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Ana Kasparian Exposes the Pro-Israel Media Blackout on Epstein Files and America's Weakened Military
Ana Kasparian speaks candidly about the coordinated effort by pro-Israel media figures to suppress the Epstein files, the dangerous depletion of America's military capabilities, and the propaganda machine that convinced Americans to support foreign wars. She shares her experience being fired for calling out an IDF propagandist, reveals how attackers went after her husband to silence her, and explains why both left and right are finally waking up to how foreign policy priorities have overtaken American interests. Kasparian also discusses Meghan McCain's privileged ignorance, the brainwashing tactics used since childhood, and why Israel's border expansion continues to create refugee crises that fuel migration.
The Obvious Epstein Cover-Up
When every pro-Israel media figure comes out at the same time and basically says there's no big deal with the Epstein files and they shouldn't be released, they're giving it away. The coordination is too obvious. Americans are watching as these figures, who once pretended to care about justice and protecting children, suddenly have no interest in transparency when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein.
This brazen propaganda reveals something deeper: a media apparatus that prioritizes protecting certain interests over truth. The question isn't whether the propaganda has gotten worse, but whether Americans are simply more awake now because of diversified independent media. People are breaking out of their algorithmic bubbles, making it harder to lie to them. The propaganda muscle has atrophied.
America's Military Capability Crisis
The United States has depleted 80% of its missile interceptors because of military aid given to Israel and Ukraine, and continued use of interceptors in the war against Iran. This isn't fearmongering or manufacturing consent for new wars. These are the facts: America's military capability is weakened.
The manufacturing capacity doesn't exist like it once did. Iran can build $5,000 drones quickly. America has an entire corrupt system where defense contractors operate without the industrial base and manufacturing capacity to build weapons as quickly as needed. Just because billions get spent on the Pentagon's defense budget doesn't mean Americans are getting their money's worth.
The money gets sent overseas. On top of that, Americans spend more than necessary on weaponry purchased from private defense contractors. Those are the kickbacks. That's the entire neocon class. That's the Meghan McCains of the world who have accomplished absolutely nothing in their lives but sit there and advocate for war because their trust funds need to grow, then have the audacity to lecture everyone else.
Meghan McCain's Privileged Ignorance
Meghan McCain represents everything wrong with the neocon class. She's never met a woman in the media space or political space who's less intellectually curious. During the Obama administration, she was supposed to discuss Obama's expansion of drone use in the Middle East on her show Take Part Live. All she had to do was read one article to understand the story. She couldn't be bothered. She had no interest at all.
Even on The View, she had nothing to add that was intellectual, nothing that looked like she had studied. She comes across like she had a butler who did her homework. She reads very few books. Yet she has this attitude, this sense of arrogance. "My daddy, my daddy, my daddy." She has no idea what the general viewpoint is of her father. She thinks her dad is some very well-liked politician. On the right or the left, her father was neither well-liked nor respected. People chose respectful silence when he passed away.
The moment that truly revealed who she is was when she used her father's funeral to dunk on Trump. During her speech, she said her dad would say this country was always great, a reference to Trump's "Make America Great Again." What kind of life do you have if you waste one sentence, one breath toward a political enemy at your father's funeral? It's crass. It's the arrogance that comes when you've worked for nothing in your life, had everything handed to you, and have no moral principle outside of more war.
The Propaganda of Dehumanization
The way these people speak when they call concerned citizens evil or psychopathic for worrying about innocent people getting killed reveals everything. At the heart of it is finding it immoral when civilians are targeted and killed, just like on October 7th. Anyone who values human life finds it immoral when civilians are targeted for any reason. Anytime they are, the person or group doing the targeting is in the wrong. Period.
When there are upward of 75,000 people killed in Gaza and you mention that to an Israel-first advocate or a Zionist and they respond immediately by saying "what about October 7th," what that communicates is they do have a problem with civilian lives being lost on a particular side, but civilian lives mean nothing to them otherwise. At first it seemed like just Palestinian lives didn't matter to them, but no—human life doesn't matter to them at all unless it's a Jewish Zionist. If you're a Jewish person like Dave Smith but you're not a Zionist, they couldn't care less about you either.
This is immoral. But they turn around and try to make the people speaking out look like the immoral ones.
The Brainwashing Machine
Understanding the brainwashing within the Jewish population is critical. This is the whole reason they started the program of Birthright. The ADL got caught on a private call saying they need to come up with something because they're losing Gen Z, something like what they did when they established Birthright. Max Blumenthal has done incredible work because he went on Birthright and spoke about that experience—how they're brainwashing people so young.
Everyone is subject to brainwashing. The most important lesson is understanding how it happens. Watching Holocaust movies, what you learn in the classroom, who is presented as the victim, who you have to defend, who is being oppressed—all of this creates a trigger mechanism buried within from childhood. People don't realize it because they're just taking in media, listening to teachers. Then October 7th happens and suddenly all that programming activates: remember all that stuff, this is what they're going to do next, think about what happened, you don't want another Holocaust.
It's priming people to be accepting of something that goes against their core principles. For Jewish Americans, they get that programming 20 times worse. Stories about grandparents, temple, synagogue—all those presets activate. But it went too far and a lot of them snapped out of it. Now Jewish people send emails saying they don't know why they're being told they have to defend Jeffrey Epstein or Benjamin Netanyahu.
When the Propaganda Becomes Too Obvious
The entire strategy of The Daily Wire trying to destroy Candace Owens actually woke a lot of people up. People saw that Candace Owens was going around saying "Judeo-Christian," doing all the things, working at PragerU. Then suddenly overnight she became an anti-Semite, Adolf Hitler, according to them, despite working with Ben Shapiro and Dennis Prager. They expected people to believe she just fell and bumped her head and now she's Adolf Hitler.
The whiplash is too fast. People might have believed it with Nick Fuentes early on, but then they move on to Candace Owens, then Tucker Carlson bumped his head and became Adolf Hitler too. It becomes way too much. People go back and really see what's happening.
Nick Fuentes's rhetoric is nowhere close to Tucker Carlson's rhetoric, yet they're lumped together in the same category, all attacked in the same way. This isn't really about hatred toward Jewish people, which is immoral, just like hatred toward Muslims or Christians. Hating any group of people simply based on their identity is wrong.
The Muslim Dehumanization Campaign
The dehumanization of Muslims was seen in the media across the board, and that brainwashing worked for a really long time. It convinced Americans to support wars they shouldn't have supported. Going back to those presets from youth: 9/11. It was so raw, so scary. The way they made students stand up at 9:11 every day for a moment of silence for what the Muslims did. That programming made a generation think Muslims are just despicable, that it's a token of education to understand this. It didn't register as Islamophobia at the time.
The unfair attacks against Muslims were pervasive. Different Muslim beliefs were lumped together. Muslims were categorized as bad, and this was used as justification to enrich defense contractors who profit off war. Right now there's a town in Alabama where they make rockets and military weaponry, and it's booming because of the war against Iran. Workers there are able to compartmentalize the economic boom they're experiencing from what it's feeding into.
When people's livelihoods get wrapped up in questions of peace and war, when the media apparatus becomes part of propaganda campaigns to trick Americans into supporting things that work against their own interests, that's when things become dangerous. But all of that started to get chipped away at by independent media and people being willing to honestly critique their own side.
The Attacks on Family Members
The desperation is showing. They're going after people's husbands, people's lawyers. They will try to harass anyone connected to dissenting voices. Ana Kasparian got fired from a job she loved—doing investigative reporting on California-based stories—because one board member didn't like her commentary. She called Jonathan Conricus, an IDF propagandist who appears on Piers Morgan's show, a terrorist. That's what got her fired.
But that's not a news organization if they're going to censor people on what they can and can't say about what's happening in the Middle East. Once they realized taking things away wasn't working, once they realized TYT wasn't going to fire her, they moved on to collective punishment. They went after her family, her husband, a PE teacher who isn't political.
After they went after him the second time, he suddenly started asking questions about what's happening in Gaza, listening to the show regularly. Their efforts in attacking people, intimidating people, censoring people is so counterproductive, but they're too stupid to realize it. They're literally attacking Zionists to try to hurt people. Laura Loomer went after lawyers, effectively promoting BDS—boycott, divest, and sanction—which she claims to oppose.
There's no thought process. It's just attack, attack, attack. But there's a desperation right now that feels very fragile.
Trump's Unhinged Tweets
The radical nature of Trump's tweets right now are unhinged. They used to be pithy, one sentence, hitting at some modicum of truth like "only Rosie O'Donnell." That was funny. This is not that. This is the rantings of someone being instructed to attack people who don't support Israel.
What are we getting close to? That's the question. What are we getting close to if they don't feel like they're in control right now? They feel like an animal backed into a corner that's fighting and lashing out. It's scary because they are in control of the levers of power. But at the same time, they are no longer in control of the narrative.
Americans Are Waking Up
Americans are waking up to just how much the government has been infiltrated by people who are much more concerned with foreign policy that benefits Israel above and beyond what's better for the American people. This war against Iran doesn't benefit Americans in any way, shape, or form. The country went into it with no strategy, no plan, no support from the people.
Trump never even thought he needed to make his case to the American people. The country went into an incredibly unpopular war. He didn't even consider that Iran would take control of the Strait of Hormuz, thus creating economic pain for the globe. Longtime allies are furious. Germany recently came out with strong words against the United States. India has been irritated because of Trump's Liberation Day tariffs, which seemed ham-handed.
Targeted tariffs can work in bringing jobs back to the United States, but the way he did it made a lot of enemies. Going back to the issue of the military being weakened because so many weapons have been given away, so many weapons used, 80% of missile interceptors depleted—for the first time, America is not safe.
But what gives hope is knowing that people on the left and the right are waking up to it. That provides relief. Without that, the situation would be completely hopeless. But the people are waking up. That's why the individuals backed into a corner don't have control of the narrative. That's why they're lashing out and attacking family members. But it's only helping the cause when they do that because people see it and find it disgusting.
Israel's Genocide and Border Expansion
Israel carried out a genocide and continues to carry out a genocide in Gaza. They were occupying 53% of the territory. Now they're occupying 64%. Just recently they quietly redrew the map of the area of Gaza they're going to occupy, from 53% to 64%. Where are all those Palestinians going to go? How many refugee crises have been experienced because Israel wants to pursue its border expansion project?
When people like Tommy Robinson whine about the Islamification of the UK and complain that Muslims are so bad and dangerous while being supportive of Israel—unless they wake up and tell the truth about what's actually happening and what's causing these mass migration events, they should shut up. Where do they think these migrants are coming from? Do they think they wanted to be there, or are they being forced out of their homes?
They can't connect the dots. "Oh, we have a Muslim problem." No, there's an Israel neverending war problem. These people have to go somewhere if their land is just going to be taken. Look at Lebanon now. Israel says they're just going to take southern Lebanon. Then they began evacuating villages north of the Latani River, meaning it's not just southern Lebanon.
Understanding Hezbollah and Resistance
When people fearmonger about groups like Hezbollah, which is supported by Iran, they need to understand why Hezbollah exists in the first place. Hezbollah formed in the 1980s after Israel invaded southern Lebanon.
Ask red-blooded Americans right now: if Mexico invaded one of the southern border states, would Americans just sit back and take it, or would there be a resistance group? America has a military and government that would prevent that from happening. But let's say a foreign country turned the government into a puppet and that government cared less about protecting the American people and territory—which is the case in Lebanon. There would be a resistance group. Of course there would be.
They took their homes. People just woke up one day and were told, "I don't care if you've lived here for centuries. You just have to go. We're now giving your land away," and they're not going to get any money. At gunpoint, they just have to leave their houses.
It's strange that people don't understand that if they keep empowering something that immoral, something that believes genocide is their right, their birthright to mass murder children, something that doesn't see others as having a human soul—how do they not comprehend that that chicken will eventually come home to roost?
Video Transcript
When every pro-Israel media figure comes
out at the same time and basically says,
"Oh, there's no big deal with the
Epstein files. They shouldn't be
released." You're giving it away. Like,
you're giving it away. Like, you guys
are too obvious. When you consider the
fact that we have depleted 80% of our
missile interceptors uh because we've uh
given military aid to Israel, Ukraine,
we're currently using interceptors, you
know, in this war against Iran. I'm
worried about our national security. Our
national security like and I'm not one
of these like woo I'm going to scare
everybody. I'm not a scaremonger and I
never bought into national security
threats or that narrative from the
government when it came to manufacturing
consent for wars that we got involved
in. But right now when you just look at
the facts, our military capability is
weakened. We don't have the
manufacturing capacity that Iran has for
instance. Like they build $5,000 drones
real quick. We have an entire corrupt
system where these defense contractors,
first of all, we don't have like the
industrial base and the manufacturing
capacity to build these weapons as
quickly as we would need. Okay. And then
on top of that, just because we're
spending an arm and a leg on our
Pentagon on our defense budget doesn't
mean that we're getting our money's
worth.
>> No, we're sending it overseas.
>> We're sending it overseas. And on top of
that, we're spending more than we need
to on the weaponry that we purchase, the
the defense capabilities we purchase
from these private that's the kickbacks.
That's the entire neocon class. Exactly.
And that's the Megan McCain's of the
world who sit up there have accomplished
absolutely nothing in their lives, but
just sit up there and go war because my
trust fund needs to grow. Um, and have
the audacity to lecture us.
>> I have a funny story about me. I I just
I am amazed that she has the audacity to
ever speak but will like my daddy that's
her whole position in life. My daddy has
never done
>> literally anything say my daddy.
>> I've never met a woman in the media
space or political space who's
less intellectually curious.
She's so I mean she used to host a show
called Take Part Live and at this time
she and I knew each other and so I would
fill in when one of the hosts was out
but we interacted and I remember one
time they called me in to be a guest on
the panel and they were going to talk
about this is during the Obama
administration they were going to talk
about Obama's expansion of drone use in
you know the Middle East and a lot of
innocent people were getting killed you
know a lot of collateral damage and
people were very crit critical about
that and so she just had to read an
article so she would know what the story
is as we talk about on the show. She
couldn't be bothered to read the
article. She had no interest at all. I'm
like why are you even in this space?
What are you doing?
>> You you could see that even when she was
on the view totally she just had nothing
to add that was intellectual that looked
like she maybe studied. She she she just
comes across like they had a butler who
did her homework. Do you know what I
mean? And that she's that she reads very
few books. There's just something about
her and yet she has this attitude and
this sense of this arrogance. Well, my
daddy, my daddy, my daddy and has no
idea what the general viewpoint is of
her father like too that's also
stunning. It's like she thinks like her
dad is some like very well-liked
politician. No, actually on the right or
or on the left is your father was your
father very well-liked or is he very
respected? And I think people chose this
sort of uh respectful silence obviously
when he pa passed away. And for me a
moment where I really saw what she was
was when she used her father's funeral
to dunk on Trump. Like
>> I don't remember that.
>> Oh gosh. Her the speech. Yeah. My my my
dad would say that this country was
always great because you know Trump said
make America great again.
>> That's right. I do remember that now.
>> And I just thought to myself, what is
your life?
>> Like do you have a real life? If you
think that I would waste one sentence,
one breath towards an enemy when my
father at the funeral at the funeral,
it's like I like are you kidding me?
You're trying to dunk a political it's
just it was to me so crass and so um
yeah it it's the arrogance that comes
that goes with it when we know you've
worked for nothing in your life and you
have had everything handed to you and
you actually don't have any moral
principle outside of more war, more war,
more war. Yeah. Um, and the amount of
people who are dying, it it's the way
these people speak to us. And I'm saying
left and right. The way they speak to us
when they call us evil, psychopathic,
>> when we're worried about innocent people
getting killed like that, at the heart
of it is that we find it immoral just
like I did on October 7th. I find it
immoral when civilians are targeted and
killed. Mhm.
>> So, I was not ever one of those people
who cheered on what happened on October
7th. Never. I never would. That goes
against who I am as a human being. I
value human life and I don't think
civilians should be targeted for any
reason. Anytime they are, the person
doing the targeting, the group doing the
targeting is in the wrong. Period.
>> That's it. So when you now have upward
of 75,000 people killed in Gaza and you
mention that to a Israel first or or a
Zionist and they respond to you
immediately by saying what about October
7th, what that communicates to me is you
do have a problem with civilian lives
being lost on a particular side,
>> but civilian lives mean nothing to you.
At first I thought when it comes to the
Palestinians, but no, I feel like human
life doesn't matter to them at all
unless we're talking about
>> a Jewish Zionist because if you're a
Jewish person, like Dave Smith, for
instance,
>> they'll kill you, too. They could care
less.
>> But you're not a Zionist. Oh, they could
they couldn't care less. You're right.
They could not care less. And I just
find that so immoral. But they turn
around and they try to make us look like
we're the immoral ones that because we
have a problem and we're speaking out
about this.
>> That's exactly right. And you you
understand even within the Jewish
population and that's why I've done so
so much I've made such an effort over
the last year to wake up Jewish
Americans to this right because I view
them as you were brainwashed. This is
what you think. I mean this is the whole
reason they started the program of
Birthright. And when the ADL guy got
caught uh like on a private call saying
that like we need to kind of come up
with something. We're losing Gen Z. We
got to do like we did when we
established that program for Birthright.
Um and this is why Max Blumenthal has
done such incredible work because he
went on birthright and he spoke about
but that experience they're brainwashing
them so young right we are all subject
to brainwashing that is the most
important thing that I think I have come
out of learning as like how did I get
brainwashed I thought the same thing I
was watching the Holocaust movies all of
that is a part of your growing up your
brainwashing experience what you're
learning in the classroom you're who is
the victim you know and who do you have
to defend who is being oppressed and so
there's this sort of trigger mechanism
that is within all of us. It's b buried
within us from the time that we're kids
and we don't realize it because we're
just taking in so much media. We're
taking in we're listening to our
teachers and then we're like October 7th
happens and then they go remember all
that stuff like this is now you have to
understand what they're going to do
next. Think about what happened. You
don't want another Holocaust.
>> It's like priming you to be accepting of
something that just goes against your
core principles.
>> And and for Jewish Americans, too, so
you can understand why they reacted the
way that they did right away. Of course,
they're going to get that 20 times worse
is going to be your stories about your
grandma and your book, like you go to
temple, you go to, you know, I mean, you
go, you go to synagogue and you're going
to have those presets and then it went
too far and a lot of them snapped out of
it. And now I get Jewish people emailing
me being like, I don't know what this
is. I don't know why I'm being told I
have to defend Jeffrey Epste. I don't
know why I'm being told I have to defend
BB Netany and Yahoo. So, can we just
address how brazenly obvious
like, okay, when every pro-Israel media
figure comes out at the same time and
basically says, "Oh, there's no big deal
with the Epstein files. They shouldn't
be released."
>> You're giving it away. Like, you're
giving it away. Like, you guys are too
obvious. And and what I'm wondering is
was the propaganda always this bad or is
it that we're just a lot more awake now
because there's diversified independent
media. People are kind of breaking out
of their bubble so it's harder to lie to
us. So they're like propaganda muscle
has atrophied to some extent.
>> So well said. I think it's the latter.
Absolutely. I think we are more awake
than we've ever been. There's
independent media. Uh, and it's also
like you said earlier, they can't help
themselves. So, the entire strategy of
the Daily Wire, try to destroy me
actually woke a lot of people up. It's
like, my goodness, Candace was going
around Judeo-Christian doing all the
things. She worked at Prager. You want
me to believe that overnight Candace
Owens became an anti-semite to Adolf
Hitler. She was working with uh, you
know, Ben Shapiro and Marishia Strait
and Dennis Prager. And they're like,
"Yeah, no. It's it's crazy how it
happened. She fell and bumped her head
and now she's Adolf Hitler." And that
it's it's the whiplash. It's too fast.
People go, "Okay, you had me." Maybe you
had me at Nick Fuentes. You know, like
people go, "Okay, he was done early.
He's 18. We didn't know who he was." But
they just start moving and then you're
going, "It's Candace Owens. Oh no,
Tucker Carlson bumped his head and
became Adolf Hitler." It's it's becomes
way too And then you go, "Okay, let me
go back and really see what's happening
here."
>> Totally. Because I mean, look, Nick
Fuentes's rhetoric is nowhere close to
Tucker Carlson's rhetoric. Not nowhere
close to it.
>> They're all in the same books,
>> right? but they're lumped together. And
to me, this isn't really about hatred
toward Jewish people, which I find
immoral, just like I would find hatred
toward Muslims or hatred toward
Christians. Like, hating any group of
people simply based on their identity is
wrong. I've always been against that.
Yeah.
>> But um but yeah, I just it just seems
like I forgot where I was going with
that. Yeah. A lot of people I like I
think they were just kind of part of
this algorithmic bubble where they're
only exposed to one thing. And when it
came to the Muslim population, I think
that the dehumanization
>> was seen in the media across the board.
And that brainwashing worked for a
really long time. I mean, it definitely
convinced Americans to support wars that
we shouldn't have supported.
>> Going back to those presets when we're
in our youth, 9/11.
>> Yep.
>> It was so raw. It was so scary. They the
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day the time in school moment of silence
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>> I I remember that. I remember that so
well. I remember the unfair attacks
against Muslims, by the way. I mean,
there are different Muslim beliefs like
sex and whatever, but everything was
just lumped together. Muslims bad and
this is going to be used as a
justification for us to enrich defense
contractors. They profit off war right
now. You know, there's a town in Alabama
where they make um rockets and military
weaponry and it's booming all of a
sudden because of the war against Iran.
And um it's funny listening to an
interview of like one of the workers
there because
they're able to like compartmentalize
the economic boom they're experiencing
from what it's feeding into. Mhm.
>> And so when you think about how people's
livelihoods get wrapped up into
questions of peace and war, when you
consider the fact that our our media
apparatus, especially when it comes to
legacy media or corporate media, is very
much part of the propaganda campaigns
to,
in my opinion, just trick Americans into
supporting things that actually work
against their own interests. All of that
stuff started to kind of get chipped
away at by independent media
>> and people being willing to
honestly critique their own side. There
aren't a lot of people in the media who
are willing to do that. Just a handful
that I can think of. But I think that
woke a lot of people up. I really did. I
I really do think it did.
>> And the whiplash of, oh, Tucker Carlson
was fine for Fox News and CNN and
everything. And then all of a sudden,
no, Tucker Carlson very very bad. You
can't listen. And it's but we're
starting to notice this pattern that
it's the same issue that suddenly gets
these people who are welcomed, loved by
the mainstream, adored by the
mainstream, and then suddenly thrust to
the side and having not just their
livelihoods impacted, but also our
families. I was watching this attack
>> on your husband, like my husband's being
attacked, your husband's being attacked.
Yep.
>> And by the way, kudos for you for just
coming back. Thank you. Yes, it is my
husband. He's hot. I'm glad you found
him.
>> I mean,
>> right. He's hot. Thank you. But what
actually sits at the center of that?
Let's now try to get and harass Anna
Kasparian's husband. What Why do you
think that that became now their their
prime motivator?
>> Well, because
I'm I don't want to say I'm unbreakable,
but I am kind of unbreakable. Like, I'm
the kind of person who does not respond
well to others telling me what I can and
can't think or what I can and can't say.
So, I might fall prey to brainwashing
and propaganda. We're all susceptible to
that. However, when you're straight up
telling me you're not allowed to think
that, you're not allowed to say that,
>> I just get very irritable and I double
down. It's like not the way to persuade
me to think otherwise, right? And so,
>> I mean, they've done some damage to me
financially. I got fired from a job that
I really like a side job where I was
doing investigative reporting um on
California based stories because there's
a lot going down in California that I
think people need to be aware about uh
to make smarter decisions when they
vote. Um so even though that was one of
the more difficult jobs like I was
writing features like 2,000word pieces
that were like original reporting it was
hard it was very timeconuming but I
loved that job so much uh they they they
took it from me. Um, I guess there was
one board member at the company that uh
didn't like my commentary. I called uh
Jonathan Kenriquez who's a IDF
propagandist. He's usually on like
Pierce Morgan's show and whatever. I was
on with him and I called him a terrorist
because he's a terrorist and um that was
it. Like that was what got me fired.
Whatever. But I'll take it. I I want to
be free. I don't want to work for some
This is not a news organization if you
guys are going to censor people uh on
what they can and can't say on what's
going down in the Middle East right now.
So, okay, fine. I'm You took that from
me. But once they realize that like
taking things away from me wasn't
working, once they realize like TYT is
not going to fire her, they're like,
"Okay, what else can we do?" And they
immediately move on to collective
punishment. They are big believers in
the ideology of collective punishment.
So, we're going to go after her family.
We're going to go after her husband
who's a freaking PE teacher who is not
political. By the way, after they did go
after him, this is the second time.
First time they did it, suddenly my
husband's asking me questions about
what's happening in Gaza. Suddenly he's
he's listening to my show. He's and I'm
like, "Oh, you never you know, cuz he's
not a political person at all." I'm
like, "Why are you asking me questions
suddenly? Why are you listening to the
show regularly?" He's like, "Cuz they
made me want to know what's going on."
>> Exactly.
>> You know what I'm saying? So like their
efforts in attacking people,
intimidating people, censoring people is
so counterproductive, but they're too
stupid to realize it. They are quite
literally attacking Zionists. They will
attack to try to hurt me. They will
attack Zionists. Like there was this
whole thread where Laura Loomer was
going after like my lawyers and she's
like this. Okay.
>> So are you BDS now? Like you know what I
mean? Are you saying like that I should
not work in any capacity with Zionist?
That that's literally boycott, divest,
and sanction. So I'm turning Zionists
into promoters of BDS which is
incredible. They don't even like I said
there's no thought process. It's just
attack attack attack. It's like I have
to spend money with a lawyer. Okay,
there are millions of lawyers. They're
all over. They're a dime a dozen over
here. Uh if you want to attack a lawyer
for getting paid, you're doing the work
of actually what people think people
boycott divest um away from Zionists in
general. And so I'm like, okay, this is
not a big deal to me. But there is a
there is a desperation. Uh there's
something right now that feels very
fragile.
>> They're getting so increasingly
desperate. Like we're going after
people's husbands. We're going after
people's lawyers. We will try to just
harass you and it's obviously not
working at all. I'm like you. I just dig
my feet in even more and I'm like, let's
suit up for battle. Let's do this thing.
I am not going to be broken by this. You
guys have tried so much.
>> But right now, I mean, the radical
nature of Trump's tweets right now,
they're unhinged. And I used to enjoy,
they used to be piffy, one sentence, and
hit at some modicum of truth like only
Rosie O'Donnell. That's just funny to
people cuz it's like he's saying
basically Rosie O'Donnell. This is not
that. This is like the rantings of a
madman. I don't have time to read all of
this and at its core it's just he's
being instructed to attack people who
don't support Israel.
>> It's crazy. It's absolutely insane.
>> What are we getting close to?
>> Yeah,
>> that's my question. What are we getting
close to if they don't feel like they're
in control right now? They feel like an
animal backed into a corner that's
fighting and just lashing. Well, it's
funny because they are in control of the
levers of power, right? And that's
definitely scary. I mean, don't get me
wrong. I don't want to minimize that.
But at the same time, they are no longer
in control of the narrative. And
Americans are waking up to just how much
our government has been, I mean, for
lack of a better word, infiltrated by
people who uh are much more concerned
with foreign policy that benefits Israel
above and beyond, you know, what's
better for the American people. This war
against Iran doesn't benefit us in any
way, shape, or form. And we went into it
with no strategy, no plan,
>> no support for the people.
>> Exactly. no support for I mean Trump
never even thought he needed to make his
case to the American people. So we went
into it with it being an incredibly
unpopular war. The fact that he didn't
even consider that Iran would take
control of the straight of Hormuse thus
creating a lot of economic pain for the
globe. Like think about all all of our
allies right now longtime allies who are
so furious with us. You know Germany
recently came out and had some you know
strong words against the United States.
Um, India has been irritated with us
because of first Trump's uh, Liberation
Day tariffs, which also seemed pretty
ham-handed. And I'm saying that as
someone who's supportive of targeted
tariffs and think, you know, they can
work in bringing some jobs back to the
United States. But the way he did it
made a lot of enemies. Again, I go back
to the issue of our, you know, military
being weakened because we've given so
many weapons away. We've used so many
weapons and we've depleted 80% of our,
uh, missile interceptors. I just feel
for the first time that we are not safe.
But the thing that gives me a little bit
of relief is knowing that
people on the left and the right are
waking up to it. You know, like that
gives me hope. If if it weren't for
that, honestly, I would definitely be
100% blackpilled. I would be a total
doomer and I would see no hope for the
future. But the people are waking up,
>> right? And so the fact that the
individuals you're referring to who are
backed into a corner don't have control
of the narrative, that's why they're
backed into the corner and they don't
know what to do. So they're lashing out
and attacking family members, but it's
only helping our cause when they do that
because people see it and they're just
like, "Ew, this is disgusting behavior.
Why are you going after a PE teacher who
never said anything about Israel at
all?" You know, and anything I've said
about Israel is not anti-Semitic. Israel
carried out a genocide, continues to
carry out a genocide in Gaza. uh they
were occupying 53% of the territory. Now
they're occupying 64%. Just last night I
read an article about how they quietly
redrrew the map of the area of Gaza that
they're going to occupy. So from 53% to
64%. Where are all those Palestinians
going to go? How many uh refugee crises
have we experienced because Israel wants
to pursue its border expansion project?
Mhm.
>> And so when I hear people like that
Tommy Robinson guy whining about like,
"Oh, the Islamification of the UK, these
Muslims are so bad and so dangerous, you
are supportive of Israel. So unless you
wake up and tell the truth about what's
actually happening and what's causing
these mass migration events, how about
you shut up?"
>> I always say that. I'm like, "And where
do you think these migrants are coming
from? Do you think they wanted to be
here or are they being forced out of
their homes?" And so they don't they
can't connect the dot there. Yeah. It's,
oh, we have a Muslim problem, but no, we
actually we have an Israel neverending
war problem.
>> Exactly.
>> And it's then, of course, these people
have to go somewhere if we're just going
to take their land.
>> Look at Lebanon now.
>> Yeah.
>> They're like, "Yeah, we're just going to
take southern Lebanon." And then, by the
way, they've begun evacuating villages
north of the Latani River, meaning, "Oh,
no, it's not just southern Lebanon." And
so when people fearmonger about groups
like Hezbollah, for instance, which is
supported by Iran, you got to understand
why Hezbollah exists in the first place.
Hezbollah formed in the 1980s after
Israel invaded southern Lebanon.
>> So like, let me ask our red-blooded
Americans right now, if Mexico invaded,
you know, one of our southern border
countries uh states,
>> are we just going to sit back and take
it or is there going to be a resistance
group? right now. We have a military. We
have a government that would prevent
that from happening. But let's say uh a
foreign country uh turned our government
into a puppet of theirs and they cared
less about protecting the American
people and our territory. Uh which I
think is the case in Lebanon. Um there
would be a resistance group.
>> Of course there would be.
>> Yeah. Yeah. I always said to people,
it's like they took their homes. They
just woke up one day and said, "I don't
care if you've lived here for centuries.
You just got to go. We're now giving
your land." and you're not going to get
any money. Like you're at gunpoint. You
just got to leave your house.
>> I can't imagine.
>> It's weird to me that people don't
understand that if you keep empowering
something that is that immoral, right?
Something that believes that genocide is
their right,
>> that it's their birthright to mass
murder children who don't see you as
having a human soul. How do you not
comprehend that that chicken will
eventually come home to roost?
>> 100%.