in the case of immigration if you hard
restrict it and make it harder to get in
the only people who are going to make
the attempts to get in or generally
going to make the attempts to get in are
more likely to commit crimes well well
that's just not there's no there's no
data or evidence to to suggest that at
all when we've had the strictest
immigration policies crime was at its
lowest in this country well so in the
1950s correlation well no it's actually
direct causation right now we have wide
open borders correct DNA background
testing from over 120 different
countries sure but I don't I don't think
that has to do with the process of
getting into the country in well it has
to do with the process of getting into
the country cuz if it's extremely
difficult to get in through legally
people are going to resort to coming
through
illegally well is that not true well but
we should just prevent both that's the
point you should you should prevent
people getting in in any way yeah well
we should have a total immigration
moratorium in this country compl we have
like the lowest unemployment we've had
in a long time wouldn't we want more
workers no we want wages to go up for
American workers it's the oppos well so
you want to restrict the labor pool so
that you guys get the jobs first not
some competitor from Korea or Japan that
comes in and steals your Tech job
shouldn't we invest in American workers
first before foreigners should but why
why do you think wages are not keeping
up with inflation because we're bringing
in millions of people into this country
every single year that you guys have to
compete against and they don't have
student loan debt so they're able to
undercut wages every single yeah
continue if we're bringing in so many
people I don't think we would have as
low unemployment as we would right now
would we there's two types of
unemployment there's structural
unemployment and then there's
specialized unemployment specialized
unemployment is very very high which is
about 8 to % which is more computer
science data engineering but that we
have we have millions of people that
have entered the disabled roles too so
but to your point we do have millions of
people coming into the I mean it's it's
a it's not even a question but how many
of those people you think that are
coming in or would come in if we made it
faster and more easy are going to be
taking these high specialized tech jobs
very few but the point is that
then they undercut the muscular class
which is the very people that pay the
biggest burden for all these policies
you said that the high unemployment is
in specialized not in general
unemployment so if General unemployment
is so low then why does it like why are
we worried about people coming in taking
the jobs of like the that's not the only
reason why we're worried we're worried
because many of them are coming in
illegally and it's they're they're
criminals every single one of them so
they break our laws I think you're
proving my point here though but no
you're you're just making one sliver of
econ though numbers aside how many of
you guys have seen things get so
expensive in the last year and a half
okay so that's just I agree but the I
think we have different reasons cuz I
see that major companies why are prices
going up I see major companies are
owning different things like serial
Brands there's like two companies that
own all serial Brands and when they can
increase the prices continually and say
hey look guys it's inflation when
they're making record profits that
they've never made before that's if
that's the case then then why are small
businesses raising their prices small
businesses are raising their prices cuz
the products that they're getting in
from from these major two three
companies are so how does inflation work
inflation works by having more money in
the system and generally um because of
that your dollar is worth less and then
your wages don't really increase and
because your wages don't increase
everything's costing more to you so true
or false we have injected around $10
trillion of new money in the last three
years absolutely okay so yeah that that
is the number one reason why we're
seeing prices increase absolutely but I
think it's slowed the inflation itself
has slowed down a lot and the price
it depends on what good or service
you're talking about I agree and I think
the reason it's what good or service is
because the goods or services that are
in control of borderline monopolies are
able to raise their prices more and more
that's why when you go to the grocery
store the big issue is a bunch of things
are going up that are controlled by
major companies that are supplying all
these grocery stores right yeah but a
lot of them have competitors and so I
mean I I could I could list five or six
examples where there's robust
competition and prices are still going
up but we have too many dollars Cho
chasing too many too few goods and
services that's the big problem our
worker base isn't really churning as it
should because we have such low
unemployment which is why I'm saying
immigration should be easier to come in
cuz when your workers aren't moving
through positions and stuff wages aren't
going to increase that often because
you're more likely to get a wage
increase by switching to another job
that pays you more yeah so wouldn't it
make if you want to get wages up
shouldn't you want to restrict the
amount of workers in the workforce um I
mean it's pretty so if you have 200
people you could hire to fix a window or
30 people to hire to fix a window wh
which pool is going to have the higher
average wage I think the I think the
smaller pool would the issue is a lot of
people right now aren't wanting to go
switch to other jobs all the time and
when you get more people in more jobs
you're likely to have more churn through
there okay yeah that I don't think we
disagree on that okay cool so that's
that's why I'm saying like but you don't
have me convinced on the immigration
issue though because if if you restrict
immigration across the board then you
have a you have a prioritization and a
lesser pool of competition for foreign
born American labor sure but what I
think am I wrong in saying your issue is
that you have issues with specialized
labor coming in and taking the positions
of higher paying more specialized yeah I
mean to be fair it's it's specialized
muscular class labor which is conflated
so there's there's Advanced
manufacturing too which does not require
college degree but can take six to nine
months of apprenticeship or for example
being an auto mechanic that's not
exactly being a coder but that's tough
work right um or you know even more
simply I just don't think that that's
the majority of Labor that is going to
come in if we allow more people through
and it's not like a blanket oh we're
letting everybody through but right now
I see my biggest issue with the right is
that like why are we restricting more
immigration other than like illegal
immigration but why are we not proposing
ways to loosen immigration to fix that
the jobs that aren't like that cuz
there's like most jobs aren't generally
in those classes you're coming after
this in good faith my my response would
be we need a national training program
to get Americans properly trained before
we try to import foreign labor to fill
those positions and that goes back to my
college as a scam type postulation so we
have over supplied the credentialing
which is forear college degree and we've
under supplied the 6 to n month
specialization vector and because that
we have massive job openings I want to
get to the next question thank you
appreciate it
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