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Jesse ON FIRE Examines Erika Kirk's Controversial Friendship with 15-Year-Old Girl
Jesse ON FIRE reviews disturbing social media exchanges between Erika Kirk and a teenage girl named Jillian from 2013-2014. The investigation, originally covered by NissCee.Social, reveals text messages and tweets containing sexual references, discussions of alcohol, and romantic gestures between the then-25-year-old Miss Arizona and the 15-year-old. Jesse struggles to find any benefit of the doubt in communications that include phrases like "sex too, but not from you" and warnings about alcohol consumption to an underage girl.
Examining the Timeline of Inappropriate Contact
Jesse ON FIRE analyzes social media evidence compiled by researcher NissCee.Social showing communications between Erika Kirk (then known as Erika Frantzve) and 15-year-old Jillian beginning in September 2013. The relationship started when Jillian, then a high school freshman or sophomore, began publicly tweeting admiration at the 25-year-old former Miss Arizona. Rather than establishing appropriate boundaries, the evidence suggests Kirk encouraged and reciprocated the attention.
The documented exchanges include Jillian tweeting statements like "I fell in love with the world in you" and "Don't care if it's Wednesday or not. She'll always be my woman crush." Multiple responses from Kirk's account have since been deleted or are hidden behind privacy settings, raising questions about what was said in those now-invisible replies.
The Disturbing Text Message Exchanges
The most concerning evidence comes from screenshots Jillian shared publicly on Twitter. In one March 2014 exchange, Kirk wrote "Let me call you. Hold on, sweetheart. Give me a sex" followed by "Sec. Sex too, but not from you, lol" and "I don't bat for the other team just yet." While the initial typo of "sex" instead of "sec" could be accidental, the follow-up messages appear to deliberately engage with sexual content while communicating with a minor.
Another text conversation shows Kirk advising Jillian to "hydrate tonight. No alcohol and don't eat a lot of salty foods. You don't want to look bloated." When Jillian thanked her, Kirk responded "No alcohol. Really, Erica? Age recognition, you fucking waffle. Apparently, I haven't had my coffee yet." The acknowledgment of Jillian's age in this context only highlights the inappropriateness of discussing alcohol with someone six years below the legal drinking age.
Romantic Gestures and Territorial Behavior
The relationship extended beyond digital communication. On March 26, 2014, Jillian tweeted "Thank you @EricaFrance for making my whole week" alongside a photo of a gnome with the caption "I want to be inside your lady garden. Know what I'm saying?" Days later, Kirk reportedly sent Jillian a red box of chocolate-covered strawberries.
Evidence also suggests possessive behavior from Kirk. When Jillian posted a photo with a male friend, she tweeted "Did Erica just text me #no new friends? Oh my fucking god, I can't" - indicating Kirk was monitoring Jillian's social interactions and expressing jealousy or territorial feelings about her spending time with others.
The Pizza Connection and Other Red Flags
NissCee.Social's investigation also highlighted curious details about Kirk's social media history, including a September 30, 2013 photo of her eating pizza - notably the only photo of her eating food on her entire Instagram despite frequently mentioning loving In-N-Out Burger. The significance of this observation relates to documented online communities that use food-related hashtags and imagery as coded communication.
Additionally, Kirk's then-boyfriend Cabot Phillips had famously tattooed the word "pizza" on the inside of his lip, which he proudly displayed on social media. When combined with Kirk's history running a children's charity in Romania that faced "very, very, very, very dark accusations," these details contribute to a pattern that warrants serious scrutiny.
Why the Benefit of the Doubt Doesn't Apply
Jesse emphasizes his consistent attempts to give Kirk the benefit of the doubt in previous controversies, but finds this situation impossible to excuse. While acknowledging that Jillian appeared to be the primary initiator of contact - describing her as "acting crazy" with the intensity of her attention toward the beauty queen - he stresses that the adult in any such dynamic bears complete responsibility for establishing and maintaining appropriate boundaries.
The legal and ethical standards are clear: when a minor pursues an adult, regardless of how aggressively or inappropriately, the adult must shut down any romantic or sexual communication immediately. Instead, the evidence shows Kirk engaged with sexual topics, discussed alcohol consumption, sent romantic gifts, and demonstrated jealous behavior - all hallmarks of grooming.
Tactics of Predatory Behavior
Drawing from personal experience, NissCee.Social identifies the communication pattern as consistent with predatory grooming tactics: "little slick things, say little things, and pretend that it was an accident or oh, it was a misunderstanding. Oh, I didn't mean to touch you like that. I didn't mean to say the words like that." She explains how such behavior typically escalates over time until major boundaries are crossed.
The "accidental" nature of Kirk's comments - the typo leading to sexual discussion, the "forgotten" age when mentioning alcohol, the "jokes" that push boundaries - fit this pattern precisely. Each incident individually might be explained away, but the accumulation of such "accidents" over months of sustained contact reveals a troubling picture.
Questions About Kirk's Life Circumstances
Jesse raises important questions about why a 25-year-old woman with Kirk's supposedly busy schedule would invest time in this relationship at all. During the period of these communications, Kirk was running multiple businesses, operating the Romanian Angels charity, had won Miss Arizona, and maintained a serious relationship. What possible legitimate reason would she have for sustained friendship with a high school freshman?
The only scenarios that might explain the attention - such as Jillian being the daughter of someone important or connected to Kirk's charitable work - would make the inappropriate nature of the communications even more egregious, not less. Adults in mentoring or professional relationships with minors have an even greater duty to maintain strict boundaries.
The Broader Pattern of Concealment
The fact that many of Kirk's responses in these exchanges have been deleted or hidden behind account privacy settings adds another layer of concern. If the communications were innocent, why remove them? The selective deletion of potentially incriminating evidence while Jillian's side of the conversations remains visible suggests an awareness that the content would not withstand public scrutiny.
This pattern of concealment extends to other aspects of Kirk's history that researchers have uncovered, including claims about her professional background in Washington DC political affairs dating to May 2014, and various inconsistencies in her public narrative that Jesse has documented in his ongoing investigation series.
Video Transcript
It's like each thing in a vacuum can be
explained, but this given the sequence
of events to get us to this, how could
you possibly explain this as anything
other than what it looks like? All
right, Jesse on fire. Welcome back. So,
I assume everybody knew that this video
was coming where I was going to cover
Erica Kirk's little uh conversation
relationship with this 15-year-old that
uh Nissy Social covered. And I saw Baron
was covering it and I'm sure uh I heard
some other people covered it as well,
but this is uh this is weird. This is
weird. I feel like Erica Kirk is 18
different people and I I honestly feel
like I can't even take my hypothesis
from one day and then apply it to the
next day because it's so all over the
place. And I will say this also, I have
been fair to her, very very fair. And I
have always tried to find a way to give
her the benefit of the doubt in
basically every single situation. This
one it's only conversations but as many
people are pointing out it feels like
you know and I agree with them straight
up I agree with them the way that she
spoke to this person and the
conversation continuing after a certain
point is unbelievable and we're going to
get into all of that uh in a second. Now
check this out though before we get into
into that. I just stumbled on some other
stuff here that Baron was posting. So,
uh, Baron post 612 weeks ago as of u May
of 2014. Was anyone else aware Erica
Kirk was very involved with political
affairs in Washington DC?
And uh what he's citing here right here
is the post commented on is from May
16th, 2014. And it says, "I have several
white ink tattoos and I'm a working
professional in the entertainment
industry, nonprofit world, and very
involved with political affairs in
Washington DC. When tattoos are
tasteful, they are considered a form of
art, not a distraction that hinders your
job opportunities. I mean, listen, the
idea that uh tattoos can't impact your
uh chances of getting a job are that's
absurd. Of course, they can. And I don't
know whose advice she is giving that to
or what, like who she's giving that
advice to. And maybe it's only because
this is in the context of what I know is
coming in the conversation with the
15-year-old that that seems weird. But
neither here nor there. What I will tell
you is weird is if you are watching my
content and you have not subscribed yet
because I've made it very clear it's not
free to watch my channel. It's just
doesn't cost any money. I just ask that
you subscribe and then you can watch all
the stuff in the world. And I appreciate
you guys doing that. Also, if you have
not yet watched episode one of my series
about Charlie Kirk potentially having
faked this thing with the assistance of
basically everybody whose name has been
in this story. You should definitely go
check that out. I worked really hard on
that video and part two is going to be
coming by Thursday at the latest. Okay,
so there's so much information coming in
after that one. I already had a full
episode ready to go and now so much
stuff has come in after I put that
initial one out that now there's a lot
more work that needs to go into episode
two. I don't even know. We might end up
with four, five, six episodes. I have no
idea because there's so much information
coming in. But if you are interested and
you you know watch me enough to know I'm
not insane. So, I promise if I'm putting
this together, it's there's there's a
reason that I am covering it. So, go
check that out. As long as you're
subscribed and you ring the bell, you
will definitely get notified when I drop
episode two. And uh if you don't mind
liking this video, that would also be
incredible. Now, let's get into this
weird weird weird story, man. Like, this
is this is going to make you feel
uncomfortable. I can promise you that.
So Nissy Social covered this and
apparently Erica had this friendship
with this 15-year-old girl and some of
the conversation
appears to be extremely inappropriate
and I don't usually use that word
inappropriate. Sounds weird, you know.
Sounds weird. Sounds like the kind of
word that a teacher says about something
I did when I was like 10 years old. It's
like that's not appropriate. I'm like
all right why it's not. But uh in this
case it is the exact appropriate word
because there is no reason in the entire
world that someone who is over 25 years
old should be talking to a 15year-old
about sex or alcohol and certainly not
about sex together under any
circumstances. Bottom line, that's I I
don't think that's a very controversial
take. You know what I mean? And again,
as we look into this, it's like try to
think like try to try to find a way that
you can give this the benefit of the
doubt. You know what I mean? It's like I
I always try. I couldn't. All right, so
watch this.
>> Remember this photo? This is Cabbat
Phillips proudly displaying to the world
that he had tattooed the word pizza on
the inside of his lip. And as we all
know, pizza is a code word used by
monsters trying to subtly communicate
about their predelections [music]
and deviant behavior, so to speak.
>> Look at her, dude. I was totally
expecting her to say something I was
going to have to edit out. And she did
good. She did good. Good job not saying
words that YouTube will flag.
>> And we all know that Kitt and Erica Kirk
dated. And we all know that Erica ran a
children's charity in Romania that has
some very, very, very, very dark
accusations made against it. Well,
there's something else that some people
noticed about Erica. On September 30th,
2013, Erica posted this photo to her
Instagram of herself eating pizza. Now,
for the record, okay, for the record,
pictures of people eating pizza are not
like just on their own. You can't, you
know, who talked about this actually in
a video that was is really excellent was
Mouthy Buddha. And he said that you
can't just assume because someone has
the uh, you know, these words or
whatever. I can't remember which one it
was in, but whatever. It's like you
can't always assume that someone that h
or a company that says BH that that
means that they are what they say. So I
like at first glance I don't think that
this is anything. However, the Cabbat
Phillips one that's a completely
different story. Tattooing pizza on the
inside of your lip dude. Pizza right
here little girl.
>> It's notable because it's the only photo
of her on her entire Instagram page
where she is eating food. I mean, she
always reminds us of how much she loves
In-N-Out Burger.
>> I want to enjoy eating my In-N-Out
Burger. You really think I'm going to be
on an Egyptian plane while I am wanting
to be with my In-N-Out Burger?
>> But there are no photos of her eating
In-N-Out Burger.
>> Oh my gosh.
Wait until I show you guys this. Not
going to lie, I'm pretty proud of myself
for remembering this, but uh so this is
Dauntless Dialogue. We've talked about
this bunch. Dauntless Dialogue is a
subscription site that has all of the
best documentaries that you have never
seen because they're not allowed on uh
many on the plat. I mean, like,
obviously I'm showing you part of it, so
you can there's plenty that's like
allowed to be shown, but as a whole, the
creators that are on Dauntless are um
they're covering things that just bottom
line would get taken off of the
mainstream platforms straight up. And
they are I mean, dude, there are so many
it'll blow your mind blow your mind how
many documentaries are on Dauntless.
Anyone who's uh who ends up subscribing
to this, if you want uh recommendations,
you can email me and I will give you uh
I'll give you Rex. I'm pretty sure it's
like $35 a year or something like that.
It's be the best money you've spent if
you're into this stuff like this. But
nonetheless, this is not like a paid ad
or anything, but right here, this is
from uh a documentary from um Mouthy
Buddha. And I remembered that there was
a section right here where he
specifically talked about In-N-Out
Burger because this particular episode
is about codes that they all used online
to, you know, indicate that they were
into like deviant stuff. So, check this
out.
>> And posted from two women intimately
connected.
>> I can't say that name. Okay, there we
go. If I simply take an isolated
photograph of my In-N-Out Burger sitting
on a table, an anonymous In-N-Out
Burger, I will get like 50,000 likes in
9 minutes.
Gordius Pickle Jar uploaded this image
of a
You can understand where that's going,
I'm sure. Yeah. So, I'm probably going
to have to put uh some edits over that
just because of the nature of that
video. But, it was important that I
showed you guys what I was talking
about. So, it didn't just sound like I'm
like, "Oh, there was some thing about,
you know, In-N-Out Burger." You're like,
"What?" Because what's be if if I did
end up having to put up a um a censored
thing. Well, it was behind it obviously
was if you're listening, there's a bunch
of girls who are, you know, selling
themselves. But then under the same
exact hashtag are a bunch of videos of
like kids pageantss and uh yeah, kids
pageantss, kids modeling clothes, things
like that. So it's like this exists for
only hookers and
whatever that's about, you know,
whatever that's about. All right, so
let's get back to this thing and uh
we'll get into the specifics of what was
going on with this girl. She often talks
about her.
>> Also, you need to go follow Nissy
Social's YouTube. She does incredible
research. Incredible research. I love
reacting to her stuff because she does
all the she's done like the hard work,
but I obviously I never use everybody's
like entire video. I only use a little
bit and then I try to direct people
there. So, it's like a symbiotic
relationship, but incredible job.
Swedish heritage and talks about making
Swedish meatballs with her grandparents,
but there's no photos of her eating or
engaging with Swedish meatballs. The
only photo she has of herself eating
food is this photo of her posing with a
slice of pizza. And oddly enough, 15
days before she posted this picture, she
began an interesting relationship with a
15-year-old girl named Jillian. I spent
hours digging into this and even heard
from Jillian herself and I think you
guys are going to want to hear this.
>> Yeah. So, we're just going to skip
forward to where they start actually
talking to each other so I can comment
on the actual,
you know, texts that went back and forth
or the posts and whatever because at the
end of the day, this is the stuff that's
like, there it is. She said this, she
said this. She said this, she said this.
What do you think? Just over a week
later on October 9th, 2013, Jillian
tweets, quote, "Next to Miss Arizona at
Bar Louie." Jillian then tweeted this at
Erica France at Cheyenne Chand. Aw,
you're so sweet. Cheyenne is Jillian's
friend. I believe they were classmates
at the time, so they're the same age,
just in case you're wondering. Now, 2
days later, Jillian tweeted at Erica
France dying because you're so pretty.
Someone, presumably Erica, replied, but
then deleted the tweet. This is actually
interesting because when I was watching
this last night, I was not looking at my
phone. I was listening to it and this is
the first of the pictures that I've
seen. So,
okay. So, these are two 15-year-olds
that are that are talking to her.
And Jillian replied at Erica France, we
miss you, too. On October 26th, 2013,
Jillian tweeted at Erica France, how you
enjoying the Michigan weather? Erica
replied, however, the reply is not
visible because the account is now
private. And Jillian replied at Erica
France, "Ah, lucky you. Enjoy it while
on November 7th, 2013, Erica tweeted
something that I can't see because her
account is private, but Julian replied
saying, "Erica France, I fell in love
with the world in you." She also
tweeted, don't care if it's Wednesday or
not. She'll always be my woman crush.
Can I be you at Erica France? This is I
mean
I've never seen anything like this
before in terms of like a 15year-old
going at a like a beauty queen 25 26
whatever she is yearear-old. Okay. Like
just that in and of itself is weird. And
I've seen a lot dude. Like it's weird
that this girl is pursuing her like
that. And given the fact that you can't
see Erica's responses, you can only
speculate on what she was saying. And
don't worry, it gets much more specific
later. But at the end of the day, the
bottom line is if a girl's 15 years old
and you're a grown-up, okay? It doesn't
matter whether they pursue you or what
not. It doesn't matter. Even if you
knew, like even if you like are friends
of the family and you know that this
girl has had a bunch of sexual partners
already or something, it's like if they
pursue you, you're a grown-up. It's like
it doesn't matter. There is no room for
like you don't even talk about that
topic with them. And if they're coming
at you, you know, oh my god, I'm I have
this huge crush on you, dude. You don't
talk to them anymore. Like you don't I I
mean I know it's not exactly the same
one as Two Girls, but like this is
common sense. And she keeps on doing it
and then she keeps on, you know,
>> at the time was Jillian being a bit
obsessive.
>> Yep. Yep.
>> I would say so, but she was 15 years
old. Teenagers can be like this. Okay.
Going through Jillian's social media,
she seems to be very impressionable,
immature, and vulnerable at the time.
And this grown woman, meaning Erica,
should have set clear boundaries with
her, but she didn't. As a matter of
fact, she crossed boundaries with her
quite a few times, which you will see
later in the video. On November 18th,
2013, Jillian tweeted, "Still waiting
for that lunch date, kissing face emoji
at Erica France." There was a reply on
this tweet that was deleted. Then
Jillian says, "Syanchchand
Erica France." That's perfect. deleted.
That did not register to me last night
when I watched this. That's real shady.
That's real shady.
So, she clearly said, "We'll hang out
because she responded back, that's
perfect."
And someone deleted it. I mean,
obviously Erica deleted it. Why would
you delete that post? You know what I
mean? Why would you delete that post?
H the other post you can't see because
her account's private. Why would you
delete that post?
>> On November 20th, 2013, Jillian tweeted,
"Why am I just finding out it's your
birthday? I hope you had a great one at
Erica France." Erica responded to this
tweet. However, we can't see the
response. Then Jillian tweeted at Erica
France. That's great. Kissy face emoji.
On December 18th, 2013, Jillian tweeted,
"I want to just curl up in a ball and
cry because of how perfect Erica France
is." Hard eyes.
>> Okay. And I will certainly acknowledge
like if we're looking for a way to go
benefit of the doubt here, this girl
sounds crazy. Like this girl sounds
crazy. And Erica is a beauty queen who
is like, you know, in the eyes of like a
teenage girl, like that kind of thing.
Oh, she's Miss Arizona. That's like a
big deal. I don't know. I mean, I don't
know. Maybe you guys always think of
that as a big deal. To me, it's like uh
complete nothing burger, you know? Like
if someone introduced me to some girl,
they're all, "Dude, she was Miss
Malaysia 19, you know, 94 or whatever 20
2011." I just like this there's that
holds no weight with me as a grown-up,
but as a you know, 15-year-old girl,
that's like a big deal. beauty queen,
Miss Arizona, whatever. And she is
acting crazy here, which is why it's
weird that she continues to talk to her.
>> Emoji. Erica's response is private. And
then Jillian responds, "You too, love."
On January 6th, Erica made a post that
is currently private, and Jillian
responded at Erica Fronie, gorgeous
love, heart eyes emoji, kissy face
emoji. On January 22nd, 2014, Jillian
tweeted a bunch of messages that I
believe were her gushing over Erica.
Then at 10:30 p.m., so pretty late at
night, she tweets at Erikica France is
the best. The next morning, she tweets
at Erica France, "One day I am going to
wake up, roll over on my side, and kiss
the love of my life good morning." Now,
I know to some of you it might seem like
this is one-sided, like Jillian is the
one initiating everything, but keep in
mind they were also having text message
conversations and phone calls. Plus,
Erica's tweets are private, so we can't
see them. So, we're not
>> Nissi has spoken to the other girl.
Matter of fact, I got to ask her how she
even came on this story, like came up
with this story
because uh Oh, yeah. Nissi's my home
girl.
Uh, I'm really curious about that
actually. Um, anyway, let's keep I I
might end up doing this whole video by
accident. This would be the first time,
but there's like so much meat on this
bone, you know? Get it?
>> Getting the I take that back. I take
that back. It's a joke. I am not
thinking about any meat on any bones
when we're talking about teenagers.
>> Entire picture. So, just keep that in
mind. On February 13th, 2014, Jillian
replied to one of Erica's tweets by
saying, "A Erica France, gorgeous as
always." A few hours later, she then
tweeted, "Why did Erica France feet just
send me this laughing emojis?" And there
is a photo which says, "This Valentine's
Day, I am going to touch your butt."
>> Excuse me.
>> Remember,
>> dude,
come on, man.
teenage girl, 15 years old, sending you
that. And it's like, okay, haha, I think
I'm just going to keep on leading her on
or grooming her. You know what I mean?
>> This girl was 15 and Erica was 25. In my
opinion,
the relationship seems like Jillian
posted this tweet on March 6th, 2014. So
Erica says, "Let me call you. Hold on,
sweetheart. Give me a sex." Wow. And
then Jillian says, "Okay." And puts
laughing emojis. Erica then says, "Se
sex too, but not from you, lol."
>> Yeah. So, that one right there is what
I'm talking. That was the That one where
I was like, "Oh, wow."
Okay. So, again, she says, "Let me call
you. Hold on, sweetheart. Give me a
sex." And then, "Wow." She says, "Okay."
Haha. And then she sec. Sex, too, but
not from you. Lol.
nice Christian girl. Like what the this
is I mean this is crazy town. And then
she says I don't bat for the other team
just yet.
And again like
that is one of those things that's just
black and white. Okay. If you
accidentally to everybody's done that,
okay, every single person at some point
has typed give me a sec and then typed
sex and sent it by accident. It's
happened to everybody at least once.
Okay. How you're going to, you know,
follow that up depends on who you're
talking to. You know, if I'm talking to
my wife, like, you know, obviously I'm
gonna I'm gonna, you know, follow that
up much differently than if I'm talking
to like my grandma. You know what I
mean? And this is a 15-year-old. Like
it's a 15-year-old. A 15-year-old girl.
And even if you're not talking about you
and her, you know, oh, I don't for the
other team. You said sex, too. Like you
encouraged a 15year-old that like sex is
cool.
Like that's that is crazy town. If some
25year-old said that to my daughter who
was 15 was like sex too. Hey, I'm not
batting for the other team, but like,
God, I love sex. I would be like, the
[ __ ] is wrong with you?
Why? What? What is wrong with you?
You know, especially she's supposed to
be like the like little Christian girl,
you know? No sex before marriage. Hey,
were you married? No. Then what are you
talking about? What are you doing?
Super weird, dude.
>> Holy [ __ ] Laughing emoji. You always
make me laugh. I don't bat for the other
team just yet. What the [ __ ]
>> Right to jail. Right away.
>> This text exchange gave me chills. It
seems like Erica was flirting with her.
I don't bat for the other team just yet.
And this conversation is happening at
night. 8:50 p.m. What the are you doing
texting this girl so late at night with
all of this [ __ ] sexual innuendo?
What the is wrong with you? Mind you,
this was after Erica had won Miss
Arizona. She is running businesses. She
has this the Romanian Angels charity and
other charities, you know, working for
all of these different organizations,
companies. She even had a boyfriend.
Okay. Her life should be too busy to be
over here entertaining 15year-old girls.
How on earth
>> that
that
the only thing that I can think of is
who is this girl though? You know what I
mean? Who is this girl?
I mean, is she
is she related to somebody that's a big
deal or is she just some random person
online? If she's like the daughter of a
big deal person, then I understand. But
even more so, I would definitely keep
away from illicit topics, you know what
I mean? Or
exact opposite if they're, you know, the
daughter of someone really important
that happens to be in, you know what I
mean, with the baby. Did she even have
the time, let alone the interest to be
carrying on this so-called friendship
with this 15year-old girl? But there's
more. It gets worse.
>> And real quick,
who is friends with a 15year-old when
you're 25? Okay. Like, did you guys have
any anybody like when you're 15, that's
your freshman in high school? It's a
freshman or sophomore in high school.
25, you're out of college.
25, you're out of college. Do you guys
remember having any friends that were
freshman or sophomores in high school?
That is so weird.
On March 13th, 2014, Jillian shared
another screenshot of her text messages
with Erica. Erica says, "I forgot to
tell you, hydrate tonight. No alcohol
and don't eat a lot of salty foods. You
don't want to look bloated. Jillian then
responds, "Thank you." Erica says, "No
alcohol." Really, Erica? Age
recognition, you [ __ ] waffle.
Apparently, I haven't had my coffee yet.
What the hell, Erica? Laughing emoji.
Well, on that bite, dot dot dot note.
Damn you, Siri. Come on. # the struggle.
What do you
>> Dude, that is straight up on purpose.
That is straight up on purpose.
No alcohol.
Come on, dude.
That ain't jing for me at all.
And then a [ __ ] waffle. You're talking
to a 15-year-old man.
And then the other, what are you trying
to say? Spit it out, you [ __ ] waffle.
This is [ __ ] bananas, dude.
I don't Yeah.
Yeah, no alcohol. You'll be No alcohol.
Really, Erica? Age recognition.
Apparently, I haven't had my coffee yet.
Super weird, dude.
>> Trying to say laughing emoji. Spit it
out, you [ __ ] waffle. How on earth could
she have forgotten that she was
messaging a child? The legal drinking
age is 21 and Jillian was 15 years old
at the time. And she very much texts
like a 15-year-old girl. How the did you
forget that part that she's 15? Maybe
I'm projecting, but I don't think so.
Okay. When I was 15 years old, I was in
a similar situation with an adult who
would do things like little slick
things, say little things, and pretend
that it was an accident or oh, it was a
misunderstanding. Oh, I didn't mean to
touch you like that. I didn't mean to
say the words like that. I didn't I
didn't mean it. And over time, their
their behavior continued to escalate to
the point where they eventually crossed
a huge line. So when I see things like
this, I get mad because these are the
types of tactics that predators use. I
have experienced it myself.
>> Yeah, that alcohol one that is
that's what I'm saying. I always try to
give people the benefit of the doubt,
but that it's like come on. Oopsie.
Well, give me sex, too. But, you know,
not from you, cuz I definitely haven't
noticed you hitting on me constantly
through X. I'm not I'm not ba I'm not
I'm not, you know, baiting this to go,
you know, more more
25
beauty queen 15year-old.
>> Back to Jillian. On the morning of March
26th, 2014, Jillian tweeted, "I just
want to be somebody's woman crush
Wednesday. Is that too much to ask?"
that evening. She then tweets, "Thank
you at Erica France for making my whole
week." And she shares this photo and the
photo is of a gnome and it says, "I want
to be inside your lady garden." Know
what I'm saying?
>> What do you think that means, guys? Let
me just go back so you can see that
again. She says, "I just want to be
somebody's lady crush."
I just want to be somebody's lady crush.
and then later. Thank you, Erica, for
making my whole week. I just I want to
be inside your lady garden. No, I'm
saying.
What do you guys think? Is there a world
in which that was not some kind of Erica
responding to this girl and then, hey,
you're, you know, you can be my lady
crush.
Because if it's not that, this is
absurd.
And keep in mind, Nissi has spoken to
this girl.
She is uh not, you know, specifically
talking about what she said, but
you know, stands to logic that uh she
knows more than she's saying in the
video.
>> I want to be inside your lady garden.
Know what I'm saying?
>> Right to jail right away. These tweets
are still available on Twitter as I am
making this video. All of this that I'm
sharing with you is publicly available
information just in case you're
wondering. Now, on April 3rd, 2014,
Jillian tweeted this picture and said,
"I miss this goon." A few minutes later,
she tweeted, "Did Erica just text me #
no new friends? Oh mying god, I can't."
So, the assumption is that Erica was
being territorial over Jillian hanging
out with her male friend. A few days
later on April 5th, 2014, Jillian posted
this tweet getting this in the mail from
Erica Fronty. And in the photo is a red
box of chocolate covered strawberries.
And
>> I listen, I apologize for showing this
whole video, but like I said, I had not
seen the video version of this. I had
only been listening to it. And some of
this stuff I apparently did not catch.
Like I didn't catch that. I didn't catch
the thing, the no new friends thing.
I knew about the chocolates after the
gnome thing because I was like, I want
to be inside your lady garden. It's like
bottom line is you cannot communicate
with this child anymore like at all. No
matter what. I don't care whatever you
you know if we are even pretending that
you didn't mean to do the the text like
now this is a wrap. Okay. She's talking
about being inside your lady garden.
She's 15 years old.
you are a supposed straight Christian
woman who is the future, you know, Mrs.
Charlie Kirk and then, you know, uh,
Make Heaven Crowded Again tour, which,
uh,
Romanian Angels, you know. All right, I
just cut [clears throat] off because I
ended up filming another like six or
seven minutes, but I don't want to take
up the entire video from Nissi. This is
probably the most of anyone's video I've
ever used, but it's that I mean, I don't
know. This was uh captivating. Go follow
her channel for sure. There's more that
uh that I did not cover. Well, I covered
it, but I cut it out because I felt
weird about it. Uh but anyway, I
appreciate you guys. Go ahead and
subscribe to the channel. Ring the bell.
Oh, and part two of the uh Charlie Kirk
will be coming out probably well by
Thursday for sure. Love you guys. Bye.