The Question No One Is Answering…

[00:00] this loss and I unfortunately I think we

[00:02] can say already it's hard to imagine

[00:04] getting out of this without being

[00:05] diminished.

[00:06] >> Yeah. I mean what is what is a victory

[00:08] here? I mean you know it's it's also a

[00:10] terrible situation where victory might

[00:14] victory might be the worst case

[00:16] scenario. I mean like you know like

[00:18] victory like if the whole goal is to

[00:19] topple the regime you're like okay but

[00:22] every other time we've toppled the

[00:24] regime in this neck of the woods it's

[00:26] led to migrant crisis and death and

[00:30] terrorism

[00:31] >> you can't topple a regime in the Persian

[00:33] Gulf because the world's energy supply

[00:35] needs to move through it you have to

[00:37] extract it refine it make it into

[00:39] petrochemicals do whatever you

[00:40] fertilizer do whatever you want in the

[00:41] Persian Gulf then you have to get it out

[00:42] of the Persian Gulf so that means you

[00:44] have to have a controlling authority you

[00:46] have to strong governments there or else

[00:48] some rebel group Houthies with drones

[00:53] will shut the whole thing down. You have

[00:55] to have You can't have chaos in Iran.

[00:57] >> Yeah. They call it the Persian Gulf for

[00:59] a reason.

[01:00] >> Exactly. Even if you call it the Arabian

[01:01] Gulf, the other half is Persian. It

[01:03] doesn't m chaos in the Persian Gulf

[01:04] means no energy or fertilizer from the

[01:06] Persian Gulf. Period.

[01:07] >> So you're going to piracy there. So I

[01:10] just So the option to that is keeping an

[01:12] Iranian regime in place. And that means

[01:14] that Iran is more powerful than it was

[01:15] when the war started.

[01:18] >> This is also obvious unless you nuke

[01:20] them, which is, I think, an option. And

[01:23] and then you set off a chain reaction

[01:25] that, you know, is the worst thing

[01:27] imaginable. So anyway, I think there's

[01:30] no way to see this as a win. I pray it

[01:32] is, but I don't see it. If it is a loss,

[01:36] maybe that is not all bad for the US.

[01:40] Well, there is uh I think sometimes

[01:43] things need to get really bad before

[01:44] they get better, you know, that things

[01:46] need to get bad so that people wake up

[01:48] even more. Um there's no question people

[01:51] have woken up a lot, but maybe people

[01:53] just need to get angrier, you know, and

[01:55] and I I don't know. I don't know what

[01:58] >> I'm trying to see this in the fullness

[02:00] of history and God's plan, but I just

[02:02] because it feels like such a disaster.

[02:04] It's affecting my sleep.

[02:05] >> I love America. I have kids. I don't

[02:07] want this to happen. I'm not in control

[02:08] obviously. So, but I do think that like

[02:12] you're often surprised by the downstream

[02:14] results of things. I think people who

[02:16] return from Normandy would be shocked by

[02:18] the condition of the United States and

[02:20] Great Britain 80 years later. They I

[02:22] mean, they are shocked whenever you see

[02:23] them interviewed. Some hundred-year-old

[02:24] guys like we died for this.

[02:26] >> Yeah. No, it's And it's totally I mean,

[02:29] like talk about just disgracing their

[02:31] sacrifice, you know?

[02:32] >> It's the greatest disgrace. our

[02:34] self-abasement is an insult to their to

[02:37] their sacrifice on our behalf. But I

[02:39] wonder if the opposite isn't also true

[02:42] that maybe in your defeat there are

[02:44] things that I know this is true for me.

[02:47] Every time I've gotten sick or gotten

[02:48] fired like I just I understand the world

[02:52] better and I become more joyful and

[02:54] stronger. Do you feel that?

[02:56] >> Yeah. No, I know for sure. I mean many

[02:58] times in my life and yeah, you lose you

[03:00] learn a lot more from your losses.

[03:02] >> Yeah. defeats are actually your

[03:03] victories in respect. That's right. And

[03:05] but the you know the problem is just

[03:07] this is man we're just playing with fire

[03:10] with this thing because it's so

[03:12] dangerous you know it's um

[03:14] >> what worries you most?

[03:16] >> Well um I guess I'd say number one um I

[03:22] what we're doing to those people over

[03:24] there I I mean I think is just like

[03:26] horrible. And I don't say this as like

[03:30] I'm not trying to like virtue signal

[03:32] that I care so much more than other

[03:34] people, but like when your government

[03:36] takes your money and just starts

[03:38] slaughtering people in in poor countries

[03:41] compared to us, you know, there just so

[03:43] profoundly

[03:44] >> what you do to others will be done to

[03:46] you. That's a physics principle. You

[03:48] can't get away from that. So that's just

[03:49] true. Well, imagine imagine like a there

[03:52] was a a guy who was a like a convicted

[03:54] pedophile and he had molested a bunch of

[03:58] like Iraqi children or a bunch of

[03:59] Iranian children and then you were like

[04:01] well I'm going to have him babysit my

[04:03] kids. He only does it over there. You

[04:05] know what I mean? Like he only he only

[04:06] you're like what? No, dude. He's hurt

[04:08] children. You can't let him anywhere

[04:09] near your children. Okay. Well, these

[04:11] these same monsters in government are

[04:12] the ones who are ruling over me and my

[04:14] family and my country. And the idea that

[04:18] you just go kill like, you know, uh I

[04:20] know I said this on on Rogan's show the

[04:22] other day about the the school that we

[04:24] hit where he killed like 165 or 170 uh

[04:27] little girls and then people, you know,

[04:29] give me those numbers haven't been

[04:31] verified. That's just the claim of the

[04:32] Iranian government goes, "Well, our

[04:34] government's not denying it." And in

[04:36] fact, they did an investigation and

[04:37] concluded it was almost certainly us. It

[04:39] was a tomahawk missile. What's the

[04:41] question here? We know where this came

[04:43] from. The only question left is like who

[04:44] gave it that coordinates or or did it

[04:46] miss or was that intentional, whatever.

[04:49] >> But like

[04:50] >> kill a whole bunch of eight-year-old

[04:51] girls. I mean, Jesus, man. Is there

[04:54] anything more evil you could do than

[04:56] that? So, just on a on a basic human

[04:58] level, you know, there's like this

[05:00] >> anyone who would do that, I think it was

[05:02] clearly accidental, but I also think

[05:05] having done a lot of accidental things,

[05:07] it's essential to apologize for it.

[05:09] Yeah.

[05:09] >> And anyone who doesn't apologize for it

[05:10] is a dangerous person. Well, also even

[05:12] >> if you do that to them, you'll do it to

[05:14] my kids.

[05:14] >> Yes. And and it also it stretches the

[05:17] definition of accidental a little bit

[05:19] because even if very specifically like

[05:21] we were trying to hit this building but

[05:22] instead we hit this building and this is

[05:24] a point I've been making largely through

[05:26] the um Israel's destruction of Gaza

[05:28] which is was not that at all. They were

[05:31] just leveling the place. But you go look

[05:33] man like you start you start dropping

[05:36] bombs on people. you start blowing

[05:38] things up and you know innocent people

[05:40] are going to end up dying in that. So in

[05:42] that sense it is intentional and maybe

[05:44] you didn't mean to hit that exact you

[05:46] know target or kill that many people but

[05:48] like if I'm just saying if you if you

[05:50] you know if you blew up a building you

[05:54] know that you you suspected somebody

[05:57] else was in but then it turned out that

[06:00] there were a bunch of little kids there

[06:01] that's still a pretty profound crime.

[06:03] Um, but then of course on on top of that

[06:07] I I really worry about getting trapped

[06:10] into a a broader war, a wider war. There

[06:13] is not I and I don't I'm not saying that

[06:16] I think this is going to be like Iraq or

[06:18] Afghanistan. I think already this is

[06:19] very different than Iraq and

[06:21] Afghanistan. Iraq and Afghanistan did

[06:22] not have the ability to do what Iran is

[06:24] doing right now for one. Number two, I

[06:27] just don't I don't think it's going to

[06:29] be that. I I don't think I I think it

[06:32] would be more the Libya or Syria model

[06:34] than than the Iraq or Afghanistan model,

[06:36] which did require a small amount of

[06:39] ground forces. So, we used head chopping

[06:41] bin Laden in both of those cases. Um,

[06:44] and put the bin Laden in power in Syria.

[06:47] Um, but just to be clear, our country

[06:52] would not survive another Iraq or

[06:54] Afghanistan. There's no United States of

[06:56] America coming out of that. We don't

[06:58] have a 20-year catastrophic ground

[07:00] invasion in us. Like it will it will

[07:02] bankrupt the country. It will destroy

[07:04] the cult the the country culturally. So

[07:07] like so that's a very scary thing. We

[07:09] don't have you know in in the launch of

[07:12] the global war on terrorism. We were

[07:14] coming out of the 1990s. This was a

[07:16] different country in the 1990s you know

[07:18] and and anyone who was alive then knows

[07:20] this people lived here.

[07:21] >> Yes. Yes. different people, different

[07:23] culture, different economic realities,

[07:25] different military realities. Um, now

[07:28] then the other thing that I really

[07:30] really worry about with all of this is

[07:32] that we've never really had we've never

[07:36] dealt with a full like Shiite jihad war

[07:40] against the West. You know, our beef was

[07:42] always with the Sunni radicals. Um,

[07:45] those were the terrorists we had to

[07:46] worry about, the al-Qaeda and and ISIS

[07:48] and stuff like that. And that was quite

[07:50] a big problem. Um, you know, we we had

[07:53] uh um m a lot of terrorist attacks in

[07:56] America and in in Europe, uh

[07:59] particularly ISIS inspired attacks,

[08:01] al-Qaeda as well. And you know, so I've

[08:04] I've kind of called out some of these

[08:06] some of these people. I'll do it again

[08:07] here because they're they're like some

[08:08] of the biggest frauds in the country.

[08:10] These like pretend intellectuals like

[08:13] Sam Harris and Gad Sad and guys like

[08:16] this who have spent a career uh uh

[08:19] demonizing Muslims. Their entire career

[08:21] has been talking about what irrational

[08:24] violent people Muslims are, how awful

[08:26] the religion is, and and you know, and

[08:28] look, there's been some points that I

[08:30] agree with them on. You know, if

[08:32] someone, you know, writes a cartoon

[08:34] about Muhammad, you don't have the right

[08:36] to kill them. Sorry. You want to be in

[08:38] the West. These are our rules here. We

[08:40] value free speech, and I can make a

[08:41] cartoon about whatever the hell I want

[08:42] to make a cartoon about. Okay. But if

[08:44] you spent your whole career arguing how

[08:47] violent and irrational the Muslims are,

[08:50] >> what what is killing an Ayatollah mean?

[08:54] You know, you know, that's not just a

[08:55] political figure. You know, you you

[08:57] murder an Ayatollah and his entire

[09:00] family. And we've already had a couple

[09:02] terrorist attacks over here that at

[09:03] least seem like there was the shooting

[09:05] in uh Austin, Texas that came like the

[09:08] day after we launched the war and the

[09:09] guy was wearing like an Allah Akbar

[09:11] t-sh. I'm assuming that might be

[09:13] related. And so, you know, then you have

[09:16] this real issue of like there's

[09:20] unfortunately in um in the old like

[09:23] controlled American media and all the,

[09:25] you know, the the all the people like uh

[09:28] um Mark Levin and and all these guys

[09:30] when they talk to their audience,

[09:31] whatever audience they got left, and

[09:33] they always love to talk about how Iran

[09:35] chants death to America, you know, which

[09:37] they do, and I'd like it if they stopped

[09:39] doing that. It's not the nicest chant.

[09:41] Um, but none of them ever even try to

[09:44] say to a even approach the question of

[09:48] why

[09:49] why do they chant death to America? Why

[09:51] do they hate us so much? And this was

[09:53] >> they hate us for our freedoms.

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