Hello and welcome back for another episode of Patriotic Housewife. Yesterday, Mitch Snow did an interview with Stu Peters on X. And so I wanted to just go through some clips from that because I figured, like I said, majority of us don't have X. And it was actually a really good interview that Stu Peters did with him. I really enjoyed listening to it. I think it gave us some good insight into Mitch Snow's past. He, you know, the first, I would say, 15 minutes he kind of went into explaining the rumors and the different things of, you know, him having issues with his ex-wife, a fight that was videotaped um in the garage, you know, that whole um story. He kind of talks a little bit about that. And then at about probably like the 16 minute mark, they get into TPUSA and some interesting things that are going on there along with Alex Jones. and I kind of want to go into that. And then he goes into the um Gary and Valhalla stuff. What else was in the interview? And then gets into his memory of the day at Fort Wuka and the hotel. So, let's just kind of jump in. We're going to just watch some of the interview. I just thought there was some interesting points that were made and it's worth a good it's worth a watch. So, let's just jump into that together. And um [snorts] it's a bit ironic that uh the way that they wish to prove that my claim that yeah I have been uh what would you call handled scops uh trying to keep me shut where my family members you know just like they said my own flesh and blood have been coerced against me. Um, the way that they're going to prove that that's not true is by literally going on a a week-l long broadcast, doing it all over again, and basically bragging about how they've done it in the past. Um, that that's a bit ironic. Uh, it it's me and Amy have been sitting back watching this whole internet show and and I don't know, it shouldn't be that big a deal. Uh, I shouldn't be made that big a deal. Uh it's quite um it's surreal. Uh but this is what passes my >> certainly you understand why it's been turned into a big deal though. I mean you understand the implications >> that may come as a result of the testimony that you gave about what you saw on September 8th and 9th. I realized that uh Miss Owens was heading down a a path and as well as others uh Valhalla and others actually I learned it through Valhalla that they were heading down this path of investigation and that's why I wanted to put up this tip. up until then. Uh, as far as the implications go, um, I didn't know. I mean, there could have been a TPUSA lookalike contest or function going on at at Fort Wuka the the two days before. I don't know. Uh, what I do know is I was there. I took videos, uh, extensive amount of videos, lobbies, places that I was there before reminiscing. Um, and I've handed all that over. I'm going to let Miss Owens um and let let her do what she does. Um, I've talked with Baron Coleman lately. He's um he's tried to pry as to what I could see in those pictures. um and trying to pretend like he he has access to them through Candace or something like that. And it's interesting how people play these things. Um he's a good guy though. He's he's trying to investigate the truth. is interesting how people play these things. Which brings me to this Valhalla and Gary Melton and these two guys kind of pretending to be independent of one another but very much on the same team before ever getting any of the documentation that you offered. You offered to give these guys your DD214. I listened to the recorded phone calls that you provided to this network that we subsequently released on X. And during that conversation, >> so if you guys just heard Stu Peters says that Mitch gave him the conversation for him to leak on X. So I know we were talking about this yesterday in my live. People were saying and also on post that Mitch did not give anyone the conversation. The conversation was given to Stu Peters to leak. And you also were so forthcoming that you offered to give him your social security number. And >> so he's talking about Gary. He was willing to give Gary uh not only he gave you know the DD14 but also the social security his own social security number >> before you could even provide this documentation. These guys took to air and said we have a stolen Valor case here that you >> So did you hear that part? before they even got the do or yeah got the documents that he said he would provide them. They went on air and immediately started bashing his character knowing that he was going to sending over this information. >> You weren't in the military, that you weren't special forces, that you weren't military intelligence, that you weren't a Green Beret, that you weren't on Fort Wuka. And it turns out they were wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, and wrong. And the receipts now are publicly available for everyone. Well, I mean, I guess I will ask you to speculate here. Why did they do that? >> Well, where I turned down the offer to to work for nefarious people, um it seems that they're working with those nefarious people. Uh they're willing to get paid to do this stuff. And uh congrats to them. Uh I know what they're doing. They're uh they're trying to make a paycheck. He said bad optics multiple times when he was on the phone with you, the Scary Melton from the Paramount podcast, Paramount Tactical. He he kept stressing bad optics. Why do you think he was saying that? What does that mean to you? >> Uh to remain a contractor for the federal government, you have to sort of protect the the image of the federal government. Um, the issues that I've brought up are considered what he called bad optics. If people were to learn that special forces are recruited by cartels or nefarious groups to go teach people how to commit crimes or get past uh security on our southern border. He considered that bad optics. He also admitted that he and others get contracted to go down there. If someone like me were to bring up that uh that problem or turn them down, then that threatens their contract ability and that's I think they're given a pass on these things that they do as sort of a um a bonus for the profession. I'm just one of those that chose not to do it. It seems like these people actually get inserted into the podcast world because they see that alternative media, digital broadcast, online discourse is headed in one direction and they see the corporate media losing its grip on the American people and they're starting to see right through that and the lies of the administrations that have been I mean since JFK was shot, they're seeing through the empire of lies and so now they have to kind of >> jockey for position inside of this alternative media powerhouse, I guess, is what it's become. Do you agree with that? >> Uh, I I think we're witnessing it reveal itself. This has been spectacular. These guys have uh have chosen to take this tact. Um, they've literally revealed themselves as playing good cop, bad cop, uh, trying to get into Candace Owens's camp, tried to take over her, uh, her audience. Um, and nobody forced them to do this that, but they've definitely been trying to use me to do it. They've tried to claim that u you know because I am uh I am a veteran I am military I'm military intelligence I have been in special forces uh that somehow I had to go through them and you know I I told Miss Owens I you know let's let's face the criticism first. Let's go through the hard things because they're going to bring up a lot of dirt on me. Let's just go do it. Um, she had someone of higher class vet me and that that's that's wisdom there. That that showed that she had diligence and wisdom. Uh, these guys, you know, they're uh they're rucks sacks in the hall, I think, with all of this stuff. And they're not going to, if anybody's still listening to them after all of this. Oh, God bless you. God bless you. That's it's um it's been quite a spectacle. I mean, >> so that is an interesting take on it. You know, like I know we've heard DD got a podcast say be careful of who you're listening to. Be careful of, you know, who you see that comes up and and their demeanor is a certain way and and question those things. And I think a lot of us were originally watching, you know, certain creators for ballistic expert reasons. And they were good for that reason. And I just think a lot of things [clears throat] continue to get out of hand. My personal opinion of this is it's really sad to know that he provided his DD-14. He was willing to have something so personal, your social, to prove to them that he was who he was. He was a Green Beret. and they turned around and they still literally trashed him and then said that uh you know talked about the stolen valor and and carried on and totally tried to ruin this man's reputation worse than what the government has already done to him. It's just really sad to watch somebody completely beat down and then to get beat down again. It was it's just really really sad to watch. >> And I've never seen a fall like this. It's It's really something to watch. And while Alex Jones was posting deceptive, manipulative, edited videos and calling you a hammer attacker, which I mean, if you were a latigious person, I mean, I think that you definitely have a lawsuit there. I mean, this guy has been using a massive platform to just drag your name through the mud and slander you and lie about you and defame you from the very beginning of all of this. But at the same time, then you have this other group, Valhalla and Gary Meltton. These guys went so far as to drag your aranged son onto the platform. Why do they do that? They bring a son on because when they say, "Well, we have a very special guest here today. We have Mitch Snow's son." That immediately forces an audience to perk their ears up and lend some sort of credibility to this person because, well, of course, they would know you. They would have intimate knowledge of your emotions and your habits and your feelings, your military. This is a really sad story and a lot of people I don't think realized about the son of Mitch Snow that was brought onto Gary's podcast to be interviewed >> experience, your service to our country, your professional history, your places of residence, your relationships. They would have an inside look at all of this. But in this case, something that they didn't tell their audience was that you have never met this person. Is that true? You've never met this person that they propped up as your son on their podcast? >> Uh, one time when he was about two months old and his mother came to me uh to let me know she was already living with someone else. Um, we had a non-contentious divorce. It just took a while because I was getting I was pursuing my career in special forces and in the military. She had been in the military. She got out. She went home. she was living with others. Um, and when it came time, um, he was adopted by the person that he's always called dad. I've never met this young man. I've wished him I wish him nothing but the best. Um, if there was uh, if there was anything I could do for him, I'd do it. Um, him and his mother. I I don't think his mother probably would approve of him getting on the show like that, but um you know, it's been a long time since I've talked to talked to her. And I've never met this this young man. And what's really disturbing to me is uh this claim that he was my emergency contact on anything. Um I don't even know his last name. I don't know his number. There's no um I've put him on no documents. I we don't know how he would have gotten on to such a thing. It's been uh that's a little bit disturbing. If there's any truth to what he was saying about being called. >> So, did the military police tell you that they had called somebody? >> They did talk about a son. And when I spoke to them about my 13-year-old, um, they looked at me and they said, "What are you talking about? He's 30 something years old." And I I I was like, "What are you talking about?" Uh, we went back and forth, but they never clarif I I I tend to believe that, yeah, they did contact him and there is some sort of reference um to this person being in my records. Why' they chose to do that? I don't know. That's >> So is it possible that just as this guy pretended to be your son with int >> So they basically go over the fact that Mitch Snow never knew this son, he seen him one time when he was 2 months old. Um him and that and the mother are divorced. They had a very contentious divorce and Gary brought on a son that has nothing to do with Mitch Snow would not be his emergency contact. Uh they could not identify each other if they were out in public. So I think that that's interesting. Well, I guess they contacted Mitch and when Gary said something he, you know, Mitch Snow said, "My 13-year-old." And Gary said, "Wait, no, your son is, you know, 33." And Mitch Snow said, "No." So at that point, they had a son, but it wasn't somebody that had been around Mitch Snow, like I said, would not be his beneficiary, would not be his emergency contact for the base to call him. But yet, we still had the son say that the base called him on the 9th. So that whole thing is very interesting. Again, contacting someone's kids, that is so excessive. Leave the kids out of it. I just thought that that was not right. Again, another lowblow situation. I don't think anybody wants anybody contacting their children. Uh so, really quick, we're just going to listen to a little bit of I just want to show you guys a couple parts of Fort Wuka. Maybe we'll do um we'll try to make it brief. I mean, I don't want to do the whole interview. Um but I know a lot of you guys don't have X, so I'm trying to show you like some of it. There were some really interesting points that are right around here. person experiences and what you saw with your own eyes and that I know that there is proof of because aside from whatever you want to say about photographs or videos and what's in Candace's possession, which I have a pretty good idea, uh I also know other things that you have told me about Fort Wuka and their surveillance capabilities. So why would you come out and say such things having personal knowledge of the capabilities of the cameras that are at Fort Wuka? Why would you do that? >> Yeah, if I could be debunked, they they have all the power to go ahead and do so. Um, they have all the information there if they want to want to release it. >> Describe those cameras for our audience. You describe them for me on these tethered blimp balloon type. And that's the whole point of what we've been getting at is they have every ability, if they really weren't there, to debunk Mitch's story or if they were really there, they have the ability to say, "Hey, my mom works on this base. I was bringing her lunch or I was just visiting my mom." Or Charlie was concerned about security. he was getting death threats. So, we were coming up with some kind of plan to protect Charlie. There's reasons that they could have been at this base, but they're not even trying to give those. Instead, what we're seeing is them attempt to give alibis that are not legit and they're getting caught in lies. And so, that's concerning >> things. >> Oh, those cameras are very powerful. They uh uh they've had capabilities for a long time to be able to see uh every spectrum of of of everything. Uh they can zoom in for great distances. They monitor everything in and around the post. >> How far can they zoom? >> Uh tens if not hundreds of miles. >> Tens if not hundreds of miles. And with what kind of clarity >> down to a pimple? >> So at tens of miles away, the cameras that are present at Fort Wuka could spot a pimple on my face. >> I would imagine. I mean, I haven't worked with those things in so many years, but uh they had those kind of capabilities many years ago. >> Why wouldn't they now if not better technology? Were those balloons, those blimps, were they present the days that you were at Fort Wuka? >> They're present every day. People can see those things from off post. >> So, we're going to skip ahead to the 1 hour mark because that's where they get into him checking into the hotel, all these different things. Uh, a little bit more detail, I think, than what he gave on Candace show. Um, but again going into the cameras and the technology that exists at this base and how these cameras can see, you know what I mean, from miles away uh down to a pimple on your face. So again, if we're trying to de debunk Mitch's theory, why are we not It's It's like you could call the local Publix and be like, "Listen, I do you guys have camera footage from this day?" blah blah blah blah blah. You can get footage. We all have phones. We all have uh data from those phones, pictures. We're all constantly on our phones. There's plenty of technology that people could reach out to the hotel for, you know, hey, uh, you know, can you look at the camera footage? Or if she was at the grocery store instead of the hotel, whatever. All of that could have been provided. So, we're going to skip ahead to right around I wish that uh it showed me the minute mark, but it doesn't. Let's try to get right around here. >> Um, none of these women been do protective order uh literally requesting to have another chance at breaking into my accounts while I was in jail. uh where my accounts were ended up being flagged and frozen because of >> seen the one from Kat Phillips this video and the current contractors to the feds uh but they would be expected to have some proficiency with firearms and some kind of basic knowledge of ballistics. They are perfectly suited and I don't even think your audience completely can completely comprehend the access that they have to about 5,000 green berets. >> So he's talking about Gary in Bajala. They have access to a ton of green berets >> um through back channels that have been trying to reproduce the wound on Charlie Kirk's neck with a 306. That is their job. If they want to support the the case that is currently held up by the FBI, they just have to prove that that wound could be made at that angle with 306 without using magic bullets. And Gary Melton admitted they've been trying and trying and trying. He admitted that he was aging 306 ammo in his basement. Um I I don't know when he expects to solve this crime in 2050 or something. Uh it's just absurd. But they are perfectly suited and they have contacts to so many Green Berets that are are trying to do this. Um they have one job. You've got a medic that knows about uh uh mechanism of injury. It's one of the things you have to determine when there's a when there's a trauma wound like that. And then you have a projectile expert. There's no two better people that should be investigating that. Um or either prove it or disprove it. And if it's not a 30 >> exactly, we're either disproving or it works. >> Six. Um that can make that wound. It's something else. um you're going to have to investigate to something else. And I think that's what Candace Owens and everybody is doing. As far as my testimony, I don't want to speculate on all this. I don't know these people. I just know I saw what I saw. I am who I am. I saw what I saw. I was where I was. Um and if they've got problem with it, you know, I'm so sorry. I wish them all well. I can tell you that when I spoke with Candace Owens or when she finally started speaking with me and Amy, uh, we had no intention of airing my story, any part of it, any of this dirty laundry. We were just giving a tip to say, "Hey, you should probably investigate." We had no idea that we were going to have to prove uh every minute of where we were on those days. But I'll tell you within two hours um you know I'm not the most photographed most important person on earth or anything like that. I don't go around looking at me. I don't myself on podcast. I don't have a a crew a camera crew following me around or a makeup crew. And yet within a couple of hours, Amy and I were able to give uh practically a minute-by-minute blow and confirm everything of of who I am, uh where I was and what I saw uh while I was on that base. Um I don't know why other people find it so hard to to be able to do that. I was expecting um >> and see that's the thing at the end of the day, he is who he is. he saw what he saw. Regardless of whether you agree with his personal choices or not, it does not take away from he's seen what he seen. He saw what he saw. And again, a lot of this if people probably put pressure in enough of, you know, of an uproar, I think why can't the military provide the footage? It doesn't make any sense. You know, there would be some sort of an alibi and it would be simple to I would think it would be >> well, Alex Jones will tell you that they had bulletproof alibis that Congressman Amity and that Kat Phillips and that Erica Kirk have all presented credible alibis. Have you seen them? >> Uh, not all of them. I haven't. I've I've tried not to pay attention to everything. >> Have you seen the one from Cabbat Phillips? this video in the grocery store and the receipt that he provided for his transaction? >> No, I haven't. No. >> Have you seen the one that Erica Kirk provided with her kids? >> I think I saw that one. It popped up on one of the videos. Um, interesting. >> Take us to that day. >> I think he's trying to be careful of what he says because I think at this point it's it's like he already gave the information on what he saw. I don't think he really wants to get in any further trouble. You know, like I told people, what does he have to gain by getting involved in this? It does nothing for him. It actually hurts him. He's he's going through hell and back uh for doing the right thing and just saying what he witnessed. And so I think he's being very quiet about what he thinks of the alibis. And at the end of the day, he does, you know, talk a little about in this interview that he's trying to stay away from all of this stuff because he really didn't even want to get involved. And, you know, he knew when he talked to Candace Owens that, you know, hey, this is going to expose my life. This is going to bring up every ounce of any past I have. This is just part of part of that process. And he knew that that was coming. And he knew it was going to be hard, but he didn't realize that it was going to be as rough as it is. It's just a little bit worse than he thought. And I do feel bad for him and his wife because, you know, doing the right thing comes at a cost sometimes and and this can't be easy to go through. So now Stu Peters is going to have him go through a little bit about that day. Well, his recount of the hotel in the fort. >> Let's get into that. It's because of the assassination of Charlie Kirk that you ended up at Fort Wuka. Is that right? >> No, not at all. >> No, not right at all. No. As a matter of fact, you had different reasons, a lot of them that we just talked about that brought you to Fort Wuka. Isn't that correct? >> Correct. Yeah. >> Okay. So, take us through that. >> Uh beginning to end, the floor is yours. uh why you departed for Fort Wuka, how you got there, at what time it was to the best of your recollection from the minute that you decided that you were going to Fort Wuka and why until you left there. Take us through all that. >> Well, it's been a long complicated story with all of this, but yeah, it began with uh with what I did there 35 years ago. And there was with me being able to present stuff to currently to the FBI and to prosecutors. Um we needed that information. We needed uh I already have that information. I have backups to it. I have the awards. I have the write-ups. I have the reports. I have the orders. Um but there was some other information that I was going to request and I did not want to go to that desert. You know, >> talk about what information it was specifically that you were looking for. You not want to reveal that? Uh it would have been we were going to be looking for the prosecutor's case uh against those that were on the US side that were involved in the tunnel and we were hoping to get some information about that. Uh they weren't cooperative obviously. Um but it was for me to go down there. Um we just realized that this was one of the needed things that I I would be required and this is what people you know when you're telling the truth this is what you do. You go get records. Um it wasn't like I wanted to you know just uh go visit Fort Wuka. Uh I mean it's a wonderful desert and all but it's not that great. Um, I got there on the 8th, uh, morning of the 8th. We had a little trouble getting the rental car. I drove down to Fort Wuka. Uh, got there in the evening at about 537 something. We looked on phone records, was checking in there. Um, I was reminiscing. I mean, when I got there, it was sort of surprising. I couldn't believe that I was, you know, driving up to my old barracks. So, he's just going to go over how it felt to get on base and, you know, just reminisce and um I think he talks about watching the sunrise, that kind of stuff. Well, maybe we'll try to like forward it a little bit. >> Do you know now what kind of watch it was? Oh, so I won't take this back because we'll get stuck, but he's talking about how um he [clears throat] was at the hotel and when he checked in, he saw what he assumes and alleges is Cabbat Phillips. >> Yeah, that was there. U I noticed him because he had a a different sheen. Uh I mean, there was you can tell there's young army troops there that were staying there temporarily probably at the hotel. Um they were over in the like dining area. This man was singled out. He was sitting on the couch in the lobby. He looked um he had a certain stature to him. Sort of stood out. Uh I noticed the watch he was he was wearing. Um well groomed and he was playing with his watch. >> You noticed the watch. Why why did you notice the watch? >> What was significant about that? Okay. >> And uh do you know now what kind of watch it was? >> Uh yeah, fairly certain. Um, yeah, it was a nice watch. Uh, well built pragmatic uh pro. >> Have you done your investigating since on the watch? And because people are saying, "Oh, well that's Kabat Phillips. Is this the guy that you saw?" And you said, "Yeah, that's the guy that I saw." Have you done any investigation into Cabbat Phillips and his publicly available documented photograph history to see if he was wearing that watch in any other photos outside of what you witnessed at Fort Wuka? >> Uh, no. I haven't had any interest. Um, I've seen what I've seen and I've left it at that. >> Um, >> that's different than me. I got to admit, I'd be all wrapped up in this. If I saw what I saw and I knew the >> which is totally understandable. I think he's just a matter of fact. I saw what I saw. [clears throat] That's it. I I don't think he really cares about the type of shoes, the type of watch. Some of us, I know, would probably start to look into certain things. We like, "Oh, I like that. What is that?" Um, but I just don't think Mitch really really cares. So, let's fast forward this minute. >> Um, no. I think uh it's aggravated the situation there. He had a certain stature to him. sort of stood out. Um, I noticed the watch he was he was wearing. Um, um, no, I think uh, it's aggravated the situation. There's been a lot of >> I'm going to try to get this back like to where >> All right. So, >> sorry guys. >> Outside of what you outside of what you witnessed at Fort Wuka? >> Uh, no. I haven't had any interest. Um, I've seen what I've seen and I've left it at that. Um, >> that's different than me. I got to admit, I'd be all wrapped up in this if I saw what I saw and I knew the implications. I would be all wrapped up in this. So, you're a better man than I am for being able to stay focused on what it is that you're really doing in life here, which is trying to get back with your son. Uh, and and by the way, just as an aside here, this whole situation with you, for those that want to say that you're seeking attention, uh, this doesn't do a whole lot to help in support of that mission to get your son back, does it? >> No. No. This is uh, no, this is unfortunately we, me and CS, we talked about this is going to be It's going to be aggravating, but it's also going to be revealing and it's going to be a painful process and you guys have all witnessed it now. Um, no, I think uh it's aggravated the situation. There's been a lot of none of this stuff had to come out. I've never mentioned these people uh why they had to do this or feel the need to. Oh, that's uh you know, it's just so sad on them. Um they Yeah, as far as like investigating stuff, um I'm leaving that up to you guys. Uh, I think the internet's getting pretty keen on things and um, hell a lot better than the FBI from what I can tell. >> All right. So, I'm sorry to frustrate the audience with, you know, stopping your Fort Wuka testimony recap again, but I think that these are important things. So, uh, you know, I think that as I'm thinking of them, they should be documented because this whole thing has just become so ridiculous. Uh, the way that they have tried to paint you as who you are and this attention seeker and this narcissist and a hammer attacker and a violent I mean, it's just it's absolutely absurd and it should be criminal for these people to do these types of things. Um, but I digress. You see him, he's got a sheen, you recognize that, oh, that's a nice watch because you're a watch guy. Take us from there. >> Yeah, nice shoes, too. Um, uh, from there, I went to the, uh, I went to my room, dropped off a few things, came back out, uh, that's when I noticed, um, you know, the woman with those eyes and ponytail, uh, meeting that man on on the couch. And as I went up to the, uh, to the front desk and was asking a question, I was also on the phone with Amy here. And, yeah, that's where I sort of gasped. I had to tell her I was okay, that I was nothing. How far away from How far away from Erica were you? >> Out front desk is like maybe 10 feet to the couch. 10. >> And she was she already seated on the couch by the time that you noticed her? Did you see her walking? >> No, she walked past me. Um walked past on the couch. >> How close did she pass by you? >> And again, um I'm fairly certain it was her. Um >> I am too. >> I don't want to. >> And if it wasn't, um okay. Uh again, it it's a tip. Investigate. see where people were. If it's of any interest from what I've understood, there's a her family has a long history of being there now and so does Deep USA. So, what's the big secret? I don't I don't get it. I happen to be there. >> If you were bringing your mom lunch, Lori France, who has deep >> Exactly what I said. It doesn't make sense if your mom is [clears throat] usually working on the base or she's worked there for you to visit or if you have any kind of connections like that, you could just say, "Hey, you know, we were [clears throat] figuring out a plan for Charlie Security around this time." They talked about Charlie having a lot of threats, being very worried about his safety. She had a priest come to the house to pray. So to have a security meeting, you know, wouldn't have been outlandish in my opinion. So why not just come out and and and just say that? But they're not doing that. And then you have Erica sending photos of an alibi that don't make sense to Andrew Kovette who's trying to get that to Gary from Paramount Tactical. And the 18-month-old son does not look like 18-month-old kid in those photos. In my opinion, those photos don't even look like her children at all. So >> connections to Fort Wuka through her tech firm, E3 Tech, uh, and through EMP proof technology that's tested at Fort Wuka. And if it was really that innocent, then why not just say that? But the fact is, they're not saying that. And the fact is, they haven't even really answered the allegations as to whether or not they were there at all. They just had some random YouTuber show some picture of a couple of kids with a finger over them. And by the way, a photograph that was dated September 9th, and I think that it's important for the record here to state that Mitch isn't saying that he sa Kirk in the lobby on Fortuka on September 9th. He has from the beginning said that he witnessed this Cabbat Phillips Erica Kirk lounge meeting on the 8th of September. So she walks in front of you, she goes over, she sits down. describe the couch. Describe what they were wearing, the walk, the shoes. You said you noticed the shoes. What kind of shoes was he wearing? What brought your attention to all this? And then how did their conversation go? >> Um, well, you can tell that he was waiting on her. They uh she sat uh knees together, hands in her um like between her knees, clasped, and then uh looking at him and he sort of stood up. I I wasn't trying to pay attention to be honest with you. Um I was doing my own thing. So I I went to my room again, came back out. They were getting into a truck and I've described that truck again and everything. The um I went out to dinner uh and you >> just real quickly describe the truck again for our audience in case they missed your original testimony. >> Yeah, it looked green. Uh it looked like a green GSA GMC that uh yeah, it was pretty shiny. Looked nice. Um it looked like >> Given your experience in the military, these types of GSAs are normally used for important people. >> Yeah, they've got the beat up ones that uh that the troops get to sign out all the time or Border Patrol sign out all the time that go out in the desert get beat up. Uh, this one was a little bit more shiny. Yeah, it didn't have all the dents in it. So, uh, yeah, I would guess it's probably one of their better models. >> So, when they were having this conversation with one another, did they look I mean, what were their mannerisms telling you? >> Uh, they were pensive. They were a little bit tense. They were definitely It was like I would guess by the way I was checking his watches, they were they were on a schedule of some type. Um, you know, I don't know. I I didn't uh I was going to go up and ask him about his watch and also ask him if he was in the military and start a conversation with him, but um yeah, I never got that chance. Uh I went to dinner and after that I came came back to the hotel, had a good night's rest. I got up really early in the morning. I went around post reminiscing a little bit. I talked to multiple police officers trying to try to get a feel for where I could begin my request for records. Um got a little frustrated with that. People weren't up and I eventually uh I went to get coffee. I ran into some people that could give me a little information, a heads up on where to start asking questions. So yeah, I went back on post. I asked the officer where these buildings were that they were mentioning and uh he gave me great directions. Um I ended up ended up going there. It's a very unassuming building. There was nobody outside. Um and I've already given my testimony on that with Candace Owens. The only what really cemented it for me is was the overreaction. um this. >> So he goes into what really solidified that what he saw happened to be probably something that was for more of something bad than good was the overreaction that we're seeing from TPUSA. You see Alex Jones, all these people try to discredit Candace Owens. They're calling her crazy. the attack on her, the the the bots, the the paying the bots, the uh different, you know, people now changing their tune about how they feel about certain thing. And um they go into a little bit at this point about the $7,000 of, you know, influencers getting paid to to say certain things and you can just tell by how people are talking about things. And and when you see that going on, you have to ask yourself why because if the truth is the truth, you wouldn't be doing all that. And that's, you know, so that's what they're really going into. Let's try to fast forward. >> We all leave stuff behind. If you want to, if you want to prove where you were, when you were, uh, everybody has a capability of doing that these days. I did it on a moment's notice. Um, if if I'm mistaken, I'm willing to be mistaken. Um, I'm just going to leave it at that. Um, I'm >> Fort Wuka is not just your run-of-the-mill base either. Uh, Fort Wuka is involved in some very specific things. We have mentioned EMP testing here. We have mentioned SCOPS and disinformation and you know military intelligence. Describe and tunnels. Uh describe the importance of that. U what is Fort Wuka really all about? >> Oh um yeah it's a special place. I don't think anybody's ever heard of it until now that that they probably hate my name at that post. I bet that commander is kicking cans every single day at the at the hearing my name. Uh had no idea it was going to go up like this. Um no it's a really special post. That's where we train all of our intelligence people in the military. Uh used to be we used to have Navy people that would go there as well. uh counter intelligence spies, you have interrogators, linguists, uh drone pilots. Back then we did sensors as well. So you got human, you got sensory, you got signal. Um it's pretty special place and they keep it it's fairly lax, a very uh it's a nice place. They keep it like a college campus for the most part as far as the uh the atmosphere between people. Uh yeah, it's it's important to people um you can go visit there. The I think the public can actually go in. They've got a nice park there. Uh it's a great place to go up and look at the sunrise. That's what I did. Um yeah, there's a lot of special things and a lot of resources that that that they have there for um for a lot of different types of operations to include psycho. They got SCOPS there as well. Yeah. >> So if someone were to be planning a public assassination of a prolific figure, would Fort Wuka be a base where it would make sense to have those meetings? >> You know, I I I I had no idea uh prior to going down there what I would walk into. I was there for my own answers. Um, there was a meeting that I apparently uh was witnessed to breaking up. I think they've been able to confirm that at this point. >> There was a police report written about it. You sat with Captain Nef. >> Yeah. >> And that's who you first recognized was Brian Harpole, the head of Charlie Kirk security. And then it was later that you said, "Oh, wait a minute. Wait, let me see that woman again. Those eyes, that's the woman that I saw in Fort Wuka." And it just so happens to be Erica Kirk. So, here you have Brian Harpole, Kat Phillips, who Erica Kirk has a documented history with. We're not going to get into that right now just for the sake of your time and we got to get going here. Um >> and a congressman and Erica Kirk and it was on the ETH when you saw Cabbat Phillips and Erica Kirk who have this notable relationship that's documented. I mean there's all kinds of things that they have attempted to scrub from the internet unsuccessfully that have now of course made their way back because that's what people do. Just like I didn't I didn't know the things that Charlie Kirk was saying right up to his death because I just vehemently disagree with him on a lot of takes and I was one of his biggest detractors while he was alive for the entire time I've been on air. Um, and I didn't realize that all that was starting to switch until of course after his death and you look back, well, what was this person saying leading up to their death? They were just assassinated. I mean, that's just what anybody common sense would do that. And so when Cabbat Phillips is brought up in association with Eric Kirk, the internet is really good at going in and saying, "Well, what is the previous relationship with these people?" And well, there it is. It's very well documented. So these are the people that you say that you saw. And in the wake of all of the pressure that has been mounted against you, you haven't changed that position. Has it actually helped you to solidify? Has it done the other way around? I mean, when you say 95 to 99% that hasn't been shook, that's only been reaffirmed. And I'm saying these things knowing what I know and knowing that I can smell accountability in the water. And I guess for you it's a >> I wonder how much Stu knows more than we do. I think that I'm sure he knows a good amount. I have a feeling a >> little bit different situation because you just didn't ask for any of this, did you? >> No, I didn't I didn't think any of this was going to happen. This has been uh sort of sensational. Um, I you're asking me if if this is going to change u where I was, who I am, what I saw. Not not one bit. Um, again, I'm I'm uh everybody's fallible. Everybody has doppelgangers. I Okay. And if they were there, maybe there's a reason um maybe there's a reason for being there those days. >> And everybody has phones, which means that everybody has cameras and everybody has videos and everybody's able to document where they are and when they're going there. Fort Wuka is a highly surveiled base with technology that the American public has no idea that's even in existence as far as surveillance is concerned. Mitch described zooming in tens of miles on a pimple. Um they know exactly who it was that was on that base. And your testimony given the implications would be very easily disproven by command staff at Fort Wuka, by the Department of Defense, by the Trump administration, by anybody who would want to say this guy is crazy. Um it this very obviously didn't happen and here's the evidence to support what we're saying. But in fact, nobody's doing that. and just as they have surveillance and technology and cameras, you carry a phone and you've already said that you took pictures and videos on this base as well. So, this is all going to come to a head. Um, and you know, I think that one of the things that I respect and admire about you the most is that you didn't come on here throwing mud back at Gary Melton and Valhalla and your exes and this guy pretending to be your son and Alex Jones. And instead, you just kind of said that you feel bad for them. Um, I want to give you the floor here. I've got about five minutes left. >> So, we're just going to stop it there. last five minutes of the interview is basically him talking about how, you know, he feels bad for Gary and certain people who have chose to attack him. And sorry guys, I always have to move around. My back is killing me. But, you know, just as far as he feels bad for them, he said, "I will probably still continue to watch them just for the fact of even if they're spewing disinformation, you should probably want to watch that more to hear what's being put out there, what's going on." He talks about how he's always going to stay true to who he is. He doesn't like that this has brought so much upon him. He goes to church, he prays a lot, and him and his wife are really just leaning on each other during this time. um and know that this will pass and they hope that for after everything that's gone on and what they've been through that they will get these answers for Charlie and that Charlie deserves justice and that was the whole point of him coming forward. You know, he did it with the right intentions. He it was never about money [clears throat] and attention and he's told Candace he doesn't want the money. And really, I just wanted to show this interview because in my opinion, you can tell by looking through a screen if someone is genuine or not. And I get a genuine feeling when I watch Mitch. I think he just looks like a normal person who just lives a normal life. He's just happy, you know, staying in his lane. You know, he's made past mistakes. He's not proud of them. He's not making excuses for them. But he's changed and he's found Christ. And I think he's trying to be better. And you really can't ask for more after someone has made bad choices. And rather than people acting like they've never made a bad choice in their life, you know, I we we've all made bad decisions, some worse than others. Uh some that hurt other people uh and affected other people more than others. But at the end of the day, it's we all have to remember, we're all human. We all get forgiven if we ask for that. And uh as my church always says, you know, when you stand there on judgment day and you ask, you know, uh well, when you when you're standing before God, you want the forgiveness and you want to be led into heaven. But how can you truly get there if you never forgave someone truly yourself? And so for me, it's about it's forgiveness is not easy. And it's not it's hard to explain. It's it's just it's not easy, but we have to do it and genuinely do it because we're all human. And like I said, we've all made mistakes, some worse than others. And I just don't think Mitch's background needs to be brought up and continued to, you know, dig and brought up. The bottom line is he obviously had very, you know, bad relationships with, you know, I I don't think the women are innocent either. There's been documents out there, but that's neither here nor there when it comes to the Fort Wuka story either, you know, and and I believe that he saw what he saw. We're not seeing anyone discrediting him. We're not seeing anyone um being able to prove where they actually were that day. And [clears throat] at this point, the military and like they said, the Trump administration, anybody at this point could discredit Mitch by saying, "Hey, look at here's footage and just a little piece of footage and say, "Hey, this guy is totally totally nuts and we're not seeing that." And the longer it goes, it just makes me convinced that whatever they do give, it's it's been made up. It's been fabricated. Because if you truly had an alibi, we would have got that immediately. It's like the Mikey phone records. Why did we wait months for those? I have to believe that we waited months for those for them to be doctorred. That's just my opinion. So, who knows what's going to happen. I don't know what we're going to see come out of TPUSA. It kind of seems like ever since the Andrew text message with Andrew uh Andrew texting Gary and Gary putting it on his live, it seems like TPUSA is really trying to take a step back. Erica is not saying anything. She's like silent other than, you know, whatever that display of um Amefest was that we saw which was awful. Um you really haven't you haven't seen anything. uh her press tour seems to be over. Um you have to wonder how she went from being, you know, a stay-at-home mother, you know, in interviews where she says it's the most important role to stay home, like women need to stay home, dumped into that CE role so fast and is running with it like she never wanted to leave it. And you know, in her past, she talks about, you know, being in New York and being a city girl and career first, career first. Well, I don't think that ever changed because her behavior now shows that she's way too happy to be doing all of this stuff. So, I don't know. [clears throat] I think we have, you know, they're not even addressing the audits and and and the things that people are bringing out out about the life insurance and um you know, the mishandling of funds going uh to a UPS mailbox that is uh so as someone said in my um comments one day, they said it's the richest mailbox and you know, we were laughing. So anyway, I just wanted to bring you guys that portion of the interview. Um, and it was it was a good chunk of it, but it wasn't, you know, at least it wasn't an hour and a half long that you guys had to listen to that. Um, I think Stu Peters did a wonderful job. I really enjoyed, um, his questioning and just giving Mitch, you know, the floor to go over everything and he seemed really laid-back, you know, a person who I think is trying to lie. They have to really think about what they're saying. And I don't think Mitch appeared that way. I think he answered them right away. He didn't take a lot of thought. And I think that's because he's speaking the truth. And when it's the truth, it just it's there. It it it it doesn't change. There's not different forms of it. And uh you know, he wasn't like sweating bullets like shaking nervous. So to me, the body language says everything. And like I said, I just think Mitch comes off very um normal and honest and genuine to me. and you heard him say like this is not making it easy for him to fight for him to be able to see his son. This is hurting. And um I just can't imagine I can't imagine what that's like to be b in a battle for your child. And then you say, "Okay, well I'm going to throw myself out in front of this bus, so to speak, to try to to save another situation knowing that it's going to hurt something that's so important to you, such as time with your child. I don't know many people that would do that. And so for me, to me, that says even more about his credib credibility. So, I don't know. Let me know what you guys think. Be sure to like, comment, and share. I hope you guys enjoyed the um clips that, you know, we went over with the interview. Again, [clears throat] obviously that fort has tons of tons of intelligence going on on base. And so, uh, that's a whole another interesting aspect. It makes you question. So, we'll see. We'll see what TPUSA comes out with. We'll see if we start to see some real alibis. Um, but we're watching people fabricate them, which doesn't really look good. So for me, the fabrication of all of these different alibis shows there is no genuine honesty coming from there. And anything that they produce, I just I don't know that it's believable at this point. I don't know. Just uh people's actions speak louder than words at this point. And I [clears throat] don't think Erica's looking to give us any answers. So we shall see. All right, guys. I will see you all in the next one.
