Dave Smith and Candace Owens Refuse to Support an Occupied Trump Administration Following Charlie Kirk's Death

[00:00] And now we demand you tell your audience

[00:02] to go vote for who we want you we want

[00:04] them to vote for.

[00:06] >> F U. F U. I am not doing anything.

[00:11] >> it was so funny listening to um to Mark

[00:13] Levin and Lindsey Graham at this

[00:17] uh this uh genocide uh fest 2025. Um

[00:21] where they're all just they're like

[00:24] you know like if you if you were to hear

[00:26] them talk about it

[00:29] it's like

[00:30] dude just I guess everybody just got

[00:32] possessed by Israel hatred over the last

[00:34] couple years and nothing else was going

[00:36] on in the news with Israel Candace. It's

[00:38] just that I don't know some everybody

[00:40] just kind of they're I guess Qatar must

[00:43] have sent a lot of money around and then

[00:45] everybody was just all you know

[00:47] all all that that's what happened is

[00:49] that like all these people like Candace

[00:51] Owens and Tucker Carlson and all the

[00:53] people who have been household names now

[00:55] for many many years who you know is very

[00:57] successful at the top of the

[00:58] conservative most popular like

[01:00] commentators they yeah they all just

[01:02] sold out their soul for Qatari money and

[01:04] just and and every and their whole

[01:06] audience is possessed by it too and

[01:08] nothing and then they just like they

[01:10] just leave out that part where like you

[01:12] guys committed a genocide in 4K and

[01:14] forced us to pay for it. Like you don't

[01:16] think that had a little bit to do with

[01:17] this? You don't think that had something

[01:19] to do with where we're at today? And

[01:21] this this like you know so one of the

[01:23] things this is what I was getting at

[01:24] before because Charlie was Charlie was a

[01:26] movement guy. Charlie was a big tent

[01:28] guy. Charlie was a guy who wanted to

[01:31] find a way for us to not lose to like

[01:34] the crazy progressive leftists. And

[01:37] you've heard this brought up a lot by

[01:38] Mark Levin and by Ben Shapiro and people

[01:41] like that over this last week. You know

[01:42] we just had an election the Democrats

[01:44] had a good night. Um you go look there's

[01:46] this infighting on the right. And so if

[01:49] we keep doing this we're going to end up

[01:51] losing and AOC is going to be president

[01:53] or something like that. Now of course

[01:55] they just take it as a given that like I

[01:56] guess we're just supposed to shut up and

[01:58] they get their way. That's which you

[02:00] know, like why is that the way it works?

[02:01] But at a certain point, I actually think

[02:04] they're in a sense, they're right about

[02:06] that one argument. And Charlie was right

[02:09] to like be concerned about this. But

[02:11] here's the thing, right? And you being

[02:14] number one and you and Tucker are the

[02:16] biggest two. You're the biggest two

[02:18] conservative people in the news. And

[02:20] like then the as as Charlie noted, as

[02:24] Megan Kelly's noted, nobody under under

[02:26] 30 supports Israel anymore. Barely

[02:29] anyone under 40 supports Israel anymore.

[02:31] It is

[02:32] essentially my point is that you're

[02:34] right. We if we fracture up this

[02:36] coalition, we'll end up losing to the

[02:38] Democrats. But the only way, the only

[02:41] way to overcome that and win is to

[02:43] obviously go with the wind. It's like

[02:46] It's like saying in 2016, "Hey, there's

[02:49] a big divide between Donald Trump and

[02:51] the entire GOP establishment on

[02:53] immigration."

[02:54] They want an open borders and he wants

[02:56] to build a wall. And it's like, "Yes,

[02:57] but you've got him and 100% of the base

[03:01] against you." So the only option here is

[03:02] to go with his immigration policy and

[03:04] then you could win the election. And I I

[03:06] do think this all comes down to the war

[03:08] party and to Israel, which are kind of,

[03:10] you know, one in the same in this

[03:12] country. And it's like

[03:14] J.D. Vance, you can embrace that and

[03:16] lose or you can come over here with the

[03:18] people and have a real shot at winning.

[03:21] What do you want to do?

[03:21] >> look, we have the Republican Party, we

[03:23] have the Democrat Party, and then we

[03:25] have the Knesset Party. And they're in

[03:27] they've infiltrated both of the parties

[03:28] actually. And what's happening right now

[03:29] is left and right people are saying no

[03:31] to that. Um the reasons might be

[03:33] different, but it's it's a populist

[03:35] movement one way or the other. And it's

[03:38] hilarious to me that they think after me

[03:41] watching Charlie Kirk get assassinated,

[03:43] them

[03:45] spitting in our face and telling us that

[03:46] it's raining about everything that

[03:47] happened here. Um the viciousness that

[03:50] they themselves um directed toward me in

[03:53] the aftermath. I mean, the would be

[03:55] like, they tried to say that I didn't

[03:56] even like know Charlie. I mean, it was

[03:58] so they were so intent on making sure

[04:00] that not one drop of Candace being

[04:02] anti-Israel

[04:04] was a part of his legacy, but they just

[04:06] lied. They lied in a way that for the

[04:08] grief that I was going through, like I'm

[04:09] not a crier. I mean, it was like it was

[04:11] a lot. You know, I couldn't eat, I

[04:12] couldn't sleep. It was a lot for me to

[04:14] go through. And I look back and I'm

[04:16] like, "Wow, the nastiness of them doing

[04:18] this." And then like a couple of weeks

[04:20] later, being like, "And now we demand

[04:22] you tell your audience to go vote for

[04:24] who we want you we want them to vote

[04:26] for."

[04:27] >> F you. F you. I am not doing anything.

[04:32] Okay, here's the way it works. Here's

[04:33] how common sense is, okay?

[04:35] You tell me I can do this job. I can I

[04:37] can I can build your house. I can do

[04:39] this. I hire you, okay? I get behind it.

[04:41] I say, "Okay, I hire you. Go do that

[04:43] job." You then don't do it. You look at

[04:45] me and you say, "Epstein who?" Okay?

[04:48] Like

[04:49] you you're at the top of the FBI and you

[04:52] say, "Oh, these are the real messages."

[04:53] You're blocking people as Kash Patel is

[04:56] from looking into Tulsi's team and and

[04:58] and Joe Kent. You saw this playing out

[05:00] in the news. They won't even let them

[05:02] look into whether or not foreign people

[05:04] could have been involved in this. And

[05:05] then you're like, "And now go get out

[05:07] more people to vote so that we stay in

[05:09] power." Nobody, okay? In your famous

[05:12] words, you're fired as far as I'm

[05:14] concerned, okay? And so I don't know

[05:16] what's around the corner, but I do know

[05:18] that my platform is not yours, okay? My

[05:21] platform belongs to the truth left and

[05:22] right, okay? And so it was just

[05:24] incredible to me. They were like, and

[05:25] not even that, they were like, "Get out

[05:26] people and tell them to vote against Mom

[05:29] Donny and to like, you know, get behind

[05:31] in trouble." Okay, if you want to do

[05:31] that, that's your thing, but I'm telling

[05:33] you I'm not doing anything because for

[05:35] me life stopped, political life stopped

[05:38] when Charlie Kirk was murdered and you

[05:39] wanted me to move on. I'm not moving on

[05:40] from it. By the way, it wasn't because

[05:42] of Nick Fuentes and um

[05:45] Tucker Carlson sitting down that MAGA

[05:47] got splintered. It got splintered when

[05:49] you said Epstein who? That's it.

[05:51] Literally for me on my show when I said,

[05:53] okay, what is this? Did the swamp the

[05:56] Loch Ness Swamp Monster come up and

[05:57] swallow the Maga party? Actually, who is

[06:00] the Loch Ness Monster? I think it's

[06:01] Israel. Okay, I think it's Israel

[06:03] actually. And if Trump suddenly joins

[06:06] the never Trump party, which he did,

[06:09] right? Trump joined the never Trump

[06:10] movement. That's what's happening right

[06:11] now. And now they're trying to tell us

[06:12] to join it. I'm good. I was I've always

[06:14] been against the never Trumpers and I'm

[06:16] going to stay that way even if Trump has

[06:18] joined them.

[06:19] >> Yeah, well there's okay, I really that's

[06:21] such an important point. And so I wanted

[06:22] to I just real quick before I get to

[06:24] that. I just do want to say and I made

[06:26] this point last night. I was on on my my

[06:29] buddy Clint Russell's podcast Liberty

[06:32] Lockdown. Clint Russell by the way,

[06:34] criminally underrated. He's great. So it

[06:36] was me, him and Ian Carroll

[06:38] and we did

[06:39] yeah, yeah, yeah.

[06:40] Yeah, well it was a great show. I think

[06:42] I I I bowled over everyone. I talked too

[06:44] much on the show. I apologized for it

[06:46] afterward and I was like, I bet I'm

[06:47] going to get in the comments for

[06:48] this. And I did tonight. So sorry about

[06:49] that guys. It was late. I'd had a couple

[06:51] whiskeys. I was ranting a bit.

[06:53] But it was a great show and you should

[06:55] go subscribe to Clint Russell's channel

[06:56] if you get a chance. But I said this to

[06:58] them on that show and I wanted to just

[07:00] make sure I say this again while you're

[07:01] on on my show that look, I don't know

[07:03] everything about everyone here, but one

[07:05] thing I do know is over this last year,

[07:07] I mean me and you have become friends

[07:08] over the last couple years. Me and

[07:10] Charlie became friends over this last

[07:11] year. From hanging out with both of you

[07:14] and I remember talking to you cuz you

[07:15] know, we'd all talk about all this stuff

[07:16] and I remember talking to you about

[07:18] Charlie years ago when we were hanging

[07:21] out and

[07:23] you were just just had nothing you were

[07:24] like Charlie's the greatest guy. Just

[07:25] had nothing but like I love him to

[07:26] death. He's the greatest guy ever. And I

[07:28] talked to Charlie about you briefly when

[07:31] we were down at the the student some

[07:34] student action summit, whatever the big

[07:35] event where me and Tucker and Megan

[07:37] were. And literally just all he had to

[07:39] say was how much he adored and loved

[07:40] Joe. Like so the idea of people going

[07:42] like there was this distance that had

[07:44] been growing between like okay actually

[07:46] I know both of them you don't know what

[07:47] the you're talking about. That's

[07:49] just a fact and I really I genuinely

[07:50] challenge anybody anybody in Charlie's

[07:52] inner circle tell me the wrong even I I

[07:55] swear even

[07:57] Josh Hammer wouldn't have the goddamn

[07:59] balls. Maybe he would but he's lying.

[08:01] So that's one thing but then on this

[08:03] other thing you know it's it's very

[08:05] interesting and you know that you're

[08:06] absolutely right that it really was the

[08:08] Epstein thing. I said this at the time

[08:10] too that people do not understand how

[08:12] profound what he's done here is to to

[08:16] and it may not even show up in a in a

[08:18] poll. You know I mean his numbers did go

[08:20] down after that but I'm not sure the

[08:22] polls can because a lot of people who

[08:24] support Donald Trump

[08:26] they supported him they voted for him.

[08:27] If you asked him they'd probably still

[08:29] say and do you support Donald Trump?

[08:30] Yeah I'm a Trump guy I'm not a Kamala

[08:32] Harris Democrat or something. But the

[08:34] energy and the loyalty and the

[08:37] enthusiasm were just tremendously

[08:40] degraded by by him but it's the whole

[08:43] political raison d'être of Donald Trump

[08:46] was to drain the swamp and this is the

[08:48] swampiest of the swamp of pedophile ring

[08:50] connected to government and foreign

[08:52] intelligence as like come on. This and

[08:55] and I will say we are great

[08:57] that at that event

[08:59] um which it was a thing that in a way I

[09:03] think saved me because Josh Hammer which

[09:05] was somewhat crafty of him um because

[09:08] it's the best he's going to do debating

[09:09] me. But so what he did for the whole

[09:11] opening of his statement was you know

[09:13] like I'm I'm a me so I get up there and

[09:16] I'm like the neoconservatives were a

[09:18] marriage of the Israeli lobby and the

[09:20] military industrial complex and their

[09:22] clean break strategy is what we embarked

[09:24] on after 9/11 and that's this is the war

[09:27] in Iran and it's the culmination of the

[09:29] seven countries in five years and all

[09:30] that And then his whole opening

[09:32] statement is just every nasty thing I've

[09:35] ever said about Donald Trump. And just

[09:37] look, hey Charlie Kirk Turning Point

[09:40] audience, we love Trump. How about this

[09:42] guy? He don't love Trump. And that was

[09:45] which is a powerful way to to win over

[09:48] an argument. I mean, it's a lame and

[09:50] dishonorable way to do it, but it is how

[09:53] politics works, you know? You get these

[09:55] people like, well, what do you want to

[09:56] be? You want to be a leftist Kamala

[09:57] Harris supporter? You go, "Ooh, no,

[09:59] we're not that. Okay, we'll be the other

[10:01] thing."

[10:02] And then I just went, "Yeah, I'm talking

[10:03] about the guy who just covered up the

[10:04] Epstein story. Sorry, I'm going to

[10:06] criticize that guy." And the whole crowd

[10:08] was back with me because there was

[10:09] something about that moment. I had this

[10:11] experience recently where I did Steven

[10:12] Crowder's podcast. And that's all we had

[10:14] this debate. All he tried to argue with

[10:16] was, "You called for impeaching Donald

[10:18] Trump. You said Donald Trump's a war

[10:20] criminal. You" And then someone showed

[10:21] me the other day, go look through the

[10:22] YouTube comments.

[10:24] Everybody's reject Like everyone's like

[10:25] now like it's it's kind of like, "Look,

[10:28] the the Trump loyalty thing is played

[10:32] out. They are public servants. They work

[10:35] for us. I'm loyal to God. Yeah, I'm I'm

[10:38] loyal to God. I'm loyal to my wife. I'm

[10:40] loyal to my friends. I'm not loyal to an

[10:42] administration. And and to your point,

[10:44] it's like this is not And J.D. Vance or

[10:47] whoever it is is not going to have that

[10:48] type of loyalty from a lot of us,

[10:49] either. Like you got to deliver on what

[10:52] we want. Like and what we want is not

[10:54] bombing Iran and threatening to

[10:56] overthrow Venezuela.

[10:57] >> want war.

[10:59] And we were totally fine. Like the

[11:00] pro-Israel He's always been pro-Israel,

[11:02] but it wasn't a relevant topic in the

[11:03] way that it is today. Like are you going

[11:05] to stand up when Bibi Netanyahu says

[11:07] that he wants immediately wants your

[11:08] bombers to go take out and like you just

[11:10] go do it? And you were going to do more

[11:12] if Charlie Kirk didn't stop it. You were

[11:13] actually going to do more. Okay, that

[11:16] seems pretty corrupt to us. Like the way

[11:18] that Bibi Netanyahu is just on camera

[11:20] being like, "We're going to take over. I

[11:22] need this deal to go through with Tik

[11:23] Tok. I got to" And you're not saying

[11:25] anything. You You were supposed to be

[11:26] the free speech enthusiast. And you're

[11:28] going after college kids. You got Pam

[11:30] Bondi who's like blanking us when it on

[11:33] on Jeffrey Epstein, but responding to

[11:35] like a kid that gets shoved by a girl

[11:38] like

[11:38] >> Yeah.

[11:39] >> on a college campus. He's wearing an IDF

[11:41] He's basically like wearing an IDF shirt

[11:43] asking for it. And a girl gives him a

[11:44] little shove and it requires Randy Fine

[11:46] and Pam Bondi to respond within minutes.

[11:49] You can't figure out the Epstein thing,

[11:50] but we've got like literally an Amber

[11:52] Alert. The feds are like able to answer

[11:54] a quick like I'm sorry. This is a joke.

[11:56] This is not what I voted for and you're

[11:58] not going to struggle session me into

[11:59] the They're like using the ghost of

[12:01] Charlie Kirk. This is what Charlie would

[12:03] want. This is what Charlie would want.

[12:06] It's like was I born yesterday? I don't

[12:07] know, but all I know is that I don't

[12:10] care what happens. You're going to have

[12:11] to work for our vote. When we elect you

[12:13] and you're re-electing you for a certain

[12:14] job, you don't deliver on that job,

[12:15] jokes on you. And I think right now the

[12:17] Trump family is feeling that, you know,

[12:19] you see um that they are I think

[12:21] probably now in retrospect realizing how

[12:24] significant Charlie Kirk was cuz he was

[12:26] damning that, right? Cuz we everyone,

[12:28] even if you disagreed with him, play it

[12:30] people would play his clips. There was a

[12:31] level of respect that people had for

[12:33] Charlie Kirk cuz they sensed his

[12:34] authenticity. He was authentic and you

[12:36] would sense that he would get stressed

[12:37] when he was being pressed not to be

[12:39] authentic and that's now removed. And

[12:42] all we have are these puppets and I'm

[12:45] I'm including Trump amongst this. He has

[12:47] let his base down and stop blaming Nick

[12:49] Fuentes, okay? I'm not a Nick Fuentes

[12:52] fan. Why can't Nick Fuentes have a

[12:54] platform? Why can't he have a

[12:55] conversation? Why can't he talk to Dave

[12:56] Smith and Tucker? The free market works

[12:58] like this, by the way, okay? If his

[13:00] ideas suck, then Nick Fuentes will be

[13:03] beat in the free market. I don't need

[13:04] Nick Fuentes censored. I need you to

[13:07] actually deliver on your promises so

[13:08] that Nick Fuentes doesn't have a He

[13:10] wouldn't have a platform unless you guys

[13:11] were lying about something, right? Like

[13:13] you're lying about something where

[13:14] people feel like they're not getting the

[13:16] truth from this person and they're going

[13:18] and they're listening to more of Nick

[13:20] Fuentes. They They sense that you're a

[13:21] liar. And so stop talking to me about

[13:23] this is Nick Fuentes's of the greaters,

[13:26] you know, the the anonymous frogs, you

[13:27] know, this is their fault. No, this is

[13:28] your fault for not delivering on your

[13:31] promises.

[13:32] And one of those big promises was to

[13:34] protect speech, okay? And we see what

[13:36] you're doing. Redefining anti-Semitism

[13:38] on college campuses. Get out of my face.

[13:41] >> Well, also, look again, there's a

[13:42] certain point, you know, this was

[13:43] actually, it's funny because

[13:46] my my friend Daryl Cooper, when he was

[13:48] on Tucker Carlson, he had this big

[13:51] controversy over people totally

[13:52] misconstruing the thing that he was

[13:54] saying. But if you actually listen to

[13:56] the thing that he was saying, what he

[13:58] was saying was that, "Look,

[14:01] the he goes, "Even if you want to take

[14:03] the most generous interpretation of

[14:05] Adolf Hitler, if you want to find a way

[14:06] to try to be on his side, he's

[14:08] responsible for the people who died

[14:10] under his custody." And the point he was

[14:12] ultimately making was like, "Look,

[14:14] Israel, if you launch a war in Gaza and

[14:16] you don't have a plan for how to protect

[14:18] protect the civilians there, then you're

[14:20] responsible for their death." Like that

[14:22] it doesn't matter in a sense whether you

[14:24] shot him in the head or in the same

[14:26] sense where like, "If you kidnap someone

[14:29] and you you lock him in your basement

[14:31] and just don't feed him and then they

[14:32] die, you murdered that person." It

[14:35] doesn't You didn't just kidnap them now.

[14:36] Now you kidnapped and murdered them

[14:38] because you're responsible for that. It

[14:39] doesn't matter if you locked him down

[14:40] there and shot him in the head or just

[14:41] let him starve to death, you still put

[14:43] him in the situation where So that was

[14:44] his point. And likewise, to Donald

[14:46] Trump, it's like, "Whether you even know

[14:48] about any of this or not, you're still

[14:52] doing it. You've allowed your

[14:53] administration to be taken over by these

[14:55] guys." Now, look, I mean, I don't even

[14:57] think to use an example about me, right?

[14:59] Like, I don't think that Donald Trump

[15:02] watched my debate with Douglas Murray

[15:04] and then decided to promote Douglas

[15:06] Murray's book the next day. But somebody

[15:09] who's got access to Donald Trump's

[15:11] Twitter or whatever decided to the next

[15:13] day promote this book after it was like

[15:15] this and okay, whatever. Like, I didn't

[15:18] care. I kind of took that as a feather

[15:19] in my cap. Like, yeah, you got to call

[15:20] in the big dogs to try to get us out of

[15:22] this. But at the end of all of this,

[15:25] what whatever it is, it's like the Trump

[15:27] administration here has obviously been

[15:31] much more captured by Netanyahu and Mark

[15:36] Levin than by Candace Owens.

[15:38] >> Yes, it's occupied. Everybody can see

[15:41] this is an occupied administration. And

[15:43] I love how they're I think right now I'm

[15:44] trending on X over there. So Candace

[15:45] Owens says she regrets her vote.

[15:47] You're not going to shame me for saying

[15:50] everything you're doing is unacceptable.

[15:52] Try a mom on the Epstein stuff, okay?

[15:54] Try a mother if you think I care more

[15:56] about loyalty to the MAGA cause than I

[15:58] care about pedophiles in positions of

[16:01] power getting away with it, you are out

[16:04] of your mind. You must have not listened

[16:05] to a single second of the Candace Owens

[16:07] podcast. You must have never listened to

[16:09] a thing I've ever said if you think that

[16:11] I am that blind and dumb and loyal to

[16:14] any person, left or right, that I'm

[16:15] going to go, "Okay, we got to let the we

[16:16] got to let pedophilia go." "Okay, we got

[16:18] to just move on. It's a hoax." You know,

[16:20] I know he actually went to prison for

[16:22] it, okay? But it's it's a hoax and let's

[16:24] move on to It's a Democrat hoax. I mean,

[16:26] it is just it's so insulting and you are

[16:28] correct that you know that some of these

[16:30] things are coming from people around

[16:32] him, like immediately tweeting out. It's

[16:33] so disrespectful when Charlie died, a

[16:36] photo of Charlie AI. Do I think Donald

[16:38] Trump hopped on AI and made this photo

[16:41] of Charlie and him holding

[16:43] uh uh the Israeli-American flag combo?

[16:45] No. But I'm sorry, if if you're not

[16:48] capable enough to control people around

[16:50] you, then you shouldn't be in a position

[16:52] of power, okay? I don't get to uh if

[16:54] something goes out on my account, right?

[16:56] And and people go, "Oh, but this is on

[16:58] your account." I don't get to go, "Oh,

[16:59] well, you know what? My producer had

[17:01] access to that." It's like, "Okay, but

[17:03] that's your account, so

[17:05] you take the blame, okay?" The captain

[17:07] goes down with the ship and we don't

[17:08] even know, you know, who's in control,

[17:10] but we know it's not Trump. So this is

[17:12] effectively like the Biden

[17:13] administration, but totally actually

[17:15] worse because Trump has his wits about

[17:17] him, right? So, with Biden at least we

[17:19] knew

[17:21] that he had dementia before they

[17:23] admitted it. At least we knew he wasn't

[17:24] in control the whole time. It's almost

[17:26] worse because Trump doesn't have

[17:28] dementia because Trump is actually sharp

[17:30] and he is aware and he is still occupied

[17:32] and somebody else is calling the shots.

[17:34] >> Yeah, one that's that's right. And the

[17:36] fact that you you know,

[17:40] these guys

[17:42] who all of them, you know, like I've had

[17:43] this experience where like I said

[17:45] >> Josh Hammer, that's how he tried to

[17:46] debate me. That's how Steven Crowder

[17:47] tried to debate me. This guy's not

[17:49] pro-Trump. We're the pro-Trump side. Ben

[17:51] Shapiro did like several segments on me

[17:53] over the years and the running joke was

[17:55] that he would never say my name. He

[17:57] would do segments not of just like me on

[17:58] your show or me on Rogan's show or

[18:00] something. Like on my show like he would

[18:01] do segments of my show and still go this

[18:04] comedian who evidently says he's a

[18:05] libertarian. Like he would never say

[18:06] Dave Smith. It's a very complicated

[18:08] name. Um, but he would never say it. Uh,

[18:10] but so but then the first time he ever

[18:12] said my name was when I called for Trump

[18:13] to be impeached after he launched the

[18:15] war in Iran.

[18:16] >> And then he goes, "Here's Dave Smith

[18:18] calling to a And like all I'm saying is

[18:20] like you look at these Mark Levin and

[18:22] Ben Shapiro and Steven Crowder and so

[18:25] all of them

[18:27] they were all the never Trumpers. Like

[18:29] how stupid does everybody have to be?

[18:31] What do you not remember the National

[18:33] Review piece Never Trump in 2016?

[18:36] >> who were never Trumpers they stayed

[18:37] never Trumpers. They were pro-DeSantis.

[18:40] >> They were they they've

[18:41] >> lost. So, they haven't won. The person

[18:43] that they have wanted to put in office

[18:44] they have not had a winning philosophy.

[18:47] And now all of a sudden they're like

[18:48] trying to convince us that they're MAGA.

[18:50] It's I don't I actually don't understand

[18:52] it. It's kind of confusing.

[18:54] >> Half of them pushed the Russia gate

[18:56] hoax. The These were never Trumpers and

[18:58] they were never Trumpers for a reason.

[19:00] Like people just be like smart enough to

[19:02] see this for 1 second, right? Cuz it's

[19:04] funny when they come at me cuz look I'm

[19:05] not like a I voted for Trump this last

[19:07] time. I sat out the first two. I've

[19:09] always been like I'm but the thing is

[19:11] cuz I'm to the the mega of him. I'm to

[19:14] the non-intervention of him. Like when

[19:15] Donald Trump came out and said, "We're

[19:17] not going to fight these these wars.

[19:19] Iraq, you lied us into Iraq, blah blah

[19:21] blah, but we'll still bomb them and

[19:22] we'll take the oil and we'll do this." I

[19:24] went, "Nope, too much. That's still too

[19:26] much intervention for me." Now, they

[19:28] rejected him because he was saying we

[19:30] shouldn't be so interventionist. I was

[19:32] over here like you should be even more

[19:33] non-interventionist than that. Like I

[19:35] want you to be Ron Paul. And so, for

[19:37] them to sit here and say it's like,

[19:39] "Yeah, dude, you guys all fought him

[19:42] over this over him signaling more in our

[19:46] direction of foreign policy, which is

[19:47] that we don't want to fight all these

[19:49] stupid wars." And it's like, "Yeah,

[19:51] they're trying to use this energy." It's

[19:52] like, "So, what do you guys want to do?

[19:53] You want to run on Mark Levin's

[19:55] platform? You want to run on Jeb Bush's

[19:58] platform?" That's 1% in the polls, man.

[20:01] It's like, so they have to almost rely

[20:03] on running like us,

[20:05] but then, you know, like trying to I

[20:07] don't know, demonize all of us or

[20:09] something.

[20:09] >> It's this infiltration. They have to

[20:11] like pretend, pretend, and then

[20:12] infiltrate, and then try to force like

[20:14] neocon, uh you know, pro-military,

[20:17] pro-intervention, nonstop bombing of

[20:19] some country so we can steal their

[20:20] resources and pretend that there was

[20:22] some moral democratic reason that we

[20:23] were there. Um and people are awake to

[20:26] it. So, I do wonder and it it seems like

[20:28] they're playing checkers. It's Nobody's

[20:30] believing that you're original MAGA. I

[20:32] mean, it's such a weird thing. It's like

[20:33] they're like, "The problem are these

[20:35] people who actually got Trump elected

[20:37] when we were attacking him." Like, "The

[20:38] problem are these people they're so

[20:40] extreme. It's we're right back." It's

[20:42] I'm like it's we're hamsters on a wheel,

[20:44] right? We are just right back to the

[20:45] beginning here and we're the basket of

[20:47] deplorables, okay?

[20:49] Uh let's go. Like who's the And now it's

[20:51] like Trump, I guess, like I said, has

[20:52] joined Never Trump um or is being

[20:55] controlled by the Never Trump movement.

[20:56] It doesn't matter. Our eyes are clear on

[20:59] this. We know what we voted for. We know

[21:01] why we got behind Trump and we know that

[21:02] we're not getting it. We're getting like

[21:04] Bitcoin stuff that he's like pushing and

[21:07] which is like completely crazy and like

[21:09] by the way also

[21:11] you are taking advantage of people that

[21:12] believe in you the most. All of it is

[21:13] just so wrong and it's so icky. We're

[21:16] aware of the deals that Jared is doing

[21:18] while you call us funded by Qatar. The

[21:20] deals that Jared is doing in the Middle

[21:22] East with Qatar and Israel. They think

[21:25] we're this dumb and I'm going wow, like

[21:27] did you always think we were this dumb

[21:29] or actually is it because you're

[21:30] occupied by the never Trumpers and the

[21:33] never Trumpers have been explicit in the

[21:34] fact they think that Trump people are

[21:36] dumb. But we're not this dumb, okay? The

[21:38] mega original mega party is not this

[21:39] dumb. We're aware of what you're doing.

[21:41] We're aware of the infiltration and we

[21:42] are not going to support that.

[21:44] >> Yeah, and the sad thing is as as Tucker

[21:46] said when he was on my show a few days

[21:48] ago, he said, you know, if you really

[21:49] ran on an America first message, it's

[21:52] going to be enormously popular and not

[21:54] just with the right wing. I mean, you

[21:55] could carry half the left wing on that

[21:57] message too. Maybe not all of them, but

[21:58] you could carry a whole lot of

[22:00] independents and and liberals and

[22:02] leftists. If you just said, hey, look,

[22:03] here's the platform. Like a separation,

[22:06] you know, in the same way we had like a

[22:07] separation of church and state or

[22:09] anything like that. You go, a separation

[22:10] of Israel and DC a separation of Tel

[22:12] Aviv and DC is like a great thing to run

[22:15] on that that you could get tens of

[22:17] millions of of Americans to rally

[22:19] around. That's just it. Our goal here is

[22:21] just the platform is we're not going to

[22:23] fight stupid wars. We're not going to

[22:25] have open borders. We're not going to

[22:26] we're going to start spending within our

[22:28] means. Like what what how much tax

[22:30] revenue do we bring in every year?

[22:31] That's what we can spend, okay? We can't

[22:33] borrow and print the money. And I will

[22:35] say and this this will be the last thing

[22:36] I say and then I'll I'll give you the

[22:37] final word. Um, I do see, you know, like

[22:40] as as Momodou Ndiaye wins and you know,

[22:43] Ben Shapiro and people like that are

[22:44] going, when when did you guys spend any

[22:46] time attacking Momodou Ndiaye? You know?

[22:48] And it's like, hey, look, well, look, I

[22:50] would love in a way to argue with a with

[22:52] a communist who wants to be mayor of New

[22:55] York City. You know? It's like the

[22:56] problem is that you guys made the whole

[22:58] argument. You've never visited Israel.

[23:00] And then you go, oh, you picked the

[23:02] argument that he was right on, that he

[23:04] was that he was strongest on was

[23:06] rejecting all of this Oh, sorry.

[23:08] You won't even pledge to be a genocidal

[23:11] demon like us." Like, yeah, okay. Well,

[23:13] that I actually kind of like that about

[23:14] him. But the thing about it is is that

[23:17] if we don't like and this has always

[23:18] been my thing that I've been beating

[23:20] forever. It's like Ron Paul's whole

[23:21] thing was what like it was end the Fed

[23:24] and a gold standard and sound money. And

[23:27] why was it that the most anti-war

[23:28] libertarian was always talking about

[23:30] sound money? Because that's the whole

[23:32] game here. Now, you hear all these

[23:33] Democrats talk about unaffordability.

[23:36] Well, what is unaffordability? What is

[23:38] What is That's currency debasement. It's

[23:41] another way of saying the that the

[23:42] libertarian Ron Paul guys have been

[23:44] saying for all this time. But the reason

[23:46] why Ben Shapiro or Mark Levin or none of

[23:49] them could ever utter those words out of

[23:51] their mouth even though they're supposed

[23:52] to be fiscal conservatives is because

[23:56] you know, you need that type of monetary

[23:58] policy to have a world empire. And

[23:59] that's the only way that you can fight

[24:01] all of Israel's wars if you keep

[24:02] devaluing the currency cuz we can't

[24:04] afford them. The American people aren't

[24:06] going to be taxed enough for it. This

[24:07] Being a Being the world empire is the

[24:10] biggest of big government programs. It's

[24:12] over a trillion dollars a year we spend

[24:14] maintaining the empire. And so, while

[24:17] while Donald Trump is stuck doing all of

[24:19] this overseas,

[24:22] he's had to print a ton of money in this

[24:24] first year. And so, what's happened with

[24:25] prices? They've just gone up even more,

[24:27] even more than from the Biden years. And

[24:29] so, anyway, the point is like we really

[24:31] are in a a moment here where it's like,

[24:33] "Do you guys want the socialists to win

[24:36] or do you want to keep fighting wars for

[24:38] Israel?" Or like

[24:40] you get both of those, right? Like you

[24:42] got your choice is preserve liberty in

[24:44] the United States of America or fight

[24:46] Israel's wars.

[24:48] >> Right. That's exactly right. And and I

[24:50] just say to people what you can do is

[24:52] you can control your own household. Like

[24:53] I would never allow my son to sign up

[24:55] for the military when it's the decision

[24:56] you're made in Tel Aviv of whether or

[24:57] not they're going to die. So, all this

[24:59] raw raw pro-American No, it's not hasn't

[25:01] been pro-American in a very long time.

[25:02] We see that. We saw that recently. And

[25:04] the reality is is they need America

[25:06] because they don't have enough bodies.

[25:07] They have enough corruption. They have

[25:08] enough evil. They don't have enough

[25:10] bodies. And this is why they're trying

[25:11] to commit you to their cause

[25:12] ideologically because you are the slaves

[25:14] are supposed to go over and die. Um you

[25:16] know, when they drop bombs and say that

[25:18] they're spreading democracy, but they're

[25:19] actually in Afghanistan having people

[25:21] guard the poppy seeds so that they can

[25:23] cause the opioid crisis, right? Like

[25:25] you're fighting for the Sacklers, the

[25:26] Sackler family. You're not fighting uh

[25:28] because you're up against the Taliban.

[25:30] All of that's nonsense. And people are

[25:32] waking up to that. Uh another way and

[25:34] this is what I say all the time on my

[25:35] podcast, pull your kids out of the out

[25:37] of out of their schools. Okay, home

[25:38] school. They get so much power by being

[25:40] able to infiltrate their minds when

[25:42] they're young. That's why they're

[25:43] obsessed with the youth generation. And

[25:45] guess what? That's already winning.

[25:46] There's a reason why they now want to

[25:47] pass home school laws. They're trying to

[25:49] demonize home schoolers is because COVID

[25:51] woke parents up to like, "Whoa, why do I

[25:53] have not even control over my kids'

[25:55] body? Forget the mind. I don't even have

[25:56] control over my child's body?" And um

[25:59] the there's no upside. I mean, this is

[26:01] what I

[26:01] Why are you sending your kids to

[26:02] university? For what reason? Uh it's to

[26:04] plug them into that that same monetary

[26:06] system where they start their lives like

[26:08] I did $150,000

[26:10] into debt uh because they thought that

[26:12] they had to go to college. This is all

[26:14] the matrix. Attack it where you can in

[26:16] your own household. Then and they don't

[26:19] even know what to do. They're

[26:19] scrambling. You hear it now. They've

[26:21] never been more voracious in their

[26:23] demands for cancellation. And it's

[26:25] because

[26:26] um an animal backed into a corner fights

[26:27] the hardest. Keep talking about Israel.

[26:30] Keep talking about Tel Aviv. Keep

[26:31] talking up Bibi Netanyahu. Keep talking

[26:33] about home schooling. Keep talking about

[26:35] the military industrial complex. And we

[26:37] will win. They are at the beginning of

[26:40] the end of their domination over

[26:42] American minds.

[26:58] >> I