Andrew Kolvet and the Thought Crime Crew Remember Charlie Kirk: Behind-the-Scenes Stories of Faith, Vision, and Legacy

of slow motion national decline is a choice. Today is our 2-year-old's birthday. And I look at my daughter and that is my why. For those that are parents, you know exactly what I mean. There is no mountain that stands tall as your faithfulness. There is no river that runs wide as your goodness. [Music] Man, Charlie, uh I I remember when we were starting these out and it was that like that, you know, it was like this. It was like it was like your average three rows. It was like your average political meeting where there was like 12 people in a room and uh this is this is awesome. This, in my personal opinion, was the most over-the-top Trump event that I've ever covered. This is the number one boots on the ground operation in the country. We're working directly in harmony with the Trump campaign. It's been vetted. It's been cleared. It's been blessed as you can see there. And we're going to try to win this thing. No guarantees. It's what we do that matters. Mr. President, I can tell you this room is 100% with you. and we have your back. God bless you. Thank you. [Music] [Applause] [Music] As you know, we are heading on campus here momentarily at the University of South Florida, throwing it down with the students. It's going to be a lot of fun. Uh we are excited to continue this cultural movement that we have started at Turning Point USA. More high school chapters, more college chapters, and disagreement is not just welcome, it is invited. We want to have those tough conversations. That's what it's all about. [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] because you're not supposed to be involved in this. You're supposed to just kind of be on the vote for me every four years, give me more political power and stay out of my business. And what has happened is we are seeing an explosion in citizen participation. There is nothing else following me. All my days your mercy follow me. [Applause] Oh, there is nothing else I'll ever need. Knock on that extra door. Go that extra mile. talk to that extra friend because throughout voting month and culminating on the 5th of November, I believe it will go down as a day that people remember as a day that is written about in history books as the final battle from the golden escalator on down from defeating Hillary Clinton from the nonsense of 2020 from Butler, Pennsylvania, November 5th, it all culminates where we restore the promise that the founders gave us and they said, "Hey, If the people want it, the people get it. And we the people take back America. God bless Arizona. And thank you so much. [Music] Every day the American people demand certain accomplishments and victories. Disagreement is what keeps a movement alive, keeps a movement fun. Here in this country, we are a country of flourishing. We're a country of risk-taking. We're a country of building. We will achieve American greatness. And we are just getting started. All my days your mercy followed me. [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] Welcome to the Charlie Kirk show. This is Andrew Kulvit filling in for the one and only Charlie Kirk. Nobody can. And um we wanted so badly to do this show for all of you today. And I wanted the friends of this show and of Charlie that knew him best, the thought crime crew to be here in the studio to commemorate our friend, our dear brother for this sacred and solemn moment, this occasion none of us ever dreamed we would have to do. And here we are. Because Charlie would want us to be here. He would be upset if we weren't here. And we of course have left his chair open and empty because nobody will ever fill it. Nobody could ever hope to. But by all of us together, we want to honor him and we want to be more like him and we want to be inspired by him and we want you in the audience to know him like we knew him. and to be up close and personal to the front row seat to history, to a legend, to an American icon that we got every single day. And I don't know why we were so for fortunate and blessed to be those people, those few that got to see it so up close. He touched millions. He personally knew tens of thousands. And somehow we were the blessed ones that got to be close to him. And in the chats, we got yelled at by him. We got pushed to more and to be better because of Charlie and by Charlie. And so we have to my right Jack Bobic, Blake Nef, and Tyler Boyer, and myself, Andrew Kulvit, the executive producer of the Charlie Kirk show. And we are so honored to share what we know about Charlie and to do it on a day where the authorities tell us that his killer has been brought into custody. And I want to say personally thank you to Cash Patel and Dan Bonino, Governor Cox. You told us you would not stop until you got him. And I admit that my faith wavered at times as the hour stretched on. but you uh appear to have the suspect in custody and we're grateful that you have not slept, you did not rest just like you promised and um you are men of your word and we are grateful to you. And so with that um I just want to again welcome my friends and um Jack I'm going to start with you. Um tell us what's on your heart right now brother. Well you know it's like I know the seat looks empty, but it's not. The seat isn't empty at all. Cuz in a way, Charlie is the only thing we're all thinking about right now. We can't think of anything else really. We can't think straight. And we can read and we can talk, but at the end of the day, all we're thinking about is Charlie. And we know that Charlie is looking down on us. And I know that when we all gather here, it's like he's here. Yeah. And that's and that's why no one wants to sit there because he is there. I um we are saying thank you just there. And the only thing that I guess I would add is you know we're hearing these reports that um family members of the suspect were involved particularly the father in bringing him to the police, bringing him to the authorities. And if that's true, um, I just like to extend a sincere thank you and gratitude to something like that. As as a father, I I can't even imagine. I just I can't even imagine what that what that must be like. But to have done that is is just shows the ultimate goodness and the ultimate righteousness that still does exist in this country and the fact that people are willing to step up and do the right thing even in impossible odds. And that's the Charlie Kirk spirit. That's always been the Charlie Kirk spirit is to stare down impossible odds and say, "I'm gonna do it anyway, when everybody told him he couldn't." And that's that's the Charlie Kirk I know that when you told him he couldn't do it, he'd say, "Figure it out." Tyler, I'm sure he told you that more times than you can count. I uh I've just It's been really hard. I I mean, we've we've been able to lean on each other, I think, talking a lot to one another about uh the memories and uh that's probably I think the most uh the most important thing that we can do today is share those memories. I've been telling everybody that's reached out on our staff. I mean, we've we've hired thousands of people in Turning Point. Uh and it hasn't been easy. It's been part of the the battle and Charlie. It's like I'm going to miss those, right Tyler? You know, conversations when we are sitting around because it's you don't really know the battles unless you've been in them. But there's so many people that have looked at Charlie along the way as uh as a a mentor that all have different emotions and they have different stories and I've told people, "Write them down." every single person that's that's reached out to me that I'm so sorry, Tyler. I'm like, please just write down your memories that you had because some of these stories are so unbelievably funny. They're so unbelievable in general because um God's hand has been such a big part of Charlie's story and legacy. I'm so sorry. No, it's it's we're we're all right there. We're all right there. And for those of us that have been close, like we've talked about, we've seen uh Evan's hand as part of that. And and that has to be that has to be uh accentuated because that's what Charlie wanted. We talked about that all the time with with uh people invested in turning point uh all the major stakeholders that you know a lot of people look at this is oh political d political dynamo uh the dynamics of all of that but all of this has been uh you know even through this tragic this tragic week um I believe that uh that God has been with Charlie from day one and and will continue to I Blake, I want to you're you're next, buddy, so get ready. But um I want to just comment on what you're saying because one of the last uh trips that I took with Charlie was a couple weeks ago and we were flying all over the country, spent hours on the plane and um I said to him, "Isn't it crazy?" Like, you know, we were talking about South Park, we were talking about just everything. like we just kind of had a moment and he's just like, "Yeah, it's all God." Just he just instantly goes, "Yeah, it's all God. It's all God." And as I was driving to the office in the studio this morning, I thought to myself, it was always God. And God has not pulled his hand away from Charlie Kirk. It did not pull his hand away from Turning Point. He did not pull his hand away from this country. It was always God that got us here. There were so many times, and I want the audience to know this, there were so many times where we felt like our backs were so against the wall that we were not going to get through whatever it was. Y that you this thing happened or you know this there was just so many things. It's impossible right now. Now's not the time to get into into the details. There was just so many things and Charlie and I would feel the weight of the world when we would talk to each other. And I know you felt it. I know you felt it. I know you felt it. And then we got through it and it was God. And somehow we came out stronger and better and uh with and Charlie had more influence and and our reach and our staff and everything just kept growing time and time again. And he knew that it was all God's hand. He knew it was all the blessing of God on him and on this organization and on the show. Yesterday I said I said Charlie's on assignment from God and he always has been. you every time you filled in for Charlie, you said, "Well, Charlie's on assignment." And so now he's on assignment from God. He's on and he always was. So we are live on national radio right now. Um and so we have to take a quick radio break for the stream. We're going to keep going. Um and Real America, Real America's Voice, we're going to keep going. Um so don't go anywhere. We'll be right back. [Music] All right, Blake, it is your turn. And um I I want everybody to know that probably nobody traveled with Charlie more than Blake uh in the last I'd say 18 months. Um except my maybe Mikey. Mikey for sure. Mikey. But you traveled to London with him. You went to Korea with him. Um Blake, the floor is yours. Thanks. Uh I I feel I feel unworthy to be here. Uh you guys all knew him a lot longer than I did. Uh compared to a lot of people here. Charlie entered my life pretty recently. I remember you called me out of the blue almost exactly three years ago. uh first week of October 22. And I don't want to get into the details of it, but I can say uh Charlie had a drastic impact on my life. He he basically gave me my life back and I don't know how to express how grateful I am for that and how just over the past three years how how much I came to admire him not just for how talented of a person he was but but how good of a person he was and out everything he fought for was because he believed it would be good for the country and good for every single person in it. And I'll always think one of the, you know, the final things I was doing with him, I mentioned with you, Jack, yesterday. Yeah. The last speech he gave was in Japan to an audience, Buddhist, no Buddhists, Shinto. No, no Christians in it. Maybe a handful, but not many. And you know, it was about immigration, it was about other stuff, but he wanted to include I should witness to the faith, you know, regardless of where we're going. And we talked about how he could do that. And we put it into the speech 5 minutes before he went up there. And he did it. And cuz it was that important to him that he do that. It wasn't about just, you know, he wasn't catering to any audience. This is a speech almost nobody in the US would ever see or watch. And most of the audience in Japan might not even get it, but he wanted to do it cuz it was important to him. And we get that just a minute before that footage when it happened. Uh, you know, he he was witnessing to the gospel there at the college. And Blake, I'm it makes me it gives me some solace and some comfort to know that you were there with him on campus that day. And um I was just grateful to be able to call you and know that that I at least had somebody that was there and that loved him and that was close and I could call you. And um I'm just glad you were there, man. It's it's not it's not good. It's not fair to you that you had to be there, but I'm glad that I'm glad that you were. And you and I and Charlie were texting literally moments before he went out to the crowd and we were talking about uh arguments and finer points that he could make and he going over, you know, this kind of question. I you know, we should what it was about he was what are the good arguments in favor of of marriage? marriage, the Christian version of marriage. And it was, you know, that gets back to, you know, one of the other core things, how much he how much he loved Erica, how much he loved their children, how much and how and you know, how much he cared for them and how it really demonstrates the power of that, you know, familial love cuz we all talked about how they made him better, too. And isn't that the truth? You see you see Charlie like pre Erica and then Charlie post Erica and it's and it's it's still Charlie but it's like more better better clothes they actually fit. No, we were just talking about this yesterday. I and he's a father and I I know it was like night and day difference. So we used to like I used to be worried about Charlie Jackson is legitimately the real MVP. I don't just mean the fashion. I don't just mean the fashion. We were talking about Charlie's birthday. I was talking about that. It's it's it's rough. The visible point. Charlie's birthday is in about a month and and we used to I used to buy him clothes on his birthday as an excuse to buy him like sneakers cuz he wouldn't wear sneakers. He would only wear dress shoes. That's right. And then Erica came and then he wor I was like so relieved cuz he would wear clothes that like he he he'd look better than anyone like a normal person. No, he looked better than everybody because Eric is incredibly stylish and great and just it was just like he went from like the the stone age to like he now had this incredibly well manicured dress. Let me let's I love this this uh vein. We want to tell you about Erica and we're going to welcome back National Radio. So, we'll be right back. Uh don't go anywhere. [Music] Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk show. This is Andrew Kulvette, executive producer of this fine show as uh Charlie Kirk has gone on assignment with God. And uh we his friends are here remembering him and we uh we were just talking about Erica Kirk and uh the before and after Erica Kirk u story is a really amazing story and I did I was trying to make a plan. I knew you were going emotional, spiritual. I have uh I have been basically crying for two and a half days. Uh and I um I I was just I remembering Charlie being uh when I first met him, it was like everything was baggy and like the suits didn't fit and like the collars were always like out like this cuz they're playing those those videos now when he's younger. I was showing I was showing Andrew a an image. It was so funny because studio, can we get like an OG CK shot with his I can I'll I'll send one that's like a perfect one. That's But he was a before and after shot. It was like a very baggy suit and it just But you know what? This is this is kind of very This isn't with a suit, but this was like No, no, no. I got a I've got a I got a perfect one. But anyways, the point is is like but his his spirit shine through so brightly. It didn't matter. That it didn't matter. No. Like that's what it was like. I remember being in some of these meetings. I was like, "Oh my gosh." Like cuz he would carry around the backpack. He had this big black backpack that has his his initials on it. He had that forever and he had forever one one pair of shoes, dress shoes that he wore and then the these big but it didn't matter. Like none of that mattered. every single person that talked to him, every one of these big time donors early on, like big time. I mean, they had he would just just be able to break through to every single one of those people. And um well, it was always it was it was his unique voice. And this is why Charlie um would go viral on campus. He would never pull any punches. The guy would say uh he would say the truth with 100% fidelity. Do you know what I mean? It was like men and women like, you know, are different. You know, two two sexes like you never there's no equivocation. No, there was no like, well, some people feel this. No, it was like, you know, it's wrong when people steal. Does it make it okay that they were poor? No, it's wrong, right? You know, and it was just he had this moral clarity that he was just blessed by God with and he would not cut any corners with it. And um and so, yeah, it didn't matter the suit he was wearing. didn't matter his fashion. Although I will tell you, but Erica Erica made his looks much better. And I will also tell you that his friends Don Jr. Gentry Beach, you know, they gave him like a gift card at one point, a $10,000 uh like credit at uh the Trump Taylor in New York City in Manhattan to get him some proper suits. It was It was like one of these things that Charlie, if you're going to be around, you got If you're going to hang around with us, Charlie, we need you to got to look a little bit more put together. You got to take care of that a little bit. Yeah, it was I mean it was a Oh my gosh, Tyler, get this get this up. You have to see this is the pre pre Erica and then Erica came in and then looked immediately I love it. I mean, no. Immediately better. I mean, I'm I'm not even kidding. He's like, "Sorry, Charlie. We got to The real miracle is that Erica went for it." You know what I mean? She's seen the you know, the baggy shirt. No, I mean, she knew. He knew. No, but that's that's that's female, right? That's the female. My Tanya was the same with me. It's it's the female. I I see I see the thing and I want to nurture it. I want to grow it. Angelo could see a block of marble and he would just bring the David out. He's like David's already in there. I just have to reveal it. I want to say it's typically not a good idea to say I think I I uh I could change this man or something for the women watching. But you can polish it. They're not Yeah. Not not the deeper. No, not the deeper bringing forth. And you could never change Charlie's spirit, right? But exactly right, but but what she what she did, I think if anything, just in terms of this, is make it so that the external match the internal. Sure. And I will say as well though that Charlie's faith became so much stronger as soon as Erica came around and he started vocalizing it more. And for those of you in the audience that don't know Erica Kirk, the woman is a lioness. She is fierce. She is strong. She's obviously like distraught and hurting um as we all are. But um she is fierce and she is strong. And I want you to know that about her that um I have seen her up close and Tyler, you've been there as well with us. Um, and uh, she is so strong and Charlie wanted to marry her because of how strong she was. And ultimately he knew that she could she could do this life that he was leading. And Charlie was already leading a crazy life when they met and when they fell in love and when they got married. And he he knew that she had the strength in her core. And she was also she is also such an incredible woman of faith. He knew that she could do this. And he was 100% right about Erica Kirk. She is truly something amazing and we all love her dearly. Radio. We'll be right back. [Music] Tyler, why don't you tell the story of how uh you inadvertently connected Charlie with his wife? So, it's it's it's this is the miracle of the entire thing, which is incredible. And I don't think we can talk about it enough. It's Trump. It's Erica. It's Arizona. It's Turning Point. It's You couldn't script this any better. Can I Let me tell Let me just set two points. I told a little bit of it yesterday. Yeah. Tyler, I think you've told this story a few times on the show, so let's like big big big picture context here. Tyler pulled off the first Trump rally, the very first one in Arizona. And there's a lot of crazy details that go into it, but the first one, Tyler gets the credit, but but the most important part of that truly in the background is that Erica Kirk is at that rally. And we don't focus on We've talked about the rally and all that with Trump getting reelected. She's in the background of the the main shot. So, right behind Trump, people don't know this. I I we can put it up. There is right behind Trump on stage first Trump rally ever. And again, they were expecting this to be a 100 person rally. They were like wanting to give uh like refreshments. You didn't even call it a rally, right? Well, so the original Cory Luwendowski Cory Lundowski was like, "Can you get a 100 people in a room? We'll provide refreshments. We'll give you money, whatever." And I'm like, "No, no, no. We don't we don't need any of that. We can get lots of people there." And we started doing this and it starts to go bonkers, right? because I'll give credit to Jake Hoffman who is the the pre uh the president of the Freedom Caucus here. He's a state senator. He was my unpaid comm's director who was actually the guy that helped start Charlie's Instagram with me and start all the turning point like all the turning point assets that we we have on social media now by the way too. But we started just going bonkers with all the media. And so then I started fielding calls from everywhere. It was crazy everywhere. And one of the calls I got was from Erica. She's like, "Hey, I was Miss Arizona. I love Donald Trump. Can I be involved?" I'm like, "Absolutely." So, I met I met her and I was like, "We've got to put her behind the president." So, I had my family behind the president, my grandpa who just passed away just a few months ago who loved Charlie, loved the show, everything. Listen daily. It was my grandpa, my dad-in-law, Lauren, my wife, and Erica is up there. Yeah. So, Erica, afterwards, we got to find the picture after this. up. I'll pull it up. After this rally, uh, I meet with Erica and I'm like, there's a way that we can she's she's faith-based. So, this is the funniest part. She's faith-based. She's so centered on Christ. We've got to lean in and involve her here with because we were starting the initial talks about Turning Point Faith or TP USA faith and I was trying to recruit her hard to come work for us. And so through all that uh I had introduced her to Charlie. I was like I think she could be great. She could be wonderful. And Charlie was immediately in love. Absolutely in love. And I was like Charlie going back and that's where it's like the tea up with you know the clothes everything else. I was like Charlie I don't know like this this a little more. He well this has been Sarah's notice. I was I was nervous. I'm like I don't know if we we don't want to scare her away, right? Like we want her to work for us, you know? So but like that's great. Let's just feel out. And so Charlie did the right. He did everything perfectly as Charlie always does. Uh did everything perfectly. I dropped him. I dropped them off. I dropped him off. He was at the office here, which he was rarely at the office because he's always on the plane. And he had set up a date to go meet her at the gym because that that she was it was it's a it's a fancier, nicer gym that's in the North Valley. And I dropped them I took him over and I dropped him off there. And I was it was the whole car ride over there was pep talk. All right. this is what you got to do. This is what this is what you got to say. Hey, if she says this, don't do that. And he's like, "Oh, what do I do if like this?" Cuz Charlie had had a number of dates, but not that many people. He's busy. He's a busy guy. He just didn't Yeah. Yeah. And so, uh, he it went immaculately. And after that, they had met again in New York where she was living at the time. And he had made a a special trip just to go there. Yeah. He made an excuse. This is what Charlie would do. He would he would he would go somewhere and he would make an excuse that was like a formal reason to be there, but there was always kind of like a an ulterior motive where you know, but it was I I'll never like and this these are the memories. cuz I'm I'm putting out a tweet right now that's saying just write down these memories because I until just now I just forgot about that was like driving him over in in my car just having that conversation which was just like and again Andrew I know you've had many of these all of us have had many of these conversations oneonone with Charlie of just like the pep talks because you know even though Charlie was such a a lion of a of a man it takes a village I think of of like having those conversations with one another takes a family it takes a family. Yeah. But he he would position people in places to be able to speak to him and give him like that like before he took the stage like okay okay okay okay you know but he would always it's like he would always just want that even though you knew that he didn't need it and he right no but you know the other thing is he you'd think you had a really good idea and you're like no and I give it to him and be like okay okay and then he would always take chew the meat and spit out the bones he would he was always so good at filtering out your your bad ideas without like making you feel terrible. Uh we got to uh um uh welcome back radio. So all right, welcome back to our national radio audience at the Charlie Kirk show. We are remembering the one and only Charlie Kirk. Um and uh it's his friends that are doing it. Um I'm joined by Jack Pobic, Blake Nef, another producer on the show. Um, and uh, Tyler Boyer, the COO of Turning Point Action, who helped Charlie uh, meet his lovely bride, and that's what we're currently talking about. Well, and that's like to that point, Erica became that person like you were saying, right? Erica became the person that would uh, you know, and it was a two-way road. You know, you'd have to filter out some of Charlie's bad ideas, too, at times. And Erica is, you know, has become the best at that. she is the uh the go-to and I know that um that was the most valuable thing but to put a pen in it that that weird situation though which was that moment where I was sitting there with Charlie and the Trump rally culminated and Eric was there and then became his wife like the entire thing is like again you talk about God things clearly God has his head had had his hand um and watching over Charlie constantly well This is the Charlie Kirk show and I want we we we played sorry we played a a um an opening uh but the but radio didn't get to hear that um and we put together a Charlie Kirk uh which number is it Blake? Do you have it? We put together a um just a montage of some great Charlie Kirk moments. Um and I think it is 443 is the number. Um, we put together a montage uh for the audience of Charlie in his own words and he loved this show um so much. He loved this show and um he I remember one time when I I talked to him and I I said who who's your greatest hero and in this space you know obviously Donald Trump's the president and you know that was the obvious answer but like no Trump you know like who's and he said Rush Limba. Yeah. And um Charlie got to know Rush personally. Um I think we had basically the last big event that uh that Rush did was introducing the president. Yeah. The last two. So So he never made public appearances. Yeah. Um and he very private person. He came to uh our event at Mara Lago. So we were one of the first groups to do anything with fundraisers, things like that at Mara Lago. People don't people don't know that. We actually did it very small. But Rush had such a personal connection uh with Charlie. And this is kind of early too before Charlie was kind of a known quantity everywhere. Uh really leaned in and showed up. Yeah. And uh Charlie actually went to Rush's house, picked him up in the car and drove him drove him there and we had Yeah. We we gave He lived he lived right up the street. Yeah. In West Palm Beach or he lived in Palm Beach. Um so he Yeah. But Rush was his hero and he he listened to Rush. Uh Rush was so influential in just the way Charlie thought about politics. And and if you want to know why Charlie never lost the grassroots. He was always so into the grassroots, it's because you emailed him. It's because he looked at all the your emails. He looked at all the comments. He he he could do 48 things it seemed like at once. The the the the most amazing multitasker I've ever seen. When I would be here and we'd be on the show during breaks, even I'm going to say it, even sometimes when interviewing people, he'd be looking at the camera and yet somehow also on his computer, switching between tabs, texting, emailing, reading faster than you could even like grasp what was going on. emails he would share like in the middle of a show segment like right after you came out or even like in between someone else giving an answer. Oh, Jack, you got to check out this. Here's this email I got from Look at this. Look at And you're like reading the last three things that he sent you. He's always two steps ahead. And his speed was I I have no idea how he did it. And he's and these are and and what's crazy too is you could see it would be like, "Oh, hey, I got something from the speaker of the house. Oh, here's the president's son." And then like he here's a guy I met walking his dog and he needs a ballot. Tyler, make sure this guy gets a ballot, you know, like like it it didn't make any difference to him who he was talking to, but he never lost sight of the grassroots. And one of the one of the guiding lights for that and we set up freedom charliekirk.com and please send your tributes to Charlie, your thoughts, your prayers, anything that's on your mind uh to freedomkirk.com and I will do my best to read them. And Blake, you're going to help read them. and Jack and Tyler and we want to see what you have to say to Charlie. That's freedom at charliekirk.com. And Rush always had his email dialogue with his listeners. And Charlie took note of that and that it kept him close to the people because this world can get very insulating. And it's and Charlie never let that happen. That's why he went to college campuses because he learned and he knew and he he saw what kids were really thinking. He always made such a point to stay so close to the public even though he was so stratospherically like famous. I we couldn't take him anywhere. I mean, it was really at that point of of of stardom and fame that we couldn't take Charlie anywhere. But it all started with a love of the spoken word and what Rush Limba told him. And he would take lunch breaks from school just to listen to Rush Limba. And so to have this show and to be behind the microphone um was one of the greatest honors of his life. and he did not take it for granted. He loved it and he saw it as a way to pipe the the vanguard of the current thinking on the current debates into the zeitgeist and to keep the base steady and keep the coalition together. So, without further ado, I want to play uh the show tribute that our team put together. I haven't seen it yet, so I can't wait to watch it. This is 443. I want to thank my great friend Charlie Kirk. He's done something that is just incredible for somebody really of his age. You need tremendous talent to do what he's done. Building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA. And I want to thank you really, Charlie. Incredible job. Amazing [Music] grace. How sweet. I have the greatest job in the world. I couldn't be happier. Every day I feel as if what I'm saying, what I'm doing is making a difference, giving people meaning. Charlie, you should have emotion. This is a moment. You totally reformed the GOP and look what you guys have done. to hear some words here from you, Charlie. You put all this together, my man. Let's hear it. I I am just humbled by God. God's grace. It's all God. It's all God. God alone. It's done. It's done. It's beginning. We did not earn this. This This is This is God's mercy on our country. Yes. You're on You're on the Lord's side. He's not Last week, we welcomed our beautiful daughter into the world. most important thing that one can do except giving your life to Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior. Uh we uh Erica and I and our family were celebrating the birth of our son. I'm just I'm finding out how honest you are, Charlie. And so far you I think you're doing good and I hope I'm doing good with you. Candace Owens, welcome back. Yes, good to be back on the Charlie Kirk show. So Megan, there's a lot happening right now and I recently went on the Bill Maher show. I want to get your reaction. Matt, walk us through the decadesl long journey from 2015 to today on the public opinion battle. Michael, why are people going back to church? People are going back to church because the atheism ran out of steam. Ben, thank you for taking the time. I was moved by your podcast on Monday about how we must stare the evil in the face. Pete, you're doing a phenomenal job. I just want to say that from the American people that uh you don't get the credit uh that you deserve obviously in the mainstream media. We are here with Steven K. Bannon, Charlie, I'm I never roll through this town without seeing you. It's always the highlight. Well, it's uh it's that's the advantage of being in Phoenix is that you're like one of the only shows in town, so everyone kind of just comes on by. I'm sick of people stealing my stick. Wait, so a campus thing I've been doing for 13 years to debate random college kids has now been so important that it gets prominent prime time placement on Comedy Central. I think I think the whole thing is just awesome. Bobby Kennedy, welcome back to the program. Charlie, thanks for having me. They canceled the president of the United States, the most powerful man in the world, what it was my father. If they can do that to him, they can do it to anyone. If they can't do it if we're all banded together and we're fighting one battle, Don Junior, everybody, very special hour episode for you today. My wife joins us, Erica Kirk. The beautiful, legendary Erica. I love you so much. I love you. You're my best friend. Welcome to the Charlie Kirk show. Thanks, babe. was blind but now I see. Thanks so much for listening everybody and God bless. That's great job guys. Really good job. We miss him. That last shot of him walking off stage. I miss my friend. You know, one of the things that Charlie was kind of interesting early in Charlie's career was he wasn't um he's a a prolific speaker, obviously he's a genius on stage, but he wasn't really interested in, you know, spotlight. It's a really interesting piece to him was that he was it was I think that's kind of like almost like we were talking with I was talking with people and the best analogy to Charlie was that he was very much um in the come follow me spirit of of Christ. I think that's what the most Christlike thing about him was was that people wanted to follow him. Sorry I just can't can't get through all this. Um, but he didn't want spotlight and I think that was part of his his and so when I had suggested with our events team that we do bigger things that we do consider because we have more people who want to show up and we have more kids and all that. It wasn't about that for him. It wasn't I People watch these things and they're like we I mean we went rock star. We went full rockstar on Charlie Kirk and a lot of that is thanks to Andrew. I mean, without a doubt, you know, we give we give Erica Erica 100% made him rockstar. Uh, I give you more credit for that because you you forced him to do it and then eventually he embraced it, but but it was he was not the he wasn't interested in that, but he also like wasn't your sort of like central casting character to do it. No. And you made him enter out, you know, embark out on a much bigger vision. But but this is the point with Charlie is that he was a he was a very humble person. And I I don't want that to change with like how people start to take um the memory of of Charlie because he's big. He wasn't interested in what the stage looked like or like who was there, what the spotlight looked like. He just wanted to tell the truth. He just wanted to tell people what was what they needed to hear. And uh and he was really good at that. Um really good at that. but everything else built around him for the right reasons. I'm so sorry, Blake. I'm like spitting like tears everywhere and everything else. It's like splash zone. Um, but he is his his legacy is going to be what you said, Andrew, is that he was a incredibly humble person that was thrust into something that was so much bigger than all of us, so much bigger than him, but he was the perfect person for the perfect time. He um he always told young people be a part of something bigger than yourself and he is the um the most iconic example of that that I think any of us can imagine. And um we're going to take a break from radio. Um we'll be right back on the stream. [Music] All [Music] right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk show. Um, you know, I wasn't going to do this, uh, but, um, I think the team, uh, was absolutely spot on. People want something to remember Charlie by. I have been getting message after message, email, comment, this huge outpouring of people saying and and cuz Charlie, as as we all know, he loved t-shirts, apparel, hats. Like, get me one that says that, get me one that says that. Like, literally, the team would screen press them almost on a two-hour turn. And it's because it's because he understood that that is a a physical real messaging platform that you can wear in the real world in the real space that would be seen that would be seen billions of times in Charlie's instance and and he wanted so whatever the message that he wanted to send or what he was thinking about would usually be what he would wear and there'd be times where he'd have you know a different one on five days a week if you watch the show and that was all very I just didn't mean to say it's very deliberate. It was it was not like some random thing. No, no, no. He he loved his different shirts and so please put them back on screen, guys. So, here here they are and they are available for purchase. Um we're going to as many as everybody wants. We don't have them made yet, so please be gracious with us. We're going to get them out as fast as we can. Um charliekirkstore.com. charliekirkstore.com. And I think the team did an amazing job with them. And um the the middle one is I am Charlie Kirk. I've seen so many people saying that. Yeah. And it's um it's a beautiful testament and I love it and I want one. And the other one is uh I'm just humbled by God's grace. And that of course was from election night November 2024 um when Charlie got news that Pennsylvania had been called by Fox News uh for Donald Trump and that he would be the 47th president of the United States right in this room. that viral video. It happened right here, right in this chair. And Charlie put his hands up to his face and a man who doesn't cry very often got mistied and um and he gave all the glory to God and I love that and I'm so glad that they picked that that that that moment. And then the other one is um the freedom shirt and it has the date that it happened and that's the shirt that he was wearing. Yeah. And uh we put the Turning Point hook on that sleeve as well. And so if you want to honor Charlie and obviously you want to help the show um that that would be amazing. Um can I shout out you guys real quick? I mean we have so many good people who work for for Charlie uh his show his his personal side. Uh people don't talk about this. I I I was careful not to talk about this because Charlie again didn't like the spotlight of it all. Um, but part of the reason why this show exists is because Charlie didn't want to do things that would cost money from Turning Point. Uh, for years and years and years and years, Charlie didn't take a salary from Turning Point. Uh, he paid himself, I know this because I I was the one that had to approve payrolls for at Turning Point for seven years. He paid himself like $30,000 a year. Then a little bit. Yeah. He didn't take a wage for the first 5 years and then his first wage I think was likein it was tiny 15,000 the first year 20 and I know that cuz mine was tiny too when I gave over it was like insane and and then he the part of the show was that he was able to give back so it cost Turning Point nothing for Charlie to run Turning Point. Yeah. People don't know this. Charlie gave there was this stupid AP article I'll never forget where they tried to give I know but they tried to make it sound like Charlie was was somehow taking money from donors or something or fleecing the donors. But here's the truth. Charlie paid back his salary and then some back to Turning Point every year. He donated back all that. Here's one second guys. Uh going to welcome back radio [Music] Go ahead, Tyler. I was just I was just going to say this is that that he he was able to do something beyond anyone else. So there's I mean there's great people that people admire a lot. Rush is one of those people, but Rush didn't build in his spare time a Turning Point USA, a turning point action and all that, right? Like Charlie did all that. Gave it all back essentially for that. And then we have the whole point of why I say this is we have so many good people here at the show that that have that work here that that produce it to get truth out because again what that Charlie was interested in wasn't spotlight. It was getting the truth out. it was doing something bigger than himself. And every single person that's here that that are back behind the glass right now and that are in this building that uh are across campus here at Turning Point headquarters. Um join Charlie on that vision and are part of that. And so uh you with that we talked about the shirts and everything else. please um support, you know, this this mission to continue Charlie's voice with with Charlie's show because there's so many good people here that that have done that. And I know Andrew's Erica looked at me yesterday and she said the show has to keep going and Turning Point has to grow even bigger. And um I hope I'm at liberty to say that. I think she would want me to say that. Yeah. Um and so we don't know what the future holds for everything. uh at least, you know, with fine detail. But we know that that will happen that we will honor that and I know Charlie would want that to happen. That's the only way to honor Charlie is to to for everything to get bigger and to again again that point which is that this is bigger than any singular person. Uh but honoring Charlie's memory permanently. Yeah. With making Turning Point bigger and the mission which is activate as many human beings as possible to do the work to do the Lord's work and to do the work to save the republic. So put those those shirts back. I think that's where that for the radio. Um if you can you can go to charliekirkstore.com charliekirkstore.com. We have three options. um the the election night shirt. There's a drawing of him um putting his hands on his face after he found out that Trump was going to be elected the 47th president. And he said, "I'm just humbled by God's grace." And uh that's a beautiful one is I am Charlie Kirk. And people love that. Um I am Charlie Kirk. I've been seeing that everywhere. And then we have the shirt um the freedom shirt that he was wearing and with the date on it and the the turning point hook also on that on that sleeve. I think that message in the center shirt there, I'm Charlie Kirk, that that speaks to what Tyler's talking about. It's that it's the Charlie Kirk spirit, right? It's I was saying this yesterday on interview, you know, you who's the next Charlie Kirk? like well there isn't an ex Charlie Kirk but Charlie if if you asked him that in public right he would say you you know you go get a megaphone or you know a chair and go to your local park and set up a folding table on camp whatever it is right whatever public place you can be and and go do this too and so it doesn't mean you know it doesn't it's not about him right it's about you take that Charlie Kirk spirit and go and be the next one and go set up your chapter or go set up your thing and go be that person. And that I think is is the message that's now and and you see this it's around the world. It's completely we'll talk about it later, but it's it's totally around the world. I mean, I'm getting messages from like I don't even want to say, but just countries that you wouldn't even believe had heard of Charlie are doing vigils for Charlie. I uh I actually do want to talk about that at length because one of the things that I've realized um and I I tweeted about this or posted about this last night on X um there was a video of a vigil that was sent to me and I just and I said I've constantly had to recalibrate my internal clock because you kind of know I know exactly what you mean how famous Charlie is and then like something else would kind of blow your mind and be like whoa he's actually way bigger And Blake, I'm sure you had a bunch of those even in Soul. You're like, "Whoa, people know I'm here." Um, but yeah, I I am realizing that as much as I tried to recalibrate, I'm I'm probably two years behind like actually how famous he was like in my in my internal clock. And I in his death um and Trump said this beautifully actually this morning on Fox. Um I don't know what clip it is. I'm sure we have it. We'll we'll play that. Yeah. That that he's now he's even bigger. he was huge and now he's a worldwide icon. And um before we before we get away off the topic and I know there's a break um I I want to piggyback on Tyler and just say thank you to the staff for being here today and and yeah, their hearts are broken too. Impossible task. We and all of our Turning Point staff right now at home with family as we as as expected. But again, for here being part of the show and honoring Charlie, I mean, that's just such a hard thing to ask people to do. And I I can't thank you each enough. Everybody behind the glass. Seriously, thank you for being here. Thank you to our amazing team. They really are amazing. And Charlie loved them dearly. Uh radio, we'll uh we'll see you again in a couple minutes. We're going to keep streaming for a few seconds. [Music] [Music] [Music] to a lot of young people on campuses, at our events, on my radio show, podcast, and social media. Said differently, I visit college campuses so you don't have to. [Applause] We're talking to so many voters that know it is time for change. They know that something is wrong. America's future is a series of choices. Our current state of slow motion national decline is a choice. Today is our 2-year-old's birthday. And I look at my daughter and that is my why. For those that are parents, you know exactly what I mean. There is no mountain that stands tall as your faithfulness. There is no river that runs wide as your goodness. Man, Charlie, uh, I I remember when we were starting these out and it was that like that, you know, it was like this. It was like it was like your average three rows. It was like your average political meeting where there was like 12 people in a room and uh, this is this is awesome. This, in my personal opinion, was the most over-the-top Trump event that I've ever covered. This is the number one boots on the ground operation in the country. We're working directly in harmony with the Trump campaign. It's been vetted. It's been cleared. It's been blessed, as you could see there. And we're going to try to win this thing. No guarantees. It's what we do that matters. Mr. President, I can tell you this room is 100% with you, and we have your back. God bless you. We really do. Thank you. [Music] [Applause] [Music] As you know, we are heading on campus here momentarily at the University of South Florida, throwing it down with the students. It's going to be a lot of fun. Uh we are excited to continue this cultural movement that we have started at Turning Point USA. More high school chapters, more college chapters. And disagreement is not just welcome. It is invited. We want to have those tough conversations. That's what it's all about. [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] Because you're not supposed to be involved in this. you're supposed to just kind of be on the vote for me every four years, give me more political power and stay out of my business. And what has happened is we are seeing an explosion in citizen participation. There is nothing else following me. All of my days your mercy follow me. [Applause] Oh, there is nothing else I'll ever need. Knock on that extra door. Go that extra mile. talk to that extra friend because throughout voting month and culminating on the 5th of November, I believe it will go down as a day that people remember as a day that is written about in history books as the final battle from the golden escalator on down from defeating Hillary Clinton from the nonsense of 2020 from Butler, Pennsylvania, November 5th, it all culminates where we restore the promise that the founders gave us and they said, "Hey, If the people want it, the people get it. And we the people take back America. God bless Arizona. And thank you so much. [Music] Every day the American people demand certain accomplishments and victories. Disagreement is what keeps a movement alive, keeps a movement fun. Here in this country, we are a country of flourishing. We're a country of risk-taking. We're a country of building. We will achieve American greatness. And we are just getting started. All of my days your mercy follow me. [Music] Blake, I'm gonna ask you a question. What do you want? All right, welcome back everybody. Um, here we are at the Charlie Kirk Show studio. Um, I remember building this studio and I remember designing it so Charlie would be here and then he decided he liked it here better so we flipped everything. Um, and he had to have his Oregon duck thing over there. It was the the original original was a straight line. Yeah, it was a straight Well, this desk actually is modular and so you can kind of fold it uh so that the two levels fold into one another and it was just a desk and it was supposed to be designed so if you had guest it could fold out and but he just liked it like this all the time. Wasn't it wasn't it we did we did one of the election night streams or or something and we we set up the V and he just liked it. He just like liked it. Left it and he just left it that way. Well, this when we I remember walking into So, the story of this complex is really interesting because we were in Chicago and we came over here and we found this this this space because we wanted to have a building for Turning Point that was by itself. Yeah. And fast forward to we had to go through and talk every single one of the people in this complex to sell the buildings. So, I I had to get on the phone with these guys and luckily we had this incredible kid that was in real estate that helped and we talked him into it. But I remember walking through this building for the first time and this is a garage. This was actually a garage. So this was like a they a shop like they they had like a bunch of machines and stuff in here and they had they used to have all this equipment that was like hanging off and we just started going through just yanking stuff out. We're like this will be the home for Charlie the Charlie Kirk studio. And I I feel bad for the audience because I'm not sitting in Charlie's seat. You're seeing the the profile shot of of Tyler U because he's looking at me when he's talking. So I apologize. That's been everything on the show that I'm always You're always looking cuz that's Tyler's seat. I know. And I kept I kept telling the studio I was like, "Can we like get that camera?" Andrew Andrew is pointing out this is a this is a blocking violation for for film and TV. It's worth it. So, um, but we've kind of always done it. Blake, I you know, and I'm going to ask, let me ask you this when radio gets back on, but I was just talking with the we took a quick uh bio break as they call it in the business. And um I was asking the team, I was like, "What do people want to hear right now?" And the whole team is out there in the bays and they were like, "People want to hear stories about Charlie and they want to see the behind-the-scenes stuff." And so I want us to share that with him and with the audience of our interactions with him. And I don't want to force you to start when we we're going to be welcome back national radio in about a minute. But that's um there there are there's that line in the Bible about Jesus where it says, you know, there there would be the writing of endless books about all the things that Jesus did. And I feel like um not to compare Charlie to Jesus, but his life is like that where if you compiled all the little things that he did for all the tens of thousands of people that he interacted with, there would be no end of the books that we could write about his life. And um that is um that is a tr it's like so true. Like I'm not even that's not even at like 31 years on this planet and that's not even a hyperbolic thing to say. That's not me exaggerating is um a really remarkable feat. And so Blake, I'm going to go like we're just going to go around the table. I I was just going to put you on the hot seat first so it wasn't me. Um but we're going to welcome back uh our national radio audience that Charlie loves so much in about 20 seconds. So hang tight. We'll be right back. [Music] Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. This is uh your host for the day, Andrew Colvette, executive producer of this fine show. Um, to those of you listening around the country, um, we, uh, we're honoring our friend and the host of this show, Charlie Kirk. Um, and it's his friends, the people that work closely with him to make this show, to make so much of the content that are gathered around this table in his studio. His chair is empty because nobody will ever be able to fill it. Um, but we wanted a chance to tell you about the Charlie Kirk that we know and that we got to see up close. And um, we have Jack Pobic, the great Jack Pobic, the great Blake Nef, and the great Tyler Boyer all gathered with myself, Andrew Kovet, executive producer. Um, so our our team is telling us that people want to hear more personal stories that that you wouldn't have seen um, if you didn't know Charlie. Uh, so Blake, the floor is yours. Tell us a story about Charlie that uh you think people would like to hear or that they haven't heard yet. Man, I'm thinking of a few things. Uh, gosh, personal stuff. I think one of the things that always impressed me about Charlie was his immense uh personal discipline about everything he did. He had, you know, his day was very ordered. Everything he did was very ordered. And he didn't deviate from that. And if you, you know, asked him about that, he'd be like, "Well, this is this is the smart thing to do. Why would I do something different?" And the thing I'd always tease him about is the number of foods he ate, which is about four or five. Uh, like I would joke about this, and I I'm not exaggerating. The variation of food Charlie ate was like grilled chicken, avocado, hot sauce, like always like that. Like salmon, I guess. And I think he used to have beef, but I think he later like decided red meat was probably when did he start doing that? He said it was like a couple years ago that he just because he wanted he said he wanted to get back in fighting shape or something. Yeah. Well, Charlie, as long as I've known Charlie has always been very focused on what he puts inside his body from day one. It was I remember cuz I've always when I was when I first met Charlie, I was skinny and then I got, you know, you know, dad fat. You got your road layer. I got dad fat. I put on the pregnancy weight a few times uh throughout that that cycle. Campaign 30. But Charlie was always and he would always kind of yell at me, you know, and Andrew, I'm probably sure you've had some of these situations. Blake probably hasn't, but you know, never got yelled at for what he eats, but I he would be like cuz I would like pound sodas and like I was like, "Oh yeah." And then it caught up with me. I was like Charlie's like sin eater cuz I like I eat everything. But he would eat like piles of singular foods. So it would be like stacks of like stacks of broccoli. Um he would order that like steamed broccoli or he would order just just meat, right? It would just be like meat and then and he would just he would pound through it. He would eat like as we're talking like like we didn't have time to waste as we were going. It would just eat later in life. He enjoy I think he enjoyed meals a little bit more, but the early was like we were going going going. was always in the travel ready to go and he would just eat and I would just sit there and be like h cuz I would order like a normal sandwich and like drink a drink but he would just eat to eat but it was always healthy and uh he would always be like you're going to eat that like he would look at me like you're going to eat that you're going to put that I actually remember I think the night I think I'm pretty sure we were all there too. It was the night of the RNC when he gave his speech there, not the uh 16 or 20, but the 24 and I think I want to correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't he have like a couple of chicken wings and he he like made a huge deal about it? He had a couple and we had like a huge pile of huge pileishly vast pile of chicken but it was like each as Tyler was saying like each box was a separate food and then we had a whole bunch of chicken wings that we were all just chowing down on and he goes I will allow myself to have a few and that was like a huge he would find something he liked and early on he used to say this all all the time he'd be like you could build a religion around those things have you ever heard that said that so you ever heard him say that we could build a religion around this religion around this thing when he kind of food he likes. He'd be like, "You could build a religion around those things or that thing or whatever." But it's like the first time he's eating it. But no, he would be like it' be like I'd be like I mean I think these are great. These chicken wings you can build. We know. I think I heard Charlie say that no short of like 500 times. I yeah it that when you there's certain set phrases that were just like the Charlie phrases and you know when you say him you could just hear it in his voice because that's that's the only guy who talks that way. Uh what about uh what about uh you Jack? Do you have a do you have a fun Charlie story that you think the audience hasn't heard or would like to hear? Oh man. Uh, you know, look, I mean, there's a lot of stuff that's just private. So, that's like, how do you how do you steep through that? Um, you know, I I'll tell the story that in uh, you know, from last year, though, that I think is just just kind of a funny thing. So Charlie worked so hard on these campus tours that um people don't realize that he worked himself sick last year and there were I don't know two three weeks where he just he had no voice. Uh he completely lost his voice out there on the campus tours, the campaigns between everything. and he was traveling so much and just picking up whatever germs and bugs and all the rest. And obviously with his health regimen and that he, you know, he did what he could, but you know, sometimes it just kind of doesn't work that way. And I remember we had we had talked about he was like, "Hey, Jack, you know, you're Pennsylvania guy. We're doing this Penn State. I think it's going to be big. Do you want to come?" And I was like, "Yeah, you know, we'll we'll see if it works out with the schedule, etc." And and then a couple days before the event, he send or no, the day before the event, he sends me this text and and says, "Jack, we need to talk." So I we need to talk. I lost my voice. So then I call him and he immediately hangs up and he texts me back and I said he said, "Jack, I can't talk. I lost my voice. I can only text." And so he he's like, "I I need you up here." Um and and and so we we I get up to Penn State and the entire time we're there and I'm I'm with him, we're spending time and he's like sending me text messages or just writing stuff on his right next to him. Yeah. And he's like showing it and I'm like saying it or tweeting it or whatever it is. And then as we're about to go, you know, we have this whole thing set up and there's thousands of kids. I mean 5,000 maybe cuz I know we brought like it was insane. I know we brought sea of red hats. We brought well we brought 30,000 hats but then we ran out and like only about half of the kids had hats. So that's why I know it was you would not believe the number of hats that Turning Point bought and still managed to run out and it was insane. And then and then and then the campus end up ended up shutting down the the speakers. Anyway, that many boxes I want to just throw out hats. It was so many B like the logistics of getting that many hats is actually to each campus was actually a marvel in and of itself. And you're you're reminding me of uh Go ahead. I don't know if you had something you wanted to add, Tyler. No, I was just going to say that the the miracle of the organization of Turning Point uh being able to do all those things is what enabled so much of Charlie Kirk, right? Charlie was wanted to be enabled all the time with every little crazy idea that he had. I would call him Charlie Kirk wild goose chases like with with stuff. It would just be like constant stuff, right? It was just like trying to channel where those things would go, but the enabling of the of the staff to do the things that needed to be done because Charlie was almost always right on these things was he was he was always right on. He was annoyingly almost always right. Almost always right. And when you when you got one that was right, you were like you would make a mental note like cuz it was it was 99 to1. But the but where he wanted to go with everything was always right. And he he and and he knew he had the vision and the people who helped execute that u deserve a ton of credit. Every every person every can I I look at the the videos from the campus tours. every one of our activists that is there that's volunteering to help hold microphones to, you know, standing in the in the gap there, especially in such scary times as where we're at today. They have been such incredible warriors and uh and that honors Charlie so much. Um yeah, we we have this Let's go ahead and play it. We have just enough time. This is Charlie eating with Chopsticks in Japan with Blake. 479. Oh gosh. Is Is it like a big thing? Yeah, of course. Am I doing it? Okay. Yeah, perfect. This is noto. What is Why is it so gooey? Soy bean. It's very good. It's so gooey. It's very gooey. Why is it so gooey? Uh cuz it's fermented, I think. Mhm. It's great. It's very good for you. [Music] [Music] Blake. Uh I remember you he was you and I were on a chat when this was happening or moments after it happened and he was like there was literally 11 dishes in this thing. It was amazing. Oh the Japanese food. I mean you can build a religion around this. Religion. People don't realize like how he would just get fixated on how he would, you know, he would like interrogate me about things cuz Charlie Charlie loved to learn things, loved to pick new things up and yet he was also so busy all of the time. So he would even just he would send me on he's like, "Uh, Blake, you have to learn all about this thing so that you can just tell me about it when I need to learn about it later. So I'll I'll go read, you know, a 300page book about this so that I can just be ready." Yeah. When Charlie interrogates me. I remember once on a flight, it was like an hour a