Erika Kirk: Deleted Tweets & Secret Past Exposed

[00:03] Are you taking responsibility or are you

[00:06] giving them a device and saying go down

[00:08] that rabbit hole? I'm trying to go to

[00:11] Pilates class. Do you want your kid to

[00:14] be a thought leader or an assassin?

[00:17] >> What is she talking about? So Candace

[00:19] Owens just had her 4 and a half hour

[00:22] meeting with one Erica Kirk and she says

[00:24] that the temperature has now cooled down

[00:27] and she said that the meeting was very

[00:29] productive. Let's just directly read

[00:31] what she said. Quote, "Erica and I had

[00:34] an extremely productive 4 and a half

[00:36] hour meeting that I think we both feel

[00:37] should have taken place a lot earlier

[00:39] than it did. We agreed much more than I

[00:41] had anticipated. Of course, we also

[00:43] disagreed on various points and people

[00:45] as well. But most importantly, we were

[00:46] able to share intel and clarify intent.

[00:49] But the question is, can you actually

[00:51] trust the information Erica Kirk is

[00:54] giving you? For example, Candace posted

[00:56] these Mikey McCoy call logs yesterday,

[00:58] but the question is, can we trust it?

[01:01] Because according to some of these

[01:03] timestamps, somebody a bunch of people

[01:07] are lying, right? It says 12:24, Mikey

[01:09] McCoy calls Elizabeth McCoy, that's his

[01:11] wife, and will stay on the phone with

[01:12] her for 10 minutes. And at 12:26, Mikey

[01:15] McCoy adds Erica to the call. Now, that

[01:18] is 3 minutes after Charlie Kirk was shot

[01:21] at 12:23. problem is, however you take

[01:24] it, that information already is

[01:26] contradictory with the New York Times

[01:29] because the Times reported that Miss

[01:31] Kirk was sitting in her mother's

[01:32] hospital room at 11:23 a.m. local

[01:35] Phoenix time, which is 12:23 Utah time

[01:38] when she saw the number of her husband's

[01:40] longtime assistant, Mikey McCoy, appear

[01:42] on her phone. It's a threeminute

[01:45] difference. So, some might say it

[01:47] doesn't really matter. But I'm a firm

[01:49] believer in small lies lead to bigger

[01:53] lies or people who tell small lies have

[01:55] the propensity to also tell bigger lies.

[01:58] And maybe we would let this go except

[02:00] for the fact that now we have discovered

[02:03] or people online have discovered entire

[02:05] history, chapters of Erica Kirk's life

[02:08] that we never knew existed. For example,

[02:11] if we go to Wikipedia, it says that

[02:13] Erica and Charlie Kirk started dating in

[02:15] New York City in 2019.

[02:18] And based on a recent town hall with

[02:20] Barry Weiss, she said that she was not

[02:23] dating anybody in the years prior to

[02:26] meeting Charlie.

[02:27] >> When I lived out here, I was here for 5

[02:28] years. I never dated here cuz I saw

[02:32] vicariously through my roommate how

[02:33] terrible it was. Somehow getting drinks

[02:36] was the replacement of having coffee and

[02:39] breakfast. I personally would rather

[02:40] have coffee or brunch with someone than

[02:42] go I just I don't drink. I find it

[02:44] unproductive. Not because I'm holier

[02:46] than whatever. I that's not I just don't

[02:49] operate that way. But I always thought

[02:52] it was very strange how she would go to

[02:53] drinks with one guy and then go to

[02:56] dinner with another. So it goes twofold

[02:58] here. So if you're expecting to marry

[03:01] someone that I was blessed with, like a

[03:03] Charlie, you have to be the type of

[03:05] woman that will attract a Charlie. Are

[03:08] you going to church? Are you going to

[03:10] Bible study? Did you tell your pastor

[03:12] that you are ready for the Lord to bring

[03:15] into your life the man that you've been

[03:16] praying for?

[03:17] >> So, don't drink. Go to church so you can

[03:20] attract a good man like Charlie Kirk.

[03:23] But, um, we don't know for sure if she

[03:26] wasn't drinking, but she did really

[03:28] enjoy posing with alcoholic beverages.

[03:31] For someone who supposedly was not a fan

[03:33] of drinking culture, she sure was fine

[03:36] using it for commercial or financial

[03:38] gain. Here's her with a glass of

[03:41] champagne. It says, "It's Wednesday, so

[03:43] treat yourself to a little champagne."

[03:45] And did she really not date while she

[03:48] lived in New York City? Because based on

[03:51] my soothing, she lived in New York from

[03:53] at least about 2016 onwards to when she

[03:57] married Charlie in 2021. This is an

[04:00] article I found from Women magazine and

[04:04] it says, "Amid her physical

[04:06] transformation, Erica found Bible in 365

[04:10] in 2016, which evolved into her own

[04:12] clothing brand. She said, quote, I

[04:14] started Bible in 365 in my New York City

[04:18] apartment." So, this was 2016 when

[04:21] confirmed she did live in New York City.

[04:23] So, why do I point out this little

[04:24] detail? Well, it's because remember she

[04:27] said that she didn't date anybody in New

[04:29] York City. So presumably between the

[04:31] years of uh 2016 and 2019 when she met

[04:34] Charlie, she didn't date. Well, here is

[04:37] a photo that the internet slleuth dug up

[04:39] from September of 2017

[04:42] with one Cat Phillips. And the caption

[04:45] says, "Yes, we're that couple who gets

[04:47] painting lessons together." And here you

[04:49] could see Erica France and Cabbat

[04:52] Phillips. I don't know about you, but

[04:54] that looked like a little bit more than

[04:56] just a one-off date. It looked like they

[04:57] were an actual couple as the caption

[04:59] said. People were commenting gorgeous

[05:02] couple love birds in these posts that

[05:05] have now since been deleted. So either

[05:08] they're trying to hide this relationship

[05:10] or maybe they just had a really bad

[05:12] breakup. I know people tend to sometimes

[05:14] delete photos from relationships that

[05:17] they are no longer in. But

[05:19] interestingly, Kabat Phillips was

[05:21] actually at one point Charlie Kirk's

[05:24] producer and he is now a senior editor

[05:27] at the Daily Wire. And just yesterday,

[05:30] December 16, 2025, he gave a talk about

[05:33] quote, "How to lead like Charlie." You

[05:36] got to understand, I am not from this

[05:38] world of media. And I think all this

[05:40] kind of incestuity

[05:43] is weird to me. But the bigger point is,

[05:47] why does Erica have to lie about this?

[05:49] Is it just for her to prop up this image

[05:53] that she is a conservative woman, quote

[05:55] unquote? Because you can't hide this

[05:57] kind of stuff. The internet is

[05:59] undefeated. So, not only do we now know

[06:01] that she was dating before Charlie,

[06:03] which is fine. It's a totally normal

[06:05] thing to do, but she was also engaged,

[06:08] perhaps even married. Luna Bear Studios

[06:11] posted this on March 16th, 2015.

[06:14] Prepping another couple's gallery for

[06:16] delivery. Erica France and JT Massie.

[06:19] You both are amazing humans and I love

[06:22] shooting you. So much laughter and love.

[06:24] It was perfection. This is what happens

[06:27] when your entire image is propped up by

[06:31] something that just is not true. If you

[06:34] are not this woman, don't pretend to be

[06:37] right.

[06:39] Nobody cares who you were in the past.

[06:41] It's all about who you are now. So, you

[06:43] could say, "Hey, I was this crazy party

[06:45] girl. I dated around a lot. I was even

[06:47] engaged, but I have since found my

[06:50] faith. I've realized a lot of those

[06:52] behaviors were toxic, so I'm changing

[06:54] course and making my life better." That

[06:56] is a perfectly good story. I don't

[06:57] understand why you have to lie. Speaking

[07:00] of lies, you know how Erica Kirk is

[07:02] going around and promoting Charlie's

[07:04] book right now, doing a whole media

[07:05] tour. Well, once again, she was caught

[07:08] in another lie.

[07:09] >> A couple of weeks ago, Erica Kirk went

[07:11] on Megan Kelly's show and was talking

[07:14] about Charlie Kirk's new book, Stop in

[07:16] the Name of God. When Megan Kelly asks

[07:19] her if she's read the book in its

[07:21] entirety, she says yes. But last night

[07:24] on Sean Hannity, she tells a different

[07:27] story. Watch this.

[07:29] >> To read it.

[07:30] >> When?

[07:31] >> Yeah. as much as I can driving under the

[07:33] office or

[07:34] >> what I mean. Was it written entire in

[07:36] its entirety before Charlie died?

[07:38] >> Yes, it was.

[07:38] >> Yes, it was. He finished writing this I

[07:40] believe in July, June or July of of this

[07:44] year.

[07:44] >> So, you had read it?

[07:46] >> Mhm.

[07:47] >> Because I read it again. I read the

[07:48] whole thing,

[07:49] >> you know, and

[07:51] >> I'll be honest, I can't read the last

[07:52] few pages. I'm not there yet.

[07:55] >> It's just emotionally cuz once this book

[07:57] is done, it's done.

[07:58] >> Now, I get it. This is something really

[08:00] small and maybe it doesn't even matter.

[08:03] It's possible she just didn't bring that

[08:05] detail up to Megan Kelly. But as the

[08:08] saying goes, if you can lie about small

[08:11] things, you can also lie about big

[08:14] things.

[08:15] >> Mhm. Whoever is careless with the truth

[08:18] in small matters cannot be trusted with

[08:21] the important matters. Albert Einstein.

[08:23] And tomorrow, Turning Points Amfest

[08:26] America Fest 2025

[08:28] kicks off December 18th to the 21st. It

[08:32] says, "America's future starts here. The

[08:36] biggest conservative movement in the

[08:38] country." Turning Point's annual America

[08:40] Fest Conference will be held December

[08:42] 18th to the 21st, 2025 at the Phoenix

[08:45] Convention Center. This year's event

[08:47] will be unlike any other, a powerful

[08:49] celebration in faith, freedom, and the

[08:50] legacy of their founder, Charlie Kirk.

[08:52] Charlie's life was a testament to faith,

[08:54] courage, and conviction. From his

[08:56] earliest days, he believed America was

[08:57] worth fighting for, and he dedicated

[08:59] every moment of his 31 years to that

[09:01] cause. Grounded in God's faith, and

[09:03] driven by a calling bigger than himself,

[09:05] Charlie poured his life into others,

[09:07] raising up a generation bold in faith,

[09:10] steadfast in love, of freedom, and

[09:11] unafraid to defend this nation. What

[09:14] began as a vision of an 18-year-old in a

[09:17] small garage. What is it with the

[09:19] garages? like things can start in places

[09:21] other than a garage as well. I know it

[09:23] sounds cool and all, but anyway, uh in

[09:26] Lamont, Illinois grew into one of the

[09:29] most powerful grassroots movements in

[09:30] America. Through turning point, Charlie

[09:32] ignited a fire in the hearts of

[09:33] millions. He showed us that truth must

[09:36] never be silenced, that courage is

[09:38] contagious, and that freedom must be

[09:40] protected at all costs. I totally agree.

[09:43] Truth must never be silenced, which is a

[09:46] little bizarre because there's a lot of

[09:47] people out there, including Erica Kirk,

[09:49] telling people to stop talking. At

[09:52] America Fest 2025, we gathered to honor

[09:54] Charlie's legacy, to continue the

[09:55] mission he began, and to celebrate the

[09:57] country he loved. Over four

[09:59] unforgettable days, thousands of

[10:00] attendees will hear from the nation's

[10:02] top leaders, engage with over 100

[10:04] partner organizations, and experience

[10:06] world-class training designed to

[10:07] strengthen their leadership and

[10:09] activism. Well, I got a few questions

[10:11] because remember Charlie had a lot of

[10:14] issues with some of these organizations

[10:16] with these donors. He was in a major

[10:19] conflict near the end of his life. So,

[10:22] who are these partner organizations? Who

[10:24] are these speakers? Who chose these

[10:26] speakers? And which country's interests

[10:30] do they represent?

[10:32] >> H does the aesthetics of this show

[10:34] remind you of anything? Anyone? Maybe

[10:37] this guy. Okay, so follow this timeline

[10:40] here with me. On August 9th, Yer

[10:42] Netanyahu, the son of BB Netanyahu,

[10:45] announces that he's going to be starting

[10:46] a new podcast with, once again, very

[10:50] America first vibes. And then a few days

[10:53] later on August 13th, Harrison Smith

[10:55] reports that he was told by someone

[10:57] close to Charlie Kirk that Charlie

[10:59] thinks Israel will kill him if he turns

[11:02] against them. And then, of course, we

[11:03] all know what happened about a month

[11:05] later. Tragedy strikes. But check this

[11:08] out. Who does Erica Kirk just so happen

[11:10] to be standing next to in this Apac

[11:13] photo? Yep, none other than Yayer. Yeah,

[11:18] probably nothing to see here. I know

[11:20] that was just a fun little conspiracy

[11:22] rabbit hole. I'm sure there is really

[11:24] nothing to see there, but the point that

[11:27] I was trying to make is that for an

[11:29] America first organization,

[11:31] these guys sure do care a hell of a lot

[11:34] about a certain other foreign country.

[11:37] Charlie and I have always been very

[11:38] clear on our stance.

[11:41] Israel and Jewish people.

[11:44] It's awful.

[11:48] Awful. Anti-semitism is

[11:52] what what healing factor comes out of

[11:55] hating Jewish people? What healing

[11:57] factor comes out of hating Christians?

[11:59] What healing factor comes out?

[12:02] Hate in general. Nothing.

[12:05] Nothing.

[12:08] Charlie always would say very clearly,

[12:11] "Jew hate was brainw

[12:16] Israel twice together."

[12:21] And to be able to walk in the place

[12:24] where our Lord walked

[12:28] and see the Bible come to life in

[12:30] Technicolor.

[12:32] How could you hate that place?

[12:37] How could you hate the Jewish people?

[12:40] >> The assassination of my husband was

[12:42] heavy. But what really upsets me is when

[12:45] people don't like Israel. Erica,

[12:47] Shabbat, Shalom, Kirk. Okay, that is

[12:49] obviously a joke. But I think one of the

[12:52] biggest issues that I've always brought

[12:54] up is this conflation of anti-semitism

[12:56] with anti-ionism. And if you continue to

[13:00] conflate Judaism with Zionism, that in

[13:03] fact is a very dangerous thing. And it

[13:06] is what leads to, I think, the true rise

[13:09] of anti-semitism around the world. But

[13:12] why does Erica even matter? That's

[13:14] something that I think may be a question

[13:16] that you guys have. Why are we even

[13:19] talking about her? Well, I think she

[13:22] matters because she is taking Charlie's

[13:24] place at top the American political

[13:27] empire. the whole thing. It's not just

[13:29] conservative Americans. It's all

[13:31] Americans. She literally has her own tab

[13:34] on CBS News. Okay. It's like, yes,

[13:37] horrible attack at Bondi Beach. You got

[13:39] the Brown University shooting that we

[13:41] still have no clue who did as of the

[13:45] time I'm filming this. And we got an

[13:47] Erica Kirk tab. She's essentially being

[13:49] propped up as America's mom now. So the

[13:53] question that I would like to ask all of

[13:55] you is would you trust or do you trust

[13:58] this person with your life, your

[14:01] community, your family, your future,

[14:04] your country? That is it for me this

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[14:41] >> So, how do you two ladies know each

[14:42] other?

[14:43] >> We were in Miss USA together.

[14:44] >> Oh, cool.

[14:44] >> So, she was Arizona and I was Miss North

[14:46] Carolina. It's just it's like genuinely

[14:48] refreshing to have a conversation with

[14:51] somebody that like has the same beliefs.

[14:54] You coming in here just like owning it.

[14:55] I

[14:55] >> appreciate that.

[14:56] >> I'm really attracted to it. Can I get

[14:58] your number? Like

[14:59] >> how do you text those nails that long?

[15:02] >> They're real.

[15:03] >> You give like a mean back scratch. Just

[15:05] kidding.