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Candace Owens drops explosive revelations about the Charlie Kirk case, confirming twelve Israeli cell phones were on the ground at Utah Valley University the day Charlie was shot. She challenges the Trump administration and Kash Patel to deny this information, which high-level government officials are allegedly desperate to keep from the public. Owens also exposes suspicious timing around Mikey McCoy's sudden rise within Turning Point USA, including his unprecedented filming of Charlie's final moments and family vacation footage weeks before the assassination. She questions why Turning Point insiders describe Mikey with glowing adjectives and why he seemed positioned to become "the new Charlie."
Israeli Cell Phones at the Assassination Site
Candace Owens reveals what she describes as verifiable proof that twelve Israeli cell phones were present at Utah Valley University on September 10th when Charlie Kirk was assassinated. She clarifies these were not VPNs routed through Israel, but personal cell phone accounts opened in Israel, similar to opening an account at Verizon in any American state. According to Owens, the NSA, Kash Patel, and others in the current administration know this information and are desperate to prevent it from reaching the public.
Owens publicly challenges the Trump administration and Kash Patel to deny this claim if it is untrue. She questions why this information is being kept under wraps, playing devil's advocate by suggesting the phones could belong to exchange students, tourists, or American students who studied abroad. However, she insists the public deserves answers about who owned these twelve Israeli cell phones and why this information is being hidden.
The Curious Case of Mikey McCoy
Owens highlights a pattern she finds deeply suspicious: the consistent use of glowing adjectives when Turning Point USA insiders describe Mikey McCoy. She plays multiple clips of people calling him "amazing," "heroic," "brilliant," and "great" - language she finds unusually programmatic and unlike how people normally describe friends or colleagues. She questions why Mikey McCoy requires these qualifiers and suggests it feels like psychological programming to prepare the public for Mikey to become "the new Charlie."
According to Owens, Turning Point USA insiders expressed discomfort with what they described as an "extra spring in his step" that Mikey displayed after Charlie's death, and that he seemed all too happy to assume Charlie's position. She notes he is already speaking at Liberty University and questions whether the standards for heroism have been lowered, given that his "heroic" actions consisted of making phone calls after walking away from his friend who had been shot.
Suspicious Timing and Documentary Footage
Owens presents a timeline of curious activities by Mikey McCoy in the weeks leading up to Charlie's death. On Charlie's final overseas trip to Korea, just four days before he died, Mikey decided for the first time ever to mic up Charlie and capture behind-the-scenes footage. Mikey himself stated this was the first time he had traveled with a camera for this purpose, which Owens finds remarkable and outside the normal duties of a chief of staff.
Additionally, just weeks before Charlie died, Mikey and his wife Eliza went on what Eliza described on Instagram as their "first family trip together" with Charlie and Erika Kirk. During this vacation, the McCoys captured intimate footage of the Kirk family, including the viral video of Charlie walking with his children while Erica grabs his hand. Owens questions what moved the McCoys to capture these specific moments, noting that in organic family footage, typically one family member is missing because someone has to hold the camera. She finds it odd that the McCoys were positioned to capture these moments during their first vacation together.
Rob McCoy's Transition and Real Estate Moves
Owens reveals that Rob McCoy, Mikey's father and senior pastor of Godspeak Calvary Chapel in Thousand Oaks, California, made significant life changes in the months leading up to Charlie's death. After seventeen years as head pastor, it was announced in January that Rob would step down and assume the role of pastor emeritus, with the transition taking effect in mid-July. The Ventura County Star reported this was specifically because his responsibilities at Turning Point USA had grown.
According to the reporting, Rob and his wife sold their home in Thousand Oaks and bought a home in the Phoenix area. Owens confirms that Rob also put a secondary home in Coronado near San Diego up for sale on August 24th, 2025. She finds the timing of these moves suspicious and notes that the McCoy family was "pretty busy this summer."
The Succession Plan Mystery
In a particularly odd moment, Rob McCoy was asked on the Faith Forward Show about Mikey's future role at Turning Point USA. His answer struck Owens as evasive and strange. He began by mentioning that Charlie was an "avid journaler" and that when Erica started opening Charlie's journals after his death, she discovered Charlie had a plan written out all the way through 2028, including an "order of succession."
Rob then referenced Erica's description of Mikey as "the amazing Mikey McCoy" at Charlie's memorial, seemingly trying to connect this to Charlie's written plans, before trailing off into a different topic about public figures having little privacy. Owens questions whether Rob was attempting to suggest, without explicitly stating, that Mikey's future role was part of Charlie's written succession plan. She found this a bizarre way to answer a straightforward question about Mikey's future.
Utah Valley University Event Timeline
Owens presents new information about how the Utah Valley University event came to be. According to Fox 13 investigative reporter Nate Carlile, UVU received a request on July 18th for Charlie to hold an event on campus. Not only did Turning Point USA instantly accept this request, but they made it Charlie's first stop, which Owens describes as incredible and unprecedented. She notes that universities across all fifty states constantly request Charlie and her to speak, but for a request coming in that late to be honored and become stop number one within weeks has never happened in her experience.
Fox 13 News also revealed that UVU has denied their request for a copy of the security plan for the rally, citing provisions in state records laws about keeping confidential "security measures" and expressing concern that records could interfere with investigations. Owens finds everything about this event unusual, noting there was no ambulance on standby, which she says is against Utah law. She mentions receiving a tip that the event was initially slated to be inside but was moved, though she acknowledges needing to verify this information.
Tucker Carlson on Forgiveness and Western Values
Owens plays clips of Tucker Carlson from his appearance on Dave Smith's show, where he explained his decision to interview Nick Fuentes despite Fuentes having attacked Tucker's wife, son, and father. Tucker emphasized that virtue and sin are not transmitted genetically, that there is no such thing as blood guilt, and that collective punishment is always immoral. He stated this position is the basis of western civilization.
Tucker contrasted this with what he described as the Israeli government's position on collective punishment, noting that some Israeli ministers openly state that everyone related to a terrorist shares in his guilt. He called this "anothetical to Christianity and to the West," while acknowledging that most countries, including most of Asia and India, hold similar positions. Tucker emphasized the importance of forgiveness and allowing people to change, stating he doesn't believe in having permanent enemies who are American citizens.
Rejecting Political Pressure
Owens declares she is done voting and supporting Republican races until the truth about Charlie Kirk's death is acknowledged. She specifically refuses to engage with pressure to support candidates in consequential races like the mayoral race between Zac Donnie and Cuomo in New York. She states she will not reinvest in a party that promised transparency if elected but is now hiding information about Epstein files and the circumstances of Charlie's death.
She describes the current political landscape as not left versus right, but power versus everyone else. Owens says she will do "nothing" for the broader political community until officials start telling the truth, specifically about the impossibility of a 30-06 round being stopped by Charlie's neck. She calls it "unbelievably abusive" to suggest she must work for a party that is lying about her friend's assassination.
Connections and Funding
Owens reveals that Rob McCoy's Godspeak Calvary Chapel church was funded by the Wilks brothers from Texas, the same people who provided initial seed money for DailyWire+ and major funding for Prager University. She describes this as "an interesting web that's being woven" and notes the church is part of what is described online as a cult, something called "Christians for Jews."
She also mentions that Benjamin Netanyahu and his supporters immediately began doing "propaganda rounds" denying any involvement in Charlie's assassination, even though nobody had accused them. Owens quotes the proverb "a thief runneth when no one pursueth" to describe this behavior, questioning why they felt compelled to make these denials.
Video Transcript
All right, you guys. Let's jump right back into
it, back into the investigation because I have some incredibly interesting updates for you.
Actually, some explosive revelations regarding the Charlie Kirk case. Now, buckle up because
there's this country that's only the size of New Jersey. It's always the victim. It turns
out that they had some people on the ground that day. And I just want to be clear here,
no matter what I say throughout this episode, please remember that they are always the victim.
historically have always been the victim and they have done nothing wrong. Didn't do nothing
wrong on 910 either. In other news, the McCoys, let's jump back into their story because I've
learned some crazy interesting data points to add to our timeline. You know, I love me a timeline.
So, let's jump back in. Welcome back to Candace. [Music] Do you know that moment when your subconscious
uh kind of meets your conscious? Like you just suddenly your subconscious is storing all this
information and it's maybe flagging something for you that's a little weird, but you haven't
come to realize it yet. And then all of a sudden the information breaks the surface and you're
like, "Aha, I got it. I didn't even realize that that thing that happened a long time ago was
a little bit weird. And suddenly you're behaving like Dory the Bluefish from the movie Finding
Nemo when she remembers the P. Sherman address from Australia. You guys know that moment.
Take a watch. SH Sydney. P Sherman 42. Sydney [Music] Nemo. Yes. Nemo. Crime solved. Okay, that
is how it works. Never ignore your subconscious. That's why I say pay attention to my dreams.
I don't care who has to laugh at me about it. And there was this little something that flagged
in the back of my mind as odd in the aftermath of Charlie's assassination. One of these things
that might seem small, but it's always the small details that help to paint the broader and bigger
picture. Right. L. Woods in the movie Legally Blonde. She was absolutely correct when she said
that people who work out have endorphins and happy people don't kill their husbands. Anyway,
the thing that I realized is that Mikey McCoy, the chief of staff of Turning Point USA, Mikey
McCoy, for whatever reason, he always requires an adjective. Whenever they discuss Mikey McCoy,
there's an adjective before they say his name. A bunch of people in the Turning Point USA orbit
described Mikey McCoy in this very unique manner. I want you to take a listen to that. Let me tell
you who the heroes were in this whole thing. We're going to start with 23 23-year-old Mikey McCoy.
And that's when the great Mikey McCoy showed up. and my husband's chief of staff, the amazing
Mikey McCoy. My friend Mikey McCoy, the brilliant 24 year old who at the time when Charlie was shot
was 23 and was a hero that day. I used to be known as Charlie Kurt's pastor. Now I'm known as Mikey
McCoy's dad. He clicked into gear eventually. It was amazing. Mikey was a heroic figure on that
day. Amazing. Heroic. He was brilliant. It stood out to me really because it's only Mikey that
they moved to do it for. And objectively speaking, okay, I don't care what your experience in life
is. I would not move to insist that someone was quote unquote heroic for walking away from their
friend after he was shot. Okay? I just wouldn't that wouldn't be the adjective that came to my
mind. Heroic. I also don't feel the need ever to qualify any of my friends with an adjective. Think
about how strange it would be if on this show, every time I cover Tucker Carlson, I was like,
"The spectacular Tucker Carlson. The breathtaking Tucker Carlson is under attack in this moment."
You'd be like, "Why are you doing that? Why do I feel like you're trying to program me?" This
only made me more interested in Mikey and the McCoy story. And I want to be super clear here.
No innuendo. I don't think that I know that Mikey McCoy did not kill Charlie Kirk. We watch him
in those moments. But it's also becoming pretty apparent to me that the stage was being set
for Mikey to become the new Charlie. In fact, on stage at the memorial event for Charlie and
elsewhere, they were trying to prime the public for that plausibility. Almost like it was this
psychological operation, nod to Rob McCoy and his family lineage, to see Mikey as capable of filling
Charlie's shoes. Take a listen. Let me tell you something about Mikey. Mikey's been with Charlie
for several years. He's 23 years old. He is wise be bond beyond his years. And when that tragedy
struck, Mikey was an absolute hero who kept everybody calm and did some of the most mundane
things you would think you would need to do on the worst day of his life. And he continues to be
a rock. He's been following Jesus for a long time. Um, I'm hoping that Mikey one day will follow in
Charlie's footsteps right to the college campus because he has the ability, the demeanor, the
grace, the knowledge to do so. Set an example for the believers in speech and conduct and
love, in faith and in purity. Our speaker today, Mikey McCoy, has done that. His path was pretty
much like Charlie Kirk's path. Pretty much like Charlie Kirk's path. And he's got the grace and
the wits and everything. It's amazing. Okay. And if you're wondering why we also included Erica
saying the amazing Mikey McCoy in her first speech, it's because Rob McCoy oddly refers back
to Erica's speech when he is asked specifically what he believes Mikey's future is going to be
at Turning Point USA. Okay. He's going to start, you're going to see he's going to
answer a question. The show is Faith, the Faith Forward Show. And he starts to answer
the question, but then he sort of cuts himself off and he trails into a different topic almost
as if he catches himself. Take a listen. And then Mikey specifically like how he's going
to kind of fit into that picture because when I'm seeing him speak, man, I'm like, dude,
this Mikey is going to have a humongous role within this organization. So Charlie was an
avid journaler journaler. Very avid. And when Erica started opening up his journals after he
was killed, she started reading. Charlie had a plan all the way through 2028. Wow. Written out.
Written out. I mean, there's an order of success succession. And and when so when she comes out
and she says the amazing I think she said the amazing Mikey McCoy McCoy. Yeah. Um they and this
is one of the things I I I would share with Mikey. I share with Charlie and I I learned it from Steve
Smotherman and Pastor Steve Smotherman said it to Charlie in a in in a where where you're a public
figure, you have very little private privacy. That was weird, right? That's a weird way to try
to answer that question. What's he doing there? Is he trying to make us believe but not explicitly
state but kind of explicitly state or maybe implicitly state that Charlie's future or rather
Mikey McCoy's future was written by Charlie in one of these journal that's what I was picking up
that's what I feel like he was throwing down let me know if I'm crazy but that was a weird way to
answer and he's like so when Erica comes out and she says the amazing Mikey McCoy he talks about
the journals what's going on here now I'm going to give you some data points to back this up.
Now, I maintain that the wonderful Mikey McCoy doesn't strike me as intrinsically evil. Something
Charlie used to always say to me is the eyes are the window to the soul. I don't see this intrinsic
evil when I look in Mikey McCoy's eyes. But, however, I do think he was hyped. Okay, I think
Mikey was promised or told or encouraged that he would become the new Charlie. And it is a fact
that that was the number one sentiment that we received from our Turning Point USA insiders
following Charlie's assassination that the you know supercalifragilistic ispialocious Mikey McCoy
appeared to have like an extra spring in his step that made them all a little bit uncomfortable in
the aftermath and that he seemed all too happy to assume Charlie's position. Look, he's already
speaking at Liberty University. Why? Because he made some phone calls. that that's have we
lowered the standards for what makes somebody a hero in 2025? I I don't know. And I will say
that beyond the sentiment that was expressed to us from the Turning Point USA insiders, there
are some interesting facts. Fact number one, for whatever reason, um, in the month, and I'm going
to make sure that I address my timeline here, in the month leading up to Charlie's um, death,
Mikey McCoy was interested in capturing some behind the scenes footage, more intimate moments
of Charlie's life. And I'm going to give you two examples of of that. Okay. Example number one,
Charlie's very last overseas trip to Korea. This was four days before he died. For whatever reason,
Mikey McCoy felt suddenly inspired to try his luck mking up Charlie and capturing him on the road.
And he says this is the first time he ever did it. Take a listen to Mikey McCoy explain that. Today
is really fun because Mikey and Blake are going to talk about their last trip with Charlie to Asia.
Y and Mikey, you are now in the driver's seat. The floor is yours. Yeah. Uh, it's crazy to think that
was just three, four days before Utah and we, it was Charlie's dream to always go to Asia and Blake
and I got the gift of being able to tag along for that. Uh, and so I brought the camera with me.
I've never traveled with the camera before, but I decided, you know, it would be a good idea to mic
Charlie up, do some content with him while we're there. And okay, that is remarkable. Obviously,
for the first time, he decided to mic. It's not something that somebody does as a chief of staff.
It's not something that somebody does in that role. Okay. I've traveled with Charlie everywhere.
Very strange. The person that mics is always the AV person. And I would assume there were some
AV people that were on hand uh given the trip. But anyways, that's not it. Okay, that's not just
one point that we have. And don't worry because I'm going to show you after I plotted all of this
into our timeline. Just a few weeks before Charlie died, Mikey McCoy and his wife Eliza for the very
first time. Now, this is according to Eliza McCoy, she shared that it was the first time ever that
they went on vacation. Her and Mikey went on vacation with Erica and Charlie. Here's that post
on Instagram. That second paragraph begins, "We spent a few weeks together this summer. Our first
family trip together." Okay, getting real close there. And while they were on this very first time
together for a couple of weeks vacation, something moved the McCoys to capture intimate and sweet
moments of the Kirk family from behind the scenes. Now, you know which footage I'm talking about.
It's the footage that has since gone viral of Charlie walking with his children and Erica. Erica
grabs his hand. It's actually a very sweet moment and it moved a lot of us. People were I know I was
crying when I first saw this footage a couple of days um after Charlie uh died. Well, let me tell
you guys something. Fortunately, the McCoys were the ones that captured that footage. See, my thing
is I need to know what moved them to do that. Is are are they really just that extraordinary?
Is it the extraordinarily lucky Mikey McCoy? Because I was thinking about it because I have a
big family and people with families know and you can go through Charlie's Instagram as I have done.
Uh there's always one person missing from intimate family moments when they're on the fly. They're
not planned, right? there tends to be one family member missing because one person grabs the camera
and you're capturing the kids with dad or you're capturing the kids with mom or it's just the kids
whatever it is that's how family footage when it's organic tends to look right and of course on
holidays you get together you stand up you capture a picture that is the pattern if you go through
Erica Charlie's Instagram Charlie's missing or Erica's missing and that's because they're filming
each other but thankfully the McCoys were on hand in what looks like mid July or early August into
early August. According to my source, my sources, we will nail down these specific dates in the
future. We are working on it. Okay. Strikes me as odd that Mikey is just picking up the camera
and capturing these moments. I don't know. I don't know. For the first time ever, I don't like
it. I don't like it at all. And if I'm in Erica's position, I'm starting to look at him funny like
what's going on here? Okay. Now, let's bring in Daddy McCoy. Wouldn't say. He strikes me as
something else entirely. And he similarly had some rather impeccable timing. Rob McCoy, as you very
well know, was the senior pastor of the Godspeak Calvary Chapel uh in Thousand Oaks, California.
You should also know, by the way, let me introduce this to you right now because I didn't know that
he was funded, his church was funded by the Wilks brothers down in Texas. The Wilks brothers are
the ones that fund Daily Wire. We're, you know, the initial seed money behind the Daily Wire, the
initial seed uh not the initial seed money behind Prageru, but they majorly fund Prager University
as well. So, that's an interesting web that's being uh woven before our eyes, right? You got
PragerU and now you've got this this church and they are part of what is described online as a
cult. It's like Christians for Jews. I don't you look into it yourself. I I honestly can't explain
it, but that's just something that you should know in the background. Anyway, for whatever reason,
after 17 years as the head pastor of that church, Rob McCoy, it was publicly announced in January
of this year that he would be stepping down as the head pastor and instead assuming the role
of pastor ammeritus. Now, for the uninitiated, ameritus is basically just an honorific title,
right? bestowed upon someone after they retire from some distinguished position. For Rob McCoy,
they had planned that transition. That transition took effect in mid July of this year. Okay,
mid July of this year is when he officially steps down from the church. Lot going on here in
McCoyland. Now, in case you're thinking, well, that doesn't mean that he was doing all of that
and transitioning because he was anticipating some bigger role at Turning Point USA and
maybe therefore planning to wind down his life in California. No, actually, that's exactly
the reason that was cited when it was reported on in January. Uh, in the Ventura County Star,
they wrote, quote, "He's approaching a transition in July. He'll step down as the senior pastor of
God Speak and hand the reigns to his son-in-law, Micah Stevens, the church's administrative and
worship pastor. McCoy will become the ameritus pastor and will still preach regularly at the
church in a role that could last into the mid70s. And then it goes on to say, "When McCoy's
responsibilities grew at Turning Point USA, he and his wife sold their home in Thousand
Oaks and bought a home in the Phoenix area." Uh, now he said that he bought a different place in
Thousand Oaks. He also owns a home in Coronado near San Diego. Now, what we can confirm to you
is that Rob actually put that secondary home in Coronado up for sale on August 24th, 2025 of this
year. He listed his home up for sale. So, suffice it to say that the fantastic, heroic, sensational
McCoys were pretty busy this summer. And I don't like it at all. I just don't like it. The vibes
for me are not good. Now, we can take a look at our timeline here with these new moves added into
it. We're going to start looking at July 11th because that's when I think things reached some
sort of a pinnacle. That's the infamous speech uh that Tucker Carlson gave where he calls
out Bill Aman. He starts talking about Israel, all this stuff and things start moving. Okay.
Now you can see on that's July 11th and he says that people who serve in foreign armies should
be stripped of their citizenship. He muses about where Bill Aman's wealth comes from. July 18th is
our next date on our timeline and this came from this is a great find from Sam Parker. Uh that is
when Turning Point USA uh receives a request from UVU for Charlie to hold an event at Utah Valley.
Not only do they instantly accept this request, but they also make it his first stop, which is
incredible. Uh, we can listen to a news anchor, I think this is from Fox News Salt Lake City,
describe exactly when that request went out, as we're telling you on July 18th. Take a listen.
Utah Valley University has provided the document that created the rally at which conservative
activist Charlie Kirk was shot to death, but it is not providing the security plan for that day.
I'm Fox 13 investigative reporter Nate Carile. We've been asking UVU for records related to the
September 10th Kirk rally. After about six weeks, this is the first record provided. It's the
application submitted mid July by the UVU chapter of Kirk's Turning Point USA. The applicants
answer standard questions about time, place, and a description of the event. However, we noticed
there is one question not asked on the form. whether organizers need any police protection.
That's a standard inquiry at, for example, University of Utah events. Speaking of police,
UVU has denied Fox 13 News's request for a copy of the Kirk Rally security plan. The university is
citing the provision in state records laws keeping confidential quote security measures end quote.
The campus also has expressed concern that the records could interfere in any investigation and
someone's right to a fair trial. Tyler Robinson is charged with Kirk's murder. Fox 13 plans an
appeal of the denial and we are still pursuing a variety of records related to the Kirk shooting.
Well, Fox 13 News, if I can be of any assistance, you just reach out to me because I've done a lot
of these events and everything happening here is unusual. Okay. for them to honor a request. I
mean, they get every university across all 50 states trying to get Charlie and I to speak. Okay.
A a request going in that late being honored and becoming stop number one within a couple of weeks.
I'm going to say that's never happened. I'm going to dig through my inbox. Okay. I'm going to dig
through my inbox. I'm going to see what the normal security protocols are because as everybody has
noticed, there was no ambulance on standby. And that's against Utah law. And so it's interesting
that they don't want to release the security plan because I'm pretty sure this was an extraordinary
first time thing where they didn't have a security plan. And I had received a tip and I do want
to check this out by the way that they also had initially slated for this event to be inside
but it was moved. Again, I have to look into that. I'm not confirming that. But if that's true as
well, things are about to get very interesting. And guess what guys, there's more. And this part
is crazy. I guess it's not really crazy. I think I saw like Milo Yiannopoulos tweeted, I think
is now I think Israel did it and that's because he was tweeting about the bizarre lie of them
saying Erica Kirk was accepting this award and they completely fictionalized it. They've just
been lying non-stop quickly, right? Uh right out the gate, BBNet and Yahoo doing propaganda
rounds uh denying that he had anything to do with the assassination of Charlie Kirk. Perfectly
normal thing to do, right? Perfectly normal. For some reason, I didn't feel compelled to do that.
I didn't feel like I had to get on camera and make a statement that I didn't kill Charlie Kirk. But
BBnet and Yahoo felt that he needed to do that. And all of his sickle fans in America echoed that
statement. And nobody had accused them. A thief runth when no one pursueth. Right. Well, here's
some explosive news for you that I can now beyond a shadow of a doubt confirm. Putting my name
on this. Not only can I confirm this, but I can publicly challenge the very Zionist occupied Trump
administration who is aware of this to deny it. To come out and say, "No, that's not true." Okay? And
if Cash Patel is done crying about the mean tweets on the internet regarding his sensational singing
girlfriend, he can also certainly make the time of day to deny what I am saying if it is untrue,
right? Because this is pretty relevant. Now, I should say that some people had actually
reported this earlier, like Mel. I've been telling you to follow her village crazy lady over on X.
She was actually very early with this reporting and I had heard rumors and rumblings, but I
wanted to make sure that I had verifiable proof, enough proof that I would go out on a limb, as
I'm doing right now, and asserting that it is authentic and it is real. Ladies and gentlemen,
there were, for whatever reason, 12 Israeli cell phones on the ground at Utah Valley University the
day that Charlie Kirk was assassinated. This has completely spooked the people that are very high
up in government. Now, to be clear, I don't mean that there were 12 VPNs that were switched and
routed through Israel on that day. I mean that there were 12 personal cell phone accounts that
were opened in Israel. Okay? Like you go into Verizon in Tennessee or in Connecticut and you
open your phone. I am saying that they opened their phones in Israel, those accounts in Israel
and they were on the ground on September 10th at Utah Valley University when Charlie was shot. Now
the NSA knows this. Cash Patel knows this. People in the current administration know that know
this and they are desperate for some reason to stop that information from being released to the
public. Why? Because they're the most transparent administration ever. Is that why is this like
Jeffrey Epstein transparency that we're getting? Because that's what it feels like. It always seems
that on the topic of this one nation that's only the size of New Jersey and has done nothing
wrong ever and was truly the greatest friend to Charlie right up until the very end. never put
any pressure on him. Suddenly, everybody abandons their values. True friends of Charlie Kirk, right?
Mhm. Standing on that stage giving him a speech, hiding this. Now, what would be the reason that
they wanted to keep that information under wraps? And why does it have people at the very top
spooked? If there's nothing to hide, then there's nothing to hide. Okay? If there's nothing
to hide, then there's nothing to hide. Now, let's play devil's advocate. And to be clear, we
are now advocating for the devil when we do this. Maybe the cell phones belonged to some exchange
students. It's possible. Maybe 12 Israelis were touring UVU on that day because, I don't know,
Utah Valley University is a place where they maybe wanted to attend in the future. maybe 12 American
students had Israeli based cell phones because they had just come back from a summer abroad
program and they wanted to keep their Israeli cell phones running when they got back home to
Utah. I don't know, but I'd like to know. In fact, we need to know the answer to this question. Why
are they hiding this information? And why and who did those 12 Israeli cell phones belong to?
Okay. I don't like secrets. I don't like secrets, especially when they pertain to the public
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got planes from Egypt, cell phones from Israel, and we are getting the runaround from the Trump
administration, the runaround from his friends, the people that wanted to just stop asking
questions and move on. What does this feel like to you? What does this feel like to you?
Sometimes I wish I was born yesterday, right? It would be so easy to just accept him like, "Oh,
yeah. I totally there just was a lone shooter who, you know, had had never really been hunted, but he
got really lucky and he just fired this shot and he got he never been to the campus, but he somehow
knew how to scale the buildings running around like Spider-Man. I wish I was born yesterday so
I could just accept that. I do." Unfortunately, I wasn't born yesterday. I was actually born
36 years ago and everyone is full of it. I am looking at a situation where Charlie was betrayed
and is actively being betrayed every day by the very people that he helped to elect people that
are in office. They are betraying him by trying to feed us this nonsense. Okay? They are feeding
us they're they're selling us crap and trying to tell us it's food, right? Like this is nourishing
or something. I just won't tolerate it. Okay? And it is, I think, one of the craziest things
happening right now that these people are now telling us to shift gears and that it's our duty,
right? It's our duty to make sure more of them get elected. Now, there are a lot of people
running around right now. Uh there are races, important races, they tell us, going on in the
country, consequential races that are happening. And people online are being somewhat accusatory,
upset that Republicans are infighting, if that's what you're calling this. I'm not fighting with
you, okay? I'm going to see this thing all the way through. And that we're instead focused on using
our platforms um to fight one another rather than to encourage people to go vote so that Republicans
can stay in power across various cities. You know, as just one example, of course, people really uh
cannot stop speaking about the M Donnie versus the Kuomo mayoral race in New York. Now, Cuomo's
already one of the most corrupt families in New York. And now they're like, "No, switch gears
because mom Donnie is going to be worse and it's your job as a good little Republican, okay,
to go out there and to make sure that mom Donnie doesn't win." And to those very many people,
I would like to say, "No, I'm good. Actually, I'm just not interested. I'm interested in nothing
until you start telling the truth about what happened to Charlie Kirk. Until you acknowledge
that a 30 six did not go through his neck, did not get stopped rather by his neck. Until you
acknowledge that that story that you tried to sell us is complete BS, something that could take down
a moose somehow did not take down Charlie Kirk. Are you kidding me? Are you absolutely kidding
me? I'm not interested in your races around the country. I'm not voting until this is resolved.
Okay, this is toxic. You are toxic. And it is unbelievably abusive to suggest that I have to now
reinvest and work for the exact same party that told me that if I voted for them and got the word
out for them, and I did do all of those things, that things would be different. Corruption's going
to stop. We're going to be the most transparent thing administration that you've ever seen. Except
on those Epstein files. Yeah, I know. He was like um abusing children. But what Epstein files
were we even talking about? No. No thank you. No. Nope. Goodbye. Not doing it anymore. You're
left versus right. Don't care anymore. There is power and there is the rest of us. There is
power and there is the rest of us and you are not going to convince me that any of this stuff
is consequential after I just watched Charlie Kirk catch a bullet in his throat and am watching all
of you lie about it. Okay, there's actually this uh vintage clip from TRL, remember Total Request
Live with Carson Daily that perfectly embodies me and how I am feeling in this moment. So,
let's watch that vintage clip together. Hi. Um, my name is Manda and I live in
Florida. Being a young black female and a also a teen mother. Um, what do you guys do
to get back give back to the community? Um, also directed mostly towards OD. I know PR
and the Fujis do things for the community, but what do you what is going to be your
thing for the community? Nothing. [Applause] Don't get me wrong. Don't get me wrong now. Don't
get me wrong. Send you love to the Republicans. I send you love. Okay? Don't get me wrong. I send
you love. But what I will be doing for the broader community until you start telling the truth is
nothing. Nothing. So don't even don't don't at me. I just don't care at all. Not even a little bit.
Anyway, uh, two of the like three people that I still like that are within the realm of politics
got together. Tucker Carlson joined Dave Smith. I kind of want to qualify Tucker Carlson. I feel
like I want to say the stupendous Tucker Carlson joined Dave Smith on his show to respond to all
of this Zionist backlash that he was receiving for having a conversation with Nick Fuentes.
And foremost, Tucker explains why he had the conversation with Nick Fuentes. Take a listen. I
didn't make Nick Fuentes hardly. I just want to know what this is about. And I wanted to make the
point that I often make and now seems even more important than it ever has, which is that virtue
and sin are not transmitted genetically. There is no such thing as blood guilt. Therefore,
collective punishment is always immoral. God created each person individually. He did
not create communities at once. He created this theology one is and all of us will die and in the
end face God alone. So it's about the person and people can be changed by God by the way. And the
New Testament is that story of people who were in the case of the whole hero of the New Testament.
The human hero was a guy called Paul was murdering Christians as a Pharisee and then becomes the
greatest proitizer in the history of Christianity and my personal hero. are like don't tell me
that people can't be changed because of their blood. Now that is the basis that position is the
basis of western civilization. We often talk about western civilization and we're all defending
western civil Israel is defending western civilization. Israel does not have a western
position on this question. The Israeli position, not of all Israelis by the way, and certainly
not of all Jews, but I'm saying of the Israeli government and of a couple of its ministers,
which they say this out loud all the time, is that everybody who's related to a terrorist
shares in his guilt. That's collective punishment. It is blood guilt. And it's anothetical to
Christianity and to the West. And so for me, and by the way, Israel is not the only country
that does this. Most countries do this. Literally, most countries do this. all of Asia, India. This
is like an intuitive response that people have. Okay. So that I actually introduced that wrong.
That's Tucker just giving the broader theological delivering the broader theological point which is
important that people have the capacity to change. And actually we're kind of in this weird psychosis
as a society. And I would say that this is kind of one of the things they're trying to deliver to
us is that some people are just deplorable. Like everything about them is just so deplorable. We
have to throw them away. And that's what creates these sort of movements. People are just tired
of it. They're just tired of this. This is not the way that Christians think. Actually, we
very much don't live in a Christian society because we live in a Christian Zionist society.
And Christian Zionism is a it's a paradox. Okay? It's there's no such thing as Christian Zionism
because Zion Zionism is all about identity, right? It's all about identity. Because I am
a Jew, I therefore have a right to this land. Because they are Jews and I am a Christian. I
recognize that I'm going to get into heaven if I just worship how BBNet and Yahoo even if when
he kills tens of thousands of kids. That is a political ideology. It is not a religion and it is
dangerous and is wrong and it is it is backwards and it is of course antithetical to the Bible. Now
Tucker then explains specifically why he chose to have a conversation with Nick Fuentes. Take a
listen. You should be forgiving always. Things are being said right now that almost seem like
they can't be forgiven. They're so they're they're exhortations to violence. Clearly they are, etc.,
etc. Slander of a kind that's so severe. Like, how do you get past that? I think we should force
ourselves. I interviewed Nick Fuentes who attacked my wife and my son and my dad. Can't take my dad.
And I interviewed him anyway. I choked it back and I thought to myself, I'm just I want to hear this
and I'm just going to make we I try to make myself do that. So if tomorrow John Putarts is like
or whomever I'm mad at, right, people I used to know who are calling me a Nazi is like, you know
what, I don't I don't think he's actually a Nazi, like let's have a real conversation. Let's do the
best for America. They should all be accepted. I don't think we should have permanent enemies who
are American citizens. I don't because I think the whole idea of it is we're united by citizenship,
our common Americanness. Everybody's welcome, even if we hated each other 20 minutes ago. And Glenn
Greenwald, I mean, I hated Glenn Greenwald. Now I think he's one of my favorite people in the world,
not just monthly but personally. Like forgiveness is essential. People change. Allow for that. Don't
draw permanent lines in the sand where it's like I hate you and I will hate your son too. Like
that's non-western thinking. We don't allow that. I want you to really consider you listen to
Tucker's perspectives and what's guiding his perspectives and then go backwards and listen
to like Mark Levin and these people that get on their platforms and call him irredeemable and you
realize there's a different spirit moving within these within these groups, right? And he is what
Christianity is, right? It's about forgiveness. It's about when you're angry, not assuming that
there's some like blood oath that you need to honor, but saying, "You know what? Nick Fuentes
says something crappy things about me and I'm going to speak to him." I did the same thing. I
was like the bigger person, hosted him. And he was, by the way, still a jerk. Uh, but this idea
that he shouldn't have a platform. He shouldn't be allowed to speak. He shouldn't be allowed to
think. He shouldn't be allowed to breathe. What is that from? What is your faith? Don't You're
definitely not going to convince me that that's the first five books of the Bible. Okay, I know
what your faith is. It's Zionism, okay? You guys behave like gangsters. You behave like you are
only loyal to one another and you'll come beat up any person figuratively. Um, you'll take care
of any person that gets in your way. And the world can see that now. So, what's your next move to
just keep doing this? To just keep behaving like this? And just know that every act that you make,
every show, everything that you make go viral with you speaking in the way that you speak and then
people get to hear Tucker, he gets bigger and you get smaller. Okay. He gets bigger. Our ideas get
bigger. Your ideas get smaller because people can perceive the nastiness that's guiding it and
they want nothing to do with it. Okay. Now, um I'm going to take a brief break because I
know that you guys have a lot of comments and we also have book club tonight and we're going to
get deeper by the way into that sort of guiding theology uh when we get back into the Sigman
Freud book because it really really connects dots for you, right? What that guiding philosophy
comes from is actually a psychology. it is a psychology and he's the father of it as they call
him the father of modern psychology and so really stepping back into time and understanding what was
happening at the turn of the 19th century across Europe why so many speech laws have been passed
in Europe uh kind of Christians in the way that we're doing right now waking up and going what
is the guiding philosophy of these people that seem like they hate us like they're trying to
to abuse like what what have we done wrong to be treated like this this book is really an aha
moment and I'm excited for the book club. I'm excited and I understand why Zionist infiltrated
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to start pulling the top comment that makes me chuckle. There were a couple of them yesterday,
but this one we regarding Cash Patel's tweet calling his girlfriend a sensational country
singer. It was so weird. This user wrote, Cheryl writes, "After hearing Cash Patel's tweet, I'm
90% sure he's the one that wrote Tyler's message to his furry lover." Absolutely. You are correct.
It's now a fact. It's now a fact. Just kidding, but I loved that comment. All right, comment from
today's episode. Laughing cats music world writes, "I keep thinking about George Zinn. I know he
was a habitual Salt Lake City event disruptor, but what are the chances his reflex is to take
the blame voluntarily?" Voluntarily. I guess it's possible, but wow. crazy split decision to make,
right? Not even a hesitation. I I told you guys that we had a source leak to us. He went to the
hospital. He went to Utah Valley Hospital uh after this event to treat some of his like mild injuries
from being dragged and he told people that he was told to do it and he was paid to do it and but he
didn't know where the payment was coming from. So, yeah, this was this entire thing was just an
operation. Like I said, uh Brandon Hansen writes, "Been a lifelong Israel supporter. Recently,
I've come to not like BB, but I still love the land where the Lord was born, a Zionist who
dislikes Netanyahu. Curious how you feel about that love from Maine. It at least makes me happy
to hear you acknowledge that there's a demon. I don't It's It's the strangest thing to me when
these people are treating BBNet and Yahoo like he is their Christ. And that is what makes it a
disgusting heresy, right? like to misinterpret the Bible so much that you're basically platforming
and honoring what BB Netanyahu does, avoiding the topic, not acknowledging that what he's doing
to the Palestinians is wrong. Um, having love for Jerusalem, that makes sense. Having love
uh for to to be able to walk in Jerusalem and to see the relics, that all makes sense to me.
And I think I'm just more disgusted by people who turn a blind eye to everything that's happened
to the Palestinians. It just makes me sick. and to see him on camera acting like such a gangster and
that and people pretending that he's holy or that there's ever even a a shred of documented proof
that these people are the original people from the Holy Land is crazy. There's way more uh proof
to the contrary which they stopped printing even their own textbooks which they've stopped printing
that point to the fact that they came from Turkey the Turk Ashkenaz tribe uh that came down began
speaking Yiddish and then needed a place to go after World War II. It's crazy to me. The whole
thing's crazy. Again, I would debate anybody on that topic. Um, definitely feeling especially
fired up about it. A Smoky Mountain Kitty writes, "Always trust your gut. Our brain takes in far
more information than we are aware of. I love your show and all that you do." Thank you so
much. Uh, Beck Build writes, "So glad Charlie had you." On another topic, dinosaurs. Hundreds of
Bible believing PhD scientists have evidence that dinosaurs are real. Killed during the global flood
of Genesis. The Institute for Creation Research. answers in Genesis and creation. Okay guys, I'm
sorry. Nope. Sorry. And this is going to get I bet you the people that are going through my book
club by the end of this you're going to see that there was a conscious movement as I said at the
end at the turn of the century same time they started going oh we found dinosaur uh bone to
and then you get into like the research of you come from an oralopythecus and they describe
this as like oh suddenly science was peing and actually what was happening is they wanted to
make people invest in scientism that's a CS Lewis perspective. He writes about that in one of his
books where they wanted to turn science into God and as long as they say there's an expert, there's
research experts say that people would fall into line and that's what we see happening. So, I can't
do a deep dive on the dinosaur thing right now, but the book club, we're going to go there
eventually. And I just can I don't know. I just I see a bigger picture, a broader picture
now. removing the Bibles from classrooms, teaching people that they're homo sapiens and they started
walking straight, but also the monkeys are still here. It was very methodical and yeah, broader
conversation to have. I can't wait for that clip to go viral. By the way, like I care like I
also don't believe the moon landings happened, so you can cut that clip because they didn't happen.
That's crazy. More scientism. Anyways, Smokey, I'm sorry. Christine writes, "Loyalty is rare. Christ
is king. Indeed, he is." Beth Mitchum writes, "So we give Israel billions. People who support Israel
give Apac money to give our government uh to give to our government to vote the way Israel wants.
So my tax money pays for Israeli ideas. We pay Congress twice. Can you say moneyaundering?" Uh
yeah, that's what it feels like for sure. We give our tax dollars, they go overseas, and then they
yell at us for paying attention to what they're doing overseas and then call us anti-Semitic. This
is like the worst deal ever. I' I'd like that deal to be undone, and it certainly isn't going to be
undone in this administration. That's for sure. Jennifer K writes just asked Grock if Israel and
Egypt coordinate on intelligence ops. It says yes, calling their cooperation unprecedented. Uh
since the 1979 peace treaty, intel chiefs have met often, share real-time data. Honestly,
few countries make more sense working together. Yeah. Uh country A that gets most of our money
is Israel, B is Egypt, and there is a reason for that. It's so it doesn't look like it's all going
to Israel. That's my perspective. Darth Phantom writes, "Citizens have and I would say since
the 1967 war, do you think that they would let Israel control the SNI peninsula?" Anyways,
more on that later. Darth Phantom writes, "itizens have always paid taxes to finally
be able to retire and the thanks that we get uh for this is they raise the age on us to retire
and we all obey like idiots. Am I the only one angered about this?" Yeah, it's all coming apart.
We're realizing it's all one big scam. It's all usery. uh and it is a sin and everything that's
happening into our in our country, our culture, the corrosion. I think it's because America has
married to Zionism. Like I I truly do believe that and I think a lot of people are waking up
to that. We were a better country when we were a Christian nation. We are no longer a Christian
nation. We are an occupied nation with an ideology that has produced filth in our culture. Uh Miranda
writes, "Hi Candace, I'm 23 and I should be clear, a political ideology dressed up as a religion and
a faith." Miranda writes, "Can I'm 23 and newly married. We just found out that I'm pregnant.
Congratulations. I'm nervous, but I know children are God's blessing. Do you have any advice for me
as a young mother? Is it okay to be nervous?" My advice would be not to take advice. It is going
to be the most natural job that you have. You are going to just know what to do when you see the
baby. Um, and it will make you a better person because you will be so tapped into God's creation.
You will realize that there is something more. It is one of the sins in the culture that kind
of trained us to have children later is that we don't tap into our divine purpose and children
immediately have you tap into your divine purpose. You feel more wholesome uh more confident.
I became a more confident person when I had children because I suddenly realized what matters
and what doesn't matter. And that's why I fight like hell for truth because it matters, right?
my investment is that I have children and my silence is essentially cowardice. That would gar
guarantee that their future would be compromised, could be more compromised than our lives are
right now right now. Uh lastly, real light worker writes, "Have you looked into events going
on at UVU that day? A college student posted an FB real of her experience? She ran into a building
where the room was filled with uniformed people and a bunch of different flags. Who were they?
That's the Hall of Flags that's behind Charlie's head. And I do find something suspicious was
going on there. I've never gotten clarity, but that's where notoriously the person who filmed
the footage, the only footage um that we have of of the uh person running across who they say is
the shooter running across uh the Lozi Center. So yeah, look, we are investigating every day with
more information. Tomorrow we will have uh more explosive information and revelations about the
Egyptian plane, which so interesting. Speaking of the unique relationship between Egypt and
Israel, Tik Tok is hitting us for videos talking about the Egyptian planes. That's very strange.
Israel's moderator served in the IDF, we know, and they BB wants Tik Tok secured for Israel's
future. Why do they care about Egyptian planes that were there? It's kind of coming together.
There's a picture here that's coming together. Anyways, you guys, we have to jump off because we
do have book club tonight. So, I will see you guys in the Zionist infiltration on our book club. We
finally did it, guys. We went viral and they're stealing clips from behind the payw wall. Uh, if
you guys would like to support our work, you know, you can go to kandiswowens.com. You can go to
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