Charlie Kirk Faces Cambridge Students on Trump Foreign Policy and Middle East Conflicts

[00:00] Charlie Kirk. We played a clip of

[00:01] Charlie Kirk last week. He visited

[00:06] Cambridge in the UK. I think there's

[00:09] some type of exchange program where you

[00:10] can have yourself humiliated by um uh

[00:13] university students in Cambridge and

[00:16] Charlie signed up for it. I think they

[00:18] cover the cost of your flight and that's

[00:20] probably why he did it. He wanted to see

[00:24] uh the English

[00:26] countryside and the only cost was that

[00:29] he would get repeatedly humiliated

[00:32] um on the internet. I think it's a new

[00:34] program Cambridge has trying to launch

[00:36] some of their students into the

[00:37] influencer category by letting them dunk

[00:39] repeatedly on sort of conservatives. And

[00:41] so uh on uh I can't remember what day it

[00:44] was last week, we played what was the

[00:46] name of the woman? It was Tilly at

[00:48] Blonde Practis on Tik Tok and she was

[00:51] exceptional.

[00:52] She really uh embarrassed uh Charlie

[00:56] Kirk across the board in

[01:00] um Charlie Kirk's attempt to impose his

[01:04] uh fundamentalist vision of of how women

[01:07] should be essentially in the kitchen in

[01:11] in society pregnant and how would they

[01:13] make them happier? It would make them

[01:15] happier. He Charlie knows how to make

[01:18] all women happier. He was using the

[01:20] smile uh to population ratio, the very

[01:24] scientific formulation to compare us to

[01:26] nations in the continent of Africa and

[01:28] was sort of spiraliness. He was trying

[01:30] to determine whether Rwanda was Muslim

[01:32] or not before he knew how to attack it.

[01:34] He is the he tried the Islamophobia but

[01:37] she was a little too prepared. Um which

[01:39] one is this? Is this the foreign policy?

[01:41] Okay. Um, here is uh where Charlie wades

[01:44] into foreign policy with uh one of these

[01:48] uh Cambridge

[01:50] [Applause]

[01:57] students. Um good evening, Mr. Kirk. Um

[02:00] you've obviously devoted a lot of your

[02:02] life to electing, keeping in power

[02:03] Donald Trump, and you did so partly

[02:05] because you said Trump would put

[02:06] Americans first and take them out of

[02:08] foreign conflicts. Should we see how uh

[02:10] that is going at the moment? Currently,

[02:12] Trump has just accepted a $400 million

[02:15] debt from Qatar, which we're assured is

[02:17] perfectly above board. Billions in arms

[02:19] are going to Saudi Arabia, which they're

[02:21] using to bomb and starve Yemeni

[02:22] children. Not sure how that's in the

[02:24] interest of the United States, but it

[02:25] might be in the interest of the $5.5

[02:28] billion deal his failed sons are

[02:30] receiving. At the same time, this great

[02:32] president of peace has green lit mass

[02:34] killings, not just in Yemen, but in

[02:36] Gaza, where he green lit an invasion

[02:38] called Operation Gideon's Chariot with

[02:41] the express aim of wiping out the Gazan

[02:43] population. You promised to put America

[02:45] first. Haven't you and your ilk sold

[02:47] America

[02:53] [Applause]

[02:58] out? No.

[03:00] Well, I'm glad you have great

[03:02] intellectual substance and can answer

[03:04] because it's all the culture wars to

[03:06] you, isn't it? The second someone

[03:08] actually tells you what you're doing.

[03:09] Would you just Can you calm down a

[03:11] little bit? Like a little bit pounding

[03:14] the table. You're all over the place.

[03:15] Uh, no. You want me to go piece by piece

[03:18] or would you like me to talk slower? I

[03:20] think you can. Number one, just say he

[03:22] said no and put the mic down. Like this

[03:24] is Exactly. No, this is this is Listen,

[03:29] Charlie Kirk has been on the road and

[03:31] all he's been doing has been doing these

[03:34] um these type of like back and forth

[03:36] with with college students. Now, the

[03:40] college students here in Cambridge are

[03:42] prepared. They're not like showing up on

[03:45] the quad and realizing like, "Hey, man,

[03:48] Charlie Kirk is down there. Let's go

[03:49] question him." I got lunch at 1:30. So,

[03:52] I mean, understand, and I know this from

[03:55] my my performance days, if you if you're

[03:57] on the road as a comedian,

[04:00] your uh crowd work improves. So, Charlie

[04:05] immediately has to go to this type of

[04:08] like crowd work. Now, uh because he's

[04:13] embarrassed, he's not prepared for this

[04:16] level of actually substantive exchange.

[04:19] And I will tell you

[04:20] like if you have been through if you're

[04:24] going through like a a tour you know

[04:26] let's say you're doing a book tour and

[04:28] you're talking about your book I mean we

[04:30] you know we have people come through

[04:31] here all the time when they are

[04:33] practiced they are much smoother. They

[04:35] have all these answers that are sort of

[04:37] like you know uh somewhat formulaic.

[04:40] They're prepared to answer them and uh

[04:44] it shows and Kirk is perfectly sort of

[04:48] like situated

[04:50] to you. Look at you bouncing around.

[04:53] You're too excited. You're getting too

[04:55] emotional. This is what uh Tim Pool also

[04:57] fell back. He's stalling. He's stalling

[05:00] because he's not ready to answer the

[05:01] question. And also you're the one with

[05:03] the emotional response who went if like

[05:05] to an ad homonym or not maybe an ad

[05:08] homonym but you were Yeah, you're

[05:09] jumping around. You're banging on the

[05:10] table. He doesn't have a readym made

[05:13] response. And I want to make it clear, I

[05:15] am perfectly in favor of mocking people.

[05:19] Yeah. And of mocking people to their

[05:22] face. The problem that Charlie has here

[05:24] is that he has no substance. So, it's

[05:26] all sort of like smack talk, but no

[05:29] ability to shoot the jumper over the

[05:32] defender or to take it into the hoop.

[05:34] And he knows that frosting, no cake. And

[05:37] the problem he has here is that like

[05:40] even the conservatives in this audience,

[05:44] they're anticipating Charlie being able

[05:46] to deliver the goods and Charlie's not

[05:48] able to do that. And time and time

[05:49] again, we've seen that um there it's

[05:53] just not going over in the same way. But

[05:54] go ahead. Donald Trump is convening a

[05:56] peace deal between Russia and Ukraine.

[05:57] Joe Biden gave them Going well, isn't

[05:59] it? Can Can you not interrupt me? I

[06:01] allowed you to talk uninterrupted.

[06:02] You're famous for not interrupting.

[06:05] Yeah, I haven't interrupted a single

[06:07] person here today. Can I can I speak

[06:08] uninterrupted? Actually, he is convening

[06:11] a peace deal between Russia, Ukraine. I

[06:13] believe we will see an end to that war.

[06:15] Put a date on the deposit.

[06:17] I will tell you, I also think we're

[06:19] going to see an end to that

[06:22] war because nothing can last forever,

[06:25] right? But, uh, day one, we're going to

[06:28] stop that. So far, uh, Charlie, it

[06:31] doesn't seem to be working very well.

[06:33] good a peace deal between Russia

[06:35] Ukraine. I believe we will see an end to

[06:37] that war. Number two, he's actually

[06:39] talking to Iran and discouraging Israel

[06:41] to strike the interior of Iran and has

[06:43] stopped many other international um

[06:46] pause it for a second.

[06:47] Now, despite the fact that Donald Trump

[06:50] said on day one he was going to end the

[06:51] Ukraine uh

[06:53] Russia war, um that was, you know,

[06:57] obviously hyperbole and it's very well

[07:00] may be that he is able to stop the war,

[07:03] but he has shown no ability to do so any

[07:05] more than Joe Biden had an ability to do

[07:08] so. In terms of Iran, it is true that he

[07:12] very well may come to forge a deal that

[07:17] is maybe as good as the one that he

[07:20] unilaterally killed eight years ago.

[07:23] What did Charlie Kirk think about

[07:24] Obama's Iran deal? Exactly. The thing is

[07:26] is that they were never making this

[07:27] argument at that time, but now that

[07:29] Donald Trump wants to be the dealmaker,

[07:31] they have to fit their arguments to his

[07:33] sensibilities. The entire Republican

[07:35] party has been foaming at the mouth for

[07:38] war with Iran my entire lifetime. Also,

[07:41] they haven't signed a new deal yet. I

[07:42] mean, it is it is and to be clear, this

[07:45] is like me uh uh touting the fact that

[07:48] um I have saved multiple lives by not

[07:51] killing them. Yeah. Go ahead. Number

[07:54] three, can you give him credit for

[07:56] ending the Indian Pakistan war? Both of

[07:59] them said he didn't do that. Well, hold

[08:01] on a second. Let's let's go back. No,

[08:02] no, no. Russia Ukraine is a is the Can I

[08:05] Can I speak now? Yes, but the Indian

[08:07] Pakistan thing you got to go deeper than

[08:08] that. Can Let's go with Let's go in

[08:10] order. Is a peace summit where the main

[08:14] person in question Russia doesn't show

[08:15] up. Is that a success, Mr. Kirk?

[08:18] I'm not even sure. I'm not I'm not even

[08:20] sure a success. Well, again, these are

[08:22] ongoing negotiations, and it's a lot

[08:24] better than when your prime minister

[08:26] Boris Johnson went alongside our

[08:28] Secretary of State Tony Blinken to

[08:30] Istanbul and unnecessarily blew up a

[08:33] potential Russian peace deal in hundreds

[08:35] of thousands of dead Ukraine. I'm trying

[08:37] to think of what uh American politician

[08:40] supported Boris Johnson.

[08:43] Was it Donald Trump giving him a uh big

[08:46] endorsement? I'm sure he did. Am I

[08:47] mistaking that? Also, Trump armed

[08:50] Ukraine. The only problem he had with

[08:51] Ukraine was um they didn't they didn't

[08:54] say they didn't screw over Joe

[08:57] Biden. We could have made this much

[09:01] simpler. One of the great unnecessary

[09:04] wars of the modern era. Donald Trump

[09:06] believes in conversation and police boot

[09:08] through strength. He has been president

[09:09] for well over 120 to 130 days and he has

[09:12] already ended a war between two nuclear

[09:15] conflicts of India Pakistan. He has

[09:17] secured our own US southern border while

[09:19] we are being invaded by foreign powers.

[09:20] And thirdly, he is brokering a potential

[09:23] settlement with Iran that will prevent a

[09:25] major escalation in the Middle East. And

[09:27] finally, it is very difficult, but I

[09:29] believe they'll get it done that we'll

[09:31] finally see an end to the Russian

[09:32] Ukrainian war. No. Um, I'm just going to

[09:35] disregard the enormous lies you just put

[09:37] out there about Russia and Ukraine. But

[09:38] do you really think leverage

[09:40] negotiations work if you cut off all

[09:42] your leverage and scream at one party in

[09:43] the Oval Office? Don't you think that

[09:45] has just emboldened Russia? Because look

[09:47] at the approach. Putin thinks so much of

[09:48] your glorious president, he can't even

[09:50] be asked to show up. You have elected or

[09:52] help elect somebody who is at best an

[09:55] idiot and at worst is deeply

[09:57] corrupt. Okay. Again, so Trump and Putin

[09:59] had a 2-hour phone call today. You'll

[10:01] acknowledge that's a good thing. The

[10:02] pursuit of peace can sometimes be a

[10:04] winding road. And it's a lot better than

[10:06] sending hundreds of billions of dollars

[10:08] further into the killing fields of

[10:10] eastern Ukraine. something that

[10:12] tragically both the UK government and

[10:14] the US government has been unnecessarily

[10:16] supporting for a couple of years.

[10:18] President Trump wants to see a

[10:19] brokerage, an ending of this settlement.

[10:21] I pray we can get it. It's very

[10:22] complicated because of the mess that Joe

[10:24] Biden left, which was an active kinetic

[10:26] war with a nuclear power sending

[10:28] Americanmade missiles into the interior

[10:30] of Russia. So, President Trump has

[10:32] already ended a war. He's ended an

[10:33] invasion. He's only 130 days into this.

[10:36] And I believe we do not know at this

[10:37] point we are merely speculating which I

[10:39] think we should not spend our time doing

[10:40] that because eventually one of us will

[10:42] be right. I believe we will be right and

[10:44] I believe we'll see an end to this war.

[10:45] Can we just talk about 100 billions

[10:46] worth of weapons cuz you dodged my

[10:48] question on what was going on in the

[10:49] Middle East where Trump has just sent

[10:51] signed enormous arms contracts with

[10:54] Saudi Arabia and with Qatar. And you I

[10:57] noticed you ignored the fact that this

[10:58] might have had anything to do with the

[11:01] blatant corruption going on through the

[11:03] Trump coin and going on through giving

[11:05] the very competent sons of Donald Trump

[11:07] billions of investment from Saudi Arabia

[11:09] and Qatar. This is something that is

[11:11] directly embroiling Americans into

[11:13] conflict but is importantly killing many

[11:15] innocent people. Those nations have been

[11:17] known to terrorize innocent civilian

[11:19] populations. So if you're if you're

[11:20] coming to me and you're objecting to

[11:21] America selling weaponry, why are you um

[11:24] defending shilling for the Saudis? Well,

[11:26] hold on. One is sending weaponry, one is

[11:28] purchasing. Secondly, you do know that

[11:30] the biggest purchase that was announced

[11:31] Oh, pause it for a second. I got news

[11:33] for you. You think that we're just

[11:36] giving Ukraine weapons like there isn't

[11:38] we're not we're not we're not we aren't

[11:41] selling these weapons to Ukraine.

[11:44] They're we're giving them money to buy

[11:46] from our own inter from our own uh

[11:48] weapons manufacturers. Selfdeing. What

[11:50] is this? What is that? Like what are we

[11:52] talking about here? How about Donald

[11:53] Trump reversing Biden's decision to halt

[11:56] the one thing that he did was say that

[11:59] Israel can't use 2,000 lb bombs on the

[12:02] 141 square foot square mile Gaza Strip

[12:06] killing children and families over and

[12:08] over again. And and almost immediately

[12:10] Donald Trump reversed that. He's way

[12:13] more comfortable talking about Russia

[12:14] Ukraine. And I'll just say like Trump's

[12:15] approach of saying I basically hate

[12:17] Ukraine and love Russia. It hasn't

[12:19] really worked out the way that all of

[12:21] they have expected and Putin's just like

[12:22] okay I guess I don't need to do

[12:25] Yeahiner 737 hundred billion. You've

[12:28] heard of Qatar Airways. They purchase

[12:29] hundred billion of commercial airways.

[12:31] You are right. There were some weapons

[12:33] contracts. But I guess the question is

[12:34] would you rather have Saudi Arabia buy

[12:36] weapons from America or China? I'd

[12:38] rather they not have American weaponry

[12:40] at cut price. That is so revealing. That

[12:42] is so revealing. We've talked about this

[12:44] over and over on the show about how our

[12:46] murderous, genocidal Middle East policy

[12:49] is much more about keeping China away

[12:53] from the Middle East than it is about

[12:56] even our footprint there because we have

[12:58] like this military footprint there and

[13:00] we're trying to and we're expanding that

[13:02] with Saudi Arabia and Qar. But he

[13:04] admitted it there. Okay, we're helping

[13:06] commit genocide because we're using

[13:08] force while China's using soft power by

[13:10] say also China negotiated a

[13:16] uh negotiated or was a mediator between

[13:19] Iran and Saudi Arabia on Yemen and

[13:22] successfully much to the chagrin of the

[13:25] United States halted some of the worst

[13:27] of the starvation and horror in Yemen

[13:30] because of their talks with those two

[13:32] parties. That's what they're concerned

[13:34] about. So as China does that via

[13:36] negotiations or investment, the United

[13:38] States is trying to bomb everybody into

[13:39] oblivion and Charlie's supporting that

[13:42] foreign policy while he's claiming it's

[13:44] anti-war because of great power rivalry.

[13:48] Talk about for a second. You mentioned

[13:50] Qatar. Um you've been talking a lot

[13:52] about Hamas uh and the evils of Hamas.

[13:55] Can I ask you who is the main funer of

[13:56] Hamas? Well um the Palestinate. Well the

[14:01] West actually funds Hamas. Which state?

[14:03] Well, Iran funds No, no, no, no. Where

[14:05] are the Hamas leaders? And also funds

[14:07] Hamas. It is a It is a combination of

[14:09] international relief organizations. 400

[14:11] million jet with the president United

[14:12] States. Hold on. First of all, it was

[14:14] not given to him personally. I

[14:15] understand the optics optics of it, but

[14:17] it was not given to him personally. It

[14:18] was given to the US government. And

[14:20] under that standard, no US government

[14:22] should pause it for a second. Uh that is

[14:24] not my understanding. It was on loan to

[14:27] the US government but given to the Trump

[14:29] presidential

[14:31] library. Got to load all these books up

[14:34] in there. Yes, it's really just for the

[14:36] books. And very well. It's a library.

[14:37] Only the books will get to use it. No

[14:39] one in my family will be able to use the

[14:42] Trump presidential library. Oh my god.

[14:45] But a library in the sky. A library in

[14:47] the sky. Yeah. Listen, just coincidence

[14:49] that while I'm president, the US

[14:51] government will get to use it and then

[14:53] while I'm not president, my library will

[14:56] get to use it. I think when I'm in

[14:57] government, the government can have it

[15:00] from any foreign operate uh countries

[15:02] whatsoever. It's not given to him

[15:03] personally and not a violation of why is

[15:06] he trying to transfer to his personal

[15:08] his okay he sent out his way too in the

[15:12] weeds if you want to keep on going way

[15:14] too in the fundamental moral principle.

[15:16] Okay. So under that fundamental moral

[15:18] principle then can you acknowledge

[15:20] though that President Trump is getting

[15:21] more done in a less period of time than

[15:24] any president we've seen while our prior

[15:25] president was not did not even know what

[15:28] year he got elected. Do you understand

[15:30] the contrast here? What aboutism? Again,

[15:32] I'm not a defender of No, I'm not saying

[15:34] President Trump is far better than

[15:35] defend the person you spent millions. I

[15:37] would just say Trump's mental fitness is

[15:39] not it's pretty early in the

[15:41] administration to put all your eggs in

[15:42] that particular basket. I would say so,

[15:44] but of course he you see that Kirk has

[15:46] to change the subject. You're getting

[15:49] too weedy when you talk about the

[15:51] details of actually where that that that

[15:55] plane was going. Let's not get too

[15:57] specific here. Let's keep anyway 100

[15:59] Biden flap. What aboutism? Yeah. Even

[16:02] know what year he got elected. Do you

[16:04] understand the contrast here? What

[16:05] aboutism? Again, I'm not a defender of

[16:07] No, I'm not saying President Trump is

[16:09] far better than Defend the person you

[16:10] spent millions. Yeah, I I will I will

[16:13] defend every day of someone who ends an

[16:14] invasion. That's all you do is bring

[16:15] down the price of oil. The invasion

[16:17] being immigrants to this country. Oh, I

[16:19] see. Who is revitalizing the American

[16:21] economy, who's brokering peace, who

[16:24] stopped the potential nuclear war, who

[16:26] is bringing Iran to the table and

[16:27] bringing Russia to the table. Someone

[16:29] who does not want armed conflicts with

[16:31] the greatest powers of our time. I will

[16:33] defend that

[16:34] endlessly in a fantasy world of your own

[16:38] creation. So, it's quite hard to engage

[16:40] that and then disprove it. But let's

[16:41] check on how Trump is doing in terms of

[16:43] diplomacy. Look, with the war in the

[16:46] Middle East, do you think it was a

[16:48] defensible decision to tell the Israelis

[16:50] you wanted Trump Gaza to agree for

[16:53] Israel to invade the Gaza Strip and to

[16:55] continue to murder thousands of innocent

[16:58] children and civilians in a pointless

[16:59] war? Is that in America's interest? Is

[17:01] that in humanity? Well, first of all,

[17:02] you should know something about Trump.

[17:03] something. He's he's he's realized with

[17:06] Trump over the last 10 years. Um he is

[17:08] quite the social media user and uses

[17:10] hyperbolic language at times. But in the

[17:13] conflict of Israel versus Hamas, who's

[17:15] the good guy?

[17:17] Believe both Hamas and the Israeli

[17:18] government are evil. But I think also

[17:21] that there is no just equally. There is

[17:24] no justification for the murder and

[17:26] mutilation of thousands of innocent

[17:28] people and children of

[17:31] futile. There is no justification, Mr.

[17:34] President, for invading hospitals, for

[17:37] bombing innocent populations, and

[17:39] dragging out a war which is damaging

[17:41] Israel and the West. You've made that

[17:42] that point, but it's not a point. It's a

[17:44] moral truth, isn't it? Okay. Yeah. It

[17:46] was also a moral truth that the war

[17:47] started because 1300 Jews were killed

[17:49] and 200 were taken hostage. And when you

[17:51] declare war on Israel, expect a

[17:54] firestorm in reaction. Let me finish. I

[17:56] let you talk. Israel getting out.

[17:59] Holiest day of the calendar year besides

[18:01] Yam Kapoor and Rashashana sat the 50-y

[18:04] year anniversary of the six- day war. On

[18:06] Shabbat, Hamas invaded Israel. That's

[18:08] the holiest day in Israel. It's the 50th

[18:11] year of Okay. Okay. I didn't realize

[18:14] that that was a holy day. I did not

[18:17] learn that in Hebrew school. Oh, you

[18:19] didn't learn about the holy sixth day

[18:20] war day? No. Why? I mean, I learned

[18:22] about the sixth day war. I didn't

[18:24] realize that was a holy day. It's

[18:26] biblical. Well, perhaps it is for

[18:28] Charlie because what's his religion? I

[18:30] don't know if he subscribes to the idea

[18:32] that the end times are coming if more

[18:34] and more Jews go to Israel, but the more

[18:36] conflict that is in that region, the

[18:38] more that the evangelicals get their

[18:40] biblical prophecy of most of the Jews

[18:42] burning up so that Jesus comes back. Um,

[18:45] you can see Kirk though now is like is

[18:48] attempting to get morally righteous.

[18:49] Now, he understands like this is the way

[18:51] that he salvages to the extent that

[18:53] there are any Americans who are going to

[18:55] watch this. This is the way he salvages

[18:57] it, at least for his own audience, is to

[19:00] wrap himself in the cloak of it uh being

[19:03] something to do with anti-semitism. And

[19:05] they clipped this themselves. Yeah. Um

[19:08] Oh, did they? Yeah. Yeah, that would

[19:10] explain it. Um All right, let's go on to

[19:13] another one cuz he I mean it's quite

[19:15] clear uh he was handed Let's just get

[19:17] through this. Let's see the responses.

[19:18] Taken hostage. And when you declare war

[19:20] on Israel, expect a firestorm in

[19:23] reaction. Let me finish. I let you

[19:25] America

[19:26] first the holiest day of the calendar

[19:29] year besides Yam Kapoor and Rashashana

[19:31] samat the 50-year anniversary of the

[19:33] six- day war on Shabbat in Israel

[19:36] deciding to go recklessly to music

[19:39] concerts to homes to kabutz and taking

[19:42] 200 plus hostages. They knew what they

[19:44] were doing in one of the most cloistered

[19:46] urban environments on the planet. 2

[19:48] million people live in a place where

[19:49] it's impossible to wage war, impossible

[19:52] where they wear civilian clothing. They

[19:54] violate every tenant of the Geneva

[19:55] Convention and the IDF. When they do

[19:57] something right, they get no credit.

[19:58] When they do life-saving surgeries of a

[20:00] Gazian child, they get no credit. When

[20:01] they drop leaflets, drop leaflets, they

[20:03] get no credit. But when they happen to

[20:05] bomb a place where they are operating

[20:07] their military from, which we now know

[20:08] from third party verified sources,

[20:10] hundreds of Hamas military operations

[20:12] are in mosques, schools, and hospitals.

[20:15] I'm sorry, the country that where they

[20:16] were living in relative peace on October

[20:18] 6th that all of a sudden we had a war

[20:20] and Hamas started the war. And I don't

[20:22] see people that were really upset about

[20:23] the 2 million Germans that were killed

[20:25] in World War II. Civilians. A tragic

[20:27] truth of war is that civilians die. I

[20:29] don't like it and you don't like it. And

[20:31] they brought it upon themselves. The

[20:33] only operation entity to blame is the

[20:35] leadership of Hamas, not the Israeli

[20:37] government, for fighting this defensive

[20:39] war after they were

[20:42] invaded. I am no defender of the

[20:45] terrible program that was launched

[20:47] against Jews on that day. But the

[20:49] justification for the death of innocents

[20:51] cannot be an infinite cycle of

[20:53] bloodlust. It cannot be killing tens of

[20:56] thousands of innocent civilians with a

[20:58] war with no end in sight. People who are

[21:00] not complicit in those atrocities. It

[21:02] cannot be bombing hospitals which

[21:04] children use. It cannot be bombing

[21:06] hospitals in which cancer patients are

[21:08] dying and starving in there. The deaths

[21:10] that have been inflicted, nobody knows

[21:12] the true toll, but somewhere between 50

[21:14] and 100,000 people lie dead under the

[21:17] rubble. And what is left for Gaza except

[21:20] for to continue to suffer under Hamas?

[21:22] Because it turns out Netanyahu's

[21:23] political strategy has not worked. It

[21:26] has entrenched. I like this guy, but I

[21:28] wish that he responded with the to the

[21:31] accusa to to the reasoning that Charlie

[21:33] Kirk used um which was that Gaza is so

[21:38] densely populated. Why is it so densely

[21:41] populated? Why do Hamas have why does

[21:44] Hamas have to conduct its military

[21:46] operations in again that 141 square mile

[21:50] strip of land? It's because Israel

[21:52] controls their borders, land and sea.

[21:54] They have no air force. They have no

[21:55] airport. They have no passports. In many

[21:58] instances, if you leave the Gaza Strip,

[22:00] it's very difficult to get back and

[22:01] maybe see the rest of your family.

[22:03] Israel won't let you back in. It's

[22:05] because it's an open air concentration

[22:07] camp. That's why they're conducting

[22:09] their military operations within the

[22:13] boundaries of the concentration camp

[22:15] that they live in, the permanent refugee

[22:18] camp. Yep. Half of the population prior

[22:20] to the genocide was children in part

[22:23] because of the circulating death that

[22:26] Israel would uh uh engender and create

[22:30] in that area and because they would do

[22:33] operations every single year calling mow

[22:36] called mowing the lawn where they would

[22:38] try to cut undercut Palestinian

[22:40] resistance in the Gaza Strip by bombing

[22:42] people indiscriminately prior to this.

[22:44] So the idea that they were living in

[22:46] relative peace is a completely false

[22:48] notion. So I like that that guy. He did

[22:50] a lot of great stuff there, but I feel

[22:52] like that could have been stronger. I

[22:53] want to make a, you know, point and we

[22:54] have another clip on this, but when

[22:55] Charlie Kirk says, "Who are the good

[22:56] guys and who are the bad guys there?"

[22:58] Um, there's this clip of Jake Tapper

[23:00] saying that um, students are seeing

[23:03] things only in terms of oppressor and

[23:04] oppressed. And it's actually projection

[23:06] by Zionists because I have an answer for

[23:09] where Hamas, the bad things from Hamas

[23:10] and Zionist come from. from a settler

[23:12] colonial structure that inevitably

[23:14] produces this sort of hatred. It's what

[23:15] produced this um feelings towards Native

[23:19] Americans in this country. It is the

[23:20] structure has nothing to do with these

[23:21] religions. These holy books have been

[23:23] around for thousands of years that

[23:24] haven't changed. What changes these

[23:26] nationalisms and I just think it's

[23:29] ridiculous how how infantile that gets

[23:31] when it's like who's the good guys,

[23:32] who's the bad guys. Um that I'm not in a

[23:34] Marvel movie right now. Well, they are

[23:37] when they perceive a certain kind of

[23:40] like western or white, who's black,

[23:42] white. That's what it is. Who's the

[23:44] savage and who is the western first

[23:48] world

[23:50] sophisticated society? It's just clash

[23:52] of civilizations that they're grafting

[23:55] onto this. Let's look at um uh Jake

[23:58] Tapper. Was he on uh Bill? He was on

[24:01] Bill Maher's show.

[24:05] Um and uh go ahead please. It has to do

[24:09] with an academic um theology of

[24:12] oppressor and oppressed. You only look

[24:15] at the world. Did he just say an

[24:16] academic theology? Yes, he did. So of

[24:21] oppressor and oppressed.

[24:24] Is it is he like what like an academic

[24:28] theology? Cuckoo. I think he's trying to

[24:31] say trying to undermine their uh

[24:33] thinking by by by by saying it's a

[24:35] religion. It's something like that. It's

[24:37] like culture. It's like, you know, when

[24:38] the kids wore their hats backwards or

[24:40] their pants saggy, it's like it's a

[24:43] trend

[24:45] that they accurately recogn.

[24:48] Yeah. That they accurately recognize uh

[24:51] power in the world. Okay. An academic

[24:54] theology. Um Go ahead. It has to do with

[24:58] an academic um theology of oppressor and

[25:02] oppressed. Yes. If you only look at the

[25:04] world as oppressor versus oppressed, you

[25:06] have you then have to choose in a

[25:08] conflict this group is the oppressor,

[25:10] this group is the oppressed. It's also

[25:12] why for example uh there have been

[25:14] conflicts on other college campuses uh

[25:17] where where gay students uh have

[25:19] protested things that are going on in

[25:21] Muslim countries having to do uh with

[25:24] the LGBTQ community in those countries

[25:26] and the gay students are made to be the

[25:28] oppressor because a lot of them are

[25:29] white and that that's also what's going

[25:31] on when it comes to the Israeli uh

[25:33] Palestinian conflict is saying that um

[25:37] Israelis are being made to be the

[25:39] oppressors because they're white in this

[25:41] instance.

[25:42] It has nothing to do with the complete

[25:48] uh total asymmetry in the power of these

[25:51] two um groups of

[25:54] people. One being controlled by the

[25:56] other, one having all the weapons, one

[25:59] having all the resources, one having all

[26:02] the food, one having control of the

[26:04] electricity and the water.

[26:07] It's just because the Israelis are

[26:10] white according to Jake Tapper. And

[26:12] that's what these pink he's this is

[26:14] that's how he's dismissing the

[26:16] pink-haired college kids.

[26:18] I am curious if someone has an example

[26:21] of a a Hamas leader or a Palestinian

[26:25] leader saying something equivalent to

[26:27] what Ahoud Barack said in

[26:30] 1998, which is when he said, "If I was a

[26:34] Palestinian at the right age and at some

[26:37] stage, I would have entered the terror

[26:38] organizations and have fought from

[26:41] there and later certainly have tried to

[26:44] influence from within the political

[26:45] system." But this is good for Jake

[26:47] because we really don't have enough of

[26:49] this in media. We don't have enough of

[26:52] uh rep we don't have enough

[26:54] representation of the perspective that

[26:57] the Israelis are the victims. This is

[26:59] Jake Tapper doing his Jerry Seinfeld

[27:00] like the college students don't like my

[27:02] gay king joke anymore. It's crazy hope

[27:04] there. students uh have protested things

[27:08] that are going on in Muslim countries

[27:10] having to do uh with the LGBTQ community

[27:13] in those countries. And the gay students

[27:15] are made to be the oppressor because a

[27:16] lot of them are white. And that that's

[27:18] also what's going on when it comes to

[27:19] the Israeli uh Palestinian conflict. The

[27:22] Israelis are made to be the oppressor,

[27:24] the Palestinians the oppressed, and on

[27:25] and on and on. And that's part of of

[27:28] what's going on at Harvard, that

[27:29] theology, that way of looking at the

[27:31] world. All right. Okay. First off, it's

[27:34] also I I don't know why he keeps calling

[27:36] it theology,

[27:38] but has this always been the case?

[27:41] Has this always been the case that

[27:42] college students have always

[27:46] um have college students always been uh

[27:49] uh taking this position? Because I don't

[27:52] think it was the case 40 years ago. I

[27:54] don't think it was the case 50 years

[27:56] ago. I don't think it was the case even

[27:58] maybe even 30 years ago.

[28:03] somehow this theology evolved.

[28:07] It's as if like God died or something

[28:09] and uh came back or

[28:12] maybe it became clear what the dynamic

[28:15] is.

[28:17] Can you imagine if he made this argument

[28:19] about like say South

[28:21] Africa? The the the white South Africans

[28:24] did are made to be the oppressors. I can

[28:26] guarantee you absolutely did. And the

[28:28] black South Africans, the oppressed

[28:30] because say uh and then he made some

[28:33] sort of point about the uh lacking

[28:35] culture of black South Africans. Maybe

[28:37] he would make a point about say crime

[28:38] rates or something like that to say how

[28:41] you know uh that's there's a hypocrisy

[28:43] involved there. But but you hear the

[28:46] racist he went to the right show to make

[28:48] an Islamophobic racist argument which is

[28:51] this is when I remember watching Bill

[28:54] Maher's show and when I realized this

[28:56] was not the show for me was his rampant

[28:59] Islamophobia when I was getting

[29:00] interested in atheism and you saw how

[29:03] him and Sam Harris and that whole

[29:05] movement they were atheists but they

[29:07] were also like somehow Zionists at the

[29:10] same time because they felt that the

[29:12] Israeli culture or western society

[29:14] society was more advanced and thus for

[29:17] you should be more sympathetic to them.

[29:19] Islam was the motherload of bad ideas.

[29:21] as I used to say. My my favorite thing

[29:22] about Sam Harris is is that um when he

[29:26] first started doing his tours around

[29:28] that time, they were all at um Temple

[29:33] Brotherhoods and Sisterhood uh sponsored

[29:36] tours, which is amazing for a guy who's

[29:39] basically whose argument is um there's a

[29:42] problem with religion unless it's

[29:45] there's a problem with religion, but

[29:46] there's really a problem with one

[29:48] specific arena where we got to start.

[29:50] Yeah. And and and so he also cites this

[29:54] example that I have not seen evidence

[29:55] for these gay students that gay students

[29:59] are against Iran or whatever. Where are

[30:00] the gay students? Yeah. Protesting. I I

[30:03] I perhaps it's true. Perhaps there's a

[30:05] lot of coverage of this that I haven't

[30:07] seen. These gay students protesting

[30:09] these savages in the Middle East for

[30:11] their, you know, oppression of women. I

[30:13] am really sick of feminism being used

[30:17] for imperialist racist ends, especially

[30:20] from the mouth of somebody like Jake

[30:22] Tapper who has consistently

[30:25] uh supported the genocide of

[30:27] Palestinians that included

[30:28] disproportionately women who were being

[30:30] slaughtered by this. um the usage of

[30:33] western chauvinism to say that uh

[30:36] because there are fundamentalist Islamic

[30:39] religions in the area that are yes

[30:41] repressive of women that that is a

[30:43] justification to dehumanize them or say

[30:45] that they are evil or that the

[30:47] Palestinian liberation cause should be

[30:48] broadly smeared. It is about like using

[30:52] wealth and capitalism as a way to

[30:54] dehumanize a population that has been

[30:58] the whole region bombed by my country

[31:00] with my tax dollars for decades and

[31:03] decades and decades. And many of those

[31:06] Islamic fundamentalist governments were

[31:08] propped up by our government because we

[31:10] thought that they were more easily

[31:11] controllable including to this day.

[31:14] They're doing deals with Qatar. They're

[31:17] doing deals with Muhammad bin Salman.

[31:19] not a democratic leader as we talk about

[31:21] democracy who also oppresses women.

[31:23] They're doing deals with CC with leaders

[31:26] across the region to shape the region in

[31:28] their own uh vision. And there the idea

[31:32] that Tapper can sit there and say that

[31:34] there's their hypocrisy in terms of

[31:37] protesting what's going on there because

[31:39] yeah, like white women have it better

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