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The Troubling Reality of Tech Surveillance, Israeli Influence, and America First Promises Gone Astray
Candace Owens and Ian Carroll expose the contradictions within the MAGA movement as it pivots from America First principles to prioritizing foreign interests. The discussion traces how surveillance technology, largely built on Israeli infrastructure, threatens fundamental freedoms while exposing the hypocritical shift from opposing BLM speech laws to embracing anti-Semitism legislation. With Elon Musk's unprecedented White House influence and questions about whether technocrats are genuinely fighting for decentralization or building a centralized surveillance state, this examination challenges conservatives to confront uncomfortable truths about who really controls the agenda and whether the Trump administration is delivering on its mandate to put Americans first.
The Centralization Versus Decentralization Question
The fundamental question facing Americans today centers on control: Would you rather live in a world where systems are decentralized and citizens control small pieces, or where everything is centralized and someone controls your brain chip, locks you down in your home, and dictates how far your car can drive if you don't comply?
This isn't hypothetical speculation. The infrastructure for this level of control already exists, built largely on Israeli surveillance technology deployed across American phones, schools, and emergency response systems. Companies like Palantir, which funded JD Vance extensively, maintain massive AI-led databases cataloging everything Americans do with minimal transparency about what's being recorded.
The MAGA Movement's Broken Promises
The MAGA movement appears to be delivering the bare minimum for Americans while dedicating maximum effort to advancing foreign agendas. The mandate was clear and comprehensive, yet after three months, the administration has accomplished far more for international interests than for the American people who elected them.
This represents a fundamental betrayal of the America First branding that made the movement successful. The original genius of calling it America First made it incredibly difficult for critics to argue against prioritizing American interests, yet the current administration struggles to make their actions appear America First despite their best efforts at backwards rationalization.
Speech Laws and Constitutional Contradictions
The federal government has no recognized official definition of racism, but a comprehensive definition of anti-Semitism exists on the State Department's website. Speech laws are being passed that could criminalize or result in expulsion from school and loss of federal funding for criticizing Israel, all while no comparable protections exist for addressing racism against Americans.
This directly violates the First Amendment on behalf of a foreign nation. The cognitive dissonance reaches absurd levels when the IHRA definition classifies saying Jewish people have more allegiance to Israel than America as anti-Semitic, while supporters simultaneously declare they are Jews first above all else and demand policies prioritizing Israeli interests.
The Stunning Hypocrisy on Free Speech
Many who rose through conservative politics fighting BLM demands for hate speech laws have become massive hypocrites, willing to abandon their principles for access to power. During the 2016 Trump administration, demands for speech laws and hate speech protections were correctly identified as radical leftist overreach. Now the same administration has completely reversed course, declaring that woke policies are acceptable when applied to protect Israel.
Students with green cards are being arrested and deported from the country for their speech. The same people who recognized this as wrong during BLM now pretend to have a total blind spot on this issue. The consistency principle remains clear: people have a right to say what they want about any group if they choose, without special laws creating protected categories.
The Path From Anti-Semitism to Domestic Terrorism
In Europe, arrests for speech critical of Israel are already happening. The IHRA definition has always been carefully described as "non-legally binding," which appears to be deliberate setup language for where this is heading. The trajectory seems clear: you are anti-Semitic, therefore you support terrorists, therefore you're a domestic terrorist, providing justification for government action.
The surveillance state, built predominantly on Israeli technology and Israeli tech firms, creates the infrastructure to track and categorize dissenters. These AI databases lack transparency but connect clearly to policies already implemented in Europe. The walk from speech to terrorism designation appears direct and intentional.
Why America Might Still Resist
Despite these concerning trends, Americans were raised on a culture of liberty, freedom, and free speech that makes total control impossible to achieve. This resistance only succeeds because of independent media voices willing to have conversations that counter official narratives. Even figures who get called controlled opposition chose to have controversial conversations about vaccines and other forbidden topics.
People will only go so far, and the current decentralized media environment allows wise and capable individuals with sufficient reach to speak out and counter narratives. Without this ecosystem, the transformation to surveillance state would likely already be complete. The effort to suppress dissent will continue because free speech represents an existential threat to certain power structures.
How BLM Revealed the Playbook
BLM provided a crucial red-pilling moment for many who witnessed the contradictions firsthand. People were attending multi-thousand person protests in Seattle, then returning to act like masked enforcers of COVID restrictions. The cognitive dissonance was impossible to ignore when watching live streams of what actually happened in the CHOP and the CHAZ, including pallets of bricks and organized violence.
BLM itself likely started with legitimate grievances from black Americans who would have approached things differently had they solely controlled the movement. But when intelligence operations get their hooks into a movement early, they can direct it precisely where they want. The CIA has studied since the 1960s and before how to direct narratives, create cult-like followings, and brainwash people into defending absurd positions on television without being conscious operatives.
Control enough media and airwaves, brainwash enough people to do your work, and you can push movements like BLM exactly where you want them to go.
The Irony of Trump's Anti-Semitism Laws
The situation contains profound irony: Trump was constantly called Adolf Hitler and anti-Semitic throughout his first campaign. Every possible angle was explored to dismiss and disqualify him. Now his administration is implementing laws to condemn the very people who got him into office on behalf of the people who tried to keep him out.
Miriam Adelson is certainly getting her money's worth. One of the most powerful moments in political history occurred during the 2015 primary debates when Trump told Jeb Bush that all the audience seats went to donors, he couldn't get any because they were reserved for donors, and he didn't want or need their money. That energy representing independence from donor influence has completely disappeared.
Was Biden's Failure Deliberately Orchestrated?
Biden's administration crashed so intentionally and obviously that questions arise about whether this was deliberate setup to lay groundwork for Trump to achieve easy wins. Many of the current administration's accomplishments, while good at face value and sometimes critical, don't even move America back past the baseline in some instances.
More concerning, some changes create voids justified by replacing bureaucrats with AI. The messaging suggests technology can handle these jobs better than people, advancing the technocracy agenda that critics have warned about for years. This wasn't a popular take because it goes against both parties, but those sounding alarms about Trump's technocratic leanings deserve attention now.
The Elon Musk Question
A person who has been explicit about his beliefs in data collection and technological control is effectively living at the White House, yet people defend this as necessary because "you needed him for money." You need an accountant to accomplish financial goals, not a technocrat with his own agenda.
The right glorifies technocrats the same way the left glorifies celebrities. Conservatives are mesmerized by Elon Musk's money and success the way leftists were mesmerized by Taylor Swift, becoming willing to follow their political direction. Musk has never faced tough interviews asking how he plans to shrink the same government his businesses rely upon, that he takes money from, that he maintains contracts with.
What Does Elon Musk Actually Believe?
Critical questions about Musk's beliefs remain unanswered. If MAGA is about making America great again by returning to family-based values, how does that align with Musk's personal life and vision? The movement supposedly rejects replacement by AI robots and electric vehicle mandates, yet Musk's business model requires both.
Many Americans don't want electric cars specifically because of the control mechanisms they enable. Nobody wants their car shut off remotely or told how far they can drive based on social credit scores. Musk needs to clarify whether he wants America to become China, because that transformation would enrich him personally.
Musk wasn't MAGA yesterday, yet suddenly original MAGA supporters can't question him because he stands next to Trump. The circle of actors around Trump deserves scrutiny. Spiritual instincts suggest Musk represents the Peter Thiel vision of getting everyone aligned with AI, creating a tech future where humans combine with robots and centralized systems do the thinking for people.
The Good Technocrat Myth
Coming from the left provides useful perspective on technocracy arguments. The idea persists that technology advances regardless, so better to have a good person managing that transformation than a bad one. Elon has masterfully branded himself as the good technocrat, the one you can trust, the free speech advocate, the brilliant founder of multiple companies.
But he isn't actually for free speech at all costs, and he didn't actually found many of those companies through his own work. The clarity of his brilliance within those companies remains questionable.
The Video Game Scandal That Revealed the Facade
The video game scandal provided revealing insight into Musk's authentic capabilities. He claimed to be a top 10 player globally at one of the world's hardest video games, the kind where people play thousands of hours just to beat the third boss out of thirty. He appeared on leaderboards for this game and for Diablo 4.
Then he started live streaming and people realized he didn't know basic mechanics like how items work or movement strategies. Everyone recognized this wasn't a top player. Investigation revealed the entire thing was fake. Why construct a fake characterization as a top video gamer? You cannot be running six companies while dedicating thousands of hours to achieve top-level difficulty gaming. It's physically impossible.
This feeds into conspiracy theories that none of this makes sense, that perhaps the government created these technologies and handed them to Musk to be the public face, generating adoration that allows him to implement whatever agenda his handlers require. There simply aren't enough hours in the day for everything we're supposed to believe Musk accomplishes while managing multiple baby mamas and tweeting constantly.
Musk's Volatile Leadership Style
Musk demonstrates volatility in his treatment of people that contradicts successful leadership. The Ashley St. Clair situation exemplifies this. Leading successful businesses requires getting along with people and handling criticism without locking out accounts over disagreements about H-1B visas. Steve Bannon identified the core issue: Musk cannot take any criticism. This should enable debate on free speech platforms, not retribution.
The Tavistock Model of Manufacturing Leaders
Research into the Tavistock Institute reveals how intelligence agencies literally create public figures. The Beatles represent a perfect example of a psychological operation. Volodymyr Zelenskyy clearly isn't leading Ukraine; he's a literal actor likely trained by the CIA. Emmanuel Macron was an actor with no real power, placed by handlers.
Anyone who examines Macron's career understands he was never in control. David Rothschild held his hand through a supposedly illustrious banking career despite Macron not knowing what EBITDA stood for while working for the biggest Rothschild bank. People who worked with Macron spoke out about this.
During France's elite MBA program, Macron somehow gained admission after failing previously. When exam results returned showing him top of his class, the entire class revolted because they knew he was an idiot. They demanded recognition of fake results. The exam results were cancelled for the first time ever. When Macron became president, he cancelled the entire program because it represented a massive blemish on his career.
Imagine if Harvard students revolted because someone who knew nothing in class suddenly scored first on exams. That happened to Macron. He didn't know anything about banking or business, yet was installed as president of France with Rothschild backing. When someone suggests Musk might be a manufactured character, it sends chills down the spine because the precedent exists and the time requirements seem impossible.
Is Trump Also an Actor?
Donald Trump represents another obvious consideration in this framework. While he may still be his own bullheaded man doing his own thing, having been raised in the business world with certain connections, his incentive structures throughout life have aligned closely with these power networks. It's not clear that Trump is America First in the way ordinary Americans are America First. His own priorities may serve interests beyond those of the people who elected him.
Centralized Versus Decentralized Systems
The divide between centralized and decentralized systems appears across multiple domains. In cryptocurrency, banks are attempting to take the concept and transform it into centralized digital currency models, promising stability without volatility while maintaining complete control. Many of crypto's problems were likely created deliberately to make decentralized options look bad.
Decentralized media has problems too. Independent journalists spread misinformation accidentally and sometimes people spread it on purpose. But the choice remains: live in a world where systems are decentralized with distributed control, or where they're centralized with someone controlling your brain chip, locking you in your home, and limiting how far you can drive based on compliance.
In crypto and finance, in AI and technology, in communications and media, decentralized technologies are changing everything. Crypto is changing money. Independent media is changing news and information. Yet figureheads keep emerging who seem pro-decentralization, pro-free speech, pro-crypto, then somehow the path leads to US government solutions or centralized platforms like Grok being promoted as the best option.
The pattern suggests deliberate capture of decentralized movements by centralized interests, using trusted faces to guide people toward the very control systems they sought to escape.
Video Transcript
Would you rather live in a world where
these systems are decentralized and we
all control a small piece or where it's
centralized and someone controls your
brain chip and they can turn it off and
lock you down in your home and control
how far your car can drive if you don't
play ball?
>> Also, the MAGA movement, it sort of
feels like they're doing the bare
minimum for Americans and what we
actually put them in office for and then
doing the absolute maximum for like Bibi
Netanyahu's entire agenda while being
like, "Well, but but look, we we did at
least Tom Homann did get out 2,000
criminals of in the the border. We've
stopped it." And it's this is a we've
asked you for a lot more. The mandate
was a lot more and you seem to have in
just 3 months done so much for Israel.
You know what I mean? Yeah. If you could
if we could dedicate that same energy to
what you promised everyone that you were
going to do for Americans, that would be
great. But once again, we're left
feeling like this is just a slave
colony. Yeah. And the the fact that it's
called the movement is called America
first originally and that is a stroke of
genius because it is so hard. They're
trying their best, but it's so hard to
make what they're doing look America
first and they're trying to do all these
backwards arguments like how is passing
speech laws that that could like in some
cases criminalize or at the very least,
you know, kick you out of school, pull
your federal funding if you criticize
Israel? There are no laws about racism
in America. There's no if you Google
right now, there is no recognized
definition of racism by our government,
but if you Google America's official
definition of anti-Semitism, there's a
whole page on the State Department's
website about anti-Semitism. And so how
do you call this America first when we
are explicitly going against our first
amendment of our Constitution on behalf
of a different nation. And inside of
those
that saying that people Jewish people
would have more allegiance to Israel
than to America because they're Jewish,
that's anti-Semitic to say while out of
their mouths they're saying, "We need to
do these things for Israel." Or like I
am a Jew first above all else. Things
like that that are like, "What are we
How are we going along with this
cognitive dissonance?" Do you think that
there will be a moment where you we are
seeing Americans arrested because I I
I'm so shocked by the fact that they're
arresting students that have green cards
and getting them out of the kicking them
out of the country and I'm just going,
"Was I alive for BLM when the Trump
administration in 2016 took the approach
that this was really wrong and radical
and leftist when people were demanding
speech laws and hate speech laws for BLM
and we were talking about how wrong that
was and now they've completely done a
180. This administration has done a 180
and they're like, "But okay, but for
this special category of Israel, we can
all of this is actually fine. Like woke
is fine when it comes to Israel." Do you
think there will come a time because
they do have these laws. Like if I go
down to Florida, do you think like Ron
DeSantis is going to have me arrested if
I criticize Israel? I don't know about I
don't know how fast it'll happen, but in
Europe, it's already happening. And they
if you notice the language, the IHRA
definition, they've always been very
intentional to say a non-legally binding
definition, which to me is a direct
setup for where they're going. And this
is something that people like to their
credit, people like Whitney Webb have
been talking about for quite some time
that the surveillance state is vastly
like the vast majority of the
surveillance state is built on Israeli
technology by Israeli tech firms. And
Palantir is a great example. Palantir
funded JD Vance to the nines. JD Vance
is like his whole inspiration for
politics came from the Palantir and
Peter Thiel uh
space. And so those companies, they have
massive AI AI-led databases that are
just surveillance maximal and they have
surveillance on our phones, they have
surveillance in our schools, they have
surveillance in our EMS response
systems. And those databases are
cataloging everything that we're doing.
And we don't really have a lot of
transparency on what they're cataloging.
But when I'm looking at the policies and
I'm looking at where Europe has gone
with said policies and I'm looking at
the people that are behind the policies
in America, I to me it looks like a
direct walk from you are anti-Semitic to
you support terrorists to you're a
domestic terrorist. Now we have a a
reason to come after you. Wow. And I
don't think that America will stand for
it. I think that Americans are wise and
I think that we were raised on a culture
of liberty and freedom and freedom of
speech and I think that they are trying
to do a thing that is impossible to do,
but it's only impossible to do because
of people like you, because of people
like Tucker, because of people in the
media. I mean, even people like Joe
Rogan who gets called controlled
opposition all the time. Like he chose
to have the conversation he had with me.
He chose to have conversations with
people about vaccines. Like people will
only go so far and we have this media
environment now where people that are
wise and capable have enough reach to
speak out and to to counter narrative.
And if if we didn't, I would think that
we'd already be there. But I think
they're going to try their hardest
because it is an existential threat to
the survival of the state of Israel,
which is an existential threat to all
Jews is how a lot of people see it even
though that is anti-Semitic to say based
upon their new speech laws. Right.
That's That's It's just absolutely
incredible to see this happening and
I came up in politics with so many
people who were fighting this BLM stuff,
fighting these laws and I just feel like
they've become massive hypocrites
because all they want is access to power
and they're willing to pretend like they
have a total blind spot on this issue
and just to be consistent. People have a
right to say what they want to say about
any group of people if they want to. And
the idea that there needs to be some
special laws on the book that are now
creeping into the territory of saying
that your religion is anti-Semitic. Oh,
it's directly in the guidelines.
>> Peterson teaming up with the ADL to
produce a report that didn't even spell
psychology right, which was a tremendous
[laughter] embarrassment for that video
to have gone out.
>> Oh, how the Peterson star has fallen.
>> that's been something to see and it's
sad because there's no I had no
hatred at all when he wrote that
I don't know if we have that or we
don't.
>> pill me in the first place. He helped
get me thinking more critically about my
beliefs when I was a leftist starting
and it was BLM that that red pilled me
cuz I was living in Bellingham, which is
like micro Seattle and my roommates were
going out to like multi-thousand person
protests in Seattle and then coming back
and being masked Nazis. And I was like,
"What is going on, guys? This doesn't
make sense." And I was watching the live
streams of what was actually happening
in Seattle and the chop in the chaz,
like pallets of bricks, all sorts of
stuff. And I think BLM is a good example
of another movement that probably right
from the very start was infiltrated by
these people that run COINTELPRO and run
these operations and a lot of the black
people that were involved in that I
think had legitimate perspectives and
legitimate grievances that would have
gone about it a much different way had
they been the ones solely in control of
the movement. But when you get your
fangs in one of these movements early
on, you can and the CIA has been
studying this stuff since the '60s and
before of how do you direct narratives
to get people to follow things like
cults, to get people to sort of be
brainwashed by ideas, not just through
hypnosis and drugs because that's how
you get people doing your job for you,
going on TV even though you're not an
operative, you're on TV vehemently
defending Israel at all costs or
vehemently defending transgenderism at
all costs even though your arguments
make zero sense and even like the
slightest bit of conversation exposes
what's going on here.
If you control enough of the media and
enough of the airwaves and you have
enough people brainwashed to do this job
for you, you can really take a a
movement like BLM right from the start
and push it exactly where you want to
go. And it's just so ironic to examine
this happening under a Trump
administration when when Trump ran, the
entire thing was they kept saying he was
Adolf Hitler. They kept saying he was
anti-Semitic. It wasn't true. They
looked through every possible venue to
to to get this man dismissed because,
you know, he can't run for president.
He's this, he's that. And now he's
allowing his administration to put into
place laws Yeah. to condemn the very
people that got him into the office on
behalf of the people who tried to keep
him out. Well, Miriam Adelson is going
to get her money's worth. That's for
dang sure. Right? And so I just I I
always think back to one of the most
awesome moments in political history,
which was Trump on stage in the first
debates rounds in the primaries in 2015
probably with Jeb Bush on stage and
Trump says, "Those are all their donors
in the in the audience and I couldn't
get any cuz it's only seats for donors
and I don't want your money. I don't
need your money." And it was such a slap
in the face moment and that was a Maybe
it was the same Trump. Maybe it was all
an act. I don't know. But that if like
that energy is long gone.
>> It's gone. And and I I mean, I'm
optimistic about some of the things that
are being done right now, but a lot of
people are right on the money that that
Biden
whoever was behind Biden crashed so much
so intentionally so obviously that it's
hard not to wonder if that wasn't an
intentional setup to lay the groundwork
for Trump to get a whole bunch of easy
wins. Right? Because now Trump is coming
in and Elon and him are doing all these
easy wins that yes, they are good at
face value and a lot of them are
critical to have done. But they aren't
even moving us back past the baseline in
some instances and in some instances
they're actually creating a major void
where, "Oh, we don't need all these
bureaucrats to work this job. We should
replace them with AI." Like we don't
need all these people to do these jobs.
We got technology that can take this
over. And this is where the people on
the internet that have been sort of
ostracized for a long time talking about
technocracy and about how we're walking
closer and closer to this digital
surveillance state. It wasn't It's never
been a popular take because it goes
against both parties. But they've been
sounding the alarm on Trump for a long
time and I'm not ready to say that
they're necessarily right, but I am
ready to say that everyone should be
paying attention to this angle.
>> it's crazy. I mean, it's totally crazy
for me to see the MAGA movement, which I
thought was based on wanting to go back
to how America was, Christian beliefs,
hard work and you know, now we have a
person who's effectively living at the
White House who has been very explicit
in what he believes in. Like he wants
data, okay? He is like he's not in there
because he's and everyone's oh, you
needed him for dough. What are you
talking about? You need an accountant to
accomplish
>> [laughter]
>> this. It's so weird. And I think that
the right our issue is that we glorify
these technocrats in the same way that
the left glorifies
celebrities. It's It's like they're
mesmerized by Elon Musk's money. They're
mesmerized by his success in the same
way that a leftist might have been
mesmerized by Taylor Swift's success and
therefore willing to listen to her
political things. He's never been
flushed out. There's never been a tough
interview asking Elon Musk about how
you're going to shrink the very same
government that you take money from,
that all of your businesses rely upon,
that you have contracts with, you know,
and that's a very important question to
ask him. You don't need to It doesn't
need to be hostile, but what do you
believe in? It's not family, right? So
if we're talking about making America
great again, we're talking about when we
are on the basis of when we were based
on our families and people were not
being replaced by AI robots and not
aspirationally wanting everyone to drive
a Tesla or an electric car. I don't want
an electric car. I want a gas guzzler
forever because I know what comes with
that is more control. Like I don't want
people to shut my car off or tell me how
far I can drive based on my social
credit score.
Right. And I feel like Elon Musk needs
to clarify what he believes on those
issues because I don't want to become
China and I don't know that Elon Musk
doesn't want to become China because
that would enrich him and I don't and
when people instantly defend him I'm
going
Elon Musk was not maga yesterday and now
all of a sudden the maga can't question
like original maga can't even question
him because he's standing next to Trump.
And so I am I certainly am questioning
the circle of actors that are around
Trump and I have never felt good just on
my
spiritual vibes when it comes to Elon
Musk. I feel he's a part of the Peter
Thiel
we're just going to get all of these
people in line with AI and it's going to
be a tech future and we're going to
combine robots with humanity and that
will be that and we will do the thinking
for you. That's the vibe I get from
these people.
>> And so there's
I I understand so coming from the left
has been really useful for me because I
I understand a lot of the arguments on
the other side. This isn't really a
left-right thing, but I I was taken in
for a long time and I still sometimes I
entertain the idea that yeah, technology
is coming regardless. We will march on.
Um and
you know, you could have a horrible
person in charge of that transformation
or you could have a good person in
charge of that transformation. Elon has
done an exceptional job politically
speaking of branding himself as the good
technocrat, as the technocrat you can
trust, as the one that's for free speech
at all costs, though he's not, and the
one that like founded all his own
companies and he's amazing. But actually
he didn't actually do the work to found
a lot of those companies. Like it's not
exactly clear how brilliant his mind is
at in those companies. And the thing
that actually really started to wake me
up to that ironically is the video game
scandal that he had where did you even
realize that Elon was faking that he was
the number like top 10 video gamer at
the hardest video game in the world?
There's this whole scandal. It's fake
and it's obviously fake and people
exposed it at length online that clearly
he didn't know what he was talking
about. He didn't know how the items
were.
>> people might not have I just recently
heard from someone on my team about how
he was the number one gamer. So slow
this down.
>> hard video game. The kind of video game
that and and I'm not super familiar with
this video game, but I used to play a
lot of video games. And it's the kind of
video game that people will play
thousands of hours just to be able to
beat the third boss out of 30 or
something. I'm making numbers up, but
it's like an insanely hard video game
and so it's highly prestigious. And he
came to like he was in the top of the
leaderboards worldwide. Um and then this
other video game Diablo 4, I think it
was, same thing. Top of the
leaderboards, but then he started live
streaming it and people realized that he
didn't even know basic things like about
how this item works and about the
strategy of how you do this like this
movement thing to get the and it was
became everyone was like wait a minute.
This is not a top video game player
playing this game. And then they dug in
more and and it it came out that
basically the entire thing was was a
fake. And and the fact that that you
would construct some fake
characterization of you as some top
video gamer, which obviously you don't
have the time to be the top video game
player of this multi-thousand hour type
of difficulty game while you're running
six companies. That's a ridiculous
thing.
>> wish you hadn't told me this because my
conspiracy theory like where my brain
goes naturally with him is that it's all
too impossible. Like you can't be
running all of these businesses plus be
the number one gamer given thousands of
hours to some random game. And then I
read this random That was where I was
saying I was like none of this makes any
sense and like we're just being told
that he does do all of this stuff, but
what if it's like actually like no, the
government created all of that stuff and
then they just handed it to Elon Musk to
be the face of it so that people would
be just adoring him and allow him to do
whatever it was and allow him to get in
there as if as if he's just like a
player working for somebody else. And I
didn't want to lean into that, but I I
genuinely just go there's not enough
hours in the day for all the things that
we're supposed to believe Elon Musk is
doing. He's able to just leave all of
these three I have the baby mama drama
all over the place.
>> the place. And then also I just find him
to be quite volatile in terms of his
treatment of people. Like even the
Ashley St. Clair thing and I'm going to
lead successful businesses you can't be
like that. You have to be able to get
along, take a little bit of criticism,
right? Be mean we and I think Steve
Bannon hit the nail on the head when he
said you can't take any criticism. And
as soon as someone upsets him he's like
locking out your accounts over H-1B
visas. It's like dude, well can't we
just have like a debate about H-1B
visas? I thought this is the free speech
platform.
>> Yes, and suddenly he got very weird
about it. And so now what you're saying
is that was faked. Like that's a fact.
>> game one was was faked, yeah. And it it
kind of got it kind of got pushed to the
side because video gaming is sort of a
cult culture. It's a very micro like
it's a huge culture, but if you're not
in video games, it's really easy for
that to not come across your feed. Oh
yeah, Gamergate is such a cool rabbit
hole to go down.
>> I got started on Gamergate. forever,
right? And so it was little things
started to add up around Elon that I
started to have more and more questions
about is he really doing what we're
being told he's doing while he's
tweeting all day long? He tweets all
day. Tweets all day. Right? Um and so it
starts to get very concerning as far as
where are we going and who is taking us
there because right now this is more of
a crypto conversation is there's a a
divide between centralized and
decentralized and crypto is the obvious
place for this where the banks are
trying to take the concept of crypto and
turn it into the centralized digital
currency model where oh, it'll be uh
just as good as crypto, but we'll
control it from the from the inside so
there will be none of this crazy
volatility, none of these crazy
problems. Though I think if they created
a lot of those problems to make crypto
look bad, but crypto has lots of
problems. Decentralized media has lots
of problems. Like in our industry, the
decentralized media, people get things
wrong. Like we we spread misinformation
on accident. People can, you know, come
in and spread misinformation on purpose.
But would you rather live in a world
where these systems are decentralized
and we all control a small piece or
where it's centralized and someone
controls your brain chip and they can
turn it off and lock you down in your
home and control how far your car can
drive if you don't play ball. And so
more and more it's looking like in
crypto and finance, in AI and
technology, in communications and media,
in all these different aspects that
control the world, we are seeing the
decentralized technologies change the
change the game forever. Crypto changing
money, media changing the news and
information and and over and over and
over. And more and more we're seeing
figureheads being propped up that sort
of
seem to be on the team of decentralized,
seem to be pro free speech, seem to be
pro crypto, and then we kind of like
somehow walk into this world where
actually it's going to be this US
government thing or actually it's going
to be this like we'll we'll just run
Grok and it'll be the best one ever.
Things like that.
>> you didn't tell me this because I've
just been reading so much about and
speaking about Tavistock Institute. If
you're familiar with that, like they can
quite literally just make someone a
a part of that was creating like the
Beatles. Like the Beatles is a perfect
example. The Beatles was totally a
psychological operation. Don't even get
me started on that. But then just in the
research that I've done of looking at
Zelensky, for example, he's clearly not
the leader of Ukraine. He's an actor, a
literal actor who was trained likely by
the CIA.
>> president of Ukraine before it's like
programming him.
>> you look they're all actors. Like
Emmanuel Macron was an actor. He had no
power. Anybody who has watched my
Brigitte Macron series walks away and
understands that he has never been in
control. He was literally This is why
the Elon Musk thing is bothering me
because they just pretended that he had
this like illustrious banking career
when in reality David Rothschild just
like held his hand up through everything
and he didn't even know what EBITDA
stood for. He didn't even know what
EBITDA stood for. He's working for the
biggest Rothschild bank, okay? So they
do this. It's a fact. Like the people
who worked with Emmanuel Macron spoke
out and said this like he never they
faked his his I'm saying SAT scores, but
there was a
just to add to it if you haven't watched
it.
Um it's more like an MBA program that
everyone goes through at Fran and in
France and it's basically like the cream
of the crop go here and one year
Emmanuel Macron, who was an absolute
idiot and somehow got into this program
after not being able to get into it for
a while, somebody held his magic hand
and put him in it. They got their test
results back and he was the top of the
class and the class revolted because
they knew he was an idiot. And they were
like these these are fake results, fake
results. They canceled the exam results
for the year for the first time ever.
And then when Emmanuel Macron became
president, he canceled the entire
program because it's it's a massive
blemish on his career. Imagine like
Harvard sits for these exams and the
entire like class revolts because
they're like Obama came in number one.
They're like there's no way. He didn't
know anything in class this entire time.
You don't even know how he's in this
school. That happened. Emmanuel Macron
didn't know anything about banking. He
didn't know anything about anything when
he was at school as a part of this
business program and he was fake. He was
just he he literally was installed as
president of France with the Rosschilds
behind him. So when you say something
like that about Elon Musk
about the banking thing and potentially
people just making his character, it
does send a chill down my spine because
I just feel like there aren't enough
hours in the day. Yeah. I mean and um
the other obvious actor is Donald Trump,
unfortunately. Like I don't think I I
still am of the mindset that Donald
Trump is like his own bullheaded man
that, you know, is doing his own thing.
He was raised in the business world. He
was raised but I think that his own
thing is closely aligned with enough of
these people throughout his life that a
lot of his incentive structures in his
own soul are directly aligned with all
these other people and it's not it's not
so clear to me that he is America first
in the way that Americans are America
first.
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