Illegal Immigration Is A PROBLEM 🔥🔥| Turning Point USA

[00:00] in the case of immigration if you hard

[00:02] restrict it and make it harder to get in

[00:04] the only people who are going to make

[00:06] the attempts to get in or generally

[00:07] going to make the attempts to get in are

[00:09] more likely to commit crimes well well

[00:10] that's just not there's no there's no

[00:13] data or evidence to to suggest that at

[00:15] all when we've had the strictest

[00:16] immigration policies crime was at its

[00:18] lowest in this country well so in the

[00:20] 1950s correlation well no it's actually

[00:23] direct causation right now we have wide

[00:25] open borders correct DNA background

[00:27] testing from over 120 different

[00:29] countries sure but I don't I don't think

[00:31] that has to do with the process of

[00:33] getting into the country in well it has

[00:35] to do with the process of getting into

[00:36] the country cuz if it's extremely

[00:38] difficult to get in through legally

[00:39] people are going to resort to coming

[00:40] through

[00:41] illegally well is that not true well but

[00:43] we should just prevent both that's the

[00:45] point you should you should prevent

[00:47] people getting in in any way yeah well

[00:49] we should have a total immigration

[00:50] moratorium in this country compl we have

[00:52] like the lowest unemployment we've had

[00:54] in a long time wouldn't we want more

[00:56] workers no we want wages to go up for

[00:58] American workers it's the oppos well so

[01:01] you want to restrict the labor pool so

[01:02] that you guys get the jobs first not

[01:05] some competitor from Korea or Japan that

[01:07] comes in and steals your Tech job

[01:09] shouldn't we invest in American workers

[01:10] first before foreigners should but why

[01:12] why do you think wages are not keeping

[01:14] up with inflation because we're bringing

[01:16] in millions of people into this country

[01:18] every single year that you guys have to

[01:19] compete against and they don't have

[01:21] student loan debt so they're able to

[01:22] undercut wages every single yeah

[01:24] continue if we're bringing in so many

[01:25] people I don't think we would have as

[01:27] low unemployment as we would right now

[01:30] would we there's two types of

[01:31] unemployment there's structural

[01:32] unemployment and then there's

[01:33] specialized unemployment specialized

[01:35] unemployment is very very high which is

[01:37] about 8 to % which is more computer

[01:40] science data engineering but that we

[01:43] have we have millions of people that

[01:44] have entered the disabled roles too so

[01:46] but to your point we do have millions of

[01:48] people coming into the I mean it's it's

[01:50] a it's not even a question but how many

[01:52] of those people you think that are

[01:53] coming in or would come in if we made it

[01:55] faster and more easy are going to be

[01:57] taking these high specialized tech jobs

[02:00] very few but the point is that

[02:01] then they undercut the muscular class

[02:04] which is the very people that pay the

[02:05] biggest burden for all these policies

[02:08] you said that the high unemployment is

[02:09] in specialized not in general

[02:11] unemployment so if General unemployment

[02:13] is so low then why does it like why are

[02:16] we worried about people coming in taking

[02:17] the jobs of like the that's not the only

[02:19] reason why we're worried we're worried

[02:20] because many of them are coming in

[02:22] illegally and it's they're they're

[02:23] criminals every single one of them so

[02:25] they break our laws I think you're

[02:26] proving my point here though but no

[02:28] you're you're just making one sliver of

[02:29] econ though numbers aside how many of

[02:31] you guys have seen things get so

[02:32] expensive in the last year and a half

[02:33] okay so that's just I agree but the I

[02:35] think we have different reasons cuz I

[02:37] see that major companies why are prices

[02:39] going up I see major companies are

[02:41] owning different things like serial

[02:43] Brands there's like two companies that

[02:44] own all serial Brands and when they can

[02:46] increase the prices continually and say

[02:48] hey look guys it's inflation when

[02:50] they're making record profits that

[02:51] they've never made before that's if

[02:53] that's the case then then why are small

[02:55] businesses raising their prices small

[02:57] businesses are raising their prices cuz

[02:58] the products that they're getting in

[02:59] from from these major two three

[03:00] companies are so how does inflation work

[03:04] inflation works by having more money in

[03:06] the system and generally um because of

[03:10] that your dollar is worth less and then

[03:12] your wages don't really increase and

[03:14] because your wages don't increase

[03:15] everything's costing more to you so true

[03:17] or false we have injected around $10

[03:19] trillion of new money in the last three

[03:21] years absolutely okay so yeah that that

[03:22] is the number one reason why we're

[03:24] seeing prices increase absolutely but I

[03:25] think it's slowed the inflation itself

[03:27] has slowed down a lot and the price

[03:30] it depends on what good or service

[03:31] you're talking about I agree and I think

[03:33] the reason it's what good or service is

[03:35] because the goods or services that are

[03:36] in control of borderline monopolies are

[03:39] able to raise their prices more and more

[03:41] that's why when you go to the grocery

[03:42] store the big issue is a bunch of things

[03:44] are going up that are controlled by

[03:46] major companies that are supplying all

[03:47] these grocery stores right yeah but a

[03:50] lot of them have competitors and so I

[03:52] mean I I could I could list five or six

[03:53] examples where there's robust

[03:54] competition and prices are still going

[03:56] up but we have too many dollars Cho

[03:58] chasing too many too few goods and

[04:00] services that's the big problem our

[04:02] worker base isn't really churning as it

[04:04] should because we have such low

[04:05] unemployment which is why I'm saying

[04:07] immigration should be easier to come in

[04:08] cuz when your workers aren't moving

[04:10] through positions and stuff wages aren't

[04:12] going to increase that often because

[04:15] you're more likely to get a wage

[04:16] increase by switching to another job

[04:17] that pays you more yeah so wouldn't it

[04:19] make if you want to get wages up

[04:21] shouldn't you want to restrict the

[04:23] amount of workers in the workforce um I

[04:25] mean it's pretty so if you have 200

[04:27] people you could hire to fix a window or

[04:31] 30 people to hire to fix a window wh

[04:33] which pool is going to have the higher

[04:35] average wage I think the I think the

[04:38] smaller pool would the issue is a lot of

[04:41] people right now aren't wanting to go

[04:43] switch to other jobs all the time and

[04:45] when you get more people in more jobs

[04:47] you're likely to have more churn through

[04:49] there okay yeah that I don't think we

[04:50] disagree on that okay cool so that's

[04:52] that's why I'm saying like but you don't

[04:54] have me convinced on the immigration

[04:55] issue though because if if you restrict

[04:57] immigration across the board then you

[05:00] have a you have a prioritization and a

[05:02] lesser pool of competition for foreign

[05:05] born American labor sure but what I

[05:08] think am I wrong in saying your issue is

[05:10] that you have issues with specialized

[05:12] labor coming in and taking the positions

[05:14] of higher paying more specialized yeah I

[05:16] mean to be fair it's it's specialized

[05:19] muscular class labor which is conflated

[05:22] so there's there's Advanced

[05:23] manufacturing too which does not require

[05:25] college degree but can take six to nine

[05:28] months of apprenticeship or for example

[05:30] being an auto mechanic that's not

[05:31] exactly being a coder but that's tough

[05:34] work right um or you know even more

[05:36] simply I just don't think that that's

[05:38] the majority of Labor that is going to

[05:40] come in if we allow more people through

[05:43] and it's not like a blanket oh we're

[05:44] letting everybody through but right now

[05:46] I see my biggest issue with the right is

[05:48] that like why are we restricting more

[05:50] immigration other than like illegal

[05:51] immigration but why are we not proposing

[05:53] ways to loosen immigration to fix that

[05:56] the jobs that aren't like that cuz

[05:57] there's like most jobs aren't generally

[06:00] in those classes you're coming after

[06:01] this in good faith my my response would

[06:04] be we need a national training program

[06:06] to get Americans properly trained before

[06:08] we try to import foreign labor to fill

[06:10] those positions and that goes back to my

[06:12] college as a scam type postulation so we

[06:15] have over supplied the credentialing

[06:18] which is forear college degree and we've

[06:20] under supplied the 6 to n month

[06:23] specialization vector and because that

[06:25] we have massive job openings I want to

[06:26] get to the next question thank you

[06:27] appreciate it