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Subscribe on YouTubeLieutenant Colonel Stuart Scheller Leads Charge to Confirm Pete Hegseth as Secretary of Defense
Lieutenant Colonel Stuart Scheller, the Marine Corps officer who was court-martialed and imprisoned after publicly demanding accountability for the Afghanistan withdrawal, is now leading the effort to confirm Pete Hegseth as Secretary of Defense. Scheller argues that the warrior class overwhelmingly supports Hegseth because he represents an outside establishment pick who can break the stranglehold of the military-industrial complex. Having gathered petitions from Navy SEALs, Green Berets, and veterans groups representing thousands of signatures, Scheller is meeting with senators on Capitol Hill to make the case that the current system of self-pleasing general officers who navigate bureaucracy for 40 years has failed America. He believes Pete Hegseth can implement a performance-based system focused on lethality and winning, rather than the status quo that has produced declining recruitment rates and diminished war-fighting capability under leaders like Lloyd Austin.
A Marine's Journey from Court-Martial to Capitol Hill
Lieutenant Colonel Stuart Scheller served as a United States Marine Corps officer in Iraq and Afghanistan during the Global War on Terror, the same conflicts where Pete Hegseth fought. With a master's degree in military science and a career spent studying foreign policy, Scheller witnessed what he describes as a long list of mistakes during the Afghanistan withdrawal on August 26, 2021.
On that day, Scheller made a video in his uniform demanding accountability from senior military leaders. He deliberately avoided mentioning any politicians, believing that holding senior military officers accountable would be one of the last apolitical issues Americans could agree upon. However, the media immediately framed his statement as criticism of President Biden, thrusting him into what he describes as the hyper-political stratosphere.
The consequences were swift and severe. Scheller was fired the next day, later given a gag order, imprisoned in solitary confinement, court-martialed, and ultimately drummed out of the military short of his retirement. The entire process took six months, during which he made no interviews while the media, in his view, slandered him. The Marine Corps released his medical records to an outlet called Task and Purpose, with articles comparing him to Hitler and labeling him a white supremacist.
The Cardinal Sin: Making Your Bosses Look Bad
After making his accountability video, Scheller was told that if he simply shut his mouth, a general would take care of him. The best-case scenario offered was being hidden in a cubicle making PowerPoint presentations for some general officer for three years until he could limp toward retirement. Scheller knew he couldn't live that way, and more importantly, he believed every word of his original statements.
What deeply bothered him was that no one was addressing the content of his statements. The cardinal sin in the military, as Scheller learned, is making your bosses look bad. An investigation should have taken place, but instead, he was immediately fired and eventually released from service on Christmas Eve, 2021.
Meeting Pete Hegseth and Entering the Media Circuit
After his release, Scheller hit the media circuit for the first time, appearing on Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly, Laura Ingraham, Jocko's podcast, and the PBD podcast. One of those appearances was on Fox and Friends with Pete Hegseth. He later did another segment with Hegseth to promote his book, and Hegseth brought him to Tennessee for a one-hour in-person segment called Modern Warriors. Notably, Mike Waltz, the incoming National Security Advisor, was one of the five people featured on that show.
Scheller describes Hegseth as a down-to-earth guy in whom he sees himself. He believes this is why all the warriors are rallying around Hegseth's nomination. After writing his book and doing media for two years, everyone wanted Scheller to go into politics, but he insists he's not a politician. He's always loved the military and been focused on making it stronger. He started a business and stepped back from public life until Hegseth received the nomination for Secretary of Defense and anonymous sources began attacking him. That's when Scheller felt compelled to get involved.
The Warrior Class Overwhelmingly Supports Pete Hegseth
Scheller's first step was gauging the pulse of the military community. He contacted approximately 50 influential military figures, including Scott Mann from Operation Pineapple, Matthew Lohmeier who asked President Trump a question, the Black Rifle Coffee guys, Eddie Gallagher, and many others. Not a single one failed to overwhelmingly support Pete Hegseth.
He also spoke with the congressmen he respects most, including Brian Mast and Cory Mills—actual warriors of this generation—and they all support Hegseth. Once Scheller realized the pulse of the community absolutely wanted Hegseth, he needed to figure out how to unify this voice.
Scheller gathered multiple petitions from various groups: a Navy SEAL petition with over 3,000 signatures, a Heritage Foundation petition, a Green Beret petition, and a Vets for Pete petition. He planned to meet with U.S. senators and their staffs on Capitol Hill, with at least 10 meetings scheduled for Wednesday. One meeting was with Senator Ricketts' office, who chairs the Senate Armed Services Committee, to whom Scheller planned to hand these petitions and explain the warrior class's position.
Why Veterans Want Pete Hegseth: An Outside Establishment Pick
Pete Hegseth is obviously a smart guy—Princeton and Harvard educated, a great orator on Fox and Friends. But the reason veterans want him so badly, according to Scheller, is because he's an outside establishment pick. Not only is he a combat veteran from their generation, but the last two general officers who served as Secretary of Defense have literally gone from the board of the military-industrial complex to Secretary of Defense and then back.
Lloyd Austin is with Raytheon, James Mattis was with General Dynamics, and Joseph Dunford was with Lockheed Martin. The ties to the military-industrial complex represent a real problem. Even more concerning, these senior military leaders who get selected protect the status quo because their authority comes from navigating the current system. The current system is what needs to be overhauled, and that's why someone like Pete Hegseth is so important.
The Distinction Between Warriors and Highly Credentialed Generals
When Scheller made his video demanding accountability, he was relieved of his post because he did not feel the military was a mighty fighting force up against the enemies that wish to kill Americans. In his video, he pointed out that there was a Secretary of Defense who testified to Congress in May that the Afghan National Security Force could withstand the Taliban advance. There was a Chairman of the Joint Chiefs who was supposed to advise on military policy, and a Marine combatant commander—all of these people were supposed to advise.
Scheller wasn't saying America had to be in Afghanistan forever, but he asked: Did any of these leaders throw their rank on the table and say it's a bad idea to evacuate Bagram Airfield, the strategic air base, before evacuating everyone? And when they didn't think to do that, did anyone raise their hand and say they completely messed up? From his position, potentially all those people died in vain if senior leaders don't own up and raise their hands to acknowledge they did not do this well.
What Pete Hegseth Can Do as Secretary of Defense
There are many people advocating to get rid of woke generals, and Scheller believes there are plenty of generals that need to be cleaned out. Historical precedent exists with George Marshall after World War I. However, just going after wokeism is actually attacking the symptom, not the root cause.
The root cause is that general officers—it takes 40 years to make a four-star general—receive subjective evaluations throughout their entire careers. Every officer is trying to please their boss and get a higher evaluation than their four peers. So the people who become four-star generals have literally pleased their boss for 40 years more than all of their peers competing for the same jobs.
It should be based on the best performers, but pleasing your boss and being the best performer diverge at certain places in a career. Anyone who has worked in a bureaucracy understands this. The reason wokeism is so prevalent is partly because of moves President Obama made, but more importantly, general officers are so fickle they care most about self-advancement and will do whatever is the topic du jour. They have no backbone.
Scheller points to the example of Carter Ham, who was in Germany when Benghazi took place. Ham was watching on screens as Americans fought outnumbered 1,000 to 1. He had eight military options and was told to stand down—and he did, because he was conditioned to please his boss. That's what all general officers do.
What Pete Hegseth needs to do, according to Scheller, is get into the military, clean out much of the archaic leadership, and then implement a performance-based system. At the end of the day, if you have the best performer—if one infantry officer goes against another infantry officer and the best one wins whatever that competition is—then all other things go away because the focus of the military should always be on lethality and winning.
How America Got Away from Lethality and Winning
The last generation that won a war was World War II, and America didn't have the National Security establishment then. World War II is when the nation literally built the National Security establishment that exists today. It went through the National Security Act of 1944, 1947, and 1950, and then it was finally structured into what exists now through the Goldwater-Nichols Act after Vietnam.
Where America really went off the rails was Vietnam. Korea was still fought by a generation of World War II veterans, and the rigid structure of the current Department of Defense was not in place yet. What happened was the creation of the military-industrial complex and a system of officers that are self-pleasing.
In Vietnam, after the loss, instead of going back and holding general officers accountable, the military let the general officers sing the song that it was the draft, the drugs, and the junior service members. What really happened was the empowerment of generals who failed. At Khe Sanh, where hundreds of thousands of lives were lost, a location was strategically important one year and then not the next year. These were huge failures for which no general officers were held accountable.
The My Lai Massacre in Vietnam resulted in only company-grade officers being held accountable—no general officers. Somewhere along the way, starting with Vietnam, the military stopped holding general officers accountable, and America needs to get back to that. Scheller believes this is a breath of fresh air with President Trump and Pete Hegseth.
The Mystery of the East Coast Drones
When asked about the drones appearing on the East Coast of the United States, Scheller stated there are only a few things the drones would be doing in the middle of the night. He believes the government absolutely knows what's going on because America has such a robust capability. First of all, they know what's happening; second, what they are doing is the deeper question.
His best guess is some type of chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear (CBRN) detection system, or they're testing capabilities. What's disheartening is that the government and John Kirby are not being transparent about it. Scheller thinks it's another headshake in a long list of things that don't make sense. The American people probably deserve answers, especially with the coverage this is getting, but his position is that it's the government.
If it is the government, what would they possibly be doing? There are only a couple of reasons: one would be a training operation, two would be looking for somebody (though you probably wouldn't do that at night), or three, using a different type of detection capability to try and find something like a CBRN capability. If they're actually employing it, that would be his best guess. Or they're gauging the temperature of the American people and what the reactions would be. But this is absolutely something the government knows about.
The Path to Confirmation and How to Help
Scheller believes Pete Hegseth will be confirmed. Three senators are on the fence, and he thinks Joni Ernst is coming around. Looking back at Secretary Austin's confirmation, there were only two votes against him, one of them from Josh Hawley. Right now, Republicans are sitting at 53 votes and can't afford to lose a single one. For all the Republicans who voted for Lloyd Austin—who was maybe one of the worst secretaries of defense America has had in a long time—resetting the military is critical.
Recruiting rates are down significantly, and war-fighting capability is down significantly. America needs a disruptor like Pete Hegseth. To support him, people can go to AuthenticAmericans.com, which has a petition, or find one of the petitions floating around on X (formerly Twitter). All of those will make their way to Scheller.
At the end of the day, Americans should call their senators and let them know they support Pete Hegseth. The American people need Pete Hegseth, and any senator who stands in the way—especially if they're a Republican who voted for Lloyd Austin—will face a primary challenge.
Video Transcript
joining us now is Lieutenant Colonel
Stuart sheller honored to have him on
the program who is leading a charge to
help confirm Pete
hegseth great to see you sir thank you
for taking the time please introduce uh
your background on how you first met
Pete hegseth and why you're so
passionate for his
confirmation yeah absolutely thanks for
having me on I'm a lieutenant colonel
from the United States Marine Corps
served in Iraq and Afghanistan combat
vet um you know my whole life has been
serving this country over the gwatt
generation the same same Wars that Pete
hexat fought in I got out under weird
circumstances on August 26 20021 during
the Afghanistan withdrawal there was
just a long list of mistakes that I saw
you know I've got a MERS in military
science I've been studying foreign
policy my whole career and it was just
obvious the mistakes that were happening
and I had been playing the game long
enough to know that no one was going to
be held accountable so I made a video in
my uniform demanding accountability of
my senior military leaders and at the
time I didn't mention any politician and
it wasn't political I thought holding
senior military leaders accountable
would be like one of the last apolitical
things we could all agree upon but when
you get thrust into the stratosphere of
these types of things you know it's just
it's uh it's hyper poitical and and
that's kind of what happened every
headline was Lieutenant Colonel Scher
criticizes President Biden when at the
time I wasn't saying anything about
President Biden I was just sick of you
know the apathy and the lack of
accountability in the senior military
ranks well after that I was fired later
given a gag order imprisoned in solitary
confinement court marshaled and drummed
out of the military short of my
retirement that was a six-month process
it didn't happen quickly and I didn't
make a single interview during that
whole process meanwhile the the media
was slandering me I mean the Marine
Corps released my medical records to an
article called task and purpose and it
was I mean they were comparing me to all
these things that the classic Hitler
white supremist all all the things that
you know the left will try and do and at
the time I wasn't even familiar with all
that because I was just a marine wanted
to serve my country I was like thrown in
the fire of getting a PhD in in
left-wing political tactics so I got out
uh Christmas Eve 20121 and then I hit
the mil the media circuit for the first
time and I did all the shows I did
Tucker Carlson Megan Kelly Laura Ingram
joo's podcast I went on the pbd podcast
but one of them was Pete hexes so I did
a fox and friends hit with him and then
I ended up writing a book and when the
book came out I went out and promoted
did another hit with Pete and then he
actually brought me to Tennessee to do a
one our in-person segment called modern
Warriors and uh actually Waltz the the
incoming National Security advisor was
one of the the five people so it's kind
of an interesting show and you go back
and look at that now of all the picks
but Pete's just to me always been one of
those downto Earth guys I feel like in a
lot of ways I I see myself in him and I
think that's why all the Warriors are
rallying around him and so you know
after I wrote my book I did media for
another two years everyone wanted me to
go into politics and I I'm just not a
politician I've I've always loved the
military and been focused on wanting to
make the military stronger and I kind of
just went out and started living life
started a business and dropped out a
little bit and it wasn't until Pete got
the nomination and everyone started
attacking and cancelling him with the
anonymous sources that I felt the need
to to get
involved so uh how have those meetings
been going and what exactly are you are
you doing to help uh Lobby people on
Capitol Hill for Pete
Heth yeah the the takeaway is bottom
line the warrior class overwhelmingly
wants Pete hex I mean I called everyone
I mean if you remember Scott man the
operation pineapple guy if you remember
Matthew L who asked the question of
President Trump um I've talked to all
these guys on the phone the Black Rifle
coffee guys uh Eddie Gallagher I mean
list goes on and on I I've talked to
probably 50 influential military
influencers not a single one doesn't
overwhelmingly support Pete hex I've
spoken to the congressmen that I respect
the most whether it's uh Mast uh Mills
these actual Warriors of Our Generation
they all support Pete Heth and so first
step was making sure that I could get
the pulse of the community and once I
realized that the pul of the community
absolutely wanted him I had to figure
out how I could uh you know unify this
voice so what I've done is I've uh
gathered up all the petitions out there
because there's a Navy SEAL petition
with over 3,000 signatures there's a
Heritage Foundation petition there's a
Green Beret petition there's a vets for
Pete uh petition so I've gathered gaed
all of these up and then I plan to go up
to Capitol Hill on Wednesday and meet
with US senators and their staffs that
are willing to to talk to me so I've got
at least 10 meetings on Wednesday which
is huge and you know you know one of
them like Rickett's office who's meeting
with us he's the uh chair of the Senate
Armed Forces Committee being able to
hand him these petitions and and tell
him exactly what I'm telling you you
know Pete Heth is obviously a smart guy
Princeton Harvard great orator on Fox
and FRS but the reason that veterans
wanton him so bad is because he's an out
side establishment pick not only is a
combat veteran from our generation but
you know the last two general officers
have literally gone from the board of
the military industrial complex the SE
Def and then they go back you know
Austin is Ron Mattis was General
Dynamics Dunford loed Martin I mean it's
the the tithes of the
military-industrial complex is a real
problem but even more so these senior
military leaders that get selected they
protect the status quo why because their
Authority comes from navigating the
current system and the current system is
what needs overhauled and that's why I
think someone like Pete hex is so
important so can you add more to that
distinction of the warrior class versus
the highly credentialed General class
one of the reasons you made the video
you did at the time and I want to play
that video here um this is cut 23 when
you were relieved of your post is that
you did not feel as if we were a a
mighty fighting fighting force up
against um the enemies that wish to kill
us play Cut
23 we have a secretary of defense that
testified to Congress in May that the
Afghan National Security Force could
withstand the Taliban Advance we have
chairman of joint Chief who the common
is a member of that who's supposed to
advise on military policy we have a
marine combatant
Commander all of these people are
supposed to advise and I'm not saying
we've got to be in the in Afghanistan
forever but I am saying did any of you
throw your rank on the table and say hey
it's a bad idea to evacuate bogam
Airfield the Strategic Air berries
before we evacuate everyone did anyone
do that and when you didn't think to do
that did anyone raise their hand and say
we completely messed this up and from my
position potentially all those people
did die in vain if we don't have senior
leaders that own up and and raise their
hand and say we did not do this well in
the
end what what what happened after you
made that video
it got real weird Charlie after I made
that video I was fired the next day
immediately you know I knew that I was
risking my career if you watch that
video in its entirety like I call the
shot I say I know I'm risking my career
my retirement my family stability it did
end up losing really all three of those
things but there should have been an
investigation that took place but like I
told you I was shot right into the
political realm the cardinal sin and the
military is making your bosses look bad
so I was fired immediately and I was
told at that time that if I just shut my
mouth that the general would take care
of me so the best case scenario I would
be hidden in a cubicle and make
PowerPoints for the some general officer
for the next three years limping towards
my retirement and I just knew I couldn't
live my life that way number one and
number two I fully believed all those
comments I made and no one was
addressing the content of my statements
and that's what really deeply bothered
me so it became this fight you know and
and I continued to fight all the way to
the
end so if pan Heth is to be confirmed as
Secretary of Defense what can he do from
a policy perspective to better prepare
the American Military to fight our
enemies yep so Matthew L uh there's a
lot of people out there advocating to
get rid of woke generals and I think
there's a lot of generals that need to
get cleaned out historical precedence
for George Marshall after World War I is
probably the best example that being
said just going after wokeism is
actually attacking the symptom not the
root cause the root cause is that you
have General offic officers that it
takes 40 years to make a four-star
general every evaluation for an officer
in the military is a subjective
evaluation I.E I'm trying to please my
boss and get a higher evaluation than my
four peers and so the people that are
fourstar generals have literally pleased
their boss for 40 years more so than all
of their peers that are competing for
the same jobs and I'll tell you what it
should be based on the best performers
but pleasing your boss and being the
best performer diverg at certain places
of your career anyone that's worked at a
bureaucracy understands this and so the
reason why wokeism is so prevalent one
because some of the moves that President
Obama to made but two more importantly
the general officers are so fickle they
care most about self-advancement and
they'll do whatever is the topic dour
and they have no backbone I mean when
Carter ham was in Germany and Benghazi
took place and he was watching on
screens Americans fighting 1 v1000 and
he had eight military options and he was
told to stand down and he did why
because he's conditioned to please his
boss and that's what all General
officers do I think what Pete Heth needs
to do is he needs to get into the
military he needs to clean out a lot of
the archaic leadership but then he needs
to implement a performance-based system
because at the end of the day if you've
got the best performer if I as an
infantry officer go against another
infantry officer and the best one wins
and whatever that competition is then
all other things uh go away because the
focus of the military should always be
on lethality and
winning yeah just a minute remaining I
want to keep you for another segment and
so how how did we get away from
lethality winning destroying the enemy
What specifically what year what period
of time did that start to
change uh you know you can look back to
the last generation that won a war it
was World War II and we didn't have the
National Security establishment then
World War II is when we literally built
the National Security establishment that
we have today it went through the
National Security Act of 44 47 50 and
then it finally what uh structured what
we have now is the Goldwater nickels Act
after Vietnam where we really went off
the rails was Vietnam I mean Korea was
still a generation of World War II vets
and the the rigid structure of the
current DOD was not in place yet what
happened was we created this
military-industrial complex we created
this system of officers that are
self-pleasing and in Vietnam what we did
after our loss instead of going back and
holding the general officers accountable
we let the general officer sing the song
that it was the draft and the drugs and
it was the junior service member and
what we really did was we empowered
these General that failed I mean if you
go look at someone like kesan where we
lost hundreds of thousands of lives and
then it was strategically important one
year and then not the next year I mean
these are huge failures that no General
officers were held accountable the the
massacre in Vietnam mili Massacre if you
look at that only company great officers
were held accountable no General officer
so somewhere along the way starting with
Vietnam stopped holding General officers
accountable and we need to get back to
that and I think this is such a breath
of fresh air we're talking about
President Trump and Pete heeg said
tenant what is going on with these
drones uh on the east coast of the
United States right
now yeah there's only a few things that
the drones would be up there for and at
the middle of the night it really
dwindles it down so I'll start with it's
the government absolutely knows what's
going on we have such a robust
capability uh that first of all they
know what's going on second of all what
they are doing is really the deeper
question um the best guess that I can
come up with is it some type of seab
chemical biological radiological nuclear
detection system
or they're just testing capabilities but
it is disheartening that the government
John Kirby no one is being transparent
about it I think it's just
another another headshake in the long
list of uh things that don't make sense
We the People probably deserve answers
especially with the coverage this is
getting but my position is that it's the
government yeah and so if it is the
government what what would they possibly
be doing sending drones in the sky to
surveil us be looking for
something yeah like I said there's only
a couple reasons you would do it one
would be a training op two would be
you're looking for somebody which you
probably wouldn't do at night um or
three you're using a different type of
detection capability to try and find
something like a Seaburn uh capability
so if they're actually employing it that
would be my best guess um or or they're
just gauging the temperature of the
American people and what the reactions
would be but this is absolutely
something the government knows what's
going on
going back to our original topic here uh
in closing do you believe Pete Heth will
be confirmed and how can our audience
help I believe Pete Heth will be
confirmed we have you know the three
Senators that are on the fence I think
Janie Ernst is coming coming around you
know I look back at secretary Austin and
there was only two votes for no against
him one of them was Josh Holly and I'll
tell you what right now Republicans
sitting at 53 votes uh we can't afford
to lose a single one and for all the
Republicans that voted for Lloyd Austin
he was maybe one of the worst
secretaries of defense we've had in a
long time resetting the military is
critical recruiting rates down uh
significantly War fighting capability
down significantly we need a disruptor
we need someone like Pete he that if you
want to support him you can go to my
website authentic americans. comom we
have a petition or you can find one of
the petitions floating around on X all
of those will make their way to me and
at the end of the day call your Senator
please call your Senator and let them
know that you support Pete Heth we the
people need Pete heg
said uh yes we do uh and any Senator
that stands in the way that's a
republican uh will face a primary
challenge especially if they voted for
Lloyd Austin thank you so much uh God
bless you sir thank you