Markets Close, Fed Eve, and Utah Sheriff on Charlie Kirk Assassination Case

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[00:11] All right, folks. There it is. The 4:00

[00:13] bell ring on Wall Street. 4:00 the rest

[00:15] of the world. Certainly here in South

[00:18] Florida, we're thinking about Charlie

[00:19] Kirk. Um, very quickly, numbers. Dow

[00:21] Jones down about 132 points or so. I is

[00:24] my last number on that. Yep. 125. Uh,

[00:28] S&P down about 10. NASDAQ down a little

[00:30] bit as well. Jump over the oil market up

[00:33] a touch up a$127. We don't like that.

[00:35] That's not good news. Gold continues its

[00:38] unprecedented run towards record

[00:41] numbers. 3727 right there. And over on

[00:44] the current the uh cryptocurrency

[00:46] markets doing very well some of them

[00:48] doing very well. Bitcoin's back up over

[00:50] 116,000 almost 117,000. Big number

[00:53] there. Ethereum kind of floundering a

[00:55] little bit. Salana, Dogecoin, the others

[00:58] XRP. Mixed markets in the cryptocurrency

[01:00] market. Gold higher, I'm sorry, gold

[01:03] higher, oil higher. Yep, higher. I will

[01:06] tell you tomorrow's a big big event

[01:08] happening. The Fed will tell us what

[01:10] their decision for interest rates for

[01:12] going forward is they everyone is

[01:14] expecting a quarter point cut in the

[01:16] interest rates. You may see a quarter,

[01:18] you may see a half. If you see a half

[01:20] point cut, you'll see the market go a

[01:21] lot higher. If you see a quarter point,

[01:22] you probably see it go up and then down.

[01:24] And if you see no cut, then you're going

[01:26] to see a market crash tomorrow. That's

[01:27] the facts, folks. All right, let's do

[01:29] this. Take a listen. Listen to this.

[01:32] Also, following the press conference, I

[01:35] am filing a notice of intent to seek the

[01:38] death penalty.

[01:40] I do not take this decision lightly and

[01:43] it is a decision I have made

[01:45] independently

[01:47] as county attorney based solely on the

[01:50] available evidence and circumstances and

[01:53] nature of the crime.

[01:55] >> Well, that was Utah County Attorney

[01:57] General Jeff Gray at today's press

[01:58] conference just moments before we came

[02:00] to air where he discussed every aspect

[02:02] of the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

[02:04] Join me now to discuss is Utah County

[02:06] Sheriff Mike Smith, who you saw in that

[02:08] clip. Perhaps you did while he was in

[02:10] that clip standing next to the Attorney

[02:12] General of Utah. Well, let's welcome

[02:14] Sheriff Mike Smith. Sheriff, good to

[02:15] have you, my friend. Um, so can we talk

[02:18] about this a little bit? There's going

[02:18] to be arraignment of of the the alleged

[02:21] assassin, I guess, within maybe an hour

[02:24] or so. Um, virtual arraignment as well.

[02:27] Tell us what's going on with with with

[02:28] that aspect of the of the investigation.

[02:31] >> It is a virtual arraignment. it will be

[02:34] over WebEx um that he will talk to the

[02:37] judge uh from our county jail

[02:40] >> and sir we had heard that there you know

[02:42] earlier there's some text released where

[02:46] this individual admitted shooting

[02:48] Charlie Kirk that was me maybe some

[02:50] gamer friends or whatnot but I

[02:52] understand is this true he's not

[02:54] cooperating any longer he was at first

[02:56] but he's not cooperating now

[03:00] >> um you know not to comment on it too

[03:02] much but He's he's exercising his

[03:05] constitutional rights. Uh I think

[03:06] they're in the process, I believe, of

[03:08] getting a defense attorney assigned to

[03:10] him and that'll that'll probably uh kind

[03:13] of pan out today a little bit as they go

[03:15] through this arraignment process. But

[03:17] yeah, he's he's going through that pro

[03:20] process.

[03:21] >> Okay. So, let's go through the the the

[03:24] assassination. We we reported it live

[03:27] right here. last Wednesday uh 4:15 is

[03:30] when we we went to public with the fact

[03:32] that Charlie had died from his uh wounds

[03:35] sustained at that point. Talk to us a

[03:37] little about this this rooftop is 200

[03:39] yards away from where Charlie Kirk was

[03:41] was seated under a tent. There are a lot

[03:43] of things. Can we clear up some of these

[03:45] things? What do you know? Tell us what

[03:47] you know about this. Number one, are we

[03:50] absolutely positive this is the actual

[03:53] shooter who do deliver that bullet

[03:56] through Charlie's neck from 200 yards

[03:58] away? has the the bullets recovered. It

[04:00] matches the the gun, but was the the gun

[04:02] was in that kid's hands. We're showing

[04:04] video. That is definitely the gun that

[04:05] he was carrying.

[04:08] >> Yeah. Yeah. You're hearing today from

[04:10] our county attorney from Jeff Gray that

[04:12] there is DNA evidence that is leaking

[04:14] that linking that gun to the individual

[04:18] we have in custody.

[04:19] >> Okay. So, he we know he had that gun.

[04:21] That gun is the gun that dislodged the

[04:23] the bullet that end up killing Charl

[04:26] Kirk. There are other things there.

[04:28] There are people who

[04:30] there was an arrest at the moment. I

[04:32] remember this. I'm watching this live

[04:34] and there was an older gentleman. I

[04:35] believe he's in his 60s who was arrested

[04:36] immediately, you know, and then he was

[04:38] let go fairly quickly. And my thought

[04:41] process was, well, is this coordinated?

[04:43] Was he a diversion? Was he making

[04:46] insinuate actions like he was the

[04:47] shooter so that the actual shooter could

[04:49] get away? What are you are you

[04:50] investigating that?

[04:52] >> Yeah, we're investigating that. Um, and

[04:54] I'll tell you that that individual

[04:56] you're referring to, he's in my county

[04:58] jail right now. U, we have him in

[04:59] custody. Uh, he uh there's no evidence

[05:04] at this point that uh that links him to

[05:07] any sort of collusion with our actual

[05:09] shooter. Um, he's somewhat of a known

[05:11] individual in the community uh

[05:13] throughout the state. And uh

[05:18] you know he he ultimately the words that

[05:21] were said to officers was like you know

[05:23] more of the lines of I did it. I did it

[05:26] and that's why they took him into

[05:27] custody. Um

[05:29] >> so he wait so so he claimed he shot

[05:32] Charlie on scene within moments of the

[05:35] assassination.

[05:36] >> He did. And you know we've charged him

[05:38] with secondderee felony obstruction of

[05:41] justice. And here's the thing with that.

[05:44] um in those critical moments when eyes

[05:46] should have been up looking around

[05:48] trying to spot somebody. I mean, the

[05:50] shooter didn't crawl back off the roof

[05:52] as you see from the video. He got up and

[05:54] ran. Um, but all eyes went to this

[05:57] individual and diverted their attention

[05:59] and uh and kept officers and people that

[06:02] were there from seeing that happen,

[06:04] which I think would have uh led to a

[06:07] much quicker apprehension had we have

[06:09] seen that, not had to go back and pour

[06:11] through, you know, video upon video

[06:13] trying to find this evidence. I I'm

[06:16] assuming FBI, local law enforcement is

[06:20] going to get search warrants and and

[06:22] page through this guy's social media

[06:25] content, his email content to find out

[06:27] if there was any coordination at all.

[06:28] Because it seems very unlikely that a

[06:30] 60some year old guy in in in a an event

[06:34] on on a college campus would jump up if

[06:37] he didn't have prior knowledge after an

[06:39] assassination, a horrific assassination,

[06:41] jump up and claim responsibility.

[06:44] unless there was some sort of

[06:46] coordination for him to be doing such

[06:48] >> all that I don't continue to be uh

[06:51] investigated out but um I don't believe

[06:54] there was any there was any collusion

[06:56] between the two I I don't

[06:57] >> now do you sir now do you sir believe

[06:59] there's any collusion between the

[07:00] shooter and anyone else

[07:04] >> you know I don't I don't rule that out

[07:06] by any means I I think that uh this we

[07:09] need to investigate every single lead

[07:11] every associate every you

[07:14] every transaction and rule that out.

[07:19] >> Did were you guys aware of of this Tyler

[07:22] Robinson prior to this? Does he have any

[07:24] record any record of just calls to the

[07:28] home or or his boyfriend's house or

[07:30] whatever? Any does do the Were the

[07:33] police aware of him at all? Law

[07:34] enforcement aware of him at all?

[07:37] >> Not really. I mean, he he lives in a

[07:39] community that's hundreds of miles away

[07:41] from where this happened. So, he

[07:43] definitely wasn't on our radar and I'm

[07:46] not aware of any glaring uh

[07:48] confrontations or incidents he's had

[07:49] with law enforcement.

[07:51] >> Okay. So, now let's we're there going to

[07:53] be so much information as it comes out.

[07:55] I'm I'm sure they're going to release it

[07:57] to us. Fast forward to

[08:00] Utah uh has cameras in the courtrooms

[08:02] there even for capital murder, capital

[08:05] um pun capital punishment crimes, right?

[08:08] It's so we will see this. And by the

[08:09] way, you guys are seeking the death

[08:11] penalty according to your attorney

[08:12] general. Just want to let the folks know

[08:13] that that's what that was all about. But

[08:15] so there there will be cameras rolling.

[08:17] Do we have any idea when this trial is

[08:19] going to take place?

[08:21] >> I don't. You know, they'll as this goes

[08:23] through the process um it'll be assigned

[08:26] to one of the judges in fourth district

[08:28] court and that'll go onto the docket and

[08:30] then they'll start working on court

[08:32] dates. So yeah, I really can't tell you

[08:35] what that time frame would be at this

[08:36] point. That's completely up to the

[08:38] courts.

[08:39] >> Two more issues with that have so many

[08:41] questions cuz we were again we were

[08:43] here. We were watching this as it

[08:44] happened that unfolded live. There were

[08:46] two individuals. One, we had a young man

[08:48] on two days in a row who was up front

[08:51] and he said there was something very

[08:52] disturbing that happened and I he said

[08:54] well he said there was a guy who jumped

[08:56] immediately after the like right while

[08:57] it was h that guy this guy right on your

[08:59] screen right now jumped up and was

[09:01] celebrating the the assassination of

[09:04] Charlie Kirk. And it you see like who is

[09:07] do we know who he is and has he been

[09:09] investigated?

[09:12] >> Yeah. Um we do and that Yeah. We like I

[09:15] said we are looking at every angle of

[09:17] this. Um we're looking at who was there,

[09:19] you know, who was asking the question at

[09:21] the time that Charlie was shot. All of

[09:24] those things are being investigated and

[09:26] run down. And you know, we if if there

[09:29] are others involved, we want them. and

[09:32] we're not going to we're not going to

[09:33] stop the investigation until we're

[09:34] satisfied that there is no one else

[09:36] involved in this. Another one is there a

[09:39] lot of you know all over social media

[09:40] there are two people g men standing

[09:43] behind Charlie Kirk while the event was

[09:45] going on and there there are some people

[09:47] who believe there were hand signals

[09:48] being given hat tip side of the face on

[09:51] one another hand arm gesture and another

[09:54] one that was repeated a second time

[09:56] could be just coincidental who knows but

[09:58] certainly have you guys brought those

[10:01] two guys in to talk to them what what

[10:04] make just investigate what they have to

[10:05] say Yeah. Yeah. We've talked to I mean

[10:08] those would be people who are involved

[10:10] in with Charlie Kirk himself. Yes. Um

[10:13] and and again I I will tell you this uh

[10:16] having been there firsthand been through

[10:18] this from the moments the first moments

[10:21] till till present there is a ton of

[10:24] information on uh social media and the

[10:26] internet that is misleading and

[10:28] completely false. Uh, a lot of people

[10:30] are coming up with all sorts of

[10:32] conspiracy theories that they just they

[10:35] didn't happen.

[10:36] >> Yeah. No, no, no doubt. And we weed

[10:38] those out. But funny thing about

[10:39] conspiracy theories, Sheriff, I've been

[10:40] doing this a long time. Over time, some

[10:43] of them, most a lot of them tend to be

[10:44] no neither conspiracy nor theory. They

[10:47] happen to be fact. We just we were too

[10:50] >> aggressive in in in going after. I

[10:52] personally cannot fathom what we know

[10:55] what we know about this shooter as the

[10:57] as a soul shooter with with no

[10:59] infrastructure. It just I know he's a he

[11:01] had a gun since he was five or seven

[11:02] years old. I think his parents had

[11:04] showed pictures of that. I get that. But

[11:06] it it just seems too well planned. And

[11:08] this whole idea of the diversion, he

[11:10] gets away, takes, you know, good

[11:12] whatever 10 hours to find the guy. I I

[11:14] just I it's in my gut. It's just a

[11:16] theory right now. I don't think it's

[11:17] going to be conspiracy. So, there were

[11:20] allegedly 6,000 people who signed a

[11:22] petition for Charlie not to show up um

[11:24] on that campus that day. You guys

[11:27] investigating that those 6,000

[11:29] signatures?

[11:30] >> Like I said, we're looking at everything

[11:32] that we have. Um this is a very large

[11:35] and uh multi-

[11:38] faceted uh investigation and

[11:40] everything's being looked into.

[11:42] >> Good. Good. You're providing comfort to

[11:44] a lot of us. Um,

[11:46] >> and you know what? I'm with you on

[11:48] conspiracies. I get it. It, you know,

[11:50] conspiracies is the point now where it's

[11:52] like, um, they're all, you know, all the

[11:54] ones you thought were the worst, you're

[11:56] like, well, it was true. So, um, I get

[11:58] it. Um, even the stuff on the internet

[12:00] that we're seeing, um, we're going back

[12:02] and going, okay, let's make sure that

[12:05] this is what we have here. So,

[12:07] >> we're looking at everything. We want to

[12:08] be as thorough.

[12:09] >> Before I let you go, you're you're a

[12:10] busy man. You got a lot in your hands.

[12:11] You got an arignment coming in in, you

[12:13] know, within an hour. Is there anything

[12:16] in your professional, your law

[12:18] enforcement vibe? Is there anything that

[12:21] doesn't make sense here? Anything that's

[12:23] that's you got the hair on the back of

[12:24] your neck standing up?

[12:28] >> Um, no, not really. Uh, what we're

[12:31] seeing right now, I'm I'm satisfied with

[12:33] the point we are at with who we have in

[12:35] custody. Um, and I am satisfied with the

[12:38] continuing efforts that are that are

[12:41] moving forward to make sure that we

[12:42] haven't missed anything. So, you know,

[12:46] I'll be one that if there's something

[12:48] we're missing, I'm going to be right in

[12:49] the middle of it, making sure that we're

[12:50] following up on it. I I want to answer

[12:52] all the questions as much as anybody

[12:54] does, and I want to make sure this is a

[12:56] rock solid investigation.

[12:57] >> Yes. Yes. Good. Good. Good. You don't

[12:58] want any any courtroom shenanigans by by

[13:02] the defense uh to say it was handled

[13:04] improperly. very quickly. Uh he he may

[13:06] or may not be he was cooperating. He's

[13:07] not now is what we understand. How about

[13:09] the roommate, girlfriend, whatever. Is

[13:12] that person cooperating? And is the

[13:14] family continuing to cooperate?

[13:18] >> Um you know, I'll talk about the family

[13:21] a little bit. That had to be the hardest

[13:23] thing they've ever done in their life. I

[13:24] can't I mean, I can't I put myself in

[13:26] that position and it would break me as a

[13:29] parent to have to do what they did. So,

[13:30] hats off to them. And I, you know, the

[13:33] the cooperation uh from the beginning to

[13:36] turn them into local officials and then

[13:38] I get a phone call from the sheriff in

[13:41] Washington County to tell me, "Hey, I

[13:43] think I have your guy." Hats off to

[13:45] those parents. I can't imagine what

[13:47] they're going through. Uh so the cooper

[13:50] the cooperation level has, in my

[13:52] opinion, been spot on with them to to

[13:55] get us to this point. and the boyfriend,

[13:59] girlfriend, whatever, roommate,

[14:01] >> you know. Yeah, that was asked during

[14:03] the press conference and that's

[14:05] something that uh the county attorney's

[14:08] he for the preservation of evidence

[14:10] wants to keep uh kind of quiet at this

[14:13] minute, but he did read that

[14:16] correspondence between our shooter and

[14:18] his boyfriend and very very damaging

[14:22] information in there. But just the fact

[14:24] that we have that and even I think as

[14:25] you read through those text messages,

[14:28] >> it doesn't appear that this individual

[14:30] was really okay with what our shooter

[14:32] >> Good. Good. All right. Well, you keep us

[14:34] informed, Sheriff. Really good having

[14:35] you on. U appreciate this. We'd like to

[14:38] get you back as as the investigation

[14:39] unfolds. Sheriff uh Mike Smith from

[14:43] Utah. Thank you so much.

[14:47] >> All right, folks. We'll be back two and

[14:48] a half minutes.

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