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Charlie Kirk is the Founder and President of Turning Point USA, the largest and fastest growing conservative youth activist organization in the country with over 250,000 student members, over 150 full-time staff, and a presence on over 2,000 high school and college campuses nationwide. Charlie is also the Chairman of Students for Trump, which aims to activate one million new college voters on campuses in battleground states in the lead up to the 2020 presidential election. His social media reaches over 100 million people per month and according to Axios, he is one of the "top 10 most engaged" Twitter handles in the world. He is also the host of “The Charlie Kirk Show,” which regularly ranks among the top news shows on Apple podcast charts.
Subscribe on YouTubeCharlie Kirk's Team Navigates Iran Crisis After Ayatollah's Death and Operation Midnight Hammer
Charlie Kirk's team reflects on their emergency livestream covering the Iran military strikes that killed the Ayatollah and 49 IRGC leaders. Drawing on their experience with Charlie during Operation Midnight Hammer, they examine President Trump's precision strikes, the debate over regime change versus targeted leadership removal, and Charlie's consistent reluctance about Middle East wars balanced against his trust in Trump's judgment. Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth insists this is not another Iraq, while the team emphasizes humility about unknown outcomes, prayers for troops, and hope this could be the last Middle East war America fights.
An Emergency Response to Unfolding Events
The weekend proved eventful as Charlie Kirk's team conducted an emergency livestream on Saturday, drawing tens of thousands of viewers. In Charlie's absence, the team worked to honor what he would say in such situations, drawing on their experience walking alongside him during the summer strikes and Operation Midnight Hammer. They witnessed firsthand how Charlie deliberated through tough decisions, navigated difficult backroom calls and private conversations, and then communicated publicly.
The team acknowledged the fundamental uncertainty surrounding the situation: no one knows how this will ultimately turn out, whether it will be judged a success or failure by history. What has been clear is the precision and lethality of the US military on full display. President Trump indicated they are ahead of schedule, especially regarding targeting the leadership of the IRGC. The Ayatollah is dead, a fact that emerged after their Saturday stream concluded, along with 49 other members of Iran's leadership structure.
The Leadership Vacuum in Iran
President Trump revealed that strikes have been so successful that there's no obvious successor at this point. This was initially misinterpreted by some who thought the US had killed its own candidates to replace Iranian leaders. In reality, Trump was referring to the hostile leadership itself. There had been suspicion about who would be selected if the Supreme Leader was killed. Another Supreme Leader was briefly installed for 22 hours before he too was killed.
The ultimate succession plan remains unclear. Trump's comments suggest this is not a regime change war in the traditional sense. These are targeted air strikes to take out the leadership and allow the people of Iran to choose the next leader. The team emphasized their reluctance about regime change wars and the use of kinetic force in this region, especially against a country as large and strong as Iran. The unintended consequences are sure to be extreme.
Charlie's Competing Impulses
The team explained why they continue to invoke Charlie's perspective: people looked to him as a leader in the movement, someone with wise perspectives who wasn't under anyone else's control. He could be frank and honest. They're trying to maintain that voice so people have that guidance.
Charlie would have had two competing impulses. As a millennial, he was shaped by Iraq and Afghanistan, two wars that looked easy at the start but went on longer and cost more than expected, ending in failure or at best mixed results. This shaped his attitude toward intervention. The competing impulse was his support for President Trump and trust in Trump's judgment on international affairs, combined with his American patriotism. His perspective would have been: he was hesitant about this, but he trusted the president's judgment and believed Trump must have good reasons and a plan to prevent endless escalation.
Over and over, Charlie said the reason he fought so hard for President Trump was for moments exactly like this.
This Is Not Iraq, Says Secretary Hegseth
Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth addressed concerns about endless wars in his press conference with General Kaine. He directly confronted critics: "To the media outlets and political left screaming endless wars. Stop. This is not Iraq. This is not endless. I was there for both. Our generation knows better and so does this president. He called the last 20 years of nation building wars dumb. And he's right. This is the opposite. This operation is a clear, devastating, decisive mission. Destroy the missile threat. Destroy the Navy. No nukes."
Hegseth outlined the strategic operational objectives and explained the "why" behind the mission: "Iran's stubborn and self-evident nuclear pursuits, their targeting of global shipping lanes and their swelling arsenal of ballistic missiles and killer drones were no longer tolerable risks. Iran was building powerful missiles and drones to create a conventional shield for their nuclear blackmail ambitions. Our bases, our people, our allies, all in their crosshairs. Iran had a conventional gun to our head as they tried to lie their way to a nuclear bomb. It almost worked under Obama and his terrible deal, but not under this president."
His conclusion generated headlines: "Turns out the regime who chanted death to America and death to Israel was gifted death from America and death from Israel."
Charlie's Impossible Interview Moment
The team recalled a memorable moment at the height of public conflict about Operation Midnight Hammer when Charlie appeared on Jesse Watters in what they described as an impossible situation. They felt he nailed the moment perfectly.
Charlie told Watters: "President Trump understands his base extraordinarily well. He knows that his base does not want another Iraq. He does not want Libya. Does not want a civil war where the United States is left carrying the bag. But also, President Trump has been morally clear for a decade. Iran should not have a nuclear weapon. And President Trump has the talent, the expertise to be able to thread that needle. The generation that I represent, Jesse, the under 30 crowd, they absolutely are very war weary. Many of them voted for President Trump on college campuses because they did not want to see a Joe Biden or George Bush philosophy where we get into this endless conflict where we're sending hundreds of billions of dollars. I think President Trump will be able to balance those two things while defending our allies, saying that Iran will not have a nuclear weapon without having to deploy a single American troop or even having America involved from the sky. President Trump can get that deal done while fulfilling the mandate that the voters gave him."
They remembered Charlie saying that night, "Well, say a prayer, wish me luck" before the interview.
Trump's 1980 Iran Stance
Charlie had made a point about how consistent President Trump has been regarding Iran. The team found a clip from 1980 of Trump discussing his posture on Iran during the Iranian hostage crisis of 1979. Trump was clearly offended that America let the situation happen.
In the vintage interview, Trump said: "When you get the respect of the other countries, then the other countries tend to do a little bit as you do and you can create the right attitudes. The Iranian situation is a case in point that they hold our hostages is just absolutely and totally ridiculous. That this country sits back and allows a country such as Iran to hold our hostages to my way of thinking is a horror." When asked if he was advocating going in with troops, Trump responded: "I absolutely feel that. Yes. I don't think there's any question. There's no question in my mind. I think right now we'd be an oil rich nation and I believe that we should have done it and I'm very disappointed that we didn't do it and I don't think anybody would have held us in abeyance. I don't think anybody would have been angry with us and we had every right to do it at the time."
The team noted Trump has the best vocabulary and has been consistent on Iran. Charlie had made the point that Trump tends to defy both extremes—the hyper-interventionalists and the anti-interventionists. Trump finds a third way.
The Reality of Ongoing Danger
The team emphasized that anyone claiming to know how this will work out is completely wrong. Many people are being smug, acting like the war is already over because the Ayatollah is dead. It's not over. Iran has responded by lobbing missiles at seven different Arab countries almost at random. Their goal appears to be to demoralize, break apart, and create pressure for peace as casualties mount. Iran hopes people will blame the US and Israel for all of it.
So far, there's been somewhat of an opposite effect. Saudi Arabia is now participating in some actions because they had missiles dropped on them. Four US troops have been lost, which requires prayers that troops remain safe and casualties stay minimal. President Trump has indicated there will probably be more losses, which is horrifying and unfortunate, but he's right that this is what happens in armed conflict between militaries.
The team stressed the importance of holding multiple truths simultaneously: praying for success while understanding they don't know all the details. During their Saturday stream, after making numerous calls to gather intel, they heard a repeated theme from multiple sources: there was real concern that Iran was like a rabid dog backed into a corner. Two things could be true at once—the strikes against facilities were successful and the regime was weaker than ever, but they could also be more dangerous than ever.
Why the Strikes Happened Now
Iran was pursuing hypersonics from China—carrier sinkers that could sink US carriers in the region with 5,000 people on board. They were working on dirty bombs, possibly collecting materials from struck sites like Fordow or obtaining them on the black market. They were rapidly building their ballistic missile stockpiles. The reported numbers about how many ballistic missiles Iran had were probably underestimations—they likely had far more, as current indications suggest.
Iran was a dog backed into a corner and they were going to bite. President Trump made the decision to hit them before they were ready to hit the US. The team understands that calculus, though they acknowledge people don't have to agree with it or even think Iran was an imminent threat to understand that reasonable people would reach different conclusions.
Humility, Not Celebration
The team made clear they're not drums-of-war people. There's no excitement, giddiness, or fervor. Instead, there's humility, concern, and prayer for troops, wishing and praying for success that this would ultimately be good for the world and the region. If this ends positively, it's undeniable there could be massive upside, including choking off energy flow to the CCP and many other downstream effects.
The team expressed hope that instead of being another Middle East war, this could be the last Middle East war the United States has to be involved in. America has fought in the Middle East multiple times, but at this point, Iran is the last entity that poses a serious danger. The Houthis shoot missiles at ships in the Red Sea, but they're not a strategic danger to any entire country that matters.
Ideally, once the Iranian regime is either removed or curtailed—and the president has indicated that if all their military capabilities are destroyed and they never try to rebuild them, he doesn't care what they do after that—most troops could come home, most ships could come home, most planes could go elsewhere. This could represent a reorientation of focus to the Indo-Pacific. America has endured 45 years of conflict in the Middle East. It would be nice to not have anymore.
Video Transcript
We had an eventful weekend uh to say the
least.
>> Yes, eventful weekend. We came in, we
did uh an emergency
uh special live stream on Saturday. Uh
tens and tens of thousands of people saw
that. So, thank you guys for supporting
the show. We did our best to honor
Charlie, what Charlie would say in these
situations. We obviously don't know
exactly because uh he's not with us, but
we have some good in indications because
we walked alongside Charlie in the
summer strikes, Operation Midnight
Hammer. We saw how he deliberate
deliberated through those very tough
decisions, those very tough backroom
calls, those private conversations, and
then what he would say publicly. And so,
I think we did a good job of that. Got a
lot of great feedback. And you know,
here's the bottom line is we don't know
how this is going to turn out. We don't
know what's going to happen in the
coming days, weeks, months ahead. We
don't know if this is going to
ultimately be a success or if history
will judge this to be a failure. But uh
I will say that again the US military's
incredible
um I just would say precision, their
lethality has been on full display.
President Trump is saying they are ahead
of schedule, especially when it comes to
targeting the leadership of the IRGC.
The Ayatollah is dead. Of course, that
was something we were not aware of when
we concluded our stream on Saturday,
>> but Kmeni has been killed
>> along with rumored at the time.
>> Yes. Along with 49 other members of the
leadership uh structure within within
Iran. President President Trump even
said where this was misinterpreted by
some people where he was saying they had
a list of likely candidates to succeed
Kami and it appears that their strikes
have been so successful they don't know
who an obvious successor is at this
point. I say misinterpreted because some
people thought we killed our own
candidates to replace them. No, it
appears we're just talking about the
hostile leadership.
>> We knew we we we there was suspicion of
who would be selected if the Supreme
Leader was killed. By the way, there was
another Supreme Leader briefly installed
for 22 hours. He too is dead. Don't even
know his name. I don't think we need to.
But the point is the ultimate secession
plan remains pretty unclear at this
point. Uh it seems to be there was a
indication from President Trump where he
was saying we'll see who they choose.
Meaning it does seem that this is not a
regime change war. I understand that can
feel like, you know, uh a distinction
without a difference, right? because
yeah, the regime is going to change.
These are targeted air strikes to take
out the leadership and allow the people
of Iran to choose the next leader. And
so we don't know how that's going to
play out. We were we're very reticent
around here about regime change wars.
We're very reticent about
uh going in to a a country as large and
as strong as Iran. And the unintended
consequences are sure to be extreme. We
don't know how this is going to
ultimately play out. And they can't say
that enough. Charlie was very concerned
about regime change wars. Was very
reticent about using kinetic force in
this region.
>> But at the end of the day, Charie over
and over and over again said, "This is
why I elected President Trump. This is
why I fought so hard for the president."
>> That's really what it is is there would
be two competing impulses with Charlie.
And the reason we cite him, a big reason
we continue this show, a big reason it
still has his name on there is people
looked to Charlie as a leader as as a
leader in the movement, as a person who
had wise perspectives, as a person who
wasn't under the control of anyone else.
And so he could be frank, he could be
honest about things. And so we're trying
to maintain that voice to the best we
can so that people because that's what
people are looking towards. And what I
can say and I think you agree is
Charlie would have two competing
impulses. One is he was a millennial. He
was a part of that generation very
shaped by Iraq and Afghanistan. two wars
that looked very easy at the start but
went on a lot longer than people
thought, were more expensive than people
thought they would be and ended in
ultimately either failure or at best
mixed results in the case of Iraq
and that would have shaped his attitude
towards this. You can say we we agree he
repeatedly said he thought regime change
in Iran was a bad idea. The competing
impulse there is he was a supporter of
President Trump and President Trump's
judgment in international affairs and he
was also an American patriot and so this
war having started his take would
similarly be I was very hesitant for
this but I also do trust the president's
judgment
>> that he must have good reasons for this
and that he would have a plan to keep
this from extending endlessly and
escalating out of control. Well, and to
your point, you mentioned Iraq.
Secretary of War Pete Hegsath addressed
this very dynamic in his press
conference this morning with General
Kaine. 301
to the media outlets and political left
screaming endless wars. Stop. This is
not Iraq. This is not endless. I was
there for both. Our generation knows
better and so does this president. He
called the last 20 years of nation
building wars dumb. And he's right. This
is the opposite.
This operation is a clear, devastating,
decisive mission. Destroy the missile
threat. Destroy the Navy. No nukes.
So, he's getting to the oper strategic
missional objectives here. He continues
on 302. He says, "This is our why." 302.
Iran's stubborn and self-evident nuclear
pursuits, their targeting of global
shipping lanes and their swelling
arsenal of ballistic missiles and killer
drones were no longer are no longer
tolerable risks. Iran was building
powerful missiles and drones to create a
conventional shield for their nuclear
blackmail ambitions. Our bases, our
people, our allies, all in their
crosshairs. Iran had a conventional gun
to our head as they tried to lie their
way to a nuclear bomb. It almost worked
under Obama and his terrible deal, but
not under this president.
Turns out the regime who chanted death
to America and death to Israel was
gifted death from America and death from
Israel.
>> A lot of uh headlines about that final
line. basically, you know, and and it's
right. It was a bit of a mic drop moment
because, you know, they've been chanting
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I do want to just get to one of these.
I'll never forget this clip, Blake. It
was uh at the height of the base kind of
con having this public conflict about
Operation Midnight Hammer. it was about
to commence, I believe. Um, and Charlie
went on Jesse Waters in sort of an
impossible situation and I I just felt
like he he just nailed this moment and I
want to play it because I remember it
well. 309
President Trump understands his base
extraordinarily well. He knows that his
base does not want another Iraq. He does
not want Libya. Does not want a civil
war or bedum where the United States is
left carrying the bag. But also,
President Trump has been morally clear
for a decade. Iran should not have a
nuclear weapon. And President Trump has
the talent, the expertise to be able to
thread that needle. The the generation
that I rep represent, Jesse, the under
30 crowd, they absolutely are very warw
weary. Many of them voted for President
Trump on college campuses because they
did not want to see a Joe Biden or
George Bush philosophy where we get into
this endless conflict where we're
sending hundreds of billions of dollars.
I think President Trump will be able to
balance those two things while defending
our allies, saying that Iran will not
have a nuclear weapon without having to
deploy a single American troop or even
having America involved from the sky.
President Trump can get that deal done
while fulfilling the mandate that the
voters gave him.
>> Pretty impossible uh interview. I
remember that night going, you know,
Charlie Winn goes, "Well, say a prayer,
wish me luck." And uh I thought he did a
tremendous job. you know, he made a
point about how consistent President
Trump has been when it comes to Iran.
And we found this clip from 1980 of
President Trump just talking about his
posture about Iran in 1980. And
remember, you go back to 1979, this is
the hostage, the Iranian hostage crisis.
Uh, and I think Trump was just sort of
offended that we let this happen. 328.
>> When you get the respect of the other
countries, then the other countries tend
to do a little bit as you do and you can
create the right attitudes. The the
Iranian situation is a case in point
that they hold our hostages is just
absolutely and totally ridiculous. That
this country sits back and allows a
country such as Iran to hold our
hostages to my way of thinking is a
horror. You're advocating that we should
have gone in there with troops etc and
brought our boys out.
>> I absolutely feel that. Yes. I don't
think there's any question. There's no
question in my mind. I think right now
we'd be an oil rich na n n n n n n n n n
n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n
n n n n n n n n n n nation and I believe
that we should have done it and I'm very
disappointed that we didn't do it and I
don't think anybody would have held us
in obeyance. I don't think anybody would
have been angry with us and we had every
right to do it at the time.
>> Held us in obeyance. Yeah, I love it.
>> He's got the best vocabulary.
>> He's got the best words. Don't ever
forget. Yeah. I mean, listen, so this is
a very young Trump uh basically sounding
the exact same way. And he has been
consistent. And I think, you know,
Charlie made this point that, you know,
you've got the hyperinterventional or
anti-interventionist and you got the war
hawks. And these are sort of two
extremes. Well, President Trump tends to
defy both. And that's tends to be the
the truth with President Trump. He he
does find a third way. And again,
anybody that tells you that they know
how this is going to work out is is
completely full of it.
>> A lot of people are, we'll be frank, a
lot of people are smug at this point.
They've as acted like the war is already
over because the is dead.
>> It's not. Period. There are Iran has
responded to this by basically lobbing
missiles at seven different Arab
countries almost at random. It seems
their goal is to demoralize, break
apart, you know, create a lot of
pressure for peace because people start
dying.
>> Well, their their hope is that they'll
just blame the US for all of that or
Israel for all of that.
>> Uh and actually, so far we've seen a
little bit of the opposite effect,
right? Where you saw Saudi Arabia is now
going to participate in some of these
actions because they got missiles
dropped on them. And uh you know,
listen, we've lost four US troops. We
have to pray that our US troops would
remain safe and that we have a minimal
minimal loss of casualty. But President
Trump has already indicated that we'll
probably lose more. That's horrifying.
It's a it's it's unfortunate and it's
horrifying. But he is also right in
saying that this is what happens in when
there is armed conflict between
militaries. And so yeah, listen, I I
think um all these things are are
important to hold all at the same time.
You know, we pray for success, but we
also understand that
we don't know all the details. I warned
repeatedly on Saturday, for those of you
who saw our Saturday stream, I warned
repeatedly that I made numerous calls
ahead of our stream trying to gather as
much intel as I could. And there was
this repeat theme from multiple people
that there was a very real concern that
Iran was like a dog backed into a
corner, a rabid dog, and that you could
hold two things in the same at the to be
true at the same time that yes, the
strikes against photo were successful.
Yes, the regime was weaker than ever,
but yes, they could be more dangerous
than ever. Why? Because they were
pursuing hypersonics from China. Those
are carrier sinkers, right? Those will
sink one of our our carriers in the
region. 5,000 people on board of those.
And they were working on dirty bombs,
right? Whether they were collecting uh
materials from the Fordo sites or
whatever that had been struck or if they
were just getting it on the black market
and they were working on their ballistic
missile uh stockpiles really really
quickly. They were escalating really
really quickly. And so the reported
numbers that you saw how many ballistic
missiles they had were probably an
underestimation. I think they had far
more and I think we're sort of seeing
that indication now. They were a dog
backed into a corner and they were going
to bite. And so, President Trump made
the decision to hit them before they
were ready to hit us. I understand that
calculus. Again, we don't have to agree
with it. You don't even have to think
that Iran was a imminent threat to us to
understand that reasonable people would
come out on a different end of that
discussion.
>> So, we're not a drums of war people.
We're not excited, giddy. There's no
sort of fervor here. There's no um
excitement at this. It's humility,
terror, and prayer for our troops and
wishing and praying for success that
this would ultimately be a good thing
for the world and it would be a good
thing for the region. And by the way, if
this does end in a positive way, it's
undeniable that this this could have
massive upside. Okay, you're you're
talking about choking off the energy
flow to the CCP and many other
downstream effects. Well, we we said
this over the weekend, but I think it's
worth repeating. I think the best
possible outcome for this is that
instead of being another Middle East
war, it is the last Middle East war the
United States has to be involved in.
>> We've been in here multiple times, but
at this point, Iran, you can say, is the
last entity that is a ser, you know, a
serious danger to anyone. Uh yeah,
there's Houthis who shoot missiles at
ships in the Red Sea, but the Houthis
are not in any way a strategic danger to
any entire country that matters.
>> And so ideally once the Iranian regime
is either removed or it is curtailed,
which the president has said, he seems
to be saying if we can destroy all their
military capabilities and if they never
try to rebuild them, we don't care what
they do after that. They can be an
Islamic Republic as long as they want,
as long as they're not a threat to
anyone else. uh if we can create that
reality then we can leave the Middle
East you know leave a few bases here and
there but most of the troops come home
most of the ships come home most of the
planes go elsewhere you've seen that
commentary we can worry about that
you've seen that commentary that this is
in in effect if it works out a
reorientation of our focus on the
Indoacific
>> America has 45 years of conflict in the
Middle East it would be nice to not have
anymore more.