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Charlie Kirk Faces Cambridge Students on Trump Foreign Policy and Middle East Conflicts
Charlie Kirk's appearance at Cambridge University turned into a heated exchange when prepared students challenged his defense of Trump's foreign policy. From arms deals with Saudi Arabia and Qatar to the wars in Gaza, Yemen, and Ukraine, Kirk struggled to respond to pointed questions about whether Trump has truly put America first or sold it out. The discussion exposed tensions between Kirk's anti-war rhetoric and the reality of U.S. involvement in multiple conflicts, with students pressing him on corruption allegations, weapons contracts, and the humanitarian toll of policies he supports. Commentary breaks down how Kirk's usual crowd-work tactics failed against well-researched opponents, and examines broader media narratives about Israel-Palestine through clips of Jake Tapper on Bill Maher's show.
Cambridge Students Challenge Kirk on Trump's Foreign Policy Record
Charlie Kirk's visit to Cambridge University became a battleground of ideas when prepared students confronted him about Donald Trump's foreign policy approach. Unlike the spontaneous campus encounters Kirk typically navigates, these Cambridge students came armed with specific facts about arms deals, conflicts, and alleged corruption.
The exchange began with a student challenging Kirk's claim that Trump puts America first. The student cited Trump accepting a $400 million private jet from Qatar, billions in arms sales to Saudi Arabia being used to bomb Yemen, and the $5.5 billion deal Trump's sons received from Middle Eastern governments. The student asked directly whether Kirk and his supporters had sold America out.
Kirk's response revealed his discomfort with the substantive nature of the questions. Rather than addressing the specifics, he employed stalling tactics, telling the student to "calm down" and criticizing them for "pounding the table" and being "all over the place." These crowd-work techniques that serve Kirk well in impromptu campus visits fell flat against prepared opponents.
Defending Trump's Peace Efforts
When Kirk finally addressed the substance, he pointed to Trump's efforts to broker peace between Russia and Ukraine, claiming Trump had already ended a war between India and Pakistan. The student pushed back, noting that both countries disputed Trump's role in any peace agreement.
On the Russia-Ukraine situation, the student questioned whether Trump's approach was working, noting that Russia's Putin couldn't even be bothered to show up to peace summits. Kirk defended Trump's two-hour phone call with Putin as progress, arguing that pursuing peace is "a winding road" and better than sending "hundreds of billions of dollars further into the killing fields of eastern Ukraine."
The student then pivoted to a point Kirk had dodged: the massive arms contracts with Saudi Arabia and Qatar, and the apparent connection to billions in investments flowing to Trump's sons and the Trump cryptocurrency. Kirk attempted to reframe the issue, asking whether the student would prefer Saudi Arabia buy weapons from China instead of America.
The Revealing Admission About Great Power Competition
This exchange exposed a fundamental truth about U.S. Middle East policy that often goes unstated. Kirk's admission that America must sell weapons to Saudi Arabia to prevent Chinese influence revealed that the genocidal Middle East policy is less about American security and more about preventing China from gaining soft power in the region. While China successfully mediated peace talks between Iran and Saudi Arabia regarding Yemen, the United States continues to bomb populations into submission while framing it as anti-war policy due to great power rivalry.
The Qatar Jet Controversy
When the student pressed Kirk on the $400 million jet from Qatar, Kirk claimed it wasn't given to Trump personally but to the U.S. government. However, reports indicate the jet was on loan to the government but would ultimately be transferred to the Trump presidential library. Kirk argued this meant no violation of principles regarding foreign gifts, but quickly changed subjects when the details became too specific, suggesting the student was getting "too in the weeds."
Confrontation Over Gaza and Israel
The most heated portion of the exchange came when the student challenged Kirk on Gaza. The student asked whether it was defensible for Trump to greenlight "Operation Gideon's Chariot" with the express aim of devastating the Gaza population, questioning whether supporting the killing of thousands of children serves American or humanitarian interests.
Kirk initially dismissed Trump's inflammatory rhetoric as "hyperbolic language" typical of his social media use. When pressed on who the "good guy" was in the Israel-Hamas conflict, Kirk said the student believed "both Hamas and the Israeli government are evil."
The student responded that regardless of political positions, there is no justification for "the murder and mutilation of thousands of innocent people and children," for "invading hospitals" and "bombing innocent populations" in a futile, dragging war damaging both Israel and the West.
Kirk's Defense of Israeli Military Action
Kirk countered by invoking the October 7th attack, noting that 1,300 Jews were killed and 200 taken hostage on what he called Israel's holiest day. He argued that when Hamas "invaded Israel" on the Sabbath during the 50th anniversary of the Six-Day War, they knew they were declaring war and should "expect a firestorm in reaction."
Kirk went on to defend Israeli military operations, claiming Hamas violates "every tenant of the Geneva Convention" by wearing civilian clothing and operating in one of "the most cloistered urban environments on the planet" where 2 million people live in a space where "it's impossible to wage war." He argued that when the IDF does "life-saving surgeries of a Gazan child" or drops leaflets warning of attacks, "they get no credit," but when they bomb locations housing Hamas military operations in "mosques, schools, and hospitals," they receive all the blame.
Kirk concluded with a comparison to World War II, noting he doesn't see people upset about the 2 million German civilians killed in that conflict. He stated that "a tragic truth of war is that civilians die" and placed sole blame on Hamas leadership, not the Israeli government fighting a "defensive war."
The Student's Response
The student pushed back against Kirk's justifications, stating that while not defending the attacks of October 7th, "the justification for the death of innocents cannot be an infinite cycle of bloodlust." He argued it cannot justify "killing tens of thousands of innocent civilians with a war with no end in sight," people who are "not complicit in those atrocities."
The student emphasized that "somewhere between 50 and 100,000 people lie dead under the rubble" and questioned what is left for Gaza except continued suffering under Hamas, since Netanyahu's political strategy has not worked and has instead entrenched the situation.
Analysis: The Density Question Kirk Avoided
Commentary on the exchange noted that while the Cambridge student performed well, he missed an opportunity to address Kirk's argument about Gaza's dense population. The question Kirk avoided: Why is Gaza so densely populated? Why must Hamas conduct military operations in a 141 square mile strip of land?
The answer: Israel controls Gaza's borders, land and sea. Gaza has no air force, no airport, and many residents have no passports. If Gazans leave the Strip, it's often impossible to return and see family because Israel controls entry. Gaza functions as an open-air concentration camp, a permanent refugee camp where half the population before the current conflict was children.
Israel's practice of conducting operations called "mowing the lawn" involved regular bombing campaigns designed to undercut Palestinian resistance by indiscriminately attacking the population. The notion that Gazans were "living in relative peace" before October 7th is demonstrably false.
Jake Tapper's "Academic Theology" Theory
The discussion also examined media narratives around Israel-Palestine through a clip of Jake Tapper appearing on Bill Maher's show. Tapper argued that campus protests supporting Palestinians stem from an "academic theology of oppressor and oppressed."
Tapper claimed students "only look at the world as oppressor versus oppressed" and therefore must choose sides in any conflict. He argued this framework leads to Israelis being "made to be the oppressor because they're white" rather than because of the actual power asymmetry between Israelis and Palestinians.
Tapper cited an example of gay students protesting LGBTQ oppression in Muslim countries being labeled oppressors "because a lot of them are white," drawing a parallel to how he believes Israelis are unfairly characterized.
Deconstructing Tapper's Argument
Commentary sharply criticized Tapper's framing, noting he dismissed the actual "complete total asymmetry in the power of these two groups of people." One group controls the other, possesses all the weapons, resources, food, and controls electricity and water for the other population. Yet Tapper attributes student activism solely to viewing Israelis as white rather than recognizing this massive power imbalance.
The analysis asked whether someone could find an example of a Hamas or Palestinian leader saying anything equivalent to what Israeli leader Ehud Barak stated in 1998: "If I was a Palestinian at the right age and at some stage, I would have entered the terror organizations and have fought from there."
Tapper's repeated use of the word "theology" to describe student activism was noted as an attempt to undermine their thinking by framing it as religion-like or cult-like, rather than acknowledging they accurately recognize power dynamics in the world.
The Islamophobia and Racism Behind the Narrative
The commentary connected Tapper's appearance to Bill Maher's "rampant Islamophobia" and the New Atheist movement of figures like Sam Harris, who claimed to be atheists while simultaneously supporting Zionism because they viewed Israeli or Western culture as more advanced than Islamic societies. Harris famously called Islam "the motherload of bad ideas."
The analysis pointed out that Sam Harris's early speaking tours were largely sponsored by Temple Brotherhoods and Sisterhoods, revealing the contradiction of an atheist whose primary religious critique focused on one specific region where military intervention was desired.
Commentary strongly objected to feminism and LGBTQ rights being weaponized for imperialist and racist ends, particularly from someone like Tapper who has "consistently supported the genocide of Palestinians that included disproportionately women." The critique noted that Western chauvinism is being used to dehumanize populations in a region that has been bombed by the United States for decades.
The Hypocrisy of Selective Outrage
The discussion highlighted that many Islamic fundamentalist governments, including those that oppress women, were propped up by the U.S. government because they were considered more controllable. Current arms deals with Qatar and Saudi Arabia's Mohammed bin Salman, "not a democratic leader," proceed without concern for women's rights or democracy.
The commentary concluded that the idea there's hypocrisy in not protesting Middle Eastern governments while supporting Palestinian liberation is absurd, especially when the U.S. continues shaping the region through deals with autocratic leaders and military force rather than supporting democratic movements.
Kirk's Framing Strategy
Returning to Kirk's Cambridge performance, the analysis noted that when cornered on substantive issues, Kirk attempted to salvage the situation for his American audience by wrapping himself in accusations of anti-Semitism. His question "who's the good guy?" revealed a Marvel movie-like simplification of complex geopolitical realities driven by settler colonialism.
The commentary argued that both Hamas and Zionist violence emerge from a settler colonial structure that inevitably produces hatred, similar to what occurred with Native Americans in the United States. The structure itself, not ancient religious texts or essential cultural characteristics, creates these conflicts. The framing of "good guys versus bad guys" or "civilized versus savage" represents a clash of civilizations narrative grafted onto the situation to justify Western support for Israeli actions.
Video Transcript
Charlie Kirk. We played a clip of
Charlie Kirk last week. He visited
Cambridge in the UK. I think there's
some type of exchange program where you
can have yourself humiliated by um uh
university students in Cambridge and
Charlie signed up for it. I think they
cover the cost of your flight and that's
probably why he did it. He wanted to see
uh the English
countryside and the only cost was that
he would get repeatedly humiliated
um on the internet. I think it's a new
program Cambridge has trying to launch
some of their students into the
influencer category by letting them dunk
repeatedly on sort of conservatives. And
so uh on uh I can't remember what day it
was last week, we played what was the
name of the woman? It was Tilly at
Blonde Practis on Tik Tok and she was
exceptional.
She really uh embarrassed uh Charlie
Kirk across the board in
um Charlie Kirk's attempt to impose his
uh fundamentalist vision of of how women
should be essentially in the kitchen in
in society pregnant and how would they
make them happier? It would make them
happier. He Charlie knows how to make
all women happier. He was using the
smile uh to population ratio, the very
scientific formulation to compare us to
nations in the continent of Africa and
was sort of spiraliness. He was trying
to determine whether Rwanda was Muslim
or not before he knew how to attack it.
He is the he tried the Islamophobia but
she was a little too prepared. Um which
one is this? Is this the foreign policy?
Okay. Um, here is uh where Charlie wades
into foreign policy with uh one of these
uh Cambridge
[Applause]
students. Um good evening, Mr. Kirk. Um
you've obviously devoted a lot of your
life to electing, keeping in power
Donald Trump, and you did so partly
because you said Trump would put
Americans first and take them out of
foreign conflicts. Should we see how uh
that is going at the moment? Currently,
Trump has just accepted a $400 million
debt from Qatar, which we're assured is
perfectly above board. Billions in arms
are going to Saudi Arabia, which they're
using to bomb and starve Yemeni
children. Not sure how that's in the
interest of the United States, but it
might be in the interest of the $5.5
billion deal his failed sons are
receiving. At the same time, this great
president of peace has green lit mass
killings, not just in Yemen, but in
Gaza, where he green lit an invasion
called Operation Gideon's Chariot with
the express aim of wiping out the Gazan
population. You promised to put America
first. Haven't you and your ilk sold
America
[Applause]
out? No.
Well, I'm glad you have great
intellectual substance and can answer
because it's all the culture wars to
you, isn't it? The second someone
actually tells you what you're doing.
Would you just Can you calm down a
little bit? Like a little bit pounding
the table. You're all over the place.
Uh, no. You want me to go piece by piece
or would you like me to talk slower? I
think you can. Number one, just say he
said no and put the mic down. Like this
is Exactly. No, this is this is Listen,
Charlie Kirk has been on the road and
all he's been doing has been doing these
um these type of like back and forth
with with college students. Now, the
college students here in Cambridge are
prepared. They're not like showing up on
the quad and realizing like, "Hey, man,
Charlie Kirk is down there. Let's go
question him." I got lunch at 1:30. So,
I mean, understand, and I know this from
my my performance days, if you if you're
on the road as a comedian,
your uh crowd work improves. So, Charlie
immediately has to go to this type of
like crowd work. Now, uh because he's
embarrassed, he's not prepared for this
level of actually substantive exchange.
And I will tell you
like if you have been through if you're
going through like a a tour you know
let's say you're doing a book tour and
you're talking about your book I mean we
you know we have people come through
here all the time when they are
practiced they are much smoother. They
have all these answers that are sort of
like you know uh somewhat formulaic.
They're prepared to answer them and uh
it shows and Kirk is perfectly sort of
like situated
to you. Look at you bouncing around.
You're too excited. You're getting too
emotional. This is what uh Tim Pool also
fell back. He's stalling. He's stalling
because he's not ready to answer the
question. And also you're the one with
the emotional response who went if like
to an ad homonym or not maybe an ad
homonym but you were Yeah, you're
jumping around. You're banging on the
table. He doesn't have a readym made
response. And I want to make it clear, I
am perfectly in favor of mocking people.
Yeah. And of mocking people to their
face. The problem that Charlie has here
is that he has no substance. So, it's
all sort of like smack talk, but no
ability to shoot the jumper over the
defender or to take it into the hoop.
And he knows that frosting, no cake. And
the problem he has here is that like
even the conservatives in this audience,
they're anticipating Charlie being able
to deliver the goods and Charlie's not
able to do that. And time and time
again, we've seen that um there it's
just not going over in the same way. But
go ahead. Donald Trump is convening a
peace deal between Russia and Ukraine.
Joe Biden gave them Going well, isn't
it? Can Can you not interrupt me? I
allowed you to talk uninterrupted.
You're famous for not interrupting.
Yeah, I haven't interrupted a single
person here today. Can I can I speak
uninterrupted? Actually, he is convening
a peace deal between Russia, Ukraine. I
believe we will see an end to that war.
Put a date on the deposit.
I will tell you, I also think we're
going to see an end to that
war because nothing can last forever,
right? But, uh, day one, we're going to
stop that. So far, uh, Charlie, it
doesn't seem to be working very well.
good a peace deal between Russia
Ukraine. I believe we will see an end to
that war. Number two, he's actually
talking to Iran and discouraging Israel
to strike the interior of Iran and has
stopped many other international um
pause it for a second.
Now, despite the fact that Donald Trump
said on day one he was going to end the
Ukraine uh
Russia war, um that was, you know,
obviously hyperbole and it's very well
may be that he is able to stop the war,
but he has shown no ability to do so any
more than Joe Biden had an ability to do
so. In terms of Iran, it is true that he
very well may come to forge a deal that
is maybe as good as the one that he
unilaterally killed eight years ago.
What did Charlie Kirk think about
Obama's Iran deal? Exactly. The thing is
is that they were never making this
argument at that time, but now that
Donald Trump wants to be the dealmaker,
they have to fit their arguments to his
sensibilities. The entire Republican
party has been foaming at the mouth for
war with Iran my entire lifetime. Also,
they haven't signed a new deal yet. I
mean, it is it is and to be clear, this
is like me uh uh touting the fact that
um I have saved multiple lives by not
killing them. Yeah. Go ahead. Number
three, can you give him credit for
ending the Indian Pakistan war? Both of
them said he didn't do that. Well, hold
on a second. Let's let's go back. No,
no, no. Russia Ukraine is a is the Can I
Can I speak now? Yes, but the Indian
Pakistan thing you got to go deeper than
that. Can Let's go with Let's go in
order. Is a peace summit where the main
person in question Russia doesn't show
up. Is that a success, Mr. Kirk?
I'm not even sure. I'm not I'm not even
sure a success. Well, again, these are
ongoing negotiations, and it's a lot
better than when your prime minister
Boris Johnson went alongside our
Secretary of State Tony Blinken to
Istanbul and unnecessarily blew up a
potential Russian peace deal in hundreds
of thousands of dead Ukraine. I'm trying
to think of what uh American politician
supported Boris Johnson.
Was it Donald Trump giving him a uh big
endorsement? I'm sure he did. Am I
mistaking that? Also, Trump armed
Ukraine. The only problem he had with
Ukraine was um they didn't they didn't
say they didn't screw over Joe
Biden. We could have made this much
simpler. One of the great unnecessary
wars of the modern era. Donald Trump
believes in conversation and police boot
through strength. He has been president
for well over 120 to 130 days and he has
already ended a war between two nuclear
conflicts of India Pakistan. He has
secured our own US southern border while
we are being invaded by foreign powers.
And thirdly, he is brokering a potential
settlement with Iran that will prevent a
major escalation in the Middle East. And
finally, it is very difficult, but I
believe they'll get it done that we'll
finally see an end to the Russian
Ukrainian war. No. Um, I'm just going to
disregard the enormous lies you just put
out there about Russia and Ukraine. But
do you really think leverage
negotiations work if you cut off all
your leverage and scream at one party in
the Oval Office? Don't you think that
has just emboldened Russia? Because look
at the approach. Putin thinks so much of
your glorious president, he can't even
be asked to show up. You have elected or
help elect somebody who is at best an
idiot and at worst is deeply
corrupt. Okay. Again, so Trump and Putin
had a 2-hour phone call today. You'll
acknowledge that's a good thing. The
pursuit of peace can sometimes be a
winding road. And it's a lot better than
sending hundreds of billions of dollars
further into the killing fields of
eastern Ukraine. something that
tragically both the UK government and
the US government has been unnecessarily
supporting for a couple of years.
President Trump wants to see a
brokerage, an ending of this settlement.
I pray we can get it. It's very
complicated because of the mess that Joe
Biden left, which was an active kinetic
war with a nuclear power sending
Americanmade missiles into the interior
of Russia. So, President Trump has
already ended a war. He's ended an
invasion. He's only 130 days into this.
And I believe we do not know at this
point we are merely speculating which I
think we should not spend our time doing
that because eventually one of us will
be right. I believe we will be right and
I believe we'll see an end to this war.
Can we just talk about 100 billions
worth of weapons cuz you dodged my
question on what was going on in the
Middle East where Trump has just sent
signed enormous arms contracts with
Saudi Arabia and with Qatar. And you I
noticed you ignored the fact that this
might have had anything to do with the
blatant corruption going on through the
Trump coin and going on through giving
the very competent sons of Donald Trump
billions of investment from Saudi Arabia
and Qatar. This is something that is
directly embroiling Americans into
conflict but is importantly killing many
innocent people. Those nations have been
known to terrorize innocent civilian
populations. So if you're if you're
coming to me and you're objecting to
America selling weaponry, why are you um
defending shilling for the Saudis? Well,
hold on. One is sending weaponry, one is
purchasing. Secondly, you do know that
the biggest purchase that was announced
Oh, pause it for a second. I got news
for you. You think that we're just
giving Ukraine weapons like there isn't
we're not we're not we're not we aren't
selling these weapons to Ukraine.
They're we're giving them money to buy
from our own inter from our own uh
weapons manufacturers. Selfdeing. What
is this? What is that? Like what are we
talking about here? How about Donald
Trump reversing Biden's decision to halt
the one thing that he did was say that
Israel can't use 2,000 lb bombs on the
141 square foot square mile Gaza Strip
killing children and families over and
over again. And and almost immediately
Donald Trump reversed that. He's way
more comfortable talking about Russia
Ukraine. And I'll just say like Trump's
approach of saying I basically hate
Ukraine and love Russia. It hasn't
really worked out the way that all of
they have expected and Putin's just like
okay I guess I don't need to do
Yeahiner 737 hundred billion. You've
heard of Qatar Airways. They purchase
hundred billion of commercial airways.
You are right. There were some weapons
contracts. But I guess the question is
would you rather have Saudi Arabia buy
weapons from America or China? I'd
rather they not have American weaponry
at cut price. That is so revealing. That
is so revealing. We've talked about this
over and over on the show about how our
murderous, genocidal Middle East policy
is much more about keeping China away
from the Middle East than it is about
even our footprint there because we have
like this military footprint there and
we're trying to and we're expanding that
with Saudi Arabia and Qar. But he
admitted it there. Okay, we're helping
commit genocide because we're using
force while China's using soft power by
say also China negotiated a
uh negotiated or was a mediator between
Iran and Saudi Arabia on Yemen and
successfully much to the chagrin of the
United States halted some of the worst
of the starvation and horror in Yemen
because of their talks with those two
parties. That's what they're concerned
about. So as China does that via
negotiations or investment, the United
States is trying to bomb everybody into
oblivion and Charlie's supporting that
foreign policy while he's claiming it's
anti-war because of great power rivalry.
Talk about for a second. You mentioned
Qatar. Um you've been talking a lot
about Hamas uh and the evils of Hamas.
Can I ask you who is the main funer of
Hamas? Well um the Palestinate. Well the
West actually funds Hamas. Which state?
Well, Iran funds No, no, no, no. Where
are the Hamas leaders? And also funds
Hamas. It is a It is a combination of
international relief organizations. 400
million jet with the president United
States. Hold on. First of all, it was
not given to him personally. I
understand the optics optics of it, but
it was not given to him personally. It
was given to the US government. And
under that standard, no US government
should pause it for a second. Uh that is
not my understanding. It was on loan to
the US government but given to the Trump
presidential
library. Got to load all these books up
in there. Yes, it's really just for the
books. And very well. It's a library.
Only the books will get to use it. No
one in my family will be able to use the
Trump presidential library. Oh my god.
But a library in the sky. A library in
the sky. Yeah. Listen, just coincidence
that while I'm president, the US
government will get to use it and then
while I'm not president, my library will
get to use it. I think when I'm in
government, the government can have it
from any foreign operate uh countries
whatsoever. It's not given to him
personally and not a violation of why is
he trying to transfer to his personal
his okay he sent out his way too in the
weeds if you want to keep on going way
too in the fundamental moral principle.
Okay. So under that fundamental moral
principle then can you acknowledge
though that President Trump is getting
more done in a less period of time than
any president we've seen while our prior
president was not did not even know what
year he got elected. Do you understand
the contrast here? What aboutism? Again,
I'm not a defender of No, I'm not saying
President Trump is far better than
defend the person you spent millions. I
would just say Trump's mental fitness is
not it's pretty early in the
administration to put all your eggs in
that particular basket. I would say so,
but of course he you see that Kirk has
to change the subject. You're getting
too weedy when you talk about the
details of actually where that that that
plane was going. Let's not get too
specific here. Let's keep anyway 100
Biden flap. What aboutism? Yeah. Even
know what year he got elected. Do you
understand the contrast here? What
aboutism? Again, I'm not a defender of
No, I'm not saying President Trump is
far better than Defend the person you
spent millions. Yeah, I I will I will
defend every day of someone who ends an
invasion. That's all you do is bring
down the price of oil. The invasion
being immigrants to this country. Oh, I
see. Who is revitalizing the American
economy, who's brokering peace, who
stopped the potential nuclear war, who
is bringing Iran to the table and
bringing Russia to the table. Someone
who does not want armed conflicts with
the greatest powers of our time. I will
defend that
endlessly in a fantasy world of your own
creation. So, it's quite hard to engage
that and then disprove it. But let's
check on how Trump is doing in terms of
diplomacy. Look, with the war in the
Middle East, do you think it was a
defensible decision to tell the Israelis
you wanted Trump Gaza to agree for
Israel to invade the Gaza Strip and to
continue to murder thousands of innocent
children and civilians in a pointless
war? Is that in America's interest? Is
that in humanity? Well, first of all,
you should know something about Trump.
something. He's he's he's realized with
Trump over the last 10 years. Um he is
quite the social media user and uses
hyperbolic language at times. But in the
conflict of Israel versus Hamas, who's
the good guy?
Believe both Hamas and the Israeli
government are evil. But I think also
that there is no just equally. There is
no justification for the murder and
mutilation of thousands of innocent
people and children of
futile. There is no justification, Mr.
President, for invading hospitals, for
bombing innocent populations, and
dragging out a war which is damaging
Israel and the West. You've made that
that point, but it's not a point. It's a
moral truth, isn't it? Okay. Yeah. It
was also a moral truth that the war
started because 1300 Jews were killed
and 200 were taken hostage. And when you
declare war on Israel, expect a
firestorm in reaction. Let me finish. I
let you talk. Israel getting out.
Holiest day of the calendar year besides
Yam Kapoor and Rashashana sat the 50-y
year anniversary of the six- day war. On
Shabbat, Hamas invaded Israel. That's
the holiest day in Israel. It's the 50th
year of Okay. Okay. I didn't realize
that that was a holy day. I did not
learn that in Hebrew school. Oh, you
didn't learn about the holy sixth day
war day? No. Why? I mean, I learned
about the sixth day war. I didn't
realize that was a holy day. It's
biblical. Well, perhaps it is for
Charlie because what's his religion? I
don't know if he subscribes to the idea
that the end times are coming if more
and more Jews go to Israel, but the more
conflict that is in that region, the
more that the evangelicals get their
biblical prophecy of most of the Jews
burning up so that Jesus comes back. Um,
you can see Kirk though now is like is
attempting to get morally righteous.
Now, he understands like this is the way
that he salvages to the extent that
there are any Americans who are going to
watch this. This is the way he salvages
it, at least for his own audience, is to
wrap himself in the cloak of it uh being
something to do with anti-semitism. And
they clipped this themselves. Yeah. Um
Oh, did they? Yeah. Yeah, that would
explain it. Um All right, let's go on to
another one cuz he I mean it's quite
clear uh he was handed Let's just get
through this. Let's see the responses.
Taken hostage. And when you declare war
on Israel, expect a firestorm in
reaction. Let me finish. I let you
America
first the holiest day of the calendar
year besides Yam Kapoor and Rashashana
samat the 50-year anniversary of the
six- day war on Shabbat in Israel
deciding to go recklessly to music
concerts to homes to kabutz and taking
200 plus hostages. They knew what they
were doing in one of the most cloistered
urban environments on the planet. 2
million people live in a place where
it's impossible to wage war, impossible
where they wear civilian clothing. They
violate every tenant of the Geneva
Convention and the IDF. When they do
something right, they get no credit.
When they do life-saving surgeries of a
Gazian child, they get no credit. When
they drop leaflets, drop leaflets, they
get no credit. But when they happen to
bomb a place where they are operating
their military from, which we now know
from third party verified sources,
hundreds of Hamas military operations
are in mosques, schools, and hospitals.
I'm sorry, the country that where they
were living in relative peace on October
6th that all of a sudden we had a war
and Hamas started the war. And I don't
see people that were really upset about
the 2 million Germans that were killed
in World War II. Civilians. A tragic
truth of war is that civilians die. I
don't like it and you don't like it. And
they brought it upon themselves. The
only operation entity to blame is the
leadership of Hamas, not the Israeli
government, for fighting this defensive
war after they were
invaded. I am no defender of the
terrible program that was launched
against Jews on that day. But the
justification for the death of innocents
cannot be an infinite cycle of
bloodlust. It cannot be killing tens of
thousands of innocent civilians with a
war with no end in sight. People who are
not complicit in those atrocities. It
cannot be bombing hospitals which
children use. It cannot be bombing
hospitals in which cancer patients are
dying and starving in there. The deaths
that have been inflicted, nobody knows
the true toll, but somewhere between 50
and 100,000 people lie dead under the
rubble. And what is left for Gaza except
for to continue to suffer under Hamas?
Because it turns out Netanyahu's
political strategy has not worked. It
has entrenched. I like this guy, but I
wish that he responded with the to the
accusa to to the reasoning that Charlie
Kirk used um which was that Gaza is so
densely populated. Why is it so densely
populated? Why do Hamas have why does
Hamas have to conduct its military
operations in again that 141 square mile
strip of land? It's because Israel
controls their borders, land and sea.
They have no air force. They have no
airport. They have no passports. In many
instances, if you leave the Gaza Strip,
it's very difficult to get back and
maybe see the rest of your family.
Israel won't let you back in. It's
because it's an open air concentration
camp. That's why they're conducting
their military operations within the
boundaries of the concentration camp
that they live in, the permanent refugee
camp. Yep. Half of the population prior
to the genocide was children in part
because of the circulating death that
Israel would uh uh engender and create
in that area and because they would do
operations every single year calling mow
called mowing the lawn where they would
try to cut undercut Palestinian
resistance in the Gaza Strip by bombing
people indiscriminately prior to this.
So the idea that they were living in
relative peace is a completely false
notion. So I like that that guy. He did
a lot of great stuff there, but I feel
like that could have been stronger. I
want to make a, you know, point and we
have another clip on this, but when
Charlie Kirk says, "Who are the good
guys and who are the bad guys there?"
Um, there's this clip of Jake Tapper
saying that um, students are seeing
things only in terms of oppressor and
oppressed. And it's actually projection
by Zionists because I have an answer for
where Hamas, the bad things from Hamas
and Zionist come from. from a settler
colonial structure that inevitably
produces this sort of hatred. It's what
produced this um feelings towards Native
Americans in this country. It is the
structure has nothing to do with these
religions. These holy books have been
around for thousands of years that
haven't changed. What changes these
nationalisms and I just think it's
ridiculous how how infantile that gets
when it's like who's the good guys,
who's the bad guys. Um that I'm not in a
Marvel movie right now. Well, they are
when they perceive a certain kind of
like western or white, who's black,
white. That's what it is. Who's the
savage and who is the western first
world
sophisticated society? It's just clash
of civilizations that they're grafting
onto this. Let's look at um uh Jake
Tapper. Was he on uh Bill? He was on
Bill Maher's show.
Um and uh go ahead please. It has to do
with an academic um theology of
oppressor and oppressed. You only look
at the world. Did he just say an
academic theology? Yes, he did. So of
oppressor and oppressed.
Is it is he like what like an academic
theology? Cuckoo. I think he's trying to
say trying to undermine their uh
thinking by by by by saying it's a
religion. It's something like that. It's
like culture. It's like, you know, when
the kids wore their hats backwards or
their pants saggy, it's like it's a
trend
that they accurately recogn.
Yeah. That they accurately recognize uh
power in the world. Okay. An academic
theology. Um Go ahead. It has to do with
an academic um theology of oppressor and
oppressed. Yes. If you only look at the
world as oppressor versus oppressed, you
have you then have to choose in a
conflict this group is the oppressor,
this group is the oppressed. It's also
why for example uh there have been
conflicts on other college campuses uh
where where gay students uh have
protested things that are going on in
Muslim countries having to do uh with
the LGBTQ community in those countries
and the gay students are made to be the
oppressor because a lot of them are
white and that that's also what's going
on when it comes to the Israeli uh
Palestinian conflict is saying that um
Israelis are being made to be the
oppressors because they're white in this
instance.
It has nothing to do with the complete
uh total asymmetry in the power of these
two um groups of
people. One being controlled by the
other, one having all the weapons, one
having all the resources, one having all
the food, one having control of the
electricity and the water.
It's just because the Israelis are
white according to Jake Tapper. And
that's what these pink he's this is
that's how he's dismissing the
pink-haired college kids.
I am curious if someone has an example
of a a Hamas leader or a Palestinian
leader saying something equivalent to
what Ahoud Barack said in
1998, which is when he said, "If I was a
Palestinian at the right age and at some
stage, I would have entered the terror
organizations and have fought from
there and later certainly have tried to
influence from within the political
system." But this is good for Jake
because we really don't have enough of
this in media. We don't have enough of
uh rep we don't have enough
representation of the perspective that
the Israelis are the victims. This is
Jake Tapper doing his Jerry Seinfeld
like the college students don't like my
gay king joke anymore. It's crazy hope
there. students uh have protested things
that are going on in Muslim countries
having to do uh with the LGBTQ community
in those countries. And the gay students
are made to be the oppressor because a
lot of them are white. And that that's
also what's going on when it comes to
the Israeli uh Palestinian conflict. The
Israelis are made to be the oppressor,
the Palestinians the oppressed, and on
and on and on. And that's part of of
what's going on at Harvard, that
theology, that way of looking at the
world. All right. Okay. First off, it's
also I I don't know why he keeps calling
it theology,
but has this always been the case?
Has this always been the case that
college students have always
um have college students always been uh
uh taking this position? Because I don't
think it was the case 40 years ago. I
don't think it was the case 50 years
ago. I don't think it was the case even
maybe even 30 years ago.
somehow this theology evolved.
It's as if like God died or something
and uh came back or
maybe it became clear what the dynamic
is.
Can you imagine if he made this argument
about like say South
Africa? The the the white South Africans
did are made to be the oppressors. I can
guarantee you absolutely did. And the
black South Africans, the oppressed
because say uh and then he made some
sort of point about the uh lacking
culture of black South Africans. Maybe
he would make a point about say crime
rates or something like that to say how
you know uh that's there's a hypocrisy
involved there. But but you hear the
racist he went to the right show to make
an Islamophobic racist argument which is
this is when I remember watching Bill
Maher's show and when I realized this
was not the show for me was his rampant
Islamophobia when I was getting
interested in atheism and you saw how
him and Sam Harris and that whole
movement they were atheists but they
were also like somehow Zionists at the
same time because they felt that the
Israeli culture or western society
society was more advanced and thus for
you should be more sympathetic to them.
Islam was the motherload of bad ideas.
as I used to say. My my favorite thing
about Sam Harris is is that um when he
first started doing his tours around
that time, they were all at um Temple
Brotherhoods and Sisterhood uh sponsored
tours, which is amazing for a guy who's
basically whose argument is um there's a
problem with religion unless it's
there's a problem with religion, but
there's really a problem with one
specific arena where we got to start.
Yeah. And and and so he also cites this
example that I have not seen evidence
for these gay students that gay students
are against Iran or whatever. Where are
the gay students? Yeah. Protesting. I I
I perhaps it's true. Perhaps there's a
lot of coverage of this that I haven't
seen. These gay students protesting
these savages in the Middle East for
their, you know, oppression of women. I
am really sick of feminism being used
for imperialist racist ends, especially
from the mouth of somebody like Jake
Tapper who has consistently
uh supported the genocide of
Palestinians that included
disproportionately women who were being
slaughtered by this. um the usage of
western chauvinism to say that uh
because there are fundamentalist Islamic
religions in the area that are yes
repressive of women that that is a
justification to dehumanize them or say
that they are evil or that the
Palestinian liberation cause should be
broadly smeared. It is about like using
wealth and capitalism as a way to
dehumanize a population that has been
the whole region bombed by my country
with my tax dollars for decades and
decades and decades. And many of those
Islamic fundamentalist governments were
propped up by our government because we
thought that they were more easily
controllable including to this day.
They're doing deals with Qatar. They're
doing deals with Muhammad bin Salman.
not a democratic leader as we talk about
democracy who also oppresses women.
They're doing deals with CC with leaders
across the region to shape the region in
their own uh vision. And there the idea
that Tapper can sit there and say that
there's their hypocrisy in terms of
protesting what's going on there because
yeah, like white women have it better
here. Give me a break. Hey folks, don't
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