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🎙ï¸Public perception of Erika Kirk has shifted dramatically as ongoing commentary and scrutiny have intensified. Candace Owens’ persistence has kept attention fixed on questions, narratives and reputational stakes that might otherwise have faded from view. In today’s media environment repeated exposure shapes image as much as facts do. Once a storyline takes hold it can redefine how a figure is seen regardless of intent. The result is a contested public portrait formed in real time throu
🎙️Public perception of Erika Kirk has shifted dramatically as ongoing commentary and scrutiny have intensified. Candace Owens’ persistence has kept attention fixed on questions, narratives and reputational stakes that might otherwise have faded from view. In today’s media environment repeated exposure shapes image as much as facts do. Once a storyline takes hold it can redefine how a figure is seen regardless of intent. The result is a contested public portrait formed in real time through debate, criticism and defense. This episode illustrates how modern reputations are fragile constructs constantly reshaped by relentless coverage and audience interpretation.
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Video Transcript
Good day, my friends. We are live Super Bowl Sunday. Hey, live from New York City in the bowels of hell's kitchen. 11 degrees, ladies and gentlemen. And it is colder than a well digger's ass. I'm telling you, we are having some kind of fun, ladies and germs. Don't even know where to start. But first of all, welcome. And I'm glad you could be here. Glad you could join us because I'm kind of digging this this evening thing. We'll take this for a while. See how it goes. Let me fill you in on a number of stuff before we get to Erica Kirk. Un unbelievable. Unbelievable. Couple of things here. First, I've watched nothing of the Super Bowl. Nothing except except Bad Bunny. The biggest piece of Pardon my French, but that's a that's a term of art. Pos in the history of mankind. I had to watch it. And I'm looking at Mrs. like, what is this? Now, I'm pretty good. I'm pretty good at extrapolating something artful. I can see a lot of good things. I might say, hey, you know, that's kind of a that's kind of an interesting, you know, but this Oh, no. No. [laughter] This this was so stupid. It it it it defi no you know what it is it was an insult to stupid it was beyond stupid. It was not only not good it was boring and it was stupid. I think the word the operative word here is stupid. Don't don't hold me to it but the word is stupid. It's like nothing I've ever seen or could even imagine. Unbelievable. This is a part of some kind of I guess an attempt on somebody's part to change the course of something. I don't know what it was. And then somebody texted me, "Hey, why don't you watch uh Kid Rock instead?" I've never seen Kid Rock for a second. I don't even know what Kid Rock does. I'm not I mean, I'm not trying to be rude. I just that ain't my cup of tea one way or the other. But all I know is it was a disaster. Absolutely positively without a doubt. I just have to just tell you sometimes I see things and I say, "Well, you know, this might not be that great or maybe I'm maybe I don't get it or maybe it's going to suit." No, this was devoid of anything even remotely remotely insinuating talent, entertainment, message. It was a dog. And I'm telling you, you know, everybody in the everybody everybody in that stadium must have said to themselves, "What the hell are we what are we watching? What is the dear God in any of it?" That was that. Other than that, I don't care. It's bread and circus is my friend and I don't care. I've never cared about it. There was a time in the old days when I kind of like, you know, we used to watch the Super Bowl. It kind of meant something. The commercials were good. The halftime we had, you know, the Stones and No. And it's not because of age. It's not because of age. The thought of people I know, younger people in that particular generation who themselves say, "What is this? We don't know. It was a disaster. Absolutely a disaster. Okay. But so that's that enough. Now next I've got to say this. The Epstein matter. If you're following on X, if if you're if if you if you all you have to do these are the best collators, the best this is the best I've ever seen from people who are incredible people who are bringing going through and and and perusing every aspect of this at levels I never thought possible. And I never knew how demented this was. This was without a doubt and what I've seen is beyond anything I ever could imagine as being that's what I'm going to say. It is so sick. It is so what's the word? sick that I am telling you. I am I can't even say it right now. I can't even go through this. Let me just tell you if you've got some time and you want to see the depths of depravity, my dear friends, please spend a little time, go to X. It just just you will be you'll be gobbmacked that how horrible these people are. That's that. Next. Again, tonight's like what? What? The Nancy Guthrie case is beyond anything I've ever believed. It's It's It is so bad. It's It I don't even know where to start. I don't know where to start. I are you watching tonight on WABC overnights, my friend. Oh yeah, tune in to this. It is I read this this you heard I'm not going to do it or not. We're not going to talk about that. But but this Savannah Guthrie by by the way Savannah Guthrie treated Virginia Euphr like garbage. Garbage. She is no good. She is a part of that group. what her mother what they did to her mother. Let's remove her from that equation. But don't think for one minute she was also in that Matt Lowour. You remember that whole whole uh Natalie Morales stuff? She is up to her. These people are all so corrupt. It's not even funny. But this is a tragedy. But it is the biggest. It is the most incompetent group of people. Finally, they're going in the backyard and they're looking through. They're looking into septic tanks. They've got poles to look for a body. Are you seeing this? They never thought about this. They never said, "Hey, let's go on the roof." This woman had Nest cameras, not Ring. I think Amazon puts out Nest. She never had the subscription. Now they're going back to the sister's house. It's a week. It's a week. Our good friend Steve said, "Uncle L, you are a Jesuit victim. No wonder you are a retired Catholic." Oh, no, no, no, no, no. Thank you for this. The Jesuit priests never they were wonderful. It was [snorts] I loved my specifically my parochial education and the nuns the Jesuits for as I we only had mostly a lot of our stuff were lay teachers but it was always think for yourself. I had one priest, by the way, I said something. I had one priest who wanted to flunk me on something because I had some pretty crazy ideas. And the principal, the principal of the school went to bat for me and said, "You can think whatever you want." What happened in in Venetian days with the Medici and who knows, but I've got no beef with them. I'm a retired because I don't follow the rules. I don't go to mass. I don't go to holy days of obligation. And I have become well, I shouldn't say this, but I kind of came out years ago as being irreligious. I never I never was really into it. I just sort of, you know, I just thought, okay, maybe. But I realized I asked myself one day I said, "Do I do I believe this stuff?" I like, "Not really." Not to mean it's not true. I just don't I'm just not going to say I am something when when I'm not a a follower. But no, no, I've got no problems with them whatsoever. I'm not saying I'm not saying it's never happened before, but thank you for this. The biggest problems parish priests. That's the problem. The parish priest. The parish priest. There's one thing that we found out was uh when the Jesuits because they have a they're almost like the army they call them the popes pope's army Ignatius Loyola admayor de I glorium the pope's army they were more like military and they were they could move people and zap you and you know so in my entire time at Jesuit high school in Tampa we never never even heard of anybody never and I'm not being an apologist it's just the truth I'd tell you if it was the opposite Anyway, thank you very much. So, but this Guthrie case, how how about this? How about this? This this this stupid sheriff who's at a basketball game. It's the biggest case of his life. He's in the best. Now, let's talk about the best one. Erica Kirk, my friend, is there anybody today who has changed their mind and said, "You know what? I've done her wrong. You know, I've uh I had her all wrong. I had her all wrong. She is a she is a delight. She's an honest, sincere young lady who has nothing but the best interest of TPUSA and Charlie's legacy at at heart. She has absolutely no indication whatsoever of who might have been uh involved in his dispatch. Uh, I've never seen there any being any evidence that maybe she was involved in anything. But is there anyone here who have who has come along and said, "You know what? She's she's really something. She she had it right the whole time." No. And what about the latest with the 15year-old girl? The texting. Have you seen this? Have you seen this stuff? Are you are you asking yourself what is what is happening? What is this about? What is this about? Is doesn't it just blow your mind? I'm seeing things right now and I swear to you, I'm asking myself, is there any end to this? Can I believe anybody? Is there anybody I can believe? Is there anybody I can believe? Erica Kirk caught texting or sexing a 50? I don't know about sexing. Uh let me explain something. A couple of things here, my friends. So, please I'm rather excited. First of all, being with you, which is always a good thing. Um when when there are people I know who are a little bit quick to say if if you if if if you are texting or sexing first of all a child it is not right for an adult to be doing that to a child. First of all just the way it looks. Just the way it looks. Kids are special. Stay away. Stay away. Today, I would advise everybody, if you're a parent, no sleepovers. Don't let your kid go to a sleepover. Don't let your kid go to a camp. Don't let anybody over in your home. Because the first time somebody comes along and says, you know, Mr. So and so was acting weird, they will take the kid's words. I have seen this. I mean, upfront. Sorry to say it, but it's true. But anybody who was on a a live talking to a texting, it's not sexing, texting a kid. What is the matter with these people? What is the matter with these people? How de How stupid are you? What is going on with this thing? Stay away from them. Especially kids who were looking to you as some kind of a of a of a of a father figure, mother figure, leader. I can't I can't say it enough. There is something so strange here. And I also know and you know this. They're uncovering everything on Erica Kirk. You know what she's like? Anybody here remember Dynasty? Remember Dynasty with um whatever you know who I'm talking about. Linda Evans and uh whatever how the old the old broad I can't think remember that one remember how we watch every year every every week I didn't really watch it when it was on but years later might have been during co I don't know we're we're watching these stupid shows and that was one of the best best shows ever Alexis or whatever ab Joan Collins thank you remember how you loved the characters of of the kind of like the conniving you know what I mean? The the one that nobody could trust, the one that you knew was, you know, Joan Collins, you you you There's this Well, this is watching. Thank you, Big Dicky. He says, "I knew you were goons. I knew." Hang on a minute. Let me get this right. I knew you were goons. Do the soaps love you? I knew you were goons. Do the soaps. Okay, thank you. Um, by the way, soaps in the old days, they were something. They don't really have them anymore, but just just to follow the plotline was incredible. But anyway, remember when there there was this this kind of like Kruella Deville, the evil stepmother, the one who's who, you know, you read right through. That's this Eric occurr. And the new thing is they're coming forth and they're saying, "Well, she was she wasn't she wasn't invited to Charlie's wedding." I don't even know if this is true that she's jealous. Look, let me explain something. [snorts] This woman is so phony. Did you see recently after she was talking about her husband had died? Her husband had died. Okay? And at one particular point she was saying on one clip that what kept her up at night, what made her weep? I'm thinking, "Yeah, this has got to be good." What? What? Pretel, what kept you up at night? What? What wasn't? She said, "The way we treat Israel?" What? That's your concern? No. No. I'm I'm not. Please. With all that's going on, that'd be like saying climate change or this is where people say if this broad ain't being paid off. Nobody is who would say that. Big Dick says going to do the soaps narrative. Thank you my friend. It's Big Dick by the way. Thank you my friend. Who do you notice this? Steve says best regards from England. Lionel, top of the morning to you, my dear friends. What are you, five, six hours again? Well, it must be 2 in the morning, right? Two, twoish, 3ish. Anyway, thank you, my friend. This is this is this is something. Now, listen. [snorts] The anti-semitic thing is done. Done. Nobody is an anti-semite. There might be somebody. I haven't met him. >> [snorts] >> I've not met anybody who basically has blood in their eye for Judaism. Maybe they're there. Maybe maybe they're there. Problems that you have with Apac or with not just a lobbying group, but a lobbying group where spending billions of dollars does not, you know, this is an axiomatic. This does not make you anti-semitic. Okay, fine. What's interesting to note is that we're past that. That that's that's over with and she's still still with this narrative. [snorts] Is she on the payroll? Speaking of payrolls, go back and look through X. Go back all of the folks. Remember the day they were at the White House? all of the all of the U influencers holding up their b their binders, the Epstein tranch level one or whatever this was. And by the way, please like this. Thank you very much, Rick. Thank you, my friends. Thank you for Please, please like this. It's I don't want to keep busting here, but it helps a lot. Anyway, during the first trunch, I like saying that the first trunch. Did you see what it was? Of all those people, anybody talking about Epstein now? Nope. Simon says, "How long is this circus going to last? I'm from Quebec and it's a disgrace that the murder was solved online and not through the law." Mercy, Lionel, and thank you and God bless you and our great brothers and sisters north of the border. I wish you nothing but the best. Thank god he got rid of Trudeau. Let's see if this if this new fellow. I couldn't believe it. Canada and Australia two hotbeds for the complete destruction of civil liberties and freedom. In any event, all all I know is simply this and there are some things I know that the story the absolute story is the most ridiculous most absurd story about this this narrative involving the particular uh the the the the death the death of Charlie. It's not They're not even talking about it. They're not even talking about it. And she wants to run. She wants to put this through speedy trial. She wants to use her her input as a victim to increase thea through a case through a through a speedy trial or to to increase the solarity of it, which means she wants to be done with it. warehouse says, "Why is the IRS not investigating or the DOJ or anybody except online people?" I don't know. [snorts] I don't know anything. I don't know any. I don't get anything. I don't understand. Did you hear the story of of Trump and the the ape joke or whatever, which is that can't be. I thought to myself, "No, this this fire the person who did this, you know, don't take the heat for that if you didn't. That's just sloppy. Somebody's setting you up." I don't even know what happened with that. I They're making it sound like I didn't say anything. Look, if that's Remember what they did to Roseanne? Remember Remember that whole thing? The Valerie Remember Valerie Jared? She looks like I'm not even going to say it. What What What is going on here? What is going on now? Trump wants to take all of the statues that were taken down by virtue whatever he puts put him in the White House. Look, he's going to trash that place up. I love the guy, but already the Oval Office looks like a like a like a Cracker Barrel gift shop. It's weird. Anyway, back [snorts] to what's going on. If it wasn't for independent investigators, independent independent folks pouring through the various goings on of Erica, we would know nothing. This 15-year-old stuff is I I' I've got to tell you something. You should have a real a real How do I say this? allergy towards things like handling uh uh discarded hypodermic needles on the street. Don't pick them up. Walking through uh Mumbai in the ghettos barefoot. Don't do it. and being on the phone texting with a 15year-old. What is the matter with you? You're doomed. Somebody's going to tell you, "Why were you texting at 15?" Even if you said, "America is the greatest country in the world. God bless America. Jesus is Lord. Hallelujah." They would say, "Why are you texting a 15year-old at 9:00 at night or whatever it is?" These people don't have any optics. And you know why? They feel that they are so special. They're so disconnected from reality. They can do whatever they want. That's like all of a sudden with Epstein, everybody met Listen, Epstein had people over. And [snorts] Mrs. by the way was talking the other day to a a lot of a lot of uh of survivors and she'll she'll talk by the way go to her website not her website her YouTube channel at Lyn's Warriors. Thank you for subscribing. She's got a brand new one. She's got one today about how they're trying to lure kids into betting. Have you seen this? They're trying to get kids and having them get up learn to become gambling addicts. Let me tell you something. That is the worst addiction there is bar none. Big Dicky says you know what's bigger than the island and Charlie Kirk is and US aid NGO's deflection and approbation to the next bread and circuses. Wow man that is that is that is a mouthful but you're right about that and thank you. It's very interesting. Everybody knows what bread and circuses is. Correct. You know this juvenile first century the idea that once you keep panm at cirensesis once you keep the people happy with their grain they called it the grain dole with their bread and things to watch they won't care about anything you want to do with them. Our good friend Alex says will you do a podcast episode dedicated to showcasing some of your favorite fancy words. Oh ebullant concubisence. Oh, loquacious sanguinary. Oh, yes. Well, I would if you if anybody is interested. If anybody is interested. Now, another thing too is what's going to happen next with this. What's going to happen next? First, what what Candace Owens is doing is still the best. And I don't how do I say this? Sometimes we need other people to highlight, but I may be in the minority here, but I really don't need other people. They're very good though, by the way. They're very good. But I'm I'm pointing you to her. I'm pointing you to her. I don't have independent analyses. I don't go through the paperwork of TPUSA and others. I don't. In fact, I'd stay away from that. if you don't know what the hell you're talking about because then you're really getting you're really getting into some from some really nasty stuff. And also when you talk about uh Erica perhaps texting somebody, which is what's being alleged here, don't call her a pedo, don't don't go don't jump. You don't have to say that. You don't have to say it. Just tell me what happened. Let me work the magic. That's all that there is. There's something that happens. Let me also tell you something. And I'm going to say this a little bit different. This is not about Erica per se, but something that I've known. When you live in a world where you are loved. I don't think anybody really understands what it's like. There there might there might be people you might for example be uh loved, liked, um you might be uh attractive, you might have been popular, but when you're at the level of Charlie Kirk and I guess by by derivative matters, his wife, it's very heady. Bill Bar has all the answers. Well, Bill Barr was the one who said that it was it was a self harm. So did Banino and so did Cash Patel. And by the way, I haven't seen Cash Patel in Tucson. Please cash stay away. There's a meme by the way of Millie Vanilli that is so good. Go on X and Y. It's phenomenal. It's Bino and it's brilliant. Brilliant stuff. Anyway, but when you are in the position where you are loved and you are respected and you walk out into onto a onto a platform and people just don't I mean you are like God to them. You are Do you know what that is? Do you know what that does to people? Do you know how heady that is? It's it's an aphrodesiac because it's one thing for people to say, "You're beautiful." It's another thing for somebody to say, "You're holy. You're a leader. You're my hero. You're godlike. YOU'RE SPE WHOA." THAT'S why there has always been such a a a long line of deception in terms of uh ministries, the church, people who've taken because you're talking to people at their most vulnerable. The best is if you're a shrink. Oh my god. If you're unscrupulous, you've got nothing but women coming to you pouring their heart out and you become their surrogate father, which is another thing. There are many many areas of symbolism, symbology, semiodics that we have to understand. And one of the things ladies in particular is the issue of father. If we have any of you young ladies who are sadly the victim of not the victim but if you had but if your parents divorced if you didn't have a father growing up if you you you will always search that you will always search for a father. You will always want to father mean something to you. You've never had it. You've never Sometimes people feel like it was their fault. And when you lose something in life or never had something, you always look for it inadvertently. You don't even realize it, but you look for it or or you become more a me more more sensitive to it, more predisposed. You have a greater predelection towards a father figure, somebody that you can fall in love with, perhaps somebody that you respect, not necessarily somebody who falls into the regular A good predator always can read the prey. Always. And when you're somebody, and I'm not talking about, believe me, let me make this very clear, I'm not talking about Erica, but when you're talking about somebody who is into this self gratification, this thing about look how I am loved, look how hot I am, look how sexy I am, look how I am beloved, and I'm respected. You don't understand. I am so important to these people. I'm not just somebody who's, you know, whatever. They will sometimes not make a distinction between women and girls, same sex or whatever, especially with women. And the reason for that and the reason for that is that it is very common for people to well in our society to women who are allowed to get much closer to each other in terms of not sexuality but intimacy. I know what I'm talking about. Let me explain something to you. This is good to remember. Put this away in your head. In your head. Put this away in your head. Whatever that means. Men and women both find women to be attractive and warm and special and beautiful because of one thing. Mother. If a child does not find a woman attractive, if a child looks at a woman as I don't I I I distrust them. That's not good. If your survival depends on you connecting so societ so evolution has preferred has uh referenced if you will oh look at this Freud father of the craft well in some respects yes but a lot that he said was correct but thank you very much but when you have a woman who represents something to women that is attractive by virtue of this sweet. It's intimacy. Why do you think so many young girls go to college for the first time? They're away from home and they will have their first kind of their samesex experience, not because they're gay necessarily, but because it's intimacy. And a lot of times, as you well know, many many men are Neanderthals. They do not know how to provide this. And if you take somebody who maybe is misunderstood, perhaps maybe who had some a bad go with men, women can satisfy or can can not satisfy to an extent, but can appeal to somebody not necessarily out of any kind of safic or gay love, but something called intimacy. Intimacy. You don't know the number of people, the number of times when people have broken, have a divorce, and later on they met somebody who was also divorced and they become kind of a couple. But it's a it's all right. What am I saying? What I'm saying is you got to be careful that when you're an older woman and you get some 15-year-old or a young girl, not only is she predisposed to wanting to know you because of your fame, because of your pulkitude, but because of all of your of your your inane um you know, panache. But there's also that notion of intimacy. You see, that's what Galileain Maxwell did. Galain Maxwell acted as the stalking horse. the sheep dog. She was the one who went out and lured people in. The stalking horse is when you would walk in sometime. If you were a hunter, if you saw a bunch of your prey sitting around a fire, if you walked into that clearing, they'd run because they'd see you and say, "That's that's a human." But if you walk in with a with a horse and you're behind the horse, they look up and say, "Oh, horse is an animal. He's okay. You're behind him." They lure you. Sheep dog to an extent. Galain Maxwell was the older sister. Trust me. Come on in. Jeffrey likes you. Jeffrey likes you. She knew how to read these girls. Broken home, especially the Palm Beach area, there was this part of Palm Beach where across the tracks these people were very, very poor. And the girls themselves would recruit other girls. Remember, as bad as Epstein was, not everything was him throwing people in the back of a van. There's no excuse for it, but he didn't have to grab people. They came to him. And people know how to read others. had Charlie wanted to be a real a real desperate, a sexual, you know, uh, privateeer, so to speak, a pirate. A sex pirate. He could have just, oh my god, would you like to meet Charlie? Yes. You know, I mean, you then you It happens all the time. So I'm just leaving at that. But you like most of us, we don't have this. And it's we have to understand that you never engage especially in anybody who is a minor. And texting today, sexing to be sure, but texting is the ruination. And why people do this? Why did all these people in Epstein, why did they all send emails? Why? Why did they do that? Does that make sense to you? Why? And where are Charlie's uh where are Charlie's uh uh parents? Where's her parents? Where's all these other people? You know that Erica, they're going to boot her. They're going to boot her. They cannot do this. She's drawing fire. She's m she's winning no one over. She's so phony, so fake. She's repeating the sticktick. And when you're coming out and you say the thing that bothered bothers you the most is not the fact that your husband was slaughtered and gunned down and that your children are the father but because you're worried about the treatment of Israel. Come on. Even Israel is saying what? You're blowing it. No comment. It's happening my friends. And don't think for one reason. Don't think there's a lot of things happening, right? A lot of vectors. You've got the Epstein folks coming this way. You've got the You've got this this complete and total Put it this way. Have you noticed there's not one not one anti- Candice channel that says, "Hey, today here's some great things, some great news from TPUSA." other than TBUSA today. Uh Erica and she read to the she cannot not talk about herself. She can't not do that. If she was smart, she'd go on and say, "Today we gave scholarships to these people and that people. Read from the book of whatever it is. Read it. Do your thing. Uh give some verse. Move on. Stop talking about yourself." But she can't. She can't. It's about her. It's beautiful. And it's like some people don't get it. Go back and listen to the to the to the to the the announcement that going back to the uh Guthrie case that Savannah Guthrie read. What is this? It was the weirdest thing. It's okay. We want to move forward. What? It sounds like bring back the body. It's bizarre. Uh Candace Book Club, Sigman Freud and Jewish mystical tradition. [snorts] Very interesting. Very fascinating. Very fascinating. Freud, aside from this, was so critical by virtue of the fact that he came along during Victorian times when people were into hoop skirts and I mean this was and he they thought we we were at the height not height but the height of civilization with Gerta and this and that and he comes along and what does he talk about? He talks about anal and you know sexual this and repressed feelings and se incubi and succubi. Come on, he was something to an extent he's very very good to an extent. But there is a lot to be said, remember, for reading about the history of Judaism and also Christianity and religion in and of itself to look at the themes, the themes, the references about how there's these these modalities that that come about. It's a fascinating subject. Remember one thing and I say this again. You have nothing to ever fear in asking questions and being how you want to be. You you you have nothing to fear. Nothing. Now today I hope you saw my video this morning. My question is could Charlie be alive today? Could Charlie Kirk right now be alive? Meaning that either he survived an attempted assassination or it was contrived. One of the others. Could he be alive today? Could he? [snorts] Could he be? question is this. I'm not asking a question. Somebody says Charlie is dead. Come on. I'm asking a question. I'm asking a question. Now, there was a time when people were saying is they thought that uh John Kennedy Jr. was alive. I thought, "Oh, that was weird." And then people said, "Yeah, maybe Epstein's alive." I remember they looked at the oracle, the the pa, the pa, the the little uh fold of your ears which have their own kind of like fingerprint. Uh then they talked about bin Laden. Is Bin Laden dead? Why wouldn't they take a picture of Bin Laden? Benazer Bh said he had died before. How do we even First of all, I don't know who they got. But here's my question. How do you know he's dead? I'm going to put you on this on the stand. State your name for the record. How do you know he's dead? What's your main evidence? What's your what's what's your main evidence? [snorts] Do you know what happens when people go into witness protection programs and they disappear? Do you understand this? Do you recognize this? What is the story? When people go into witness protection program, you'd be surprised. All of a sudden, what video did you see? What video? No, I'm saying do you believe this? That was it. Now, there are people who say, "I was there. There's a death certificate." There's always going to be there's always a death certificate. There's always going to be there. Do you believe that if there was I'm asking you a very simple question. I don't want people to get upset by this. By the way, Big Dick says Freud wasn't the problem. It was those that maligned the after. There's a YouTube commercial tracing this psychical manipulation. Um, [snorts] Freud, by the way, thank you. Freud has some very good stuff to say. Not all of it, but let me ask you a question. They wondered about Hitler being remember that one. Is did they get him? Bin Laden. What about Saddam Hussein? How do you know he How do you know this? Well, because people couldn't keep this secret. Really? Think about this. This is one of those things that you got to ask. And you might say to yourself, "Well, I'm only saying that if he wasn't." I mean, it sure looked like it, didn't it? Yeah. It looked like it. Absolutely. But here's the question. Could could is it possible? But I want you to answer my question. But I don't want you to answer my question. Don't just say, "Oh, come on. Come on." If he said, "Is JFK uh dead?" I think maybe that picture of him on the more assuming that's him that's uh that's uh that was pretty good and I think seeing his head you know and the wound certainly was that the wound was that it is that necessarily going to does that it sure look like it is it real I guess it's real of course it's real right is it's there's no way is there do you think that Joe Biden could have died and he has a a double. Have you seen the masks people wear? I'm dead serious. How do you know this? [snorts] How they never showed Bin Laden? That was a phony. And then remember that one Navy Seal that I always kind of wondered about? He apparently said, "Well, I I may have fudged about something." What do you mean something? Well, I mean, you always show the bottom. You always show the the victim. You show the person. You show the individual who is always you always do. You always want there to be something. Elizabeth Kubler Ross in her book on death and dying said that it is critical absolutely critical for people to understand that at the time of Vietnam, whenever somebody is if if a a loved one is gone, whatever you have left, bring it back. If it's a bone, there has to be that word closure. There has to be because if you don't, people will start to imagine, well, maybe he's not dead. Maybe he's in a maybe he's in a jungle. maybe and then they'll start to become almost psychotic over that. There are some things we can use like I believe that George Washington is dead. I think you can say almost axiomatically he's dead. Nobody, no pro. Hang on. Nobody, no proven means, no motive, opportunity. That's by the way, you know that. Thank you. That's all that that detective talk. I guess I always thought to myself, you know, these are the things that you have to ask yourself and when you when you speak there was that there was that famous FBI and by the way I I would put by if I had to bet I'd say put money on him being dead. I think [snorts] it's far more uh far more rational. However, is it possible? Yeah, absolutely. Is it possible that we never landed on the moon? Yes or no? Is it possible? [snorts] Is it possible that we never landed on the moon? I don't know what they did. They went up. They did something that that Did you ever see this? There's one picture. Go to my uh Twitter on at at LO Media where they looked at this limb that came back and was used again. It's the funniest thing. I mean, it's so thin. Do you believe it's possible? Do you know how many people it would take to keep this quiet? Do you not understand the number of people it would have taken to keep it? What's the matter with you? You're sick. You're demented. Don't you understand the number of people that required for you to comm. The Manhattan Project hadund and something thousand people. Many of them, they weren't even sure what they were doing, but they were there. They knew it was something. They always want you to believe that people just don't keep their mouth shut. that people just don't keep their mouth shut or that people just cannot swear allegiance. Do we know yet where they buried Charlie? I don't know. Maybe you could tell me. I [snorts] don't know. What about the fact? Do you think that maybe there's a if I I hope that during the defense they turn over all of the forensics, all the medical examiner, all the point of entry, all the stuff that this Tyler Robbins is going to need to at least pursue a defense. I want to see what happened. I want to see how do you know somebody else didn't shoot him? How do you know that there was not another shooter? And he got up. He didn't get a round obby. Nothing. How do you know anything? How do you know they didn't tell Tyler Robinson, you better keep your mouth shut because you got your family to think about? Okay, so watch what you say. Okay, you know what's good for you? So what they did is what David Burkovitz what um Mory Terry told me they did. How do you know what you know? Where is it? Where is the where? Now, people could say, "Well, you know, we don't get to see everybody who's dead." True. True. But somebody this big, the bigger the story, the less likely you're going to be asking questions. All I want you to do is just ask yourself, is it possible, do you know what the It's a It's It's a phenomenal story. See, that's the part that I think is so fascinating is how I talk about this all the time. How do you know what you know? How do you know what you know? It's called the epistemology of something. How do you know about this? Imagine said, imagine, imagine for a moment that the greatest trick, and this is so interesting to me, and I love this stuff, but but just imagine this, and I talked about it today. I hope you saw the video. Imagine. Let me make sure you see this one because it's it's I think it's very good. And what's great about is that people say, "Oh, come on. That's the best stuff." Whenever you say to me, "Oh, come on." I'm thinking, "Yeah, that's what I like." Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's the, "Oh, come on." thing because that means I've got your attention. Here's the here's the link. And please um watch it at your at your convenience. I think it's very good. I think it's very good. Um, but I gave it a lot of thought and spent some time thinking about this and I wanted you to to think about it as well. But I want you to imagine this. Ask yourself a very simple question. How could this how how could they let's assume your job was to pull this off? How would you do it? What would you say? And that's why I was trying to bring the fact that the the the greatest imagine that the greatest trick that the greatest trick modern government or power ever pulled wasn't convincing people of a lie, but convincing them that certain possibilities are so outrageous and impossible they're not even worth examining. In a future shaped by technology you can't imagine think actual visual AI but biotechnology artificial intelligence total informationational control death and identity might very well become far more kind of flexible than we ever imagined. So, I'm not accusing anybody of anything about any real individual. It's a science fiction thought experiment about how easily our I guess assumptions can be manipulated. Look, we already live in an age where where faces can be digitally altered in real time. Voices can be cloned. Entire video performances can be synthesized from fragments, little pieces of data. And now project that technology forward several decades. Add surgical techniques that could restructure bone, alter skin texture, reshape biometric markers, add genetic therapies like epigenetics and the like that can suddenly change their hair patterns. Jaime says it would go against everything Charlie Kirk believed. He would never let an innocent man sit in prison and possibly die if he were alive. Interesting that you say that. Interesting that you say that. But then again, by the way, thank you. It's a great point. But then again, if there's something bigger or if he could perhaps can be acquitted, he might have been involved in something. How did Charlie ever How did Charlie ever speaking about going against his his his way of thinking marry a woman like Erica who by the way should have stayed home and be been a mom which is what he said but it's a very good point though but but what about stuff today that can suddenly change you know hair patterns and aging uh processes physical traits none of this requires magic doesn't require any kind of uh special voodoo just incremental progress along paths that are already visible little by little. And in this world that we that may or may not exist, it would be technically possible for a public figure presumed dead to be given an entirely new appearance and identity. You don't think that's possible? The mechanics would not even be really the hardest part. The harder part would be managing the narrative, you know, the story line. Human beings rely on, you know, share stories in lore, you know, to to anchor themselves of reality. It's almost like mythology. So when a major figure is declared dead, the public processes the event through you know ritual media repetition, moiraology, emotional closure. We go through this stuff. But once that closure sets in, most people stop questioning. The mind and the soul and you prefer stability over endless doubt. We don't like what I'm saying. We don't like this stuff. We don't like me asking these questions. You're asking yourself, what the hell are you talking about? See, this is this is where incredul this is what I said before. This is McLuhan's line about little lies are hard to keep quiet, but big lies are easy because of incredility. It's the incredility when it becomes a form of security. See, if someone if someone were to suggest that a well-known leader or rock star or pop star was secretly alive and living [clears throat] under another identity somewhere else, the immediate reaction will be laughter. laughter. You're crazy. Not because the logistics are impossible, but because the claim violates certain expectations. Oh, no, you don't. You can't. I'm not going to do that. No, no. This is what I believe in. You can't do this to me. We're trained to treat official narratives as the the the baseline of reality, an immutable reality. It doesn't change. They wouldn't say this if it wasn't true. There's no way you can keep this quiet, right? And to challenge this requires, oh my god, requires extraordinary evidence. And most folks, let's face it, most here do not have the time or the incentive or the inclination to put up with what they consider to be 100% But consider how intel agencies already operate in fiction and in documented serit dominus ver. Thank you. Translation might be nice. I appreciate this sir. I could translate that. Thank you for your kindness. See, I mentioned before witness protection programs. They relocate individuals, people that are famous, famous kind of that you would notice that they're walking around. They give them new names, backgrounds. Deep cover operatives live for years under constructed identities, you know, supported by uh really elaborate paperwork and digital footprints. So in the future with more sophisticated data systems than that which we already have, I mean it could be even easier. I mean when Sammy the Bull was walking around when everybody knew what he looked like and he's running around and people are people are people are basically mafia turn codes and the like those people risk their lives. They had no problem. They were never found. A person could step into a fully formed life with an employment history. Now the the problem would be admittedly if you're Epstein and you go from living on you know 71st Street in a mansion to you know a split level ranch in Pomona you know but it's either that or you probably say I'll do that who knows there sometimes they're so weird these people they might like that but imagine this a new employment history new social connections financial records all of it appear authentic from every angle Now take that and imagine layering that capability onto a scenario involving a high-profile figure and the transformation would need to be perfect but it would only need to be good enough to pass casual scrutiny. Plus remember Americans forget we have the attention span of anat and most social interactions are superficial. So we recognize people by general patterns rather than forensic detail. We don't know all the little specifics and a change in posture or hairstyle or a facial structure and these masks that we have now. Combine that with a new context. Somebody like uh old uh old Epste might think it'd be kind of groovy to do that. He might in some weird way think he's part of a secret agent and might say I'd like to try that. And who would who who would who would see remember when the number of people when they saw his picture when they saw him being taken out of the out of the uh out of the um cell and they looked at their oracles at the pa little little configurations of the of the ear and they said that's not him. Even then people realize wait a minute. So you may not think this is true but it's possible easier than you ever thought because slight of hand you're too busy. You're freaking out. You're not noticing things. And what happens when anybody brings up anything? Hey, they took those SD chips off. Hey, they look look look at how they they they were wearing maroon shirts and Oh, stop that. Because people hate when you destroy their sense of reality. And they hate when you make them feel stupid. And they hate when you do anything that makes them feel as though you know something they don't. That's why they hate sec conspiracy theories. And that's why they hate us. Okay, that's an hour, my friend. You've been so good. How about a big hand for yourself? Wasn't this fun? I like this. I like this time of night. I think you're I think you're kind of group. It's a good time. It's a good uh I'm going to be on WABC tonight overnights 1 to 5. That's like that's just like Thank you for following us here at Lional Nation. Thank you for finding follow following my wife at Lyn's Warriors. Watch her new video about how they're trying to addict kids to gambling. Watch this. And thank you for following us. Thank you for following us. Make sure you continue to follow us. Think about what we're doing and your brilliance and your expertise and your I love your I love the way you think. I love so much about the way you think and I love the way you put all of this into account and how you just are there always to lend support and lend a hand. You are such you're part of the family, a wonderful part of the family and I thank you for this. I thank you for this. And the reason why I thank you for this is because of the fact that you you just add so much. All right, my friends. Thank you. Have a great and a glorious day. I'm going to have some questions for you afterwards in the comment section, in the afterwards section. Please join me. Join us. Your thoughts are terrific. We'll see you again tomorrow. By the way, right now it is 10° in New York City with a minus level of whoever the hell you want to. Anyway, thank you. Thank you. I have no idea about the Super Bowl. I don't know if anybody won or lost. I have no idea. I have no idea. I just know I I was with you on Super Bowl Sunday. And that's what matter. Have a great time, my friends. Thank you so much. 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