people the wrong way
• How her language guides the team emotionally
• The psychological pressure baked into her instructions
• Why Candace Owens chose to release THIS clip today
• What this means moving forward for Turning Point and Charlie’s inner circle
This episode is one of the most revealing breakdowns yet — and the footage speaks for itself. 🔍🔥
Stick around for the full discussion, the evidence, and the community conversation.
Nothing about this situation is normal.
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Whoop! Let's get it. I am here. I am here. I'm sorry I'm a couple minutes late. I had I had to put face lotion on. I had to. I don't know why. And I have to put it on my head. You You never see my head, but I have to put it on my head. I just have to. I apologize. I'm late. Stereotypically valid. [laughter] Two minutes late for uh someone like me is actually a couple of minutes early. You have to understand. Anyway, here in the biggest shirt that I could possibly get. I am here to bring it to you guys. Let's get into it. Thank you for all the love in the chat. I love that you guys are here. I love that you guys are chatting. I really, really, really Yes. hit the like. I I listen. I always forget to say it. Thank you. It's me for reminding me to say it. I have to say hit the like. It's the most important thing besides the information. Besides even Mikey McCoy, I know I feel a little feel a little crazy saying something like that. Even above him is the like button. Okay. Um, you know what? I take that back. I can't I can't I can't I can't It's important, but it's not that important. I apologize. I apologize to Mikey McCoy. Anyways guys, let's just get into it. A lot of you guys liked the podcast with my wife. A lot of you liked her voice. And that was always a thing. Guys would always be like, "Let me see your wife." And I'd be like, "Bro, where do you want to fight? Do you want to fight? We can fight in Texas. I love Arkansas. We can fight in Arkansas if you want." You know, they probably got mutual combat over there. We can do that. Um, but yeah, we have a lot of those episodes. I'm going to put together a playlist and show you guys because we did a lot of breakdowns together. One of the best ones in my opinion is my wife found out all the people who were in the Bilderberg group and then all the people who were in the world economic forum and uh that was very eye opening because it was a lot of the same players. It was very very interesting. So we will get into uh that when I have it. I will show it to you guys. We're going to be discussing the video call that uh [laughter] the video call where there was someone named Erica and she was talking to everybody and [laughter] I saw Baron making fun of that upspeak. I was like, "Oh man, I saw someone in his chat. They were like, I can't wait till coach does the upspeak." I'll do it. Of course, I'll do it. when in Rome, you know, when in Turning Point, do as Turning Point does. Uh, so let's jump into that. And then also, I'm just going to touch on what Candace touched on about being lied to. The way she like painted it was very interesting. And then we are going to jump over to Jeremy Boring at Turning Point. Uh, I know Jeremy's boring, but we do. Sorry, not at turning point at trigonometry. I I have a lot to say about those guys, all three of those guys, honestly. Um, don't know why Joe Rogan has befriended those guys in such a manner, but he has. All good. And then we're going to go over to some Baron content because I was listen I was working out cuz, you know, I'm jacked now. I don't know if you guys know. I'm really jacked now, okay? I've worked out three times since I got my gym. Okay, just putting it out there. Get ready. Get ready for Clone Callin to arrive. Okay. With the six-pack, with the six-pack and the buggy, the bucky hat. That's all I'm going to be wearing soon. Um, I was listening to Baron and he found this clip that nobody's seen before. I got to talk about that. And uh, I got to I got to give him some props for something that he said in his live. Then I'm going to touch on Dave Smith. Dave Smith says something very interesting about Tim P. Uh Tim Pool has this again. He goes on another wild rant, another just just unhinged rant. And then uh there's some released footage of Alex Petti that was uh I don't know, he's the young gentleman who lost his life at the hands of ICE. Um there's been some more footage released about him and I think this might be a Candace Owens moment of mine when I go into it. Uh it will upset some. it will uh it will liven up others. But aside from that, we have to jump into this beautiful picture with the mint as the halo. I mean, does it get any better than this? Like, does it get any better than this, ladies and gentlemen? Let me just go to the bottom so you guys can see the pure cinema this person put together here. Check this out. When things got serious, I grabbed the mint and ascended. Friendships. Friendship dissolved. Halo refreshed. Oh my gosh. Philadelphia. Mikey McCoy. Just the magnificent, beautiful Mikey McCoy. Halo. The mint as the halo is just perfect. I mean, who did this? How do I say this? Adika. Adika. I don't want to say it another way that I could say it. I'm going to say Adika. Uh, thank you so much for making this. I mean, it makes all of our days. I mean, you even put the American flag. I mean, this is just beautiful. Absolutely. Like this should be on the wall behind like forget Joe Rogan. That picture should be on the wall behind me. I might have to make that happen. We might have to make that happen. But also, I have to update you guys. We may have to buy a warehouse. Okay, this is got put together here. We may have to buy a warehouse. I'm just putting you guys on notice. Get ready for the little coach with a big personality. >> There it is. >> It's the new Coach Colin talking toy. Press the button on his back and hear his famous phrase. He even claps along just like on the show. And every Coach Colin comes with a box of cool, refreshing Philadelphia mints. The Coach Colin talking toy catch break. Get ready for the [laughter] Whoever made that. That is absolutely amazing. Just incredible. I want one of these. If I gave one of these to my kid, you know how happy they'd be? I don't know, guys. We got to We're going to have to buy a warehouse. I'm telling you, that's that's what we're doing here today. Uh I hope the mods are in the chat right now. Um I know you guys are in the chats. I see number three with the crown. Number one with the crown. Somebody said 200 oh 3,000 3,000 people watching. I I won't even write it down. Somebody said that they don't like the Dominican DJ joke. They were really upset by it. But you know what I have to say? 3,000 in the chat. I know Black Poppy. I I I I uh [laughter] Oh my gosh. It's okay. It's okay. Listen, they're jokes, man. Not every joke is going to hit every person. Not every joke people are going to love. But let's jump into this whole thing. Candace talking about how Erica like straight up lied to her face. Um and I think this is it. Candace saying this. This is all that there is now. The gloves are off. There's no more playing nice. There's no more her talking nicely about Erica. That time is done. And you know, I'd still like to be charitable to Erica, where we can. I just don't know where we can in what we've seen in this call. I mean, you could hear somebody smiling. You You ever notice that you're on the phone? You know, I used to work in uh like telecommunications and they would say they people can hear your smile over the phone. I'd be like, "Get out of here with that stuff." And then and then I heard this Zoom call and I was like, "Oh yeah, there's teeth. I I can hear teeth. I can hear them." And we were right. We were right, ladies and gentlemen. You can hear the teeth in the call. That's what I thought when I heard the audio. Now the video. Please hit that like button. It helps so much. Let's jump over and just hear Candace talking about this a little bit and then uh and then we're going to talk. We're gonna Is that fluff on my Come on. Come on. Get it. Get it. Can you help me? There you go. Can you help me? Where's my wife when I need her? That's what she does. That's her main job, removing fluff from my face. Anyway, let's jump in. After combining what we have learned throughout this investigation to be a fact and after now speaking with employees who were let go in this recent string of aggressive firings, employees that did nothing or were told weren't told that they did anything. They certainly were not the people that were leaking to me that I do believe firmly from the beginning that Erica was intimately involved in the PR messaging and the PR campaign at different times against me, sometimes against the entire role, but against me in particular. Just to recap why this is now suddenly important. No one's picking on her. Uh we have confirmed for a fact that she lied. She lied to my face actually regarding the Superman neck. She blamed that on Andrew Kovette. Said that he went rogue. That Dr. Lee Troder also went rogue, violated HIPPA, that they hopped on the phone and did this uh without her consent or knowledge. Then on top of that, Andrew then sends out a tweet. I'm I told you confirmed she doctor did not violate HIPPA. It was actually a three-way call. And the statement pertaining to Superman neck came from her. Andrew Kovette in that regard was doing Erica's bidding. He was taking a figurative bullet for her. She did not misspeak there. There's no way to look around it. She lied. She lied right to my face when she said that. She knew uh that HIPPA he didn't violate HIPPA. She lied in a doctor, a surgeon, and she knew that she was on that call. So, let's just say that clearly. We've also now confirmed that she was at the Hampton's retreat, the now infamous Hampton's retreat. She was present when BB Netanyahu called and that bothers me because I was out here catching a lot of heat for telling the truth. Now, we have two different versions of that story. Andrew Kovette said that BB offered to fund Turning Point to the next level. I have since confirmed what Andrew Kovette said with two people that are not related to Andrew Kovet at all. Erica, despite being at that dinner and confirming that she was there, does not remember that part. She says that there was not an offer that was made and that BB was calling about the letter that Charlie wrote him back in May. Andrew, uh, >> do you know how crazy that I didn't realize that at all when I heard Candace say that Erica was actually at this whole Hampton's thing? I don't know. I I I don't know if it's that important, but for me, I figured she was not there at all. And now she's saying I don't remember that part. That's a pretty big part to not remember. You know, somebody's casually like, "Hey, um, to your husband, do you want $150 million?" And then your husband goes, "Nah, I'm good. Thanks, man." That's a pretty big part to not remember that. Wouldn't that be his biggest donation ever? you just wouldn't remember the biggest donation. I guess you can call it a donation. I don't know what that is at that point. Um at that at that level, is that a donation anymore? I don't know. I guess so. Uh but you know, you wouldn't remember that. That would just kind of breeze past you. And also just towards what she's saying because basically uh you know, Erica and Andrew um they're just missing shmp. They're like Larry and Curly, you know? They're like Larry and Mo, you know? They're just missing their third stoogge, you know. That's why they brought Gary on board. They're like, "We need a third stoogge." And Gary was like, he started spinning on the ground, running on the ground. That was his audition. Uh, [laughter] but I wonder what kind of fights or conversations that they have behind the scenes when it comes to this kind of thing. Because wouldn't they wouldn't there be some kind of argument back and forth? Erica Erica's like, "Just say that the surgeon broke HIPPA." And he's like, "We can't say that." And she's like, "Just say it. Who cares? What are you talking about? Do what I'm telling you to do." I don't know. It seems It seems all very weird. I I don't even know. I think she threw him under the bus, but I think they're just working together. Like, I don't think Andrew is doing it uh reluctantly. I think he's just he's doing what a PR person would do. This is what PR people do. They make stuff up. Um they push whatever narrative they have to push and they try to make the company look as good as possible. So, let's keep going. >> Confirmed to me that Charlie described that summit as like an intervention was being staged over Israel. So, I find that to be interesting. Again, with everything that we now know, my assumption was she didn't weigh in weighed into things, didn't weigh into the water and didn't say anything about the debate that was happening because she was so overwhelmed and kind of catching her breath as a new CEO and chairman. I think now I have a different perspective on that. I'm not sure why she did not come out and say if she was capable of doing calls and sitting down doing meetings, come out and say like, "Yes, this this Hampton Summit did happen. Yes, BP did call." and try to work through with Andrew why they have different memories of whether or not he called to fund things to the next level. We have also confirmed that Erica and Andrew were working together on that Fort Wuka PR response. It was craziest attacks I've ever endured. Uh Alex Jones quite entertainingly is coming for me my whole life everything. But that PR response uh was confirmed that she was a part of that through this obscure YouTuber Paramount Tactical rather than going directly to me after we sat down. That to me seems like a pretty uh strong violation of a well-meaning conversation that I had with her for 4 hours. And I should also mention that that was the same YouTuber despite, you know, also going into Mitch's entire past, Mitch Knows past. But after calling for a ceasefire and saying, "Let us sit down and talk," they welcomed Paramount Tactical onto Charlie Kirk's podcast show while I was in this hotel room to debunk me. I had no idea it was happening. And then that's I think was the beginning of when it clicked to me seeing that him being caught live, Andrew Kobat live messaging something from Erica after she told me that they were disappointed in Andrew that he wasn't going to be involved in PR anymore. That's when I realized that I was being lied to, that she was making moves behind the scenes. And the answer that we will likely never get to add one more point here is whether Andrew was lying uh or Erica was confused. And I would like to say that I don't believe Andrew was lying. I believe Andrew was telling me the truth when he said that when he stepped off of the plane in Probo on September 10th, he basically collapsed into Erica's arms crying on the tarmac because >> it's very interesting, man. You know, uh yeah, I'm kind of on the page with her there. I don't know if Andrew was lying. I mean, here the thing, you know, PR people, I mean, somebody even said it in the chat, you know, PR people should know about gaslighting. I mean, they make stuff up. If something happens, they do damage control. That's what they are. They're really damage control people. It shouldn't even be called PR. It should be called DC. It's damage control all day. That's what it is. They're just trying to control the situation and make the company look pristine. And if they get thrown under the bus, that's it. But what's really interesting is that she says that Erica said in the meeting that they had that she was disappointed in Andrew. [laughter] If you're going to throw someone under the bus, you throw them under the wheels. You know what I mean? You don't throw them in the middle of the bus so they can go, "No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no." You find that big old wheel and you just say, "Get in there." That's what you do. If you're going to do it, you do it right. So, I can't falter for that. I cannot falter for that. That's what you got to do sometimes. You gota gota throw somebody directly under the wheels, you know? I mean, I'm very disappoint just I'm very disappointed in him. You know, you know, some people have said that they think she's like a pathological liar, and I was against that, and I I feel like I still am, but I'm coming around. I'm I'm coming around. That's a very odd thing to do. Like, you know that Candace talks to him. You You know what I mean? I always find that weird when you have a friend, right? And you usually get rid of this friend, but you have a friend and they're making something up about someone else who they know that you can talk to. You know, you they know you have their number and you can call them anytime and they still make up the thing. I always find those people fascinating. Just fascinate. It's just so ballsy. It's just a crazy amount of ball. Very big. like so big. You should probably get those things checked out and make sure there's not tumors on those things. I mean, that's how big those balls have to be to do something like that. It's crazy. Absolutely crazy. And uh yeah, I don't I don't think I don't think Andrew was lying. I think Andrew was doing what he was supposed to do. And you know, he you know, we can say what we want, but you know, he was with Charlie all the time. They did get along quite well. You know, they laughed together. Do I think he hated Charlie behind the scenes? I don't think so. I think they were friends. So, it's like you're now your your friend's gone and your his wife's there. You're like, "Okay, I'm going to do right by his wife. I'm going to do what I tried to do with him with her. That's what I'm going to do." And [laughter] then and then she's a nightmare. Oh, and then she's a nightmare, you know? Just meet you on the tarmac. Oh, I have to get to the What? What are you What are you doing here? Hi, Andrew. What's up? Pyrochnics on the tarmac. Hey, Andrew. How you doing? You okay? Come on. Bring it in. Bring it in. We'll be all right. We'll be all right, big guy. Let's head over. Okay. Do you want to eat first? Do you want to eat first before we go? [laughter] I'm kidding. She wouldn't do that. She wouldn't do that. She's a nice lady. >> He had all this pent up emotion. Had this big plane. Everyone was messaging him about Charlie asking for his status. He didn't know what was going on. And the impression that I got was that Andrew was on that plane alone. But then we were later told that Andrew was accompanied by his wife. But Erica during our face toface meeting had no recollection of his wife stepping off of the plane. When I asked, I said, "Was he with his wife?" She was unable to answer that question as to whether or not Andrew flew in with his wife to Provo. How is that possible? Is Andrew lying about that or is is Erica misremembering? What we know thereafter is that when they arrived at the hospital after waiting for an hour, if Andrew was to believed, then she waited for an hour on the tarmac for Andrew's flight to land. They arrived at the hospital and went in through separate entrances. Uh Andrew went through the front main entrance, a main entrance where there were other TPUSA staff there, people that were there on that day, and Erica went in through a back or side entrance. These are the facts, okay? If they disturb you, then you should know that you are not alone. The world obviously melted down yesterday when we played the corporatewide call hosted by Erica to Turning Point employees following the memorial event. The overwhelming consensus, the human response to that is that you feel disturbed when you listen to it. Spiritually disturbed by the emotion of it, the happiness uh speaking about merchandise being sold, hats being sold. Again, this is not a sales call. This is >> What up, guys? What up, guys? We're here. Y'all see how many hats we sold? What's going on? Y'all see all those hats? Let me tell you something. Ain't nobody getting those hats. Huh? Huh? High five through the screen, y'all. High five through the screen, y'all. She didn't do that. She didn't do that. Come on. She wouldn't do that. But, you know, I just find that very interesting. You know, lie to her face um when they're actually in a meeting together. And I I don't know. I don't know why you would do that, right? Somebody some people go with the whole pathological thing. I don't you a part of me feels like it seems like a person who's kind of sc I've brought this up before. A person who's scrambling because something could happen to them. So, they're just making up whatever they got to make up. I like I I don't know. I like that's it could be that, right? We have had the notion that Andrew's life could be in danger for everything that he knew because he knew everything Charlie did, right? Which is why he didn't tell anybody about the message and he he didn't say certain things. He didn't want it to get out the group chat message. He just wanted it to go to the authorities. He didn't want it to go into the public and be known as the person that was outing things. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. That's as charitable as I can get is that, you know, BB uh somebody said it in the in the chat here. Excellent. By the way, BB uh Mint Mint Yahoo. I mean, that's just great. That's just fantastic. Thank you so much for that. Uh I'm going to be using that later. Um, who knows? You know, you get that offer because here's the thing. I brought this up weeks ago. The offer that Charlie supposedly allegedly because Erica doesn't remember. Andrew does, but Erica doesn't. But then Andrew also said that's not true, but he told Candace that it is. It's like it's just such a tangled web. That's what they mean when they say tangled web, you know. Um, that offer of $150 million supposedly, allegedly, whatever, says no. Charlie says no. But then after he passes, they make that same amount of money and more. I don't know. It's kind of like the Dave Chappelle thing. He walks away from $50 million for years, then goes all a sudden Netflix and a whole bunch of things happen and then he makes the $50 million and then some. It's very weird the way that happens. Um I'm not I'm not comparing Dave Chappelle to Erica. They're they're a little different. A touch different. Uh, somebody says here, "Erica forgave Charlie's assa, uh, alleged assassin. Uh, immediately she fired those who she feared don't like her." Think about the kind of person that does this. It's very Yeah, I mean, it's true, right? Uh, and then Sam Parker, Sam Parker said, uh, what Erica Kirk promised to Candace Owens, a followup to resolve Erica's failed first Wuka alibi attempt. what Erica delivered. Alibi silence, a cease and desist letter to Candace, and a motion to hurry up Tyler Robinson's trial. Who does who do you uh how sorry, how do you interpret Erica's response? Something to think about. You know, you're lying to Candace to her face. You're throwing Andrew under the bus. Uh you know, it it it re it could be someone who's just a constant liar. We're at 6,000. We're at 6,000. DJ, I know Black Poppy. Anyway, let's uh [laughter] the the So ridiculous. Someone said they don't like that joke. Hey, let me tell you something. You don't like a joke and you tell me via DM? Oh, it we double We double it. We double it. Okay. I'm the youngest sibling in my family. Do you know how annoying I can get? Okay, I'm the baby of the family. Annoying people is it's the thing that I've been doing since I was a baby. Okay, just keep that in mind. Okay. Uh [laughter] let's get into the phone call. You know, of course, the narrative. This is Candace listening to the phone [laughter] call. Oh my god. Uh so funny. Um, this is the narrative that's going to start being pushed. Of course, I mean, it immediately started on X as soon as Candace went live with this information. Candace literally doesn't understand how grief works. Oh, she doesn't get it. You know, that's that's the thing that's going forward. People are like, "All I saw was leadership. I saw leadership. I saw CEO." It's it's it's it it's exactly the same type of thing where you're watching something and they're telling you not to believe their eyes just like Biden. You know, you were watching Biden, you're like, "He fell up nine stairs." And they're like, "Yeah, [laughter] that's what happens when you're extremely fit. He called Putin. He called Zalinsky Putin." Yeah, that's what you do when you're just like so smart and you have so many thoughts running through your head. That's what happens. And you're just like, "Wait, what? That's what my grandfather does. He's in a home." And they're like, "Yeah, he's probably in a genius home. Am I right?" And you're like, "What is happening right now?" Well, that's the narrative that's starting to be pushed in regards to Erica and this call. You know, people like this are even saying, you know, Candace Owens, it backfired. I still don't get why I'm supposed to be upset. Erica's stepping up as a leader and reassuring her employees that they won't be fired in hard times. Well, 40 of them will, but not all of them. Uh, this makes me this is and see this is the type of narrative that's being pushed. This makes me respect her even more. What are you sure? That's that's the type of narrative that's starting to be pushed about this whole thing. And just to show what Candace Owens was talking about, a lot of people don't know. Yes, that is the man himself. Can we make that bigger? That is the man himself. That is him right there. Same sunglasses. So, you can see him right there. Uh, Terry, I don't know. You know, Franworth, Fran, is that how you say it? Franworth. That is him right there. Um, again, 5 days after Charlie pass, he's in there doing his thing. Uh, probably just on the search for SD cards in the building. He's just like, you know, he's scouring the building, you know, just opening up cameras, you know, being places he's not supposed to be, just contaminating things, you know, just doing doing what he does best. But that is him. And that was a good catch by Candace. A lot of people started looking as soon as she said that. And uh there he is. There he is. That's a hundred. And listen, room for error. That could be, you know, you could say, "Oh, no, that's just a guy." It looks like the exact same glasses to me. It looks like the same haircut. It looks like the same build. It looks like the guy to me, you know. So, in case anybody's like, "Hey, I don't think that's him." Okay. But, uh, to me, that looks exactly like him. Now, let's get into this call. Ladies and gentlemen, this is the beginning of the call. Never listen listen. Never seen her that happy before, you know? I mean, she looks as happy as Charlie did when he was talking with Candace. You know what I mean? I mean, some real happiness. A lot of people speculate that these rings are like connected to some Masonic thing. I don't know if they are. Uh, one of them is a G. I don't know what the G stands for. I have no idea. But let's get into this. >> There you go. >> Oh, look at all the thumbs up. Look how cute that is. Sorry, this is a little bit more informal than probably Charlie would be reacting. How sweet. >> I didn't know they could do that. I hate Zoom. I never like Zoom. Sorry, you guys. Um, I just wanted to say first and foremost, um, my heart obviously is broken for you guys as much as it is for our family. you guys lost not only a boss but someone that you looked up to, someone that you uh believed in his mission that you also um that you loved um you loved listening to his show, you loved um hearing his wisdom on things. I'm sure some of you have also had very personal moments of where you sat down and um >> so that's the beginning just so you have that in its full context. You know, just that right there, the happiness um that we see, I I can't get it off my mind. Someone in the chat just said, "Erica, Erica equals I know human papy." I mean, just so good. You heard my joke. You heard what we were talking about. You put them both together. Made your own joke. Put it in the chat. It was It was held for some reason. I let that thing fly so everybody can see it. I think that's absolutely amazing. 7,000 in the chat. Thank you guys so much. Please hit that like button. It helps tremendously. Tremendously. It helps so much. Um let's start going into the call. Uh and then I'm going to talk about you know often. Um you know again to explain so many people always are asking to explain. There's Mortal Kombat Ultra that ran for a a number of years decades in fact. It ran for decades and they did a lot of wild things and then as they kind of dismantled it, which you know there's really no proof that they did, but there is a 1977 Senate hearing where they did discuss Mortal Kombat Ultra and what it was turning into or the offshoots that it is that it was spawning at the time. And one of those things was called often. Uh there was a few other ones, but often stood out to me the most because if you look in Hollywood politics, you see the symbolism. You see the weird um you know, I'm not even going to say satanic. I I'll say occultist. You see the occultist vibe throughout Hollywood. You see it in politics. You see weird ritual seance type things. You see it in the concerts. You see it in the rallies. So when I look at things, I don't focus on all the offshoots. I don't even focus on ultra all that much. Uh I look at often as the thing that's being pushed the most because that is the thing that will penetrate your subconscious without you having to go through any wild uh procedures of any sort. Uh it could be done often when you look into often it could be done with a phone. It can be done by just you embracing your political side. It could be done by you just embracing an artist or a various artist and listening to everything they say. It's really focused on getting into your subconscious and altering consciousness not through any type of substance but through your whole belief system. That's why I focus on often and that's why I'm going to bring that up while we uh watch this call because I think it runs rampant through this call. >> The word happy uh in the context of Charlie and how he must be feeling in h in heaven. I'm going to let this play out for five minutes straight and there is no context needed other than this is 5 and a half days after her husband was publicly assassinated and yes in the background that is Terrell Farnsworth the guy who took down the cameras but we're going to see we are going to see some grief so I'm going to allow you guys to watch this for 5 minutes >> had private conversations with him I want you all to hold on to those and I want you all to remember those so deeply I want you to journal about them I want you to be able to tell your kids about Um, I want you to put those in your heart as why you're why you're still here with with the Turning Point USA because that's what we want. And like I said to our small group after whatever day that was that I did the thing on TV, my days are still rounded Friday. Um, I told the team, I said, "Turning point USA will continue like my husband always wanted." >> So, I'm going to stop it right there because you know what does that sound like? what we're hearing at that point. We're hearing somebody say, "You've had personal conversations. She wants them to journal them." So, write them down. Okay? Keep them close to her heart. Tell their kids about them. What else do people do that type of thing with? They do that with scripture. They do that with religious scripture. So, she is now comparing Charlie and the conversations people have had personally with him and she's trying to um I guess marry that with some kind of scripture. You should be writing this down. You should be keeping this close to your heart. You should always remember this and let this fuel you as you stay a part of the Turning Point family. Right? That's why people are talking about how weird this whole call seems. Right? That's what the people who are saying this is leadership. This is this is why that narrative is silly. Um and listen 100% easy to confuse because that's the point. You're supposed to confuse it with leadership. You're supposed to confuse it with something good because it's meant to go into your mind into your subconscious. Right? Again, imagine doing that. Imagine having a personal conversation with somebody. You write it all down and then you tell your kids about it. I mean, I don't know, man. It's just that that right there in Project often, what they talk about is is symbolic belief manipulation. That is one of the things that is one of the core I don't want to say pillars, core tenants. That is one of the things that they focus on, right? And a lot of people know about this stuff. Now, am I saying that Erica is some kind of expert in psychological warfare? I'm not saying that. I'm just saying that I know about this project. I know what it entails and I know I'm seeing it here. That's all I'm saying. Um, not to say like, is she doing it per maybe she's just I don't know. She has these, you know, high up parents. Maybe that's just a natural thing when your family is associated with defense and, you know, the defense department and homeland security. Maybe that's just a natural thing that you grow up with, you know, like my mom was funny, you know, that maybe it's just a natural thing you grow up with, just taking people and manipulating them. Some people learn to be funny from their parents. Some people learn things like that, you know. Everybody learns something different from their parents. You know, let's keep going. >> And it'll be bigger than ever. And we're going to honor him by doing that. We're going to stay humble. Um we're going to work hard because that's what he would want. And uh we're going to just make it grow and we're going to keep our eyes fixed on heaven. And you know, like even Stacy said, he's going to he's going to find ways to speak to us and he's going to speak to you in different ways. Every person's going to be different, but you'll get little moments where you're like, "Okay, Charlie, I see you." It might be here on campus. Uh it might be in quiet moments of the night, but he's here and he's more alive than ever, and he is um he's going to guide us. Um, then we just have to remain humble. But again, what I told the team was >> that right there. Okay. Some people say when you do that, you're trying to like muster up tears. I don't know if that's true. Um, because we've never really seen any tears from her. Um, anyway, no, what she just said there, he's going there's going to be times where he's going to speak to you. Again, what does that sound like? He's going to speak to you. It may be at night while you're by yourself. It may be at other moments, but he is going there are going to be moments when you can feel him speaking to you. What does that sound like? I'm in a Christian men's group, okay? I have people talking about this all the time and they ain't talking about Charlie, okay? They're usually talking about Jesus. They're talking about God. That's what this is the is this it's it's he they are pairing him with that with with Jesus with a Messiah of sorts. I did a whole episode on this of why they're doing this and and and what it causes in people. Um it causes you to really you know aside from everything it causes you to dig your feet deeper in the sand for their cause. That's what it causes you to do. Um, but yeah, he's going to be guiding her or he's going to be guiding all of us. He's going to be speaking to all of us. He will be there. You will feel him. It's I'm telling you, man, it's it's a it's a major tactic. And again, maybe she doesn't know. Maybe she doesn't know. Maybe she just does it naturally. Some people are natural. You know, Baron said, "I'm a natural at going live." You know, maybe she's just a natural at this. I don't know. I don't know. We're all natural in different things, you know. Terrible thing to be natural at though, I guess. I don't know. Could be good. Especially if you end up running a company worth like $350 million. I know. But at what price? You know, let's keep going. I will fight like hell to make sure that all of you have a job here. I don't want anyone to think the job's in jeopardy because your family, if you want to, if you choose to leave, that's different. I never will. And I promise you, I will make sure that I never allow a point to where you have to leave because we cannot financially afford you. Um, and that is um that is a progress. I want our family to stay together. um the best of care. Obviously circumstances, you know, things can there's unforeseen things that might pop up here and there that we can't see in the future, but for right now, the way things are, I would like to remain. They are status quo, and I think that's the best thing to do. Uh and everything else we can worry about later. Um but I just want to let you know that you guys are all very loved. I'm very proud of you. Like Charlie would be um I mean I think Charlie's just I'm trying not to say that he would be he's obviously celebrating in heaven uh amongst many things, but he's so proud of all of you and he's so proud of all of you for keeping this mission alive and he knows that you can do it. That's why you're hired. And he knows that you will be able to carry the torch and he knows that you're going to do a great job and you're going to be able to even though days are going to be tough. Honestly, the nights are the hardest. Mornings are pretty rough, too. But once you're But just what I've noticed these past several days is if I didn't have the family, the turning point USA family with me, all of you, I [snorts] would be a disaster. I mean, I would be in fetal position 24/7. the fact that we have a continued mission to look forward to and we have our family, it's everything. And some of you, this is your chosen funeral. And um just rely and lean on each other. That's huge. Leaning on each other is huge because all of you were together prior to this and we'll be together after this. minutes and we everything and I told Justice it's it's going to be something where everything before September 10th any email you were working on any project you were working on is it's not that it's irrelevant now it's just things have changed obviously um and the mission has gotten deeper and the mission will grow deeper but like I just want all of you to know we will be wise stewards we will be um vigilant we will be humble um and I just want you to know that again I'm with you. I'm here. I'm not going anywhere. Um, and we're going to make sure that we honor my husband so well, that this whole world knows what his his vision was and will be. And [snorts] it's just I feel so blessed, >> man. [sighs and gasps] Interesting interesting stuff. Interesting stuff. you know, um, there was a clause. Okay, a lot of people don't know. 8,000 in the chat. 8,000 in the chat. Give it up for DJ. I know Black Poy. It's all my wife hears. That's all my wife hears in the other room. She's like, "What the what's going on?" Um, there was a clause. Okay. when she said that everybody's gonna get their keep their job and you know the clause was yeah if you listen to Candace Owens you're getting fired she didn't say it it's kind of in the fine print but that was definitely just in the small writing you had to look close when she said it you didn't see it on the screen it was very very small writing that if you listen to Candace Owens you're 100% getting fired we're going to come to your house and take your computer your work computer of course um and if you don't let us in. We're going to force our way in. You know, that's which didn't happen. Which didn't happen. You know, uh that was the clause though. So, for those of you that decided to listen to Candace Owens, you're done. You're done. Okay? Just putting it out there. You're finished. Uh we're very sorry you chose to do that. We We're not going to tell you how we found your watch history on YouTube, but we did and we saw it. So, we got to let you go. Sorry. We're going in a different direction, [laughter] man. Man. Man, the whole different direction thing. I really don't like that because I really don't listen. If you have to work, everybody has to work. When I was working, the jobs that I was working, I despised people doing stuff like that, you know, because you know what's at stake. You know, the person goes home and they're worried and they have no money and now they have to find a job and there's bills. And I always thought to myself like, it's crazy that people just do that to other people. I know it's business. You have to, you know, you got to do what you got to do in business. And sometimes you got to do what you're told if you're supposed to fire somebody, but man oh man, what what it can do to people is just wild. So, we're over here. We're going to jump over here. Is this the end of this one? Let's see. >> Then on Earth, >> look at Candace. Candace is done. Candace is done. She's not even looking at the screen. [laughter] [gasps] Candace is not even looking at the screen. Let's keep going with the call. There's more to it, of course. >> And we will um do our best to continue to make Turning Point USA the bohemoth that he wanted it to be this massive thing. And it is. It is. And that's why we have to stay humble. But um you know, I just want you guys to stay in prayer. And if if you guys do need anything, please reach out to whoever you know to reach out to. Um and pray with one another. Be there with one another. Be soft with on one another. Everyone grieavves differently. So if someone's acting weird, don't read into that. Uh weddings and funerals bring out the weirdest side on people. Just anyone who's been married knows that. Um so don't read into that. Just love on each other. And if there's anything or anyone who tries to divide your team or you or that's just the enemy and just rebuke it and know that there was a bigger mission at hand and um again you guys are all very loved and I feel very honored and um I'm grateful for all of you. So I just wanted to take some time to hop on and share with you my condolences. Um I wish I could help all of you but again the fact that um there's a lot of women in the office on today. fact that a lot of you guys are here in office that's what he would like the mission he doesn't want you to just be sitting on the couch alone in your room he wants you to obviously I mean we will all mourn but he would want you to build and so that's what we'll do we'll have a sword in one hand and we'll have a healing build okay I love you all um deep breaths uh I just want to share this with you all I asked her when we were on the tour I said, "I don't know how to get through this." And she said, "You know, when you're on an airplane," and some of you have kids will really relate to this. Others that don't, you've been on a plane with kids, so you can also relate to this. She said, "When you're on an airplane and you're 15 minutes before landing and the kids are going crazy and you have 15 minutes left on the plane and they're throwing their toys and they're screaming and you're thinking to yourself, am I going to make it through these next 15 minutes?" And then the plane lands and Usha said, "You're going to make it through those next 15 minutes." And then there was 15 minutes of so I just want to share that with you because it was a very private moment. Um, but it gave me it gave me some peace to know that we can just do this for 10 minutes at a time. So if that means at work when you're feeling a little bit stop, take those 15 minutes and you'll be okay. We're all going to be okay. Like I love you guys. She's not crying. Isn't that weird? You know, I felt bad calling it out when when when everybody was first uh calling it out, right? I mean, a lot of you guys were calling it out way before me or Candace was you. Way before you guys were right away. Some people were just like right away like, "No, no, this is a no." This lady, um, there's no tears. There's no tears. I don't know. It's pretty weird, you know, like a dry tissue. There's no tears. It's very weird. I don't know. >> Um, I have a great meeting. Is there anything else to do? You guys are loved. Love this little film. >> You know what's interesting? She's like, "Is there anything else you guys need to the other person who's there?" Somebody said her name in the chat. Is it Susan? Is it Susan her name? Someone said her name. The people are framing her to be a um a handler of sorts. Um I don't know if that's true cuz I don't even know what her name is. So, I I couldn't possibly tell you guys that she's a handler, but somebody was saying her name. I think her name's Susan. So, this person's in the background while she's talking and kind of being like, you know, like Erica has to check and see, is there anything else? You know, this it kind and it also it kind of speaks towards I know we're looking at the manipulation aspect. There's also the aspect of her not being a person who is actually running things. Stacy, thank you, Stacy. Yes, I'm seeing it. Stacy Sheridan. Yes, that person. So, that person's in the background. That's who she's talking to there. That there's nobody. There's no other person. It could be. That person was with her in the car. That person always seems to be right next to her. Um, and you know, I I can't help but think it could be like a Get Out thing. You know, you remember like the movie Get Out, that lady would have the coffee cup and she'd be like, and then she'd go ding ding ding and then the black guy be like, I feel like it's that kind of situation. I really do. I really do. I think it's I think it's that type of thing. But, uh, let's keep going here. Haha, says in the caption there, >> so sweet. God bless you all. >> Thank you guys. >> I mean, I don't really know what to say. I just I wanted to share that with you. I wanted to share that with you because I fully side with the employees um what they have lived through everything that's happened to have them admit that they work 20our days to see how they were manipulated into doing that and then having the carpet pulled under their feet and told goodbye and god forbid you want to speak out about what you've lived through then you're you're somehow like it's a cult that that's a cult to be clear that's just a cult. You're with us or you're against us. And these people were not against them. They were loyal employees. Okay, they were loyal employees and they said that they felt like they were being emotionally manipulated to think that they had to just work harder even beyond the 20-hour days they're working during the weekday. They were then asked to come in on the weekend to pack t-shirts because it's what Charlie would want. And I kept picking up on that beyond these calls. I kept saying, why does it feel like they're using the ghost of Charlie to sort of guilt people into doing things like this is what Charlie would want. He'd want your money. This is what Charlie would want. He would want your your kids' college fund. This is what Charlie would want. He wants grandma's will. This is what Charlie's uh dancing. He's dancing in heaven. He is I I'm not I don't want to say the word happy. Maybe he's not happy. He just got assassinated. Maybe he's not happy that he's never going to see his children again or put into bed, but he is dancing unhappily or something. What? What? >> See, that's the thing. That's why I bring up often so often because that is the reason why Candace is asking why is that happening? Why are people doing that? Well, that's why because they're trying to connect their movement and what they need from their workers, right? And the same thing happens in politics as well, right? Except except, you know, where where I just said workers, you would say voters, right? They try to ignite you through situations, through certain situations. um and really rile you up. You know, that's why, and it's funny because Candace called this out years ago. She was like, "Look, every four years they do something that has to do with uh black versus white." She's like, "Every four years," she's like, "If you watch closely, as soon as election time comes, things start happening. Weird things start happening that rile up both sides because that's what they're looking for. They're looking for people to really dig their heel, dig their feet into the sand." So they say, "This is my side and I'm I'm ready to go. I'm here. Use me. Use me. I'm a vessel now. Come on. Let's go." That's the type of thing that they're constantly doing. And that's what Turning Point, in my opinion, it seems like that's what they're doing with their workers there. If you bring up Charlie all the time, and you know, again, this is soon uh ju just after he passed away. So yeah, you're going to bring Charlie up a bit. But as you bring him up and you connect him to work, you connect him to what you're doing, you connect him to to listening closely, you say, "Write down all the personal conversations you had with him." Tell your kids and your family about those conversations. They are trying to ignite some kind of Messiah in him. And what do people do with a Messiah? They follow them closely. They get to a point where they're willing to do anything, work any amount of time. Which is why that lady who got fired was like, "I've worked 80our weeks." What? Why? I mean, I I get it. You know, sometimes you work 80our weeks. I mean, sometimes I work 80 hours. I understand. But still, it's a wild thing to do. And the reason that they were able to do it is because this crazy thing happened and then all of a sudden they had to they felt like they had to do it. That's what that was the whole thing Candace is talking about when she was like, "Oh, you can take paid leave. Look into that. You can take leave, but we're full steam ahead." That's the thing. It's like, I'm his wife. I should be down bad worse than anybody. But hey, listen. I'm good, but if you're not, go ahead. Right. I remember I remember I brought it up yesterday. It was like when my dad passed away. They're like, "Oh, take as much time as you need." But what they really meant was like three days. Oh, take as much time as you need, but if it's like more than 5 days, we have to replace you. You know what I mean? It's that type of thing. So, you feel like, "Oh, I guess I can do this, but I actually can't. So, you're just saying a thing to make me feel like you're there with me, like your family, but in actuality, you're not, and this is still just a work relationship. I'm just being tricked. You know what I mean? I don't know. I don't know. That's just me. I'm a little biased when it comes to uh I've had bad work experiences, as you can tell. You know, um I'm sure you can tell by the stories I'm telling you here. But, uh let's jump into the last clip right here. They're trying to control you and it's very sinister and I I could not stay silent with them trying to pull that move on Brett Cooper. Like I was I'm good. Okay. My kids will be proud of me one day. I'm good. Jeanie Thompson writes, "Erica kept referring to Charlie as still directing Turning Point USA rather than acknowledging that Turning Point USA is an organization established and led by God. That is a cult." Yes, I agree with you. It's very something about all of it, even keeping the mic and putting it in a cage and setting up his dinner at a fundraiser. There's something that feels like a seance to me. And we couldn't control him uh when he was alive, but we can control him now that he's dead and we can control you and tell you what you're what he would have wanted. How can you debate that? This is what he would want. He's dancing in heaven. How can you debate that? And if you do debate that, well, sorry, guys, cuz now his his his widow is saying that. So, how dare you? That there's something about that that I really don't like. And that something is all of it. I like none of it, actually. Uh, Ms. Mint Julip writes, "Keep it going, team Candace. Take it to the >> So, that right there. Yeah, they're trying to control you." Um, you know, it's funny because she says that about Charlie and that's what Daily Wire is doing with her as they use her. All they have is her p her former show, but they're using that as a form of saying, you know, you may be, you know, not she's not actually gone, but you may be gone to us here at Daily Wire, but we still own this spirit of you, this avatar of you, and we're going to make it move around. We're going to do the whole dance, and you're going to do what we say in this little shape. You're It's still going to post. is still going to show things and these things that it's going to show is actually gonna mock you, you know. Um, so they're doing the same thing with Candace in in a way that they can. Now with Charlie, they can do it way more. And yes, 9,000 in the chat 100%. Hi, no black puppy. Uh, [laughter] I'm I'm laughing like Erica over here. My bad. I'm sorry, guys. I'm I'm laughing like Erica over here. My My bad. My bad. Just happy as clams, you know what I mean? Um [laughter] it's uh so yeah. Yeah, they're doing that with Charlie in a really big way. In a really really big way. And they have the ability to. They have his wife. They have his friends. Um they're the people who get to say this is how he felt. You know, we we play the Megan Kelly interview. We play the interview with Ben Ben Shapiro. We show the group texts that he released, what he was doing, what he was shifting to. It was clearly obvious, but because they were so close, they're able to just say, "No, that's all nonsense. That's all nonsense." I mean, even the group chat, Josh Hammer was like, "He was joking. He was joking. Sorry." It's like, you know, they do have him in a weird in a weird sense. And I do think that there is a spirit seance aspect to it. I really do. Um they kind of because a lot of times in the occult and I've done many videos on this they do try to summon they summon things from this unseen realm right and it's usually things of darkness but you could unknowingly tie yourself to something that's dark uh through the symbolic belief manipulation and you can feel like that thing is absolutely absolutely amazing. You can feel like it's doing great things in your life. It may even produce good material and finance in your life, but it's actually something dark that you've connected yourself to. Um, and these people, these people are real and they really do summon things. That is a real thing. A lot of people think it's hocus pocus and it's nonsense and it's just what they believe, but it's not just what they believe. It's actually what they do. They practice this and there have been real results throughout history when people do this kind of thing. So, are they doing that with Charlie right now? In a sense, I think so. I mean, Candace even brought it up. The microphone in a cage, right? The last thing that he touched. This is very a cult type of thing. Set up the the place where he passed away. Set that up. Put his picture in the center. Put the last thing he touched in a in a in a cage, in a box. Take his chair of his podcast. Allow no one else to sit in that chair. Leave that chair present so everyone can see. These are these are things you know suspicion, right? Um there's a whole suspicion when someone passes away, they pass away in a house or you know some people just do it in general when one of their loved ones pass away that you cover all the mirrors in a house because some people believe if the person's walking around in the afterlife cuz they're transitioning and they haven't fully accepted it. They may see a mirror and get like get sucked into that mirror. Right? It sounds silly, but there are a there is a element of a cult to that, right? And they do it because they want to make sure that person goes up to heaven. They want to make sure they ascend like Mikey McCoy and not just stay in this material world as a disembodied spirit. Um, and I know, I know we're getting a little deep there, a little weird there. It's going to get weird. It's going to get weird from time to time, guys. Um, Masonic ritual. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. It's like it's like a Masonic ritual. It really really is. What happened with him? And again, it's one of those things where it's like, well, prove it. Well, it's like you can only prove it through the symbolism. You know, when they say Tyler Robinson 33 hours, we caught him in 33 hours. It wasn't even 33 hours. It was like 35 or something like that, but they round it down to 33. Okay. Or it's 32 and they round it up to 30. Like, why? That's weird. you know, I see you in Vajala. Like all these things are little clues, right? And then when you get into, you know, if you want to start getting into hand symbols, you want to start getting into um more of numerology and things of that nature, these are all things that they use. They don't just outright say these things, but they show you. Again, bringing up the tent, the tent is a big way of showing you, right? That's a really big way of showing you the way that they handled his memorial, right? That was a big way of showing you. There was a rapper XXX and Tacion who was evil himself. Okay. Someone said, "I'm becoming the goat." No, goats get sacrificed. That's why they call people the goat. That's why they call people in Hollywood the goats because the goats get sacrificed. The lambs are protected by God. Don't forget that. Um, there was a rapper XXNion. He even said that he was demonic. He was a very dark kid. But when he had his memorial, it was wild. It was crazy. There was thousands of people. But the thing that they were centered around was him, his body. That's people came to see just to look and get the closure that he's gone. That was the focus. Now, as dark as that kid and his life and may have been, if you don't know him, you can look him up. He's he's he's passed away now. I think he passed away at like 20 years old. He was a musical genius. He was becoming a musical genius, I should say. Um he was going to be right up there with the best of them. He could sing. He could do everything. Um, but the focus was his body. If you look at Charlie's memorial, the focus was not the body. Focus was everything else. It was a lot of pyrochnics, right? As everybody knows, it was a lot of grandiose imagery. It was a lot of big names. I always bring it up because it was the most crazy thing. There was a guy who was carrying a cross in a suit. I I forget who this guy was, but he wasn't even dragging the cross. The cross had wheels at the bottom, so he's just moving this cross along. It's like so anti what it's supposed to represent when you do it like that. You know what I mean? But look at the focus. The focus was something else completely. It was barely him. I don't know. So, you really got to look at that, right? When you're talking about numerology and whatnot. Uh, just to jump into this really quick. So, Candace did talk about Jeremy Boring. I I just have to say, and I'll and I'll make this quick. When it comes to these guys, I don't know how you feel about these guys. Some people like these guys. 33 is a dog whistle. Yes, it certainly is. 100%. Um, yeah, that's Yeah, well said. Yes, 33 is like a dog whistle. When you hear that, it's like when we hear it, we go, "Oh, what's going on?" You know something? Maybe I'll show it to you guys at the end in regards to that number. Oh man. You know, you know what happened with the ICE agent with the first person where the car kind of hit him and everything? It's wild. It was like on 33rd Street and this 33 and the house behind him was 33 and it it was it was crazy how much it really makes you think about that whole thing more. I I'll I'll Someone remind me. Let me just write this down. Oh, there. I'll just write it down like this so I remember. Put a star on this thing. Okay, I'll remember. It's really crazy. But when we talk about Jeremy Boring, right, there is no reason for this guy to be on this podcast. Oh, there's no reason for this guy here to be on this podcast with these two. There's no reason other than he's being reignited. His brand is being reactivated so he can go at Candace Owens. That's exactly what we're seeing here. 100%. That is what we're seeing. That's why he's there. There's no other reason for it. He's not interesting. He's not fun to talk to. He's not a good He's not a good storyteller, right? He's not influential, right? The only thing he has is that he can say hiring Candace Owens was the greatest mistake he's ever made in his life. That's basically what he has to say, right? And he talks about her, we we saw the episode, he talks about her being like nuclear energy and, you know, he talks about, you know, she could destroy things or she could be used for good. She's using what she's doing for evil, etc., etc. He starts talking about corn cornography. He starts comparing her to that, which is just wild. But again, that's part of the manipulation that goes on. It's like, let us align this person who we're trying to make seem terrible, let's align them with the worst of what society has to offer, right? That's why when he says Candace Owens is very talented, they keep a straight face. But when he compares her to cornography, all of a sudden they start laughing. They're smiling. They agree with that. You know, I watch a lot of Joe Rogan, as a lot of you know, and anytime these guys were on, I was always like, "This is a great episode." But these guys have really shown themselves. They've shown themselves quicker than Ben Shapiro, but in the same way, in my opinion. I know some people like uh Constantine, is that his name? Constantine. Kissing. Uh Francis here. Uh I know a lot of people like these guys. I think they've shown themselves. I think they're just like Ben Shapiro. Um they will act like everything is just impartial and we're just having discussions here. But in reality, um, they have a very stiff agenda and they have a very hardcore loyalty to another place other than their country, which would be the UK for these guys. They're more loyal to another place, um, Philadelphia, right? That's what they're most loyal to. They're not really loyal to uh, their country and they're not really loyal to free speech, as they say. That's just my thinking. So when you have this guy on to just talk about Candace, you're just running a smear campaign. That's all you're doing. And if your platform becomes that to where you're just running smear campaigns for the sake of it, okay, but you know, you're Joe Scar Bro now. You're Joe Scar Bro and you're Ma. I don't I don't make the rules, guys. I don't make the rules. I just follow them. So that's what I think of these two. That's what I think about this whole little production. I mean, this guy even went as far as to say that people who listen to Candace Owens are not to be taken seriously. They can't be taken seriously. You can't listen to those type of people. You know what it sounds like? And I've said this before. Sounds like Candace 19. It's what it sounds like to me when they start talking like this. It's the same type of rhetoric. It's the same type of thing. And it starts off light and it starts be getting real heavy. Jesus died at 33. Yes, he did. It starts getting real heavy eventually. Tim P took it to that place. These guys will slowly take it to that place. Jeremy Boring has no problem taking it to that place. And he's trying to slowly, ever so slowly. Why are there so many tissues in my pocket? Okay. Um, it was annoying me. I was like, what's going on? He's like, is this another role? Did I put on another role? Um, so yeah, that's what I think about this whole communication. And one thing that Candace said that is so true, and I've said this so many times when I have friends, uh, my my Philadelphia friends when we talk, because get this, my Philadelphiaian friends, okay, they loved Candace more than I did. I was like, "Yeah, I know about Candace." Yeah. They'd be like, "Bro, she's going to be president. She needs to be president. She's the absolute greatest thing. She's amazing. She's beautiful." And the second she started talking about things that were outside of BLM and black people, they were like, "No, she's terrible. She's terrible. She's actually dumb. She's actually not that smart. She's not that pretty." One of my friends was like, "I want to marry her." And then all of a sudden, he's like, "Man, she's actually not that smart. I don't know. I would never talk to somebody like that." I was like, "What?" I'm like, "This is I'm like, "You know, I know you. I can see you. You know, I can hear your voice. You think I have a goldfish memory? What do you think's going on? trying to gaslight me, man. He was um you know, they they told me about her more than anything, more than anybody. And one thing that she brought up, and many people have, is that when she was talking about black people, it was all good for the Daily Wire. Right? I'm not somebody who makes things about race, but it's a glaring obvious thing is that when she was talking about them, when she was talking about BLM, when she was pushing that narrative forward that would have people dig their heels in the sand, like I just told you in regards to manipulation, dig their heels in the sand and get them on one side and stay on one side. When she was doing that for them, it was completely okay. It was it was awarded