my radio show, podcast, and social media. Said differently, I visit college campuses so you don't have to. [Applause] We're talking to so many voters that know it is time for change. They know that something is wrong. America's future is a series of choices. Our current state of slow motion national decline is a choice. Today is our 2-year-old's birthday. And I look at my daughter and that is my why. For those that are parents, you know exactly what I mean. >> There is no mountain that stands tall as your faithfulness. There is no river that runs wide as your goodness. [Music] man. Charlie, uh, I I remember when we were starting these out and >> it was that like that, >> you know, it was like this. It was like it was like your average >> three rows. >> It was like your average political meeting where there was like 12 people in a room and uh, this is this is awesome. This, in my personal opinion, was the most over-the-top Trump event that I've ever covered. This is the number one boots on the ground operation in the country. We're working directly in harmony with the Trump campaign. It's been vetted. It's been cleared. It's been blessed, as you could see there. And we're going to try to win this thing. No guarantees. It's what we do that matters. >> Mr. President, I can tell you this room is 100% with you, and we have your back. God bless you. We really do. Thank you. [Music] [Applause] [Music] As you know, we are heading on campus here momentarily at the University of South Florida, throwing it down with the students. It's going to be a lot of fun. Uh we are excited to continue this cultural movement that we have started at Turning Point USA. More high school chapters, more college chapters. And disagreement is not just welcome. It is invited. We want to have those tough conversations. That's what it's all about. 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Go that extra mile. talk to that extra friend because throughout voting month and culminating on the 5th of November, I believe it will go down as a day that people remember, as a day that is written about in history books, as the final battle from the golden escalator on down from defeating Hillary Clinton, from the nonsense of 2020, from Butler, Pennsylvania, November 5th, it all culminates where we restore the promise that the founders gave us. and they said, "Hey, if the people want it, the people get it, and we the people take back America. God bless Arizona." And thank you so much. [Music] Every day, the American people demand certain accomplishments and victories. Disagreement is what keeps a movement alive, keeps a movement fun. Here in this country, we are a country of flourishing. We're a country of risk-taking. We're a country of building. We will achieve American greatness. And we are just getting started. >> All my days your mercy follow me. [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] Every day there's a battle for your mind raging. Information coming from every angle with the will to deceive. Fear not. You found the place for truth. the voice of a generation that still has the will to believe in the greatest country in the history of the world. This is the Charlie Kirk show. Buckle up. Here we go. >> Hey everyone, I'm Megan Kelly and I am honored to be sitting in Charlie Kirk's studio hosting the Charlie Kirk show. We're simal casting it out right now for our listeners on the Megan Kelly show and we're all so honored to be a part of this. um traveled out to Arizona last night and just stepping foot in the state. I mean, you can't go more than a hundred feet without seeing something to honor Charlie, especially here at the headquarters of Turning Point where you pull up and it is like something the only thing that I can compare to it is after Princess Diana died where you see the teddy bears and the balloons and the signage lining just the entire campus outside of this building. I mean, there's an incredible outpouring around the world for him, and I'm so honored to be sitting here in the studio. I'm here uh right now with Andrew Kulovit. He's Charlie's executive producer. Andrew, thank you so much for inviting me. >> Oh, thank you for making the journey and the trip. I know it's no small task. And you honor Charlie. Charlie would be so honored. And you were one of his dearest friends in this whole crazy media and conservative space. and he would absolutely I I started making calls probably within 36 hours and I knew exactly who to call and you were absolutely one of those people and so thank you for making this work. >> Thank you. I just I feel like the one thing I can say about me and Charlie is, you know, I think you once described it as the weird chemistry he and I had together on the air, you know, because I I absolutely loved talking to him. I can't think of somebody I wanted to talk to more ever when I saw it was a Charlie Kirk day on the show. I knew it was going to be a great program. I knew he was going to bring something different than what we would hear from everybody else. And one of the things that I knew I'd get from Charlie was humor. >> Yes. >> Always made me laugh. >> That's an underappreciated quality of Charlie. And I'm I don't want to give away where we're going with this show. If you want to, that's fine. You're driving today. But the people closest to him, the people in this building, they all have many stories about how Charlie just made them, you know, kill over laughing just because he was really funny. He had a very dry sense of humor and it was very Charlie. There was there I don't know how you could really describe it. They're going to have to tell you themselves. But yeah, and that came through in interviews with you. It didn't come through with everybody, >> but with you, he had you guys had this this rapport. And I remember always texting back and forth with your team cuz you're on the air with him and he's on the air with you and we would be like, "Oh, this is great. Oh my gosh, this is amazing." And I remember you going on Shawn Ryan's show and he was like, "Who should I interview?" And a lot of people sent me this clip. I don't know if I ever told you that, but I saw it and you were like, "You should have Charlie Kirk on." It never happened. And that's fine. I met Sean a couple times and we were always kind of talking about maybe whatever, >> but the fact that you were >> I just knew I because I felt like for the first couple years that Charlie and I were talking, it wasn't by no means was it that Charlie was undiscovered. He he had been discovered and he had already built this massive organization. But >> in more traditional Republican circles, he wasn't as well known. And in some circles, not as well understood. >> You know, they the establishment. >> Yeah. They thought he was fringy. And I would tell all my friends in that lane, "No, no, no, no, no, no, no. You got to listen to him. He's hugely important to the future of the Republican party and the country." >> And they would listen. You know, I mean, more and more he was gaining friends even among that wing, of course. But you know, in the beginning, people threat feel threatened by somebody who's coming up in their lane. They don't want to lose their positions. Is he going to take over the Republican party and then Charlie just by sheer force of will and personality and goodness won them over. It was to know him truly was to love him. And you're going to see that. I think re very rarely, you know, people that work with a very demanding, hard-driving person, which Charlie was. There's no doubt you very rarely do you couple that with the more time you spend with him the more you love him. >> And everybody in this building and turning point staff will have the same exact reaction. It he was endearing in the most amazing way and I I had told so many people this actually. I'm really proud that I got to before he died that you just can't help but love the guy because the mission, his belief, his faith, and his he was generous to a fault. He was loyal to a fault, and he was trustworthy. >> And he would never ever spill the beans. He wouldn't gossip. >> I've never heard him say a negative word about anybody. No. Even on the air, we, you know, he'd come on, we'd be talking about who's in the news. And half our friends are always in the news because they say controversial things, what have you. And so you always got to, you know, treat it gingerly when you're going to talk about something like that. But Charlie was always, he would always say, I'm just never gonna say anything bad about that person. He would own it, you know, like I don't care whether they're in the news or not. I'm not going to do that. >> Yeah. Even if he disagreed with them privately, you know, a lot of our friends would say things that would, you know, cause a big stir and there was pressure. You got to condemn this. You got to call this person out. You got to do this. And Charlie was like, "No, >> no, he never did." And honestly, I'm I'm now trying to live by that example. I I'm not going to lose my generally cynical mofo nature. That's technically not a swear. I just want I want want that clear. We don't swear on the show. Seven words. I know. Um yeah. No, poor Charlie. I would subject him to my potty mouth and he was such a good sport about it. >> But no, we are we are on his show now. We will be good. Um so I'm not going to lose that. But I am, it gave me pause to think about not not being too quick to condemn people who we like and who deserve the benefit of the doubt. >> And well, in this moment, I know there's a lot of people online. I we hear you. Uh that are saying different things and that are they're processing their guilt in the way that >> their grief >> their grief their grief. Thank you. And they're they're mourning in the way that they know how. And it's going to come out in a thousand different ways. And we are trying to give everybody space to do that. Obviously, I personally, Andrew Kulvette, would do it one way, but other people are going to do it another way. And we're we really do have to honor Charlie in that way and say Charlie was a master of collecting people. >> He was. Yep. >> And there is a reason for that. >> I couldn't agree with you more. I mean, I have always tried to not choose a side within Republican politics to try to keep the door open to everybody. He made me look like an amateur at that because there wasn't any you look at like >> you America Fest, you look at the student action summit, you look at any event that Charlie put on, >> you'd have everybody from all ideological wings of the party. He managed to hold this coalition together >> in a way few can. I mean, few other than Donald Trump can. >> No, for real. And I think, you know, and I've said this before, but I just want everybody to keep hearing it, that Charlie looked at the virtues, the roles that one could play in society. And he was borrowing this from the Greeks and others, but being a statesman, being a philosopher, being a theologian are the highest callings. And he told me one some of the deepest conversations that we had before he died saying, you know, everybody can be everybody can open a stream and say crazy things, but not everybody can be a statesman. Not everybody can be a coalition builder. It's really hard to build. And he was very proud that we had built something that he had built something that was is an institution that's going to outlive him with friends that of of all different parts of the party that love him and that admire him. And so we had I'm not kidding. We talked for hours about this on a few different occasions about why that was the highest calling. And I could tell he was working that out with me. and not just working that out, but what I've learned just since Charlie died is working to be the person. I did not realize how much work Charlie put into these campus appearances and honing his game and making sure he was at the at the peak in terms of his ability to have these exchanges. >> He disciplined his body to do it from he was a biohacker. He was religious about sleep. He didn't put uh poisons into his body. He he really understood that he had to get the most out of himself. And he found time to do the most bizarre things. I I I he journaled. He he read books. He listened to books on tapes. He found ways to maximize every single second. >> I think one of the services you and Erica could when everyone's feeling better provide for his fans would be to put together a list of what Charlie read. I feel like everybody would want to see that. just the best you can cobble it together. Just go to his bookcase, >> go to his, you know, Kindle, whatever. Because >> I think people would love to know what influenced him. He influenced them. What influenced him? We We've got news to make. We're going to take a quick break. We'll come back and we'll make it. Don't go away. [Music] So, I'm a Canadian. Um, don't hold that against me. I'm so happy to be here. Pastor Tommy, you're an idol for me. Um, in the best way. I don't mean in a a negative way. Um, and um, it's just a a privilege to be here. Um, yeah, I I my dad's a pastor in Canada. um he just turned his church over after, you know, decades of of amazing service. Um I went to Bible college in Portland, Oregon. Um youth pastored for my dad for a couple years. Then I moved to New York and I was a part of a church there. Um when I was in New York, I had this idea, what if we made Bible college cheap or affordable rather, but but you know, but awesome. And uh and not woke. Um, one of the concerns that I've had with a lot of Bible colleges is that uh it trends very liberal and progressive. Um, and so we created this platform called Theosu and it's like 10 bucks a month. We have um hundreds of of trainers on there that teach. We're we're conservative. We're unapologetically um theologically conservative and we all uh believe in the gifts and the power of the Holy Spirit. I'm I'm a I'm a die in the bull Pentecostal. I'm sorry, but it is what it is. You don't have to apologize. This is what I love about Freedom Night. We have we have five point Calvinists and swinging from the chandelier Pentecostals and totally we all love Jesus here. And Nathan, so why is it that the church the last decade especially has become so woke? Define the term. Where does it come from and why is it happening? >> Yeah. So defining woke I guess is is is a that's like juggling um eight balls. But I think um it's not something that's happened in the last 10 years. It's probably something that's happened in the last 150 years. Um, it began with the Enlightenment and and people questioning um the word the way that Satan did and um and then kind of twisting it the way that Satan did and sort of removing all of its power. You know, doubting the miracles um you know, you end up with when you start to tear the miracles out of the Bible, you end up with just the maps. Um and um and the maps aren't all that helpful. And uh and so uh and then I think there's a major shift in the church about 40 years ago, maybe 30 years ago with the seeker sensitive movement, which I think started in a good place where it was we want to reach more people. Um but my dad's generation, my dad was a 17-year-old when he met Jesus, uh through a teen challenge, uh coffee house, and he was a drugged out hippie. Yeah. and and he got uh he got he you know filled with the Holy Spirit and he went to a Pentecostal church and and he got super involved there and his life just completely changed and he experienced Jesus. You know, it's one thing to know about Jesus, it's another thing to experience Jesus. And um so the the church that my dad was raised in was a church where like how do we get God to come to church? But it's almost like it switched a number of years ago where it was how do we get people to come to church? And for me, I think that has been um a Trojan horse because when you're thinking when all you're thinking about is how do I please this person in the pew and not how do I please the Lord, you're going to have problems. Um and it's a giant setup, you know, for inviting all kinds of bad doctrines. >> Yeah. I I would the the best way to explain woke to your friends is call something unfair or unjust until you control it. >> So call something racist till you're in charge. Right. >> So call something sexist till you're in charge. Right. >> And it's a means to power. >> Totally. >> So wokeism is a lot of things in particular. >> One though that you've really been able to pinpoint Nathan brilliantly is deconstructionism. So deconstructionism everybody is unfortunately growing in a lot of seminaries. Uh it's this idea that we need to take apart the essence of the word of God that we need to ask did God really say that? Is that really what the word says? Basically challenging biblical authority and scriptural inherency using the same analytical tools that they use on American history that they use on American founding documents. So what for example we don't like the 1619 project right we don't like CRT and we you know we fought against that but those same analytical tools are now used in Christian schools explain more Nathan. Yeah. Yeah, that's really good. Um, those are really good. It's taking notes. Um, >> yeah, essentially, uh, you know, Marxism kind of comes in and people buy into that. Um, you know, there's everything is about power and everything is about these power plays. And so we have people that are that are swimming in this stuff. They come into our churches and so when they read the Bible, they don't they're not reading the Bible Welcome back everyone. I'm Megan Kelly sitting in on the car the Charlie Kirk show and it's my honor to be here out in Phoenix, Arizona with his team and we're simal casting for our audience on SiriusXM as well. Um, I'm here with his like top lieutenants and they've been through so much over the past week and they know Charlie so well. We thought it'd be great to bring some of these guys in and talk about some of their memories of Charlie, which we're going to do. This is Blake Nef. Uh, he's What will you describe what you did for Charlie? >> Uh, I was a producer. Uh, you know, helped get guests for the show, but also especially talking points, researching issues, you know, what do we want to say about this? And he would come to me, Blake, you what do we think about this issue? And you know, Charlie is a busy guy, so sometimes it was my job to go and read the 400page book about something so I can give him a 10-page digest of it later. >> Yeah. Aren't you Didn't he call you his secret weapon? >> I'm told that. He didn't tell that to my >> I'll accept it. >> I heard he called you his secret weapon. And then there's Mikey McCoy. How you doing, Mikey? >> Good. >> All right. Tell us what you did for Charlie. >> Yeah, I was his chief of staff. Worked for him almost six years. Um, yeah. Organized his life. >> So, he took you out of your cradle. >> He he plucked me out. Saved me from going to college. >> He did, right? He said, "I don't want you to go to college. I want you to come work for me." So, >> best decision I made. Um, yeah. So, with him for six years, I his Swiss Army knife, if a problem would arise, I'd go and solve it for him. Kept his life organized and traveled with him everywhere. And >> it's he was always so complimentary of his team, Andrew. I mean, whenever you give him a compliment, he would give it back to you guys. He never took the compliment directly. >> Um, and now there's a question about who's going to lead the team going forward and who's going to lead this enormously important organization. Um, and I understand you have some news on that front. >> Yeah. Um, since everything has happened, I think the number one question is what is going to happen with Turning Point? What is going to happen next? And um I'm pleased to be able to announce with you and I think it's appropriate because of who you are and who this person is that the Turning Point board has unanimously selected Erica Kirk as the new CEO and chair of the board. And not only is that amazing in and of itself, but I can assure you, Megan, that Charlie told me personally, and he told others, he probably told Mikey, that if anything ever happened to him, that this is exactly what he wanted. >> Wow. I have the chills. It had to be, right? I mean, there's just I don't think anybody would accept a leader of the organization who they didn't feel completely understood, Charlie, and would be 100% dedicated to fulfilling his vision for where this group is going. >> Well, and let me just add one more thing, and I want Mikey to chime in here as well, but in the immediate hours afterwards, Erica got a call from somebody very important. leave that vague out of privacy, but she got a call from somebody very important and the question was, "What do you know?" Sort of asking how much of what's going on behind the scenes and with the relationship, like what do you know? And her reply back was everything. >> I know everything. >> That's good. You can tell um the bits of the two of them, you know, and showing like the clips that you guys have released show first of all their immense intense love story, which has been so uplifting to everybody who's ever felt love or wanted to in their lives. >> And we pulled this one that you guys ran because it's so touching. It's um S 17 and it's her when they were engaged sitting on this set, I think. Let's watch it. Yeah. >> I'm not going to be able to focus sitting this close to him. >> Hi. >> You ready? >> What? >> Hello. >> Hello. I'm not going to be able to focus looking right at you. >> I'm just going to be staring at you. >> Hello. >> Wow. >> Ready, Terl? >> Hold on. >> We're rolling. >> We're not. >> All right. All right, you'll be switching. All right, I'll count it down. >> Wait, I'm kind of nervous, you guys. >> She's nervous, which is why we must get going. >> All right, we ready? >> No. >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. Three, two, one. Hey, everybody. Welcome to this episode of the Charlie Kirk show. >> You're going to have to do it again. >> Introduce yourself. >> Is that what you're going to say? [Music] Hey everybody, welcome to this episode of the Charlie Kirk show. >> You're so >> I'm engaged. >> Would you like to introduce yourself or should I introduce you? >> This is important. >> How would you like me to start? All right, we'll try it again. Hey everybody, welcome to this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show. Joining me is the most special guest, my fiance, Erica. Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. >> Wow. I don't know about you guys, but I was holding it together just fine up until that. >> Their love story was something. >> Yeah. Um Charlie knew how good Erica was. We know how good Erica was. And when she made her address the other night, right next to this chair, I think the whole nation found out how good Erica was. >> The amount of strength that that took. She She's our Khesi. She's our retribution. She's our >> The memes are already flowing. >> Yeah. Right. Well, there's more on her. And what's happening next here next? Don't go away. [Music] >> Word of God. They're problematizing the Bible. And then we start to realize, I'll give you a great example. Um, and every deconstructing influencer that I follow on Instagram, because I follow them to learn, you know, what they're saying and stuff, they all basically do the same thing. They love hippie Jesus. Um, and they hate the Apostle Paul and uh, so it's so, you know what I mean? >> It's really interest. No, that's Keep going. >> Yeah. So their version of Jesus and and they kind of collapse Jesus too because the truth of the matter is that if you read Jesus in the book of John, I mean he'll cut you. He'll pull the switchblade out. You know what I mean? He's like he's not always carrying a lamb, you know, like he he he, you know, he'll pour some >> whip literally to Exactly. He'll he'll Exactly. He he pours a little crowd thinner out every now and then, you know, and people walk away. You know, the rich young ruler, he's like, you know, he's like, "How do I how do Well, you you know, money has a control on your life and you're going to need to get rid of it and he just walks away. I mean, today's pastor, if I was a pastor today, I'd chase him and invite him to a Kingdom Builder's breakfast, you know. Um, Jesus, we're having John Maxwell next Sunday. Come, you know. Um, I love John Maxwell, by the way. I'm just saying like Jesus just let these people walk, you know. Um, so um, >> so, so my thought is is you can't pit, you know, scripture against scripture. And Jesus, they have these collapsed 2D versions of Jesus that that, you know, the Jesus that calls you to deny yourself and pick up your cross and follow him doesn't exist. It's just Jesus that's that's this socialist Jesus. Um, you know, and and they they they say these every everything is through their their their their Marxist binaries, you know. So Jesus did this for these types of people. Jesus did this for these types of people. Um, and and then pitting Jesus against against the rest of scripture. And this is how you know Jesus is the savior of the world because everyone wants to claim him. >> The communists want him. Even the Muslims want him, >> right? >> Everyone wants Jesus. >> Yeah. >> Mind you, we don't want any of their stuff. We don't want Muhammad. Like, we don't want Marks. >> We're good. We got Jesus. >> Yeah. >> But they know there's something about Jesus that is special, unique, extraordinary, transcendent, and divine. And that's a very important thing. Almost every sinister movement in the history of the planet has tried to claim Jesus as their own. >> Yeah. >> And that's because there's something there. Now, but Nathan, let's go a step deeper. How does deconstructionism manifest? How can people start to spot it when when either may maybe in a Christian podcast or in a sermon? I can give an example and then you can. Well, they'll start to be like, well, we don't really need the Old Testament to understand the New Testament. That's a that's a phenomenon that might be growing. or they'll try to apply modern secular humanist worldview onto scripture. And if you listen carefully, you'll realize that they're imposing their own modern values over scripture, not submitting to God's God's word. >> Absolutely. >> Yeah. 100%. Like I said, like the first thing for me, I when somebody starts to pit Jesus against Paul, right there, you have a deconstructionist. They all do it. It's their favorite thing to do. um they like to make Jesus out to be, for example, there was this one lady I followed on Twitter and she believed that Jesus came, you know, to he's an he was there to to to liberate people um and to free people from oppression. That was the big thing. And so I began to just ask her more questions, you know, like if Jesus was was a liberator and he was against oppression, um he didn't do a very good job, did he? You know what I mean? like and and as I began to question her more more about this, you know, for example, like uh she would make this claim like Jesus elevated, you know, women. And I'm like, he he certainly did. He certainly elevated women. But I just said like, well, you know, Judas disappeared. You know, that was a great chance for Jesus to make women an apostle and he didn't. Um so, so don't you have a bone to pick with him? And she, yeah, actually I do have a bone to pick with him about that. You know, so it's like, >> but do you see, let me interrupt, that's her thinking she's better than Jesus. >> And at that moment, the whole game gets exposed. >> Yeah. >> Cuz she's imposing other morality on top of the scripture. >> And that's the kicker. >> Yeah. Yeah. Totally. Demanding that Jesus be this oppressor that would that would meet her modern criteria. And so, you know, I believe that women can preach and lead and pastor and all that, but I'm just saying though that like using using Jesus as your women's lib, it he doesn't go far enough for you. If he's overthrowing government, he doesn't go far enough for you. If he's there to, you know, to prioritize the the poor, you know, for example, a Marxist will always prioritize somebody who is poor over somebody who's rich. The rich are automatically evil and the poor are automatically a problem. Well, Jesus doesn't do that. Um, you know, and even the book of Proverbs, it's like, you know, justice has to be equal. You don't give favoritism to the rich. You don't give >> Exactly. Um, so all that to say, there's a lot of ways that you can you can point it out, but I think the first [Music] movement will not be silenced. You're listening to the Charlie Kirk Show. >> Welcome back everyone. And I'm Megan Kelly sitting in Charlie's studio with some of his dear friends and staffers. And uh I don't know you guys, today has a different feel for me. I've been listening all week with JD, the vice president, uh with the guys from Daily Wire, who I love, with Glenn, and of course, we've been covering everything about Charlie since, you know, last week on my own show. And just being with you all, I feel better. I don't know. Like today just seems like we're able to laugh a little. Like it's not that people aren't in grieving, but it's a sign of mental well-being that you can find a way to like chuckle here and there. You know, I I had my first laugh actually the other day when my friend reminded me of my favorite exchange with Charlie. It was very funny and it was actually it it arose out of a time when Charlie was in trouble with the left for having said something that they thought was terrible and I knew wasn't terrible and it was part of his courage and saying something that everybody believes but they would never say it out loud. It was about how they were so focused on hiring women and black pilots and minority pilots and going from 3% to 50, right? Was it a 50 that we were going to have to worry about who the hell was flying the planes because it was like what do you mean? There's black people are only 13% of the population. How are we going to have 50% of them being pilots? Anyway, so Charlie said that and then everybody said he was a racist, which was Oh, sorry. Sorry. Which was bull. It happened. Never mind. Force I have it. Um, and hold on. Let me find it here. He came on my show January 2024 and made the following point as only Charlie could. S 22. >> DEI invites unh wholesome thinking. And I said, I don't. And I was saying in the clip, that's not who I am. That's not what I believe. But what it does is it makes us worse versions of of ourselves. Megan, that's the whole point of what I was saying is that I now look at everything through a hyper racialized diversity quota lens because of their massive insistence to try to hit these ridiculous racial hiring quotas. 3 to 4% of current pilots are blacks right now. 3 to 4%. And now now they want to say this is just a hiring class of candidates. Are there enough candidates to fill the 50% quota? And the other question should be asked is why is it a problem? Let's just ask the premise. Why is it a problem that 81% are white? And I just I love the Axios guy. White males are dominating the cockpit. >> Yeah, those pesky safe flights are dominating our society. Megan, you know, all those, you know, all those 25 years of commercial airliners that have kept on, I mean, dominating as as if like the white male is like oppressing us with, you know, their beautiful landings through turbulence and storms, >> you know, just because he said that at the end. Uh, I think one of a great little Charlie thing, every time a plane took off, he would say, "Lord bless this flight." Right as it began to accelerate. And then when I joined, I would add Lord Bless this landing because I find that a pretty important part of >> that help. So tell us something about Charlie that we don't know. >> Oh man. >> Who's got one of those? Blake Mikey. >> We also have two we have two new guest stars here. Want to tell everybody we have Daisy Phelps. Uh and we have Emma Kate Bartles. And Emma Kate, you did Charlie social media. And Daisy, you seem like you did everything. >> Media director. I just kind of just have explained it as podcast media, digital media, sponsorship media. whatever Charlie said >> did for Charlie and now will continue doing for Erica and for Turning Point. >> We're all in it. >> Sorry. Yeah. What were you gonna say? >> So, one of the things Mikey and I agreed we were really happy he got to do. Uh, you know, one of the things about Charlie is he was so famous. He had no anonymity anymore in America. And he actually really liked going out on walks. And so, we were actually in Asia just the weekend before this happened. And we were in Seoul. And I'd been there a little bit early. I was going to a wedding for a friend of mine and so when he got in I was like Charlie the best way to understand the city just kind of walk around and see how it's different and so you know we were there he got in on a Friday and so I think uh Saturday morning I he just got up extremely early 5:30 a.m. and he just started walking around the streets of Seoul. And for once he got to just wander a city and he was just for most of the people there he was just kind of this this foreigner wandering around their city. >> He's tall for American standard. He would draw everyone's gaze. He would draw everyone's gaze but you know for once he could just wander a city as a traveler and he really liked to do that. >> I didn't realize what a big walker he was. >> Big walker. My version of tourism is you stop at a cafe, you eat, you keep walking, you stop, you shop. Charlie's is you just walk walk. And it was 90 degrees, 90% humidity. We're sweating through our suits and we're all like, "When is he when is he gonna stop walking?" Finally, he stopped at a coffee shop and we were like, "Okay, we're going to get like 10 minutes here." No. 2 minutes. 2 minutes and we're back out in the heat. >> But like no vices, right? Did he even get the coffee or did he get the midnight tea? >> He got the mint tea. Classic mint tea with two honeys. >> Everyone's been getting now. There are so many outside of HQ people leave their their men majesty with two honeys. >> Did you see that story Daisy of the They posted it on X. Um somebody an older woman a grandmother went into a Starbucks and asked for that and they gave it to her and they wrote loser on it. >> Well, her family unleashed holy you know what >> on the this Starbucks to the point where they were temporarily closed when the family went back to find accountability. It's amazing though. It's like the story is not about some loser who wrote loser, >> right? It's about people have had it. They're pushing back >> Charlie style because the the confrontation was actually very polite, but it was like you're not going to do this to us. >> Well, and what's funny is we had just at our student action summit in Florida, we did approve me wrong, which was kind of the first we done at one of our own events. So, it was supposed to be more light-hearted. Pretty much everyone that's there loves Charlie is his supporter. And so most of the questions, some of them were like about the the bears, the cubs, what if he likes waffles or pancakes, and then what his Starbucks order was because we talked about it the other day, but he would have these cough drops all the time, and people would think they were zen. They were just cough drops. He had to have them for his throat, and then people would ask what his Starbucks drink was, and everyone was guessing in the crowd. And >> Emate posted that video, and people, it went viral. They loved knowing what he had. They just love real stories of him. >> You're incredibly talented. Charlie's social media is next level. So, I don't know how how you manage that, but through the social media right now, people are reconnecting with him or connecting for the first time in like a really unprecedented. I've never seen anything like it. >> 100%. I saw a TikTok this morning of somebody saying they tried to silence Charlie, but I hadn't really seen his videos or paid attention to them. He was like, "Now I'm going down a Charlie Kirk rabbit hole. I'm watching every video. I'm listening to every podcast. I he was like, I can't believe I'm just now discovering this, but I feel so blessed that there's so much on the internet that even after his death, people are still getting to know him and love him. >> It's one of the few blessings around this thing is like all the hours of tape. >> I think I saw the same one where he was like, "You guys made me obsessed with Charlie. I didn't even know him until this." >> Right now, speaking of obsessions, you two share one and Charlie tapped into it more than once. tell us >> just any sort of Taylor Swift news that come up, he would just be like, "Explain this what's happening." And then when we were in the office, when the news broke about them getting engaged and Charlie was so excited for them, he was like, "This is amazing. More people should get married and have kids. This is a great example for everyone." Like, yes, exactly. We're so happy for Taylor. >> Well, that's I have a question for about Charlie for you guys. So, I mean, he was human. There were there were people who would irritate him. I know because I talked to him about some of those people. Would he How would he handle that? Like Taylor is one of them. She came out and she endorsed Kamla. She said it was because of Kamla's LGBTQ stance of Tim Wallace actually was I mean crazy statements. So how would he get past that and then be had like he seemed to be able to do do that with everybody? I would say for the most part instead of him getting irritated by people in pop culture, it more so just went to the side of him and he wouldn't really pay attention to it till we'd be like, "Hey, this is I remember one time he's he's like, "What is Brat Summer?" Cuz everyone's talking about it. It like it didn't annoy him cuz he didn't even know about it. He was just so focused on what he needed to do. Yes. >> Somebody here is Charlie was a nerd. >> Yeah. Yeah. There you go. >> Which is fine. You know, I mean, Andrew was telling me about how they like intentionally made him not nerdy for the uh prove me wrong segments, like maybe maybe we won't wear the suit, you know, maybe we'll wear a t-shirt. And that worked, right? He gained a lot of extra fans. >> He he still was pretty alpha. We got I think we can all agree. >> Well, it's an interesting combination, right? Because he was a brainiac, but he was alpha. >> Yeah. And he was like the ultimate pinnacle example of what being a man is. And so being more like Charlie, he he never drink alcohol. He go to the gym. He always ate healthy. He always had that Starbucks order. He always took care of his, you know, vocal cords with his throat coats and everything. >> Disciplined. >> He was a disciplined alpha male. And when when he had to tap into the nerdy side of him to learn something, he would tap into >> Well, how did he So, he didn't want you to cut go to college and you agreed not to. >> And then did he put you through college? >> Yeah. Yeah. I think I learned more under Charlie, but I also one of my favorite stories of Charlie since we're all just kind of going around. literally probably my favorites. We were at the RNC and JD had just come out on stage and whether you guys know it or not, Charlie played a role in JD being the vice president. And um >> he comes out on stage. Charlie was so excited. He we snuck on the floor. We didn't have a pass. We went to the very front. It was just me and Charlie. And JD says something about Joe Biden. And this was right after the debate. And everybody was like, "Joe's got to go. Joe's got to go. Joe's got to go." And Charlie turns around, looks at me in this cinematic way, and he goes, "Careful what you wish for." And I was like, "Oh my gosh." And then the next I think a couple days later, I don't even remember Kla Harris's >> That was crazy. >> Yeah. More fundraising, more battles. Yeah. More pain, >> right? He Charlie was very funny and he had so many funny oneliners where he almost he wasn't trying to be funny but it was just those quick little ones. Like I can remember on Junth this year he sent us a video. He said I can't remember exactly what he said. He said happy Junth. I'm on my way to work. Go to work today. Everybody have a good day. >> You did not take off that national holiday. We did not. We were here working, but it was just those funny little selfie videos he would always send in our chats where most of them would get posted on TikTok or stories or whatever. Um, >> like what? Like he would send videos of himself to the team. >> Just selfie videos just doing little quick commentary on whatever was happening or just telling a story or giving updates. And it was always those really short ones that I loved the most cuz they were just so funny without trying to be funny and people loved them. >> That's hilarious. So, it wasn't necessarily for social media, but it was like for all of you. >> Yeah. And we we would post them a good amount, but it was just, you know, it was just kind of a little bit of behindthe-scenes Charlie. >> Yeah. >> That, you know, people loved to see it. >> A really fun behind-the-scenes Charlie. So, he was a sports fan and the way he would consume it had to be very intense cuz he doesn't have, you know, other than Saturday, you know, which he always was strict about taking off, you know, he didn't have the time to just lounge around watching a game. So the one I'll always remember is uh shortly after I joined uh you know we had the world cup in uh Qatar and he was all invested in the US doing well and so he was watching the World Cup games on his phone during the show and was reacting to things in the game during the segments. He'd also always have the iPad with him. He always had an iPad with him and he was always watching sports on the side. >> So the Cubs, Erica mentioned the Cubs and did she say the Ducks? big duck. >> We we have flag that we had in the studio for a while. >> Why? As >> it's where his family went to college and he he wanted to inherit a college football team and it was his he was so passionate. >> He would sometimes say, you know, I I just want to retire and go coach college football. That was what he would say if he was frustrated like I should just quit and go coach college football. >> Same with the Olympics and March Madness. We had iPads set up all around the studio. So, he would constantly know what's happening in the games. Once you've been president, uh, coaching a sports team seems like a great thing. And that was clearly in Charlie's future. All right, we're going to take a break. We'll be right back. Don't leave. [Music] [Music] surge happening of Christian interest in this country. The most popular music now for Gen Z is Christian music. Forest Frank is incred incredibly popular and growing in popularity. We are seeing even even more so than the rapper Drake, which is very very promising. And even if you listen to Forest Frank's lyrics, they're actually pretty biblically good. I mean, you could like try to nitpick, they're way better than some of the other Christian music sometimes that's gotten popular. Sure. >> And like legit like very good like submitting to God's will and his path for really there's something happening right now and it's a revival that is really surprising a lot of the experts. You see, when I was young, and you guys remember this 10 years ago, we were told that it's going to be a gradual decline of Christianity and there's no reversing it, right? That it's just this whole chapter is going to close. And we saw it in the numbers. If you saw the chart, man, when Pastor Tommy started, it was, you know, 80% of people would go to, you know, church regularly and then it was 70% and 60%, then it was 55. All of a sudden, now this last year, first time it's gone up about a point or two in the last 25 years. Almost solely because of Generation Z, just so we are clear. Almost solely because of young people. Why is this happening, Nathan? I think that it's happening because Jesus is good at his job. [Applause] He said he said that he was going to build his church. Um, and I'm going to give away my esquetology in a sentence or two. I don't believe that Jesus is coming back for a weak anemic bride. Um, that's that's what I believe. I believe, you know, I I don't believe that we're going to need to be raptured because we suck at our job and Jesus sucks at his. I believe that Jesus is coming back for a powerhouse, glorified church. I believe that. I don't think it's it's because we're amazing. I think it's because he is. He's he said he'll build his church. He's going to build an amazing church. The gates of hell won't be able to stand against us. I mean, and and the picture is the church raiding hell, not hell coming at us, right? So, um I believe that the church is going to be glorified. And you know, we're not there yet, but we're getting there. I mean, she's on the treadmill. She's doing keto, you know. So, our best days are ahead. What what lessons are you seeing of how a pastor should conduct himself in the sermons, in the messaging of what is working and what is problematic as far as not just growing the church, but like what are you seeing on the landscape? Because you deal with a lot of pastors, don't you? What are your biggest sticking points to try to keep this revival going and some of the fault lines that should be avoided? So I I believe that the the the the purpose of the church is to worship God, equip the saints, and reach the world in that order. And um as a Pentecostal, I'll speak from a Pentecostal ecclesiology. I believe that like um I believe that if we're not priests, we're going to be consumers. And one of the challenges I think that the American church is facing right now is that with the advent of the seeker sensitive movement where we're thinking about how to get people to church, you can, you know, you do we do a ton of advertising and we essentially attract a lot of consumers who are there to to to, you know, to eat essentially. And when you're a consumer, you know, you're problematizing everything, you know, oh, they didn't sing Good Father, it's my favorite song, Zero Stars, you know. Um, but when you're a priest, you come to church and you bring the sacrifice of praise. And the thing is is when there's when when when you put, you know, 1 Peter 2:5 says that you yourselves as spiritual stones are being built up into a spiritual house to be a holy priesthood to offer spiritual sacrifices. What kind? Acceptable ones to God. So when you come to church, you're not there. Welcome back everyone. I'm Megan Kelly. I'm sitting here on Charlie Kirk's set and what an honor to be hosting his show today as we simoc cast the Megan Kelly show as well. And I have to tell you, like we've been we've been joking in between the commercial breaks. Like I don't know how it's been here for you guys, but this is the first I haven't laughed this much in a week. >> I don't know. It just feels good to talk about him in a more lighthearted way because that's who he was. I mean, of course, the last thing Charlie would have wanted was for us to be all sitting around feeling sad, especially while talking about him. >> So, to me, this feels like an appropriate way of handling grief, too. Yeah. >> Um I'm joined now by two additional uh staffers for Charlie. Danny Phillip and um >> hold on Nate Walker. You're Nate and you're Danny. >> And uh Katherine Loccastro. >> Yeah. And you did all admin. You do all the Abbeby stuff. It's from the sound of it like admin organiz organizing everything. >> Yes. >> This must be so hard. I How are you handling all this? >> Yeah. Thank you. I mean, um, it's been really special to have the team that we have to lean on each other and, um, get through it together. I think it definitely has been incredibly busy and it's kind of interesting to balance the grief and the busyiness of everything, but um, I think the will to work is contagious and I mean, I'm just following Mikey's lead and Erica's lead and trying to do everything that Charlie would have wanted, which is to keep going and to just work harder than ever. So, um, yeah, definitely busy and Business is a blessing. >> It is. I mean, it's it's amazing. Charlie's life work is keeping everyone occupied in a way that I think is good and is productive. Um, so Nate, tell us what what you did for Charlie. >> Yeah, I was Charlie's um executive assistant. Um, the day-to-day Charlie, make sure he has his food, water, clothes, um, all the stuff that he doesn't need to think about. I uh would do for him. And uh, >> clothes. How'd you do clothes? >> Yeah, you figure that out. You uh, it was difficult. Not Not the easiest job. We have the clothing racks in the warehouse. >> Some days I would just have to guess, figure out what is Charlie going to want to wear today. And uh sometimes I'd be right, sometimes not. But >> Well, can I ask you this is um not not to take it to a darker place, but we're all wearing these freedom shirts, the same shirt that Charlie was wearing. Yeah. >> On the day he was killed. >> What is there a story behind this shirt? >> Yeah. So, we uh we usually bring a couple shirts um to the to the campus stops and uh I asked Charlie in the car. I go, "Charlie, what what shirt do you want to wear?" He goes, "I want to wear the freedom shirt." That uh that's not controversial. >> What were the other options? >> Oh, I can't I can't remember. >> Like does he did he did he wear like the one that my son has with Trump giving double middle fingers? >> No, no, no. Twice. Not those ones. >> It would always say something never surrender. Here I am. Freedom. It was he he liked his short tagline. >> I was actually when you guys asked if I would wear this on the air, I was so honored and I'm >> I feel like I have such a treasure having this shirt, you know? I this is such a treasure now. Um Danny, what did you do for for Charlie? >> Um so I did like research and prep for him for the show. >> Oh wow. >> Meetings, events. >> That's a heavy lift. >> Yeah. Stuff like that >> because he was meticulous. >> Yeah. And then it would also be like, okay, 5 minutes before the event starts, I need more on this. So >> find more on this specific person or something like that. So it was always something >> like what what did what was he like in that in that way? What like what would interest him? He would be interested in the most specific stuff sometimes and then sometimes he wouldn't care. Um Mikey probably knows about this too, but yeah, he would want very specific details on very specific things that really no one else would think about. Yeah. >> Then other times he'd just be like, I'm just going to wing it. I got it covered. >> And then you'd probably hear that stuff actually come up in one of the Q&As's on the on the Prove Me Wrong segments like, oh, wait a minute. Actually, he needed that. >> Right. that I mean that's everyone's marveling right now on the internet at Charlie's depth of knowledge about everything. How how can anyone here explain that? How >> Yeah, he was diligent as we said earlier on on the show. >> Was he constantly studying? >> Constantly studying, reading a book, and his time management was impeccable. If he didn't have time to read a book, he'd have Blake read a book for him, Danny read a book for him, and he'd have people come out and mentor him and talk to him about details. and Frank Turk would be here and he would pour into Charlie and Charlie be taking, you know, meticulous notes and study it and then everything was focused towards his campus tours. He wanted to give knowledge that he could glean from the world to all these students across America. >> That's an interesting question. Was it was the were the campus tours the his dominant focus or was it the big student events or was it the show? >> It was it was everything. It was everything and how he was able to manage it all. I I don't think anybody will really know. and he was a he he slept and he still was able to do normal human things while managing a million tasks. >> I can't imagine you trying to get him to like sit down with you and go over logistics when he is this, you know, busy and and important. >> Corelling him and Mikey was definitely a challenge at times, but sometimes I would say, I just need 30 seconds. I have a few things I need to go over. And so, >> would you just send him a video on the group chat? >> I need you. >> Yeah, that would have been helpful. But you just needed a little bit of time to nail things down and we had a good routine. So, >> you know, you seem like somebody who can handle that and not everybody has those executive management skills. So, just meeting all of you, it's very clear you had a very clear eye for talent and everyone here is so young. I just feel I'm so sorry that you've had such a tragedy at such a young point in your lives. We're going to be right back. [Music] acceptable sacrifice has a divine response. Every single time we give God what he's asked for, he always shows up in fire. Right? It's amazing. So, that to me is what gets me excited about the church. And I'm seeing that shift and and and I, you know, us Pentecostals, I mean, we're we're all about the presence of God, but I believe that evangelicals are. I believe that Catholics are. And I believe that there's a shift that's going from how, you know, the cons drawing consumers to let's teach people to be priests. When people come in, they're they're going to experience the byproduct, which is the presence of God. It'll wreck people. People don't need to come to church to get David Gogggins. They can get that on Instagram, you know, like they don't need TED talks. They can already get that. What people need is encounter with Jesus Christ, you know, and the power of the Holy Spirit. >> Amen. What So I I I totally agree. I actually think paradoxically that's why the Catholic Church is growing because in the Catholic own approach and I have such great respect for Catholics. I know we have some in the audience here and I want us to actually dive into our agreements, not our dis disagreements, whatever that we all we all know those. I actually think though that the reason why Catholicism is growing for young people especially is that there is an emphasis on the holiness and the experience with God and there is an an an emphasis on the aesthetically and the do you agree with that? >> I'll tell you right now I think the most beautiful thing about the Catholic Church is the mass and rather the Eucharist. So, Catholics don't go to mass to to get uh you know a TED talk. They go there to encounter Jesus through communion. I think that's beautiful. Um Baptists, for example, they go to church to encounter Christ through the preached word. John Piper says that the primary way of gazing upon Christ is through his words. I love that. So, when we're emphasizing how do we encounter God, that's when the church is winning. Um and I know that we do that in different ways. Um but but I think that that that Catholics >> what are what are some of the other ways? Worship obviously singing, prayer, repentance. >> Absolutely. Yeah. Like exactly. So uh prayer, um gathering, uh the preaching of the word, communion, uh praise, giving your tithes and your offerings. I mean that's literally you being the priest, your offering. Lord, this is a symbol of my life and I'm giving it to you in obedience to you. And I know that when I do this, you show up in my life. fires coming on the altar of my life when I offer this to you. It's like really holy. It's really really amazing. So, um all those different ways and the church is meant to facilitate worship and that's I think what we're going to continue to do. >> What are on the horizon some of the great threats to the church? We obviously identify deconstructionism, progressivism, wokeism. Do you think they've grown in the last couple of years or are they decreasing in number? I I feel as if that's becoming less and less fashionable. I could name at least 10 major pastors in the last couple of years that are coming coming in our direction. I mean, we here at Freedom Night thanks to Dream City Church. We've been doing this since 2021. I mean, we were very early adopters, but Nathan, are are they increasing? Are they decreasing? Like, give us a little status report. >> Is deconstruction increasing? Is that >> or progressivism in the church? >> Yeah, look, I I think that there's obviously a battle. Um, and I think that there's been a battle since the church's inception, you know, like there was there were external and internal threats. Um, we had we were fighting heresies for the first four 500 years of church history.nosticism and and and mysticism. >> Absolutely. Exactly. So, um I think that there's we're always going to have these, you know, Jesus even said like there's going to be um you know, people will have itching ears and and there's when Paul's talking to Timothy, he's just saying, "Check your doctrine. Check your doctrine. Check your doctrine. Check your doctrine." So, uh there's there's all kinds of people that are going to be um they're going to have mythologies and philosophies and they're going to be trying to take power, etc. So, I think that we're always going to be dealing with these types of of existential problems, theological problems, and um it's it's it is what it is. There's going to be people that are going to claim to be the Messiah, and they're going to be, you know, claiming to, you know, like the apostles, and they're going to be uh you know, when Paul is writing to defend his apostilhip, there's going to be people that are going to be claim claim claim to be this and claim to be that. So, I don't think that it's deconstruction isn't alarming. is on trend for what's been happening the last 2,000 years. That's what I would just say. >> Let's close with a threat that I talk a lot about that I think the church needs to more educate ourselves. I'll put I'll use the third person singular here like the the plural. Um that we need to educate ourselves better and that is Islam. >> And I I don't think we're quite equipped and understand the spiritual ramifications here. I mean if you go online everyone wants to talk about Israel all the time. Fine. But like, okay, why don't we talk about Islam? Actually, the religion of a billion people that many of whom are taking over the entire European continent and we're about to have a Muslim mayor of New York City and we have no idea what they believe or what it is. And so, should Christians care about this, Nathan? I mean, some pastors say, "Well, they believe different stuff than we believe." And how should we think about Islam? >> Yeah. I mean, I think that it would you should read how the first thousand years of pastors and thinkers in the in the church like the Petristics, how they thought about Islam. It's actually pretty shocking because Islam hasn't really changed all that much. It's still very militant. It's it's I think that u that dismissing it as just another religion is naive. It is it is incredibly politically and ideologically and militantly driven um in a way that like for example Buddhism is just not um so not all religions are the same. So it's naive to kind of classify it's a religion and it just goes in this clause. It's like Islam is not like that. It does not behave like that. >> Is it a religion? >> I would say that it would be naive to just to compare it to Buddhism to compare it to Jehovah's Witnesses. I think it is a political ideology that it's it's it's a religion political ideology that is inseparable from those two things and it's militant >> and and this is the this is the most important thing we as Christians we are able to separate our church and state in fact sometimes we want more Christians to get involved in the state but there is no mosque and state separation in Islam >> correct >> it does not exist >> that teaching has never existed and therefore this is why so many Muslims run for political office because not only are they interested, they're commanded to try to institute what they call the ummah, which is the covering of the earth. >> Correct. >> And there is a Islamic illiteracy that we have in the west. >> And honestly, shame on us as Christians for not talking about this more >> and at the core this is an immigration issue. >> Yeah. >> But Nathan, I'm told by Christians, we must open up our borders to all people at all times, no matter what because that's what Jesus would do, >> right? Yeah. So, I mean, yeah. Where did Jesus say that? Right. That's you know [Applause] I I think there's there's this misunderstanding about uh who like neighbors and families, you know. So um for example, like I love Japan. I love how Japanese it is. I love how foreign it is, you know, like they do their own thing over there and it's wonderful. If you ever been there, it's just like you're just it's it's like it's incredible, you know, like their food and the way that they organize themselves on elevators and escalators and you know, they're just there. So I would never want to live there, but I love visiting there and I appreciate their culture and the cultural differences, but I don't want to be Japanese. I don't want to live in Japan. Does that make sense? So, I think that one of the issues is that people think that if you don't want to be it, you hate it. And and that that's one of the issues is that people are like, well, America needs to be everything. It's like, what if America is American? You know, like what? That's okay. It's why do Americans have to hate their own culture and destroy their own culture? See, multi I'm Canadian and I understand what multiculturalism is. And multiculturalism is the death of the dominant culture. That's exactly what it is. >> Exactly. Like I don't recognize my hometown anymore. In fact, when I go back to Canada, I don't Do you know what it means to be Canadian? Nothing. It means nothing to be a Canadian now. Justin Trudeau, our our the you know, the clown that was in there for 10 years that destroyed my country. Um he called Canada the first postnational country. Meaning that the only thing that we have in common is that we have nothing in common. That's what it mean. That's that's >> so good. And it just destroys the social fabric. Um you think that people would get along but it's the exact opposite. They don't get along. People don't work together. People are the Hindus are hating the Sikhs. The Sikhs are hating the Muslims. The Muslim. It is just absolute and total chaos right now in my country. Nobody wants to work together. So, [Music] [Music] welcome back everyone to the Charlie Kirk show. I'm Megan Kelly sitting in for Charlie and simal casting now on SiriusXM on the Megan Kelly show as well which is perfect for me. That's perfect. The two of us kind of holding hands. >> Yeah. >> And doing the shows together which is what we did when he was with us. >> Mikey, let me ask you because >> there are a lot of questions in conservative circles now about what's going to happen with the organization because Turning Point's become very important to a lot of people. >> Yeah. >> And >> I I hope there are no turf wars. I hope there's nothing like no it has to go this way. No, it has to go that way. I think, you know, choosing Erica to be Charlie's successor is the perfect way to stop all that. Yeah. >> Just to keep it consistent with Charlie's vision, >> but what are your thoughts on how you keep it consistent with what Charlie wanted and keep it going? >> Yeah. >> Without him? >> Yeah. Um Erica said it the other night. Um he was a he was an excellent person to pick people. He loved picking people and choosing talent, finding talent, and acquiring talent. and he would want to pluck somebody and bring them on the team if they were good at a job. Um, but I was telling you earlier with Erica that for the first time I got a little emotional two days ago because for the first time when I was talking to her about where the organization's going, how we're going to continue Charlie's legacy, how we're going to really 10x this organization to become what what Charlie inevitably wanted it to become. I I hearing her thoughts and the way she was talking and breaking things down. I felt like for the first time I was speaking to Charlie for the first time again. Um and he told her everything. He private conversations, everything. He was shared with Erica. She knew everything. And from the way she texts to the way she talks and I I can confidently say that I feel like it's Charlie still lea
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