Pastor Mark Driscoll attacking Candace Owens!!

[00:01] Hello and welcome back for another

[00:03] episode of Patriotic Housewife. We are

[00:06] going to be jumping into some juicy

[00:09] slashcrazy

[00:11] stuff. Right now, I don't know how many

[00:13] of you guys follow or have heard of

[00:15] Pastor Mark Driscoll. He's uh pretty

[00:19] well known. He's from Arizona.

[00:22] Actually, Charlie Kirk uh I guess he was

[00:25] like a mentor to Charlie Kirk in a way.

[00:27] Um, I know that Charlie like attended I

[00:30] think his church sometimes.

[00:32] Long story short, he has come out

[00:36] yesterday and cuz he started a podcast

[00:39] and he is attacking Candace Owens. We're

[00:43] just going to play some of the clip, let

[00:45] you guys see it, and then we're going to

[00:46] talk about it. But this is pretty

[00:49] disturbing. Um, I'm really disappointed.

[00:52] I actually really liked him and I'm

[00:54] shocked that he's uh coming out and and

[00:56] and this is what they're talking on

[00:58] their uh Christian podcast. This is

[01:01] pretty interesting.

[01:03] >> And then another great saint. We would

[01:04] love to uh roll her clip. Uh oh, Candace

[01:08] Owens uh most recent uh really fun

[01:11] debacle with uh an interview she

[01:13] >> I just keep hearing Aussie Osborne's

[01:15] crazy train in my mind. I feel like

[01:18] everybody's riding that train today. Oh,

[01:21] for sure. Okay.

[01:23] >> When you say you believe that Charlie

[01:26] Kirk was betrayed by someone close to

[01:28] him, what do you mean?

[01:30] >> I think that in the coming weeks there's

[01:33] going to be a lot of financial reports

[01:35] that are coming out. And I first and

[01:37] foremost do not believe that Tyler

[01:39] Robinson killed Charlie Kirk. I want to

[01:40] be very clear on that. Uh whether he was

[01:43] involved, I think the answer is yes. I

[01:47] think

[01:48] that's obvious. Um, it's

[01:50] >> and your basis for saying he didn't act

[01:52] alone is what?

[01:54] >> I don't know, maybe the weird Fed

[01:56] messages that were concocted out of thin

[01:58] air that had no time stamp and were

[01:59] written like they were were speaking in

[02:02] 1822 among other things. Um, their lack

[02:05] of an ability to answer any basic

[02:07] questions about what took place.

[02:08] >> Do you have any proof that the messages

[02:10] were made up? Because that would be

[02:11] easily Yeah. proven.

[02:13] >> Yeah, but they didn't put timestamps on

[02:14] them and Discord came out and said they

[02:16] didn't exist. This was supposedly text

[02:17] messages, not Discord messages. It's my

[02:20] understanding from the indictment.

[02:22] >> I I actually did not read that they were

[02:24] text messages.

[02:24] >> The indictment calls them text messages.

[02:27] >> What would it be like? Like like the

[02:29] feds are like on a computer like, "Yeah,

[02:30] I bring it out back in exactly what it

[02:33] is. The feds made up the text messages,

[02:35] but you don't have anyone from like the

[02:36] FBI telling you that or

[02:39] >> Okay. No. Has anyone leaked to you?

[02:41] >> And Tyler Robinson. What has anyone said

[02:44] to you even off the record like, "Yeah,

[02:46] we faked these."

[02:48] >> I have very strong sources everywhere on

[02:51] both sides.

[02:52] >> Do you know somebody that no matter what

[02:54] they do, it always turns out to be a

[02:56] success and they [music] live a perfect

[02:58] life while you're

[02:59] >> Well, I look forward to seeing evidence.

[03:01] >> Yeah, sure.

[03:02] >> Because when we see talking about

[03:03] evidence, it's like who's gonna

[03:05] >> So, what's the point? Why why is why why

[03:08] does she just keep going with if what

[03:10] feels like no evidence?

[03:12] >> So,

[03:14] She's lost touch with reality.

[03:18] And you know, honestly, from a pastoral

[03:20] perspective, I feel sorry for her. I

[03:24] pray for her. If she has a husband who

[03:27] is present or she's got a pastor who

[03:29] cares, she needs to get an evaluation.

[03:32] And honestly, she needs to take a break

[03:35] because she's become obsessed with

[03:36] Charlie Kirk in a way that is really

[03:38] unhealthy for a married woman. Um, and

[03:42] also she's tried to make herself the de

[03:45] facto defender and spokesperson for the

[03:47] legacy of Charlie Kirk. And that is the

[03:50] sole discretion of his wife Erica, who

[03:53] did an incredible job on her interview

[03:55] this week. And she's a a really

[03:57] remarkable, incredible grieving widow.

[04:01] But this is the problem with the

[04:03] internet is the crazier you are, the

[04:06] more attention you get, but the less

[04:08] helpful you are. And

[04:10] >> we're just going to pause that right

[04:11] there for a second. So this is

[04:14] absolutely disturbing that like I said

[04:17] he is coming out and talking like this.

[04:21] So the first thing is the crazier you

[04:23] are the more attention you get.

[04:26] Uh not true. She is somebody who cared

[04:29] dearly about her friend. And she has

[04:31] also said and this this is how you know

[04:33] that he is not watching any of the

[04:34] content. his little sidekick, whoever is

[04:37] like asking him these questions, clearly

[04:40] isn't either. [snorts]

[04:42] She has said if Erica Kirk asked her,

[04:44] she would stop. None of that has

[04:46] happened. Therefore, she keeps going.

[04:48] And here we go again with why do they

[04:51] have to diagnose you? Why does it have

[04:52] to be that you're clinically going

[04:54] insane or you're you're mentally ill or

[04:57] you really need to see somebody or

[04:58] having a psychosis problem? Why? Just

[05:00] for asking questions. And [snorts] I,

[05:02] like I said, I used to really like him.

[05:04] I used to listen to some of his stuff on

[05:05] on Facebook and YouTube. And now I'm

[05:08] starting to wonder what is going on

[05:10] here?

[05:12] What is going on here? Like is he

[05:13] friends with like, you know, possibly

[05:16] Rob McCoy? Like what is going on here?

[05:18] Because why are we talking about this?

[05:21] Once again, this is that was a Christian

[05:22] podcast. Like why are we talking about

[05:24] Candace Owens?

[05:26] I mean, come on. So, that right there

[05:29] was super just strange and I'm just not

[05:32] understanding why that's even a topic.

[05:35] But let's continue to listen to their uh

[05:38] little diagnosis.

[05:39] >> So, in ministry as a pastor, our goal is

[05:41] always, you know, oral pastors like, how

[05:43] do we be the most helpful? And on the

[05:46] >> by the way, they also don't know what

[05:47] they're talking about because she's

[05:49] Catholic, she's a priest.

[05:52] >> Is how do I get the most attention?

[05:54] Well, those are two wildly different

[05:56] things. and things like this. They get a

[05:58] lot of attention, but they don't provide

[05:59] any help whatsoever.

[06:01] >> Does it

[06:02] >> How do they figure that her podcast is

[06:05] not providing any help?

[06:07] I mean, she's gotten further than the

[06:09] feds have. And I think that the

[06:11] questions that she's asking are very

[06:13] valid, and she isn't the only one asking

[06:15] questions. So, once again, why don't you

[06:18] guys make yourself well informed before

[06:20] you get on a podcast and embarrass

[06:21] yourself on the internet?

[06:24] Get your facts straight. push you to an

[06:26] extreme that carrot of attention that

[06:29] always does that because

[06:30] >> who's this other unhelpful idiot?

[06:33] >> I mean for years Candace has put out in

[06:36] content. I haven't ever watched tons of

[06:38] her content but just the drip

[06:40] >> exactly the problem you are talking

[06:43] about someone when you have not watched

[06:44] their content. Thank you for saying that

[06:46] out loud

[06:47] >> over the years. It's been good stuff

[06:50] overall of

[06:51] >> Okay. So, it this is a a newer Candace

[06:54] that's just wild conspiratorial

[06:56] conjecture without any hard evidence.

[06:59] Correct. Is this is

[07:01] >> So, of course, they don't know about

[07:03] text messages, emails.

[07:06] They don't understand that TPUSA

[07:08] employees are leaking information to

[07:10] her. Hello.

[07:12] >> Something's happened recently, right?

[07:15] >> Yeah. I mean, as a pastor, if this was

[07:16] somebody Let me just ask you this. If

[07:19] this person was attending your church as

[07:22] a pastor, what would your what would

[07:24] your encouragement be to this married

[07:26] couple?

[07:26] >> Yeah. Immediately unplug from all this

[07:28] stuff. Let's take a retreat. Let's

[07:30] unplug. Yeah.

[07:31] >> Also, guys, how funny is it that he's

[07:32] like, "Oh, if she has a spouse, if she

[07:35] has a husband, you know, she has a

[07:38] husband. Everyone knows her husband.

[07:40] Like, come on. She has a husband." And

[07:42] once again, she said if her husband

[07:44] asked her, she would stop. No one has

[07:47] asked her.

[07:48] >> It it'd be that. It'd be that. This is

[07:50] overtaken. Yeah.

[07:52] >> Yeah. And it's and it becomes um it

[07:55] becomes conspiratorial in a way that

[07:59] really you're living a fear-based

[08:01] paranoid life.

[08:02] >> Yeah.

[08:02] >> I mean, when you reach the point where

[08:03] you're like, "The guy who killed Charlie

[08:05] didn't kill Charlie." And you know, I

[08:07] have sources from the feds. I mean, and

[08:10] I think she says, you know, I counted

[08:12] three times in that short clip. You're

[08:14] at a point where you've sort of lost

[08:16] touch with reality,

[08:18] >> right?

[08:18] >> And when people live online and they

[08:21] live in conspiracy theories and they

[08:23] live in chats and comments, eventually

[08:26] those people start to develop mental

[08:28] health problems and there's a break from

[08:30] reality. And and what we're seeing here,

[08:33] I mean, I I hope we're not seeing this,

[08:35] but I think what we're seeing is

[08:36] literally the implosion of a human being

[08:39] online.

[08:40] >> Yeah.

[08:40] >> This is like watching a car wreck in

[08:42] slow motion.

[08:43] >> Well, I don't like this. I do sympathize

[08:45] with I don't have trust for a lot of our

[08:48] institutions of power and and

[08:49] >> media. Yeah. So, she's scratching an

[08:53] itch that I share as well, but this

[08:56] looks crazy. But when Erica Kirk says,

[08:58] you know, she said in the interview that

[09:00] she did with Jesse Waters that she's

[09:02] confident that Tyler Robinson was the

[09:04] killer of her husband.

[09:05] >> Yeah.

[09:06] >> Well, let's let her be the authority on

[09:09] that. She said, "I've seen all the

[09:10] evidence." And you know, one minute a

[09:12] misquer, but like if someone is killed,

[09:15] the person who has the authority on that

[09:18] assassination is the wife. And and

[09:23] how confident would you have to be to

[09:25] turn your son in that he was the

[09:28] assassin? Tyler Robinson's dad turned

[09:30] him in probably for a death penalty.

[09:32] >> Well, and is more

[09:34] >> uh we don't know who turned him in and

[09:36] that's been talked about like a

[09:37] bazillion times that we have no idea who

[09:39] turned him in. So them uh saying that

[09:42] we've had conflicting stories a

[09:44] thousand1 times about who turned him in.

[09:47] So no um that's not true.

[09:50] And

[09:52] what was the other thing that they said?

[09:53] Hold on, let's keep playing.

[09:54] >> From a youth pastor who I think also is

[09:57] literally the implosion of a human being

[10:00] online.

[10:01] >> Yeah,

[10:01] >> this is like watching a car wreck in

[10:03] slow motion.

[10:04] >> Well, I don't like this. I do sympathize

[10:06] with I don't have trust for a lot of our

[10:09] institutions of power and

[10:10] >> and media are.

[10:12] >> You don't? But yet you're not even

[10:14] saying that she has valid reasons to ask

[10:16] questions.

[10:18] >> Yeah. So, she's scratching an itch that

[10:21] I share as well, but this looks crazy.

[10:24] >> But when Erica Kirk says, you know, she

[10:26] said in the interview that

[10:27] >> Here we go again, calling someone crazy.

[10:29] >> She did with Jesse Waters that she's

[10:32] confident that Tyler Robinson was the

[10:34] killer of her husband.

[10:35] >> Yeah.

[10:36] >> Well, let's let her be the authority on

[10:38] that. She said, "I've seen all the

[10:40] evidence and you know, one minute

[10:42] misquer, but like if someone is killed,

[10:45] the person who has the authority on that

[10:48] assassination is the wife."

[10:50] >> And and

[10:53] how confident would you have to be to

[10:55] turn your son in that he was the

[10:57] assassin. Tyler Robinson's dad turned

[11:00] him in probably for a death penalty.

[11:02] >> Well, and is a Mormon youth pastor who I

[11:05] think also was somehow connected to law

[11:07] enforcement. And so

[11:09] >> a dad's not going to live into a

[11:10] government conspiracy and turn us on it.

[11:11] >> And his dad's a cop, right?

[11:13] >> He was. Yeah.

[11:14] >> Was okay.

[11:14] >> And this is it too, like let it play out

[11:16] in the courts. Let the evidence be

[11:18] presented. Let things run their course.

[11:20] But this is the doubling down. And and

[11:23] this is where at the end of the

[11:24] >> My question is why do so many people

[11:27] give a what she's questioning and

[11:30] not questioning? Why do you give a

[11:32] It's not hurting you. Erica Kirk hasn't

[11:34] come out to stop it. She's not offended.

[11:37] Why do you give a

[11:40] Talk about Christian

[11:42] stuff on your Christian podcast and

[11:45] leave the rest to everyone else.

[11:48] >> Day, um, let me ask you this, Pastor

[11:50] John. What would be better use of your

[11:53] time as a human being than following

[11:55] this great

[11:56] >> What would be better use of your time,

[11:58] Pastor Mark Drisco Driscoll, than you

[12:01] sitting here talking about this

[12:02] when nobody asked for your opinion or

[12:04] clinical diagnosis?

[12:06] Wouldn't there be better use of your

[12:07] time?

[12:09] Shouldn't you be caring for people who

[12:11] are actually coming to you for advice

[12:14] or looking to you for uh spiritual

[12:17] guidance

[12:21] >> to tell

[12:21] >> take your own advice.

[12:22] >> Oh man, insert almost anything. I mean,

[12:25] we embroiled in a terrible culture war

[12:29] uh of we're losing trust in all of our

[12:31] institutions of power. families are

[12:34] being utterly destroyed of like you you

[12:36] could you could throw a dart blindfolded

[12:39] and hit something that would be more

[12:40] edifying uh than this. I don't see any

[12:43] benefit to this. And now if there was

[12:45] truth to it, present your hard evidence

[12:47] in total. Present it. Not I have my

[12:49] leaks. I have my sources. Trust me. And

[12:51] here's my like I think I think give us

[12:54] hard evidence right here. Back back it

[12:56] up. If you have it, deliver it. And if

[12:57] you don't, shut up. Mhm.

[12:59] >> Uh, so

[13:00] >> you alluded to a minute ago, you live

[13:02] you live in

[13:03] >> Who is asking who cares about his

[13:06] opinion? Who cares about his opinion

[13:09] >> in a world? I mean, you're in the gun

[13:11] world. Um, and you are far-right

[13:14] conservative. You're not crazy faright,

[13:16] but I'm sure you have a lot of dealings

[13:18] with a lot of very far-right people that

[13:21] are looking looking for the

[13:23] conspiracies. How does a Christian

[13:24] father, you discern that for their

[13:26] family in this time? what to believe,

[13:28] what not to believe, where do you get

[13:30] your source of truth? Um, how are you

[13:32] leading through that?

[13:33] >> It's good. You know, in terms of where I

[13:35] am on spectrum of left, right, or far, I

[13:38] I really like I really love America. I'm

[13:42] a constitutionalist. I'm a patriot. I

[13:45] love Bible. I love family. And a lot of

[13:47] people, they want to label you by saying

[13:50] you're far right. You're you're a crazy.

[13:53] Over here, I'm like, I love family. I

[13:56] believe in our Constitution, Declaration

[13:59] of Independence, that's it. Nothing

[14:01] nothing insane. Nothing that's going to

[14:03] get huge clicks on Instagram. I love

[14:06] Bible. And that's my standard of truth

[14:08] right there. And and so I would like

[14:10] people to stop being crazy all the time.

[14:13] Uh practice a little bit of discernment.

[14:16] Let's suspend judgment before we

[14:17] tribalistically all jump on bandwagons,

[14:20] which is what's happening. It's a thing

[14:22] happens immediately. Choose your side.

[14:24] Whose side are you on? Go all in. We And

[14:27] now

[14:27] >> double down in spite of the evidence.

[14:29] >> That's right. And now it's confirmation

[14:30] bias. No matter what you see, you're

[14:32] going to see it through the lens of what

[14:34] you've already predestablished in your

[14:35] snap judgment that happened the moment

[14:37] the headline broke. Nobody's reading

[14:39] deeply. No one's saying, "Well, let's

[14:41] see where the investigation goes." And

[14:43] so that is a real big problem because

[14:45] that means we're tribballistically ready

[14:47] to grab pitchforks and torches, pick at

[14:51] anybody that happens to land a little

[14:53] bit outside of our tribe and it just

[14:56] continues to snowball until it breaks

[14:58] all alliance, all trust, all fellowship,

[15:00] and it it's it's a race to the bottom.

[15:02] It's just going to be the utter

[15:04] destruction of everything while you get

[15:07] huge views.

[15:08] >> Yeah. Well, and in that too, if you if

[15:11] you are a Christian or

[15:12] >> but yet you guys are here talking about

[15:14] this again for views, right? Pretty sure

[15:20] >> claim to be a Christian. You've got to

[15:22] think about things like Jesus says that

[15:23] Satan is the father of lies.

[15:25] >> And they always bring it back to this

[15:29] kind of stuff. if you're asking

[15:31] questions that they don't want you to

[15:33] answer

[15:35] or ask rather,

[15:38] you know, I'd be really curious to see

[15:40] Baron Coleman is doing a lot of research

[15:44] um Google trend searches rather and uh I

[15:48] know Ian Carol has looked into um the

[15:52] geo fencing of churches in certain

[15:56] states where they're actually going to

[15:57] be pushing uh the small state of uh this

[16:02] the country that's the size of New

[16:03] Jersey um pushing that kind of

[16:06] propaganda through geo fencing. I wonder

[16:08] if this is one of the churches

[16:11] where that's going to be happening

[16:13] allegedly maybe. I don't know. Just

[16:16] asking.

[16:17] >> It's like am I am I

[16:18] >> probably would be good to look into

[16:20] >> I am I intentionally frequently lying

[16:23] then that would be bad. Jesus says that

[16:25] we'll be judged for every word we speak.

[16:28] If you claim Christ, you've at least got

[16:31] to begin. We talked about this a little

[16:32] bit yesterday with, you know, some fear

[16:34] of the Lord that it doesn't matter what

[16:37] the clicks are and it doesn't matter

[16:39] what the platform, you know, rewards it.

[16:42] >> Is he insinuating that because she's

[16:44] asking questions, she's not a

[16:46] God-fearing woman.

[16:48] matters if I'm claiming Christ that I'm

[16:51] trying to conduct myself in a way that

[16:53] is truthful knowing that I'm going to

[16:55] stand before him and give an account for

[16:57] all of the content that I'm

[16:58] disseminating.

[16:59] >> Right?

[17:00] >> And so to me, this is there's just a

[17:02] practical point where yeah, we don't

[17:04] trust those who are traditional legacy

[17:06] media, rightly understandably so. But if

[17:10] someone claims to be a Christian, they

[17:12] should at least be making an attempt to

[17:14] act or live functionally as a Christian.

[17:18] >> No, that's good.

[17:19] >> And and just wild speculation and

[17:21] untruths and lies. There's nothing in

[17:24] the Bible that supports that. There's

[17:26] nothing in the Christian life that would

[17:27] promote that.

[17:28] >> We don't know if she's lying. She's not

[17:31] lying. She's proven that she hasn't been

[17:34] lying. She's actually proven that TPU

[17:35] TPUSA has been lying. Um, so what what

[17:39] again? Why are we here?

[17:40] >> She's got hard evidence. I'd like to see

[17:41] it and I'm open to reason. Show it to

[17:43] me.

[17:44] >> How about start watching her podcast?

[17:46] >> And and then we'll we'll go from there.

[17:48] Yeah.

[17:48] >> And if not, this is not helpful. This is

[17:51] destroying and this is Yeah. This is

[17:53] harmful.

[17:54] >> It feels like an attack really on the

[17:55] right because there's becoming so many

[17:57] divisions in the

[17:58] >> Oh god, we got idiot number one. Here we

[18:00] go again.

[18:01] >> Right. And uh you you said that when

[18:03] you're when you're losing, everyone's

[18:04] unified, but when you're winning, all of

[18:05] a sudden it's like, oh, there's factions

[18:07] of the right. And

[18:09] >> it's it's tribalism. It's tribal chiefs

[18:11] and tribes. And it's like there's Tucker

[18:13] Carlson. There's Candace Owens.

[18:16] >> You know,

[18:17] >> Steve Dace is a a friend of mine and I

[18:20] appreciate him.

[18:21] >> We're just going to stop watching this.

[18:22] We already know where this is going. I

[18:24] don't know if I could watch any more of

[18:25] it. I'm getting a migraine. I'm just

[18:27] listening to them talk. But you want to

[18:29] know what you guys I brought up a great

[18:31] point in the fact that I am going to

[18:33] look up this geo fencing

[18:36] and I'm curious to see because it does

[18:39] say churches in certain states and I

[18:41] wonder if I have to look back at Ian

[18:43] Carol's um podcast that he did but I

[18:46] need to look back and see if we can

[18:50] figure out if this church that Mark

[18:53] Driscoll is a pastor at if this is one

[18:56] of the ones where they will be

[18:59] circulating this kind of propaganda that

[19:01] would be super interesting and would

[19:02] explain why we're taking our time out on

[19:05] our Christian podcast to,

[19:09] you know, sit here and um

[19:13] what what would you call it? Diagnose,

[19:15] insult, make fun of, mock,

[19:19] so on and so on. Very uncchristian-like,

[19:22] right? So, I would be so curious. We

[19:25] need to do some digging. I'm going to do

[19:27] some digging and see what I can find and

[19:30] we will definitely be doing a follow-up

[19:32] podcast on that. So guys, really quick,

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[19:47] these clips. I don't think that there's

[19:50] been a lot of people who have uh caught

[19:51] on to Mark Driscoll. This isn't the

[19:53] first time he's talked about her, but

[19:54] this is the first time where they've

[19:55] really elaborated on how they feel about

[19:58] uh her questioning things and they've

[20:00] taken it to to the point of uh you know

[20:03] calling her crazy, she's going through

[20:04] psychosis, like where where if she has a

[20:07] spouse is if they don't know who Candace

[20:08] Owens is, is if they don't know all

[20:10] these things about Candace Owens is if

[20:12] they don't know that her and Charlie

[20:15] were as close as they were. And this is

[20:18] just giving me like Rob McCoy vibes and

[20:22] I don't like it. It's giving me the ick

[20:25] and I'm really honestly disappointed.

[20:28] But like I said, let me know in the

[20:29] comments what you guys think. There will

[20:31] be a part two to this. Let me look into

[20:33] this a little bit and we will go from

[20:35] there.

[20:36] I will see you all in the