Joe Rogan and Andrew Santino Dissect the Charlie Kirk Shooting Incident: Suspicious Details and Unanswered Questions

[00:00] the Joe Rogan experience.

[00:02] >> He set it up in a way that like, okay,

[00:04] you're saying something that's actually

[00:06] factually inaccurate according to the

[00:09] narrative. Now, let's be real clear. I

[00:11] don't necessarily think they know what's

[00:13] going on yet. There's a lot of weird

[00:16] [ __ ] going on with this.

[00:17] >> I know.

[00:18] >> First of all, there was that one guy who

[00:20] is the decoy.

[00:21] >> All right. So, you got this guy who's an

[00:23] older guy who starts yelling out, didn't

[00:26] he take his pants down? He took his

[00:28] pants down. This guy uh was at 9/11. He

[00:32] was at the Boston bombing. So he he

[00:34] called in a fake bomb at another place

[00:37] and then he did this at this thing right

[00:40] after. So somehow or another this guy

[00:42] has the state of mind that the moment

[00:44] someone gets shot, he yells out and

[00:47] says, "I did it. I did it." And takes

[00:49] his pants down or something like that. I

[00:50] don't know exactly what he did. Then

[00:52] ready for this? He gets arrested for

[00:54] child porn right away.

[00:57] >> Right after this happened. Right away

[00:58] he's in jail for child porn. Why is

[01:00] that? Well, now you can't interview him.

[01:02] >> Right. He's got Right.

[01:04] >> Right. And when cuz when the internet

[01:05] people start going, how do you how are

[01:07] you at all these different things? Like

[01:09] what are the odds? Like if someone ran

[01:10] it through uh one of the chat GPT

[01:12] [ __ ] Perplexity things, like what are

[01:15] the odds that this guy would be at all

[01:17] those different events and be involved?

[01:20] Like zero.

[01:21] >> This is the guy.

[01:22] >> Yeah.

[01:23] >> I just like that the pants down part is

[01:25] just insane to me. It's like why is your

[01:26] dick out? He did it. I did it.

[01:28] >> Listen, I'm not saying this guy isn't

[01:30] insane. He's clearly insane and or not.

[01:33] Or he's professionally insane.

[01:36] >> Right.

[01:36] >> That's where it gets squirly.

[01:38] >> I almost texted you when the Charlie

[01:40] Kirk thing happened because my my

[01:43] antennas went up about they showed the

[01:45] photo of that kid or the guy that they

[01:46] have, the 22-year-old. Yeah. Whatever.

[01:49] >> And I was almost going to be like,

[01:50] "Dude,

[01:52] that you think he's got the capability

[01:53] to do that?"

[01:54] >> Yeah. Well, listen. There are people

[01:55] that look like that that have the

[01:57] capability to do that. Pretty accurate.

[01:59] >> Nope.

[01:59] >> Nope. Not hard. Not hard at all. Let me

[02:01] dispel that. Let me dispel that. Okay.

[02:04] 200 yards from a prone position with a

[02:07] dead-on rifle. So, if you have a dead-on

[02:09] rifle, so you set this rifle, you set

[02:12] your zero to 200 yards, right? You know

[02:14] how far you're going to shoot. Is not

[02:16] hard at all.

[02:17] >> He shot a lot.

[02:18] >> You don't have to shoot a lot. I could

[02:19] do it tomorrow.

[02:20] >> If you're a f No, but you are

[02:22] experienced. If it's a f if it's a

[02:23] someone that's never shot, could they do

[02:24] it?

[02:25] >> 100%. Not if they've never shot, they

[02:27] wouldn't know where to look. They'd have

[02:28] a hard time acquiring the the you know,

[02:31] like when you look through a scope, like

[02:34] the reticle is weird. Like it takes it's

[02:36] sometimes you got to know the distance

[02:38] that you have to be from it to really

[02:40] line it up in your sights.

[02:42] >> But you could get a guy like my friend

[02:45] Andy Stumpf, who was a a sniper in the

[02:48] SEALs. You could get him and he could

[02:50] show you how to do it in an afternoon

[02:52] and then you could hit steel at 200

[02:54] yards every time you pull the trigger.

[02:55] >> One day you could learn that.

[02:56] >> Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Not that hard.

[02:58] >> Cuz it feels insane to me. I'm like that

[03:00] seems tough.

[03:01] >> It seems tough. It seems tough. We still

[03:03] haven't figured out whether or not the

[03:05] gun that shot Trump had a sight on it

[03:08] cuz we weren't sure if it had a sight on

[03:10] it or if this guy was using iron sights.

[03:12] That was 140 yards. If you shot it with

[03:14] iron sights, that's a lot harder because

[03:16] iron sights is you're lining up. So you

[03:18] have these two things in the back and

[03:20] there's one thing at the front of the

[03:21] barrel and you got to line those [ __ ]

[03:22] up perfectly and that's how you stay

[03:24] accurate. That is a lot harder to do.

[03:26] >> It's like old shotguns have those,

[03:28] right?

[03:28] >> Sure. Pistols, you buy a Glock, that's

[03:31] what it comes with,

[03:32] >> right?

[03:32] >> But this this kid had a rifle with a

[03:35] scope. Now, here's where it gets weird.

[03:38] The first images of this rifle with a

[03:40] scope, I swear to God, it looks like he

[03:42] has a composite stock on it. like it

[03:44] looks like a like a modern 30 odd 6

[03:48] rifle. So a 30 odd six. So that's the

[03:50] rifle 30 odd 6 is like that looks like a

[03:53] very modern looking stock. I mean it

[03:56] might not be it might it might be just a

[03:58] bad resolution. It might be wood. It's

[04:01] hard to tell. But if you showed me that

[04:04] and you said, "Hey, this is my cousin's

[04:07] rifle. Is this any good?" I'd be like,

[04:09] "Looks like a standard boltaction rifle

[04:12] with like a sophisticated modern scope

[04:14] on it." Sure. Now, apparently the

[04:17] narrative is that this is his

[04:19] grandfather's rifle from World War I and

[04:22] doesn't have a serial code.

[04:26] >> Okay.

[04:27] >> Interesting.

[04:28] >> Okay. Why? Wait, wait, wait, wait.

[04:32] Why are you using such an old gun? Like,

[04:34] that's kind of crazy. Like, is it

[04:36] possible that an old gun can be that

[04:38] accurate? If you have a gunsmith and

[04:40] they work on it, yeah, it's totally

[04:42] possible. You have a really good

[04:43] gunsmith and he sets if you if you're

[04:45] like a nostalgic person, you're like

[04:46] driving an old car, you could bring it

[04:48] to a mechanic, they could redo the

[04:49] brakes.

[04:50] >> Sure.

[04:50] >> So, if you had a good gunsmith and he

[04:52] took a look at that and the action was

[04:53] true and you know, the b the bore is

[04:56] good. You know, yeah, you could

[04:58] conceivably shoot with a gun for

[04:59] hundreds of years, right? Guns don't

[05:01] they don't necessarily go bad,

[05:03] >> right? They don't expire,

[05:04] >> right? And especially because all this

[05:06] stuff like the trigger and the action

[05:08] and all that different stuff is

[05:10] replaceable. So you could just like it's

[05:11] comp it's compartmentalized. It's

[05:14] components. That's the other thing. They

[05:16] said that he took it apart and then put

[05:18] it back together again.

[05:21] Shut the [ __ ] up. Do you know how much

[05:23] time it would take to do that if you

[05:24] were highly skilled

[05:25] >> to disassemble a gun?

[05:26] >> To disassemble a rifle so that you can

[05:29] get it in a backpack. And by the way,

[05:31] not going to fit.

[05:32] >> Not going to fit. back

[05:33] >> and then somehow or another reconnects

[05:36] it once he gets off the roof. What

[05:40] >> What's that?

[05:40] >> That's a pitch. Is that what they

[05:41] pitched? Huh?

[05:42] >> Yeah. And then he's supposed to get it

[05:44] in that stupid [ __ ] backpack. It's

[05:46] literally It makes no sense.

[05:48] >> And the elevator music wasn't a nice

[05:50] touch, by the way.

[05:51] >> So, this is this is just a narrative,

[05:53] right? We watch a guy jump off the roof

[05:56] and then we we supposedly find this

[05:59] rifle. So, if you can have a guy that's

[06:02] in the audience that's yelling, "I shot

[06:04] him, now shoot me. I shot him, now shoot

[06:06] me." And then that guy gets arrested for

[06:09] child porn charges. Like, he's like,

[06:10] "What is what is going on here?" And

[06:12] then you find this rifle and then you

[06:13] say, "Oh, he assembled it and he

[06:15] reassembled it." Like,

[06:16] >> okay,

[06:18] >> a if I I wish I was a cop, I'd sit in

[06:21] the room like, "This story is horshit."

[06:23] Like, none of these none of these things

[06:24] make any sense to me. Like you're

[06:26] telling me that this kid who's not

[06:29] military trained, this guy, first of

[06:31] all, how did he get to the roof? How

[06:32] come nobody was looking? How come nobody

[06:34] was like there's a direct line of sight

[06:36] between where he's sitting and those

[06:37] roofs? You guys didn't check. You don't

[06:39] have a drone. Like that's insane. So

[06:42] he's on the roof. He shoots. He jumps

[06:45] from the roof. He jumps down 14 feet.

[06:48] >> Yeah, we saw they had Didn't they have

[06:49] video of him jump? Somebody had a cell

[06:51] phone video of him jumping.

[06:52] >> There's a video of him jumping. So this

[06:53] guy, whoever it is, jumps off of the

[06:55] roof and lands. Whether or not he's even

[06:56] the guy who shot him.

[06:58] >> Maybe he thought he was going to shoot

[07:00] him. Maybe he's a pathy. Maybe he did

[07:02] it.

[07:02] >> I feel like he's a plant. Did you see

[07:03] the video? Did you see the the person

[07:05] doing the investigating on his mom's

[07:06] Facebook?

[07:08] >> No.

[07:08] >> You haven't seen this? Have you seen

[07:09] that, Jamie? Some dude online.

[07:11] >> His mom's got a weird Facebook. Spill

[07:13] coffee.

[07:13] >> Very trippy. It doesn't make any sense.

[07:16] Like the more they keep looking into it,

[07:18] the more they're like, "This doesn't

[07:19] feel like a real

[07:21] >> it feels super fabricated."

[07:22] >> But here's the thing. Just like I was

[07:24] talking about when people are arguing on

[07:25] social media, it's all a part of the

[07:28] plan. If you want things to become

[07:30] >> Oh, I wanted it so bad. Buckets. That

[07:32] was buckets.

[07:33] >> If if you want people to to lose all

[07:37] faith that anyone is going to solve

[07:40] anything,

[07:41] >> you add a bunch of You're going to kill

[07:42] a guy. You got a bunch of other wacky

[07:44] [ __ ] that doesn't make any sense and you

[07:47] spam it out there at the same time. You

[07:49] leave a gun that didn't do it right

[07:51] >> out in the woods. You do a bunch of [ __ ]

[07:53] like that.

[07:54] >> You have an old man put his dick out and

[07:56] yell, "I did it. I did it. I did it."

[07:57] >> Yeah. You get some kid who has a

[08:00] boyfriend who's a furry and you uh you

[08:03] talk to him on Discord. I think he's a

[08:05] furry.

[08:05] >> I don't want to disrespect. I don't know

[08:06] if that's a real his boyfriend's

[08:09] definitely a guy who became a girl

[08:11] >> and wears furry stuff.

[08:12] >> I think they do furry sex. They I think

[08:15] or or furry games. Excuse me. My

[08:17] apologies. I don't want to disrespect

[08:18] the furry sex furry game community,

[08:21] >> bro. Shout out to the furries cuz me and

[08:23] Duncan