[00:00] ["AMAZING GRACE" PLAYS]
[00:05] SPEAK WITH THE PRESIDENT OF THE
[00:07] UNITED STATES AND THE WIDOW OF
[00:08] CHARLIE KIRK WALKING OFF TO
[00:12] "AMAZING GRACE" ON THE VIOLIN.
[00:14] WELCOME TO "THE FIVE."
[00:14] YOU SAW PRESIDENT TRUMP AWARDING
[00:16] THE LATE CHARLIE KIRK WITH THE
[00:18] PRESIDENTIAL MEDAL OF FREEDOM.
[00:19] HE SAID CHARLIE'S NAME IS IN THE
[00:21] ETERNAL ROSTER OF TRUE AMERICAN
[00:23] HEROES.
[00:23] IT'S THE HIGHEST CIVILIAN HONOR.
[00:26] ERIKA KIRK ACCEPTING AND ON
[00:28] BEHALF OF HER LATE HUSBAND.
[00:29] TODAY WOULD'VE BEEN CHARLIE
[00:31] KIRK'S 32ND BIRTHDAY.
[00:32] ERICA SAID THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN
[00:34] THE BEST BIRTHDAY GIFT SHE
[00:36] COULD'VE IMAGINED IN THEIR SEVEN
[00:37] AND A HALF YEARS TOGETHER.
[00:38] LET'S GO AROUND THE TABLE.
[00:40] AS I SAT THERE AND WATCHED,
[00:43] THERE WERE TWO TIMES WHEN SHE
[00:45] BECAME VISIBLY EMOTIONAL, SHE
[00:47] TALKED ABOUT CHARLIE READING THE
[00:48] SAME BEDTIME STORY TO HER
[00:49] DAUGHTER.
[00:51] SHE NO --
[00:52] SHE TOLD HER KIDS CHARLIE WAS ON
[00:54] A WORK TRIP TO CHRISTMAS.
[00:59] A WORK TRIP.
[01:03] >> Dana: IT'S REMARKABLE HE
[01:04] WAS ONLY 32 YEARS OLD NO HE
[01:08] PUBLISHED.
[01:10] ERIKA KIRK, I'VE NEVER HAD THE
[01:13] PLEASURE TO MEET HER.
[01:14] I THINK SHE'S THE BEST ORATOR OF
[01:17] HER GENERATION.
[01:17] SHE CAN BRING A GENTLENESS AND
[01:19] AUTHENTICITY WITH WORDS STRUNG
[01:21] TOGETHER THAT SOUND LIKE A SONG
[01:22] AND THEY COME STRAIGHT FROM HER
[01:24] HEART AND IT MAKES YOU FOCUS AND
[01:26] LISTEN IN A VERY INTENTIONAL WAY
[01:29] THAT SHE WANTS AND AGAIN, IT'S A
[01:31] GENTLE WAY OF LEADERSHIP.
[01:36] I BELIEVE THAT TALKING POINTS --
[01:37] EXCUSE ME.
[01:39] HELP ME.
[01:42] >> TURNING POINT.
[01:43] >> TURNING POINT.
[01:44] THANK YOU I'M SO SORRY, I WAS
[01:45] STRUCK BY HER WORDS, HARD NOT TO
[01:47] GET EMOTIONAL ESPECIALLY WHEN
[01:48] SHE TALKS ABOUT THE CHILDREN.
[01:49] I ALSO LIKE WHEN SHE TALKED
[01:51] ABOUT HE DIDN'T THINK THERE WAS
[01:53] A BOOK BUDGET.
[01:54] SHE HAD SAID HE WAS ON A WORK
[01:55] TRIP WITH JESUS.
[02:01] TURNING POINT USA IS IN VERY
[02:02] CAPABLE HANDS.
[02:05] THE ASSASSIN WANTED TO CHILL
[02:10] THIS SPEECH AND CHILL THIS
[02:12] ORGANIZATION.
[02:12] BASICALLY HE JUST ACCELERATED IT
[02:15] AND THE NUMBERS OF THE PEOPLE
[02:16] ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY THAT WANT
[02:18] TO GET INVOLVED, FROM THE YOUNG
[02:21] PEOPLE, AND OLDER.
[02:23] THE HIGH SCHOOL CHAPTERS,
[02:24] COLLEGE CHAPTERS, NOT JUST THAT.
[02:25] THEN YOU ADD THE DESIRE TO HAVE
[02:28] CIVIL DEBATE ON TOP OF A DESIRE
[02:30] TO RETURN TO THE FAITH.
[02:35] YOU HAVE A VERY POWERFUL,
[02:37] INCREDIBLE MOVEMENT.
[02:38] IT'S ALSO KIND OF STRIKING FOR
[02:40] ME.
[02:41] PROBABLY FOR A LOT OF YOU.
[02:41] THE PRESIDENT ON SUNDAY, GOT THE
[02:46] PHASE ONE PART OF THE DEAL DONE
[02:49] BETWEEN ISRAEL AND HAMAS, FLIES
[02:50] THERE TO BE WITH HIS FRIEND,
[02:53] BENJAMIN NETANYAHU, IN THIS
[02:54] MOMENT, TO BE THERE WITH THE
[02:55] HOSTAGES AS THEY ARE RELEASED,
[02:58] FLIES AND HAS THE MOMENT WITH
[03:00] THEM, HAS BEEN MEETING WITH THE
[03:03] ARGENTINIANS TODAY TO TRY TO
[03:04] SHORE THEM UP AND THEN DOES THIS
[03:07] VERY POWERFUL EVENT AT THE
[03:09] WHITE HOUSE AND HIS DAY IS NOT
[03:10] OVER YET.
[03:12] SO IT'S QUITE REMARKABLE.
[03:14] I COULD MAYBE AND AGAIN, WHAT
[03:17] THE ASSASSIN DID IS ENSURE THAT
[03:20] CHARLIE KIRK'S MESSAGE CONTINUES
[03:22] AND IS AMPLIFIED AND REALLY ALL
[03:25] KUDOS TO ERIKA KIRK WHO IS AN
[03:29] INCREDIBLE ORATOR.
[03:29] I'M NOT SURE I'VE EVER SEEN
[03:31] ANYONE THAT GOOD AND THAT
[03:34] POWERFUL AS A SPEAKER.
[03:35] >> Kayleigh: IT'S INCREDIBLE
[03:36] TO WATCH, SO AUTHENTIC AND REAL
[03:37] AND YOU ARE WATCHING THE
[03:38] PRESIDENT IN THE ROSE GARDEN
[03:40] WHERE HE SAID YOU TRIED TO
[03:41] SILENCE THE VOICE OF
[03:42] RIGHTEOUSNESS WHEN YOU FAIL
[03:44] BECAUSE TRUTH IS UNRELENTING.
[03:45] WHAT A POWERFUL STATEMENT.
[03:46] LAWRENCE, WHEN YOU AND I COVERED
[03:48] THE MEMORIAL SERVICE FOR CHARLIE
[03:49] KIRK, THERE WAS A LOT OF FOCUS
[03:50] ON HER SAYING I FORGIVE HIM BUT
[03:52] THERE WERE ANOTHER THREE WORDS
[03:53] THAT I THINK WERE VERY
[03:55] IMPORTANT.
[03:55] SHE SAID "THEY WILL BE DONE."
[03:57] YOU CAN SEE THAT IN ERIKA KIRK.
[04:00] "THE NEW YORK TIMES," SHE SAID
[04:01] I'M SERENE AND SAYING THEY WILL
[04:03] BE DONE.
[04:03] I SURRENDER TO IT.
[04:04] DO I LIKE IT?
[04:05] NO.
[04:05] BUT GOD'S PLAN IS GREATER THAN
[04:08] OURS.
[04:10] SOMEONE WHO HAS ACCEPTED THE
[04:11] PLAN, AS DIFFICULT AS IT IS.
[04:13] >> Harold: I CONTINUE TO SAY
[04:15] THIS EVER SINCE HIS
[04:16] ASSASSINATION, THAT IS HARD IN
[04:17] PRACTICE.
[04:21] I HAVEN'T FORGIVEN PEOPLE FOR
[04:23] LESS AND THEY HAVEN'T
[04:24] ASSASSINATED MY LOVE ONE.
[04:25] I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE WAR
[04:26] FIRST.
[04:28] IT'S ONE THING WHEN YOU GIVE
[04:28] SOMEONE AN OSCAR FOR A CHECKBOX.
[04:33] SOME PART OF SOME MINORITY
[04:35] GROUP.
[04:35] OR YOU GIVE AN EMMY TO SOMEONE.
[04:42] IT WAS OKAY.
[04:42] ARE YOU GIVE NOBEL PEACE PRIZE
[04:45] FOR SOMEONE WHO HOPES FOR PEACE
[04:47] BUT REALLY DIDN'T ACHIEVE PEACE
[04:49] BUT WHEN YOU GIVE SOMEONE AN
[04:50] AWARD THAT ACTUALLY DESERVED IT.
[04:52] THE MEDAL OF FREEDOM, SOMEONE
[04:53] THAT LAID DOWN THEIR LIFE FOR
[04:56] THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH.
[04:57] YOU ELEVATE THE AWARD.
[04:59] THAT'S WHAT THE PRESIDENT DID
[05:00] TODAY ON HIS BIRTHDAY.
[05:01] TODAY AS HE ELEVATED THE AWARD.
[05:03] I WILL SAY THIS.
[05:06] THERE'S UNQUESTIONABLY STILL
[05:09] THIS STINGING SENSATION WITHIN
[05:10] THE CONSERVATIVE MOVEMENT RIGHT
[05:12] NOW.
[05:13] I DON'T THINK MANY PEOPLE ON THE
[05:15] OTHER SIDE OF THE I'LL GET IT.
[05:17] WE DO CRIMINAL ANALYSIS AND
[05:19] CRIMINAL PROFILES ON MOTIVES.
[05:20] IT'S NOT JUST OF THE PERSON WAS
[05:23] A DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN, THAT'S
[05:24] NOT PART OF THE PROFILE.
[05:26] IT IS THE WHY THEY DID IT.
[05:30] BECAUSE THE KILLER DIRECTLY
[05:31] TALKS ABOUT THE VALUE SYSTEM
[05:33] THAT MANY OF US HOLD, RIGHT?
[05:36] AND MANY PEOPLE HAVE YET TO SAY
[05:39] THAT IS THE REASON WHY HE DID
[05:41] THAT.
[05:42] WE WANT THAT TO STOP.
[05:44] NOT THE DEBATE TO STOP.
[05:45] WHEN WE SEE PEOPLE THAT WE LOVE
[05:48] OR SOME PEOPLE THAT WE KNOW THAT
[05:49] WE WENT SCHOOL WITH HER
[05:53] ANYTHING, MAKE POSTS ABOUT
[05:54] CHARLIE, I HOPE THEY REALIZE
[05:58] THAT WE ARE WONDERING, DO YOU
[05:59] FEEL THE SAME WAY ABOUT ME AS
[06:02] WELL?
[06:03] I THINK THAT'S A CONVERSATION
[06:04] THAT MANY OF OUR FRIENDS NEED TO
[06:06] WRESTLE WITH WITH THEMSELVES.
[06:08] BECAUSE THE ASSAULTS CONTINUE ON
[06:10] PEOPLE BECAUSE OF THEIR
[06:13] IDEOLOGY.
[06:13] >> Kayleigh: THE 22-YEAR-OLD
[06:15] LIT A RAGING FIRE WHEN HE KILLED
[06:17] A 32-YEAR-OLD FATHER OF TWO,
[06:18] LEADER OF A MOVEMENT.
[06:26] >> I DON'T THINK HE COULD HAVE
[06:26] PREDICTED PEOPLE WERE GOING TO
[06:27] END UP TRYING TO FIND OUT WHO
[06:30] THIS PERSON WAS.
[06:30] IT'S LIKE HOW PEOPLE WHEN YOU
[06:31] ARE A CHILD, YOU LEARN ABOUT
[06:33] CHRIST AND YOU'RE LIKE, WHY WAS
[06:35] HE CRUCIFIED?
[06:36] YOUR FIRST QUESTION IS ALWAYS
[06:37] GOING TO BE, WHY WAS THIS PERSON
[06:40] MURDERED?
[06:41] I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO
[06:43] DIDN'T KNOW HIM THOUGHT THAT IT
[06:46] WAS ABOUT OWNING THE LIBS, THE
[06:53] WOKE, BUT IT WASN'T.
[06:54] FADS AND DELUSIONS COME AND GO.
[06:56] THERE WILL BE SOMETHING AFTER
[06:57] WOKE THAT WILL PROBABLY BE AS
[06:58] BAD OR WORSE.
[06:59] IT WASN'T ABOUT THE ACTUAL
[07:01] THING.
[07:01] IT WAS ABOUT, HOW DO YOU RESPOND
[07:03] TO THAT THING?
[07:04] THAT WAS WHAT CHARLIE KIRK WAS
[07:06] TEACHING PEOPLE WAS THAT YOU DO
[07:09] NOT HAVE TO OBEDIENTLY RESPOND
[07:12] TO MOB PRESSURE.
[07:14] YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BEHAVE LIKE
[07:15] THE PEOPLE AROUND YOU.
[07:18] SO FOR KIRK, IT WASN'T ABOUT
[07:20] POLITICS.
[07:21] HE IS ABOUT YOUR RESPONSE TO
[07:23] CONTEMPORARY POLITICS, THE
[07:24] PRESSURE TO BELONG, THE FEAR OF
[07:27] BEING OSTRACIZED.
[07:28] I DIDN'T HAVE THIS WHEN I WAS IN
[07:30] COLLEGE.
[07:32] TO HAVE THIS SHARING OF RISK IN
[07:34] WHICH YOU CAN BE YOUR OWN PERSON
[07:36] AND THERE'S SOMEBODY ELSE AROUND
[07:37] YOU THAT WILL DO THE SAME THING.
[07:40] I THINK HE TAUGHT YOU, HE TAUGHT
[07:42] YOU HOW TO THINK FOR YOURSELF
[07:45] AND HOW TO RESIST THE
[07:45] INTIMIDATION OF GROUPTHINK.
[07:48] PEOPLE SAY OH IT WAS FUN TO
[07:50] WATCH HIM.
[07:51] IT WASN'T ABOUT THAT.
[07:53] IT WAS ABOUT TEACHING YOU TO
[07:57] FACE ANYTHING THAT IS, THAT IS,
[08:01] I DON'T KNOW, JUST AWFUL BUT
[08:05] COMING AT IT WITH REASON AND
[08:08] WITH LOGIC.
[08:10] HE WASN'T FEARLESS.
[08:12] IF YOU'RE FEARLESS, THEN HEROISM
[08:14] IS IMPOSSIBLE BECAUSE YOU DON'T
[08:16] HAVE ANY --
[08:17] HE WAS ABLE TO BRAVE HIS FEARS.
[08:19] HE KNEW THE RISK WHEN HE WOULD
[08:21] TALK TO THESE PEOPLE BUT HE
[08:23] SHARED THEIR RISK ANYWAY AND I
[08:25] THINK ABOUT THAT.
[08:27] SCOTT ADAMS WAS TALKING ABOUT,
[08:28] ALL THE PEOPLE THAT SUPPORT
[08:30] TRUMP FOR THE LAST TEN YEARS,
[08:31] YOU KNOW, THEY KNEW THE REST TO
[08:35] THEIR RELATIONSHIPS, THEIR
[08:37] REPUTATIONS, BUT THEY STILL DID
[08:39] IT ANYWAY.
[08:39] LIKE J.K. ROWLING STANDING UP
[08:41] AGAINST THE TRANS MOVEMENT.
[08:42] SHE KNEW IT BUT SHE DID IT
[08:44] ANYWAY.
[08:45] CHARLIE DID IT ANYWAY.
[08:46] IT'S NOT ABOUT BEING FEARLESS.
[08:48] IT'S ABOUT BEING ABLE TO JUST
[08:50] BRAVE THE FEARS AND I THINK THAT
[08:53] WAS WHEN THE AMAZING THINGS
[08:54] ABOUT KIRK.
[08:55] >> Kayleigh: THE LEGACY HE
[08:56] LEFT.
[08:57] YOU SAW THE PRESIDENT LEAVING
[09:00] THE ROSE GARDEN.
[09:01] THE VICE PRESIDENT.
[09:02] MARCO RUBIO.
[09:04] CABINET OFFICIALS MIXED WITH
[09:05] TURNING POINT USA STAFF.
[09:06] ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ERIKA'S
[09:08] HEAD WAS THERE WAS A RENEWED
[09:09] SPIRIT OF RELIGIOUS DEVOTION IN
[09:10] THE COUNTRY BECAUSE OF HIM.
[09:12] YOU SEE THAT A LITTLE IN
[09:15] PRESIDENT TRUMP.
[09:15] HE'S GOT HIS WAY OF DOING
[09:17] THINGS.
[09:18] "I HATE MY ENEMIES, QUICK WITH
[09:20] THE LANGUAGE USES.
[09:22] HE ALSO SAID CHARLIE KIRK IS IN
[09:23] HEAVEN.
[09:24] HE IS WITH JESUS IN HEAVEN.
[09:29] VANCE ECHOING SIMILAR LANGUAGE.
[09:31] >> Harold: I ECHO EVERYTHING
[09:32] THAT'S BEEN SENT.
[09:33] MY PRAYERS GO OUT AND TO UPLIFT
[09:35] HIS WIFE, WHO I DON'T KNOW, AND
[09:37] THE KIDS.
[09:37] SHE DIED ABOUT HER DAUGHTER AND
[09:39] HER SON WISHING HIM A 32ND
[09:42] BIRTHDAY PARTY COULDN'T HELP BUT
[09:43] BE MOVED.
[09:44] WHETHER YOU'RE A PARENT OR NOT.
[09:48] SHE SAID HE LOVED WHEN IT WAS
[09:51] INCONVENIENT.
[09:51] SOMETHING ALL OF US COULD TAKE A
[09:52] LESSON FROM.
[09:55] HE PRAYED FOR THOSE WHO
[09:56] DISAGREED WITH, PRAYED FOR HIS
[09:57] ENEMIES.
[09:58] WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET
[09:59] BACK TO THAT.
[10:02] FOR ME, KAYLEIGH, THE LEGACY,
[10:03] THE MOST POWERFUL LEGACY, IN
[10:06] ADDITION TO TRYING TO FOLLOW
[10:07] THOSE THINGS WHICH I IMAGINE
[10:09] CHARLIE TOOK SOME TIME TO TRY TO
[10:11] FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO THOSE
[10:12] THINGS AND THE LORD GIVES US THE
[10:13] ABILITY TO DO THESE THINGS.
[10:16] IT'S STILL A STRUGGLE.
[10:17] THAT'S WHY FAITH IS AN EVERYDAY
[10:19] THING.
[10:20] I VIEW HIM AS SOMEONE THAT
[10:22] BELIEVED IN FREE AND SERIOUS AND
[10:22] OPEN-MINDED AND INCREASINGLY TO
[10:25] LAWRENCE'S POINT, SAFE
[10:26] CONVERSATION AND DEBATE.
[10:29] WE'VE GOT TO GET BACK TO THAT.
[10:31] CHARLIE, WHETHER YOU AGREE WITH
[10:33] HIM ON ANY OF THE SUBSTANTIVE
[10:35] ISSUES, HIS SUBSTANTIVE
[10:37] POSITIONS, ONE THING YOU WOULD
[10:37] HAVE TO AGREE WITH HIM ON, AT
[10:40] LEAST I DO, IF YOU BELIEVE IN
[10:43] OUR POLITICAL SYSTEM AND
[10:44] DEMOCRACY AND THE THINGS GREG
[10:45] WAS ARTICULATING, HE BELIEVED IN
[10:47] SAFE DEBATE.
[10:49] SERIOUS DEBATE.
[10:49] FINALLY THE THING THAT I ALIGNED
[10:51] MOST WITH HIM, HE ACCEPTED
[10:52] CHRIST IN HIS LIFE, AS I HAVE,
[10:55] AS I DID AND HAVE.
[10:57] I AM REMINDED, I HAVE WATCHED
[10:58] HIM --
[11:00] I WENT BACK AND LOOKED 18 AND 1D
[11:04] CHARLIE.
[11:05] HE GREW.
[11:06] HE EVOLVED.
[11:07] HE HAD HIS POSITIONS BUT HE WAS
[11:08] A DIFFERENT PERSON.
[11:09] IT REMINDED ME OF HOW HE LIVED
[11:10] HIS LIFE.
[11:13] THE BOOK OF JEREMIAH 29: 11.
[11:15] WE BEGIN TO SEE GOD ISN'T DONE
[11:17] WITH US.
[11:19] DOESN'T HAVE PLANS TO HARM US
[11:20] BUT TO PROSPER US.
[11:21] EVEN IF YOU DISAGREE WITH THIS
[11:22] YOUNG FELLA AND YOU FOUND HIS
[11:24] VIEWS SOMETHING THEY WERE NOT
[11:25] ACCEPTING IN YOUR LIFE.
[11:28] FIND SOMETHING POSITIVE ABOUT
[11:29] WHAT HE STOOD FOR.
[11:32] IF YOU CAN DO --
[11:33] IF YOU CAN'T FIND ANYTHING HE
[11:34] STOOD FOR, LOVED HIS KIDS
[11:36] BECAUSE THEY ARE WITHOUT A
[11:38] FATHER ON HIS 32ND BIRTHDA
