Up Next
Brian Harpole's Shawn Ryan Interview: Integrity Security Reveals What Happened During Charlie Kirk's Final Moments
32:39
Alex Jones Reveals Shocking Ballistic Details From Charlie Kirk Assassination Surgeon's Report
26:04
Gary Melton With Paramount Reacts to Stephen Gardner's Ballistic Claims About Charlie Kirk's Neck Wound
12:18
Understanding the Charlie Kirk Autopsy: Lauren the Mortician Explains the Medical Examiner Report and Forensic Process
Following the tragic death of Charlie Kirk, confusion spread online about whether an autopsy was performed, with some claiming there was a cover-up. Lauren the Mortician with years of experience handling homicide cases breaks down what actually happens in high-profile death investigations, why an autopsy was legally required, and what the forensic examination would have revealed. From ballistics analysis to preservation procedures, this conversation addresses the questions millions have been asking while separating facts from speculation during a time when trust in official processes is being tested.
Breaking Down the Autopsy Process
In the wake of Charlie Kirk's death, millions watched the footage and began asking questions about the medical examination, the autopsy, and what happened to his body. Misinformation spread quickly, with some claiming no autopsy was performed and suggesting a potential cover-up. To address these concerns and provide clarity, Lauren the Mortician, a professional with years of experience in death investigation and autopsies, offers insight into what actually happens in cases like this.
Lauren explains that in the United States, any suspected homicide legally requires a coroner or medical examiner autopsy. Having personally worked as a medical examiner transporter for many years, handling homicides, suicides, and traumatic accidents, she knew immediately that the claims of no autopsy were false. When she saw the misinformation spreading, she felt compelled to speak out because the public deserved accurate information about such a high-profile case.
Her concerns were validated when someone from the medical examiner's office reached out anonymously to confirm that Charlie Kirk absolutely had an autopsy performed. While grateful for the confirmation, Lauren expressed disappointment that the medical examiner's office and the governor of Utah didn't issue a public statement sooner to clear up the rumors, which only fueled more speculation and eroded public trust.
The Immediate Aftermath and Initial Assessment
Based on the footage available, Lauren describes what she observed from a professional perspective. When she saw how quickly Charlie slumped over after being shot, and considering the nature of the injury to his neck, she knew in her heart that death was essentially instantaneous. Having seen extensive trauma to bodies throughout her career, the body language and the visible damage told her that Charlie Kirk would not have survived this injury, regardless of medical intervention.
The gunshot wound entered just below the jaw at the C2 vertebra, according to sources at Turning Point USA. The bullet crashed through vertebrae C2 all the way through C7 and was found lodged in the area around the T1 thoracic vertebra. The energy expelled by the bullet in that fraction of a second was catastrophic, destroying the heart and major blood vessels. Rather than blood spurting out, it poured from the body like a fountain because the closed circulatory system had been completely shredded.
The Legal Requirements and Timeline
In high-profile cases like this, the response is immediate and coordinated. Lauren explains that when Charlie Kirk's body left the hospital, he would have been in the black minivan visible in the procession footage—a funeral home removal van followed by the medical examiner's vehicle. Unlike typical cases where the medical examiner might go home after an initial assessment, this case demanded immediate action.
With the president and vice president requesting answers, the pathologist and autopsy team would have been called in immediately. The autopsy likely took place that same night, or at the very latest, first thing the following morning. Once the medical examination was complete and all evidence collected from the body, the funeral home could pick up immediately—sometimes directly from the autopsy table to the transport cot.
The preservation process needed to happen quickly for several reasons. First, during an autopsy, the body undergoes a full medical examination with a Y-incision, organ removal, and cranial exam where the brain is extracted. This exposure to the elements accelerates decomposition significantly, with blood being the fastest part of the body to decompose. Second, the family wanted the opportunity for final closure and to say goodbye, which required proper preservation. Third, transporting a body by airplane—as was necessary in this case—requires preservation for both practical and liability reasons.
The Forensic Examination Process
Before any incisions are made, the medical examiner conducts a thorough external examination, taking extensive photographs and documentation. Then, X-rays are performed on the entire body. These images reveal bullets, fragments, and trajectory paths before any dissection begins. X-rays are far superior to metal detectors for this purpose, providing precise imaging that shows exactly where the bullet and any fragments are located, as well as revealing all bone fractures and damage.
In Charlie Kirk's case, the destroyed vertebrae and the bullet lodged near the T1 vertebra would have appeared clearly on the X-ray imaging before any incision was made. This imaging is critical not just for the medical examination but also for the criminal investigation. Forensic experts perform what's called a trajectory analysis, tracing the bullet path through the tissue. They may insert probes or rods to determine the exact angle of entry and map out where the shooter was positioned.
The angle of this particular shot was unusual. Coming from Tyler Robinson's position on a roof 149 yards away, at a high angle but also seven to eight feet to the side, the bullet didn't pass through and exit the back of the neck. Instead, it entered at a downward angle, crashed into the C2 vertebra, and traveled through multiple vertebrae before lodging in the tissue near T1. Lauren noted that neck wounds like this are relatively rare in her experience. Most gunshot homicides she's handled involved the chest area because it's a larger target, making this case particularly unique.
Preparation for Viewing
The preservation and cosmetic restoration work required careful attention. Fortunately for the funeral director, the entry wound was on the non-viewing side of the casket, so when family members approached, they wouldn't immediately see the damaged area. However, significant reconstruction work was still necessary.
Depending on the extent of damage from both the gunshot and the autopsy examination, the mortician would need to rebuild the neck area using tissue builders, wax, and other materials to restore the natural shape. Special sutures can hide incisions, and then wax and cosmetics complete the restoration. Lauren observed photos from the viewing and noted that while the cosmetic work on the hands appeared somewhat orange and discolored, she could definitively identify them as Charlie Kirk's hands based on the knuckles, fingernails, and other details visible even in close-up photos.
Public Records and Information Access
An important detail that many people don't realize is that Utah is one of very few states that does not have to release public records about autopsies. The medical examiner's office can choose what information, if any, to share with the public. A Fox journalist already attempted to request autopsy documentation and was denied, being told that Utah does not release such information to the public.
This means that whatever information becomes available will likely come either during the trial proceedings or through what Turning Point USA chooses to release. Lauren expressed hope that some information about trajectory and ballistics would be shared, as the lack of transparency is fueling conspiracy theories about multiple shooters and other alternative explanations. Without official information to counter these theories, public unrest and speculation will likely continue to grow.
The Current Status
Court documents confirm that the medical examiner report is pending the upcoming trial. The full autopsy was completed, including blood work that can take six to eight weeks in normal cases, though this high-profile case likely expedited those results. The extensive imaging, ballistic analysis, and 4K video footage from multiple angles all serve as evidence being compiled for prosecution.
As for what happened to Charlie Kirk's body after the viewing, Lauren believes there was likely a private family burial, possibly conducted in the middle of the night or during a time when media attention had diminished. She doubts cremation took place and suspects that Secret Service or other security personnel monitored the funeral home to prevent vandalism or other incidents. The family's privacy regarding the burial location is understandable given the intense public interest and the existence of people who might attempt to disturb the gravesite.
Why This Matters
While these details are difficult to discuss, they're important for understanding what happened and ensuring something like this never occurs again. The death of Charlie Kirk was witnessed by potentially a hundred million people across various platforms, making it arguably the most publicly documented death in history. That visibility creates both a demand for answers and a responsibility to provide accurate information.
The professional examination, documentation, and analysis conducted by medical examiners and forensic experts will ultimately provide the definitive account of what happened. The legal process requires this thorough investigation regardless of how much video footage exists. Every angle must be examined, every detail documented, and every piece of evidence preserved to build a complete picture of the events and to ensure justice is served.
Video Transcript
I've just finished one of the most
important and interesting interviews
I've brought to my community to date. If
you are wanting to understand the
Charlie Kirk autopsy, the medical
examiner report, the ballistics, the
forensics, I've brought on a guest to
help answer questions that millions and
millions of us have. It's seriously one
of the best and most important
interviews I've ever done. Please, if
you could give this video a like and
share it. I know that people you know
are going to want to hear these answers.
It's a great interview. I hope you enjoy
it. Many of us are still trying to wrap
our h heads around Charlie Kirk being
gone. We're getting information about uh
the damage to his neck, the bullet, the
shooting. Uh, so many new data points
are coming out. To help me go through
what it was like to do the autopsy, what
might have happened with his body? Was
he gone immediately? I have Lauren the
mortician. Lauren, thank you so much for
joining me.
>> Uh, thank you so much for having me.
>> So, I appreciate you coming on. Uh
Lauren has uh her own YouTube channel
where she goes through information about
autopsies and coroner reports and and
things that she's seen. I'll put a link
so that people can find that uh very
easily. Um I wanted to have you on uh
because obviously I'm not a mortician
and there was all this information going
around on social media. There was no
autopsy. No autopsy. Someone put out
this clip and my best guess was it was
either AI or it happened earlier in the
day and whoever this dispatch uh person
was didn't know that there was an
autopsy. Now we know for a fact there's
an autopsy. There was new documents out
today saying that the medical examiner's
report is pending the upcoming trial.
Um, based on the injury that you saw as
somebody that's around death and and
bodies, what what was your initial
reaction to this gunshot wound?
>> Oh, I I think we all saw the footage by
now, right? And when I saw that footage,
in my heart of hearts, I knew that it
was very instant for Charlie Kirk. Um,
you know, I'm I'm not a doctor. I I do
death. Um, but just to see him slump
over like that and how quickly
everything happened and all of all of
everything that went down. Um, I've seen
a lot of trauma to the body and to me in
my heart I knew that that that was
pretty instant for him.
>> Yeah. And honestly, we we talked about
this off camera. We're both grateful.
like um I I I would not want him to
suffer for hours and hours until his
inevitable passing. But um you know
there was this rumor going around that
there was no autopsy, no coroner report,
no medical examiner. They literally just
released his body and this whole thing's
being a cover up. I had a feeling based
on the laws in Utah that there was one.
What led you to believe the now
confirmed autopsy took place?
So I uh for many years I have done the
job that the the uh medical examiner,
the transporter, I I have been there for
that job. And in the United States, any
suspected homicide legally requires a
corner or a medical examiner autopsy.
And so having been hands-on with that
job for so many years, been to
homicides, suicides, car accidents,
myself personally, and done the
transports,
I when I saw that information that had
come out that said he did not have an
autopsy, I I knew it was wrong. And uh
actually it's it's kind of what made me
pay a lot more attention to this because
when word spreads like that, it needs
clarification, especially to the public
where they don't do death every day. And
this was so public. Everyone saw what
happened to him and Charlie Kirk's
assassination. And I just immediately
hopped on and thought, "This needs
clarification." And if there was no
autopsy, this needs to be talked about
because that would not have been right.
>> Okay. Yeah. That for you, you would have
been like, whoa. Like the law was
broken, right?
>> Yeah. Yeah. I would have been like,
okay, where's my tinfoil hat? I'm
putting it on immediately because this
is not right and I'm going to scream it
from the mountaintop. But thankfully, I
did have somebody from the medical
examiner's office reach out to me. They
wanted to stay anonymous. I did verify
uh first last name, was able to pull up
articles to confirm that this person is
who they say they are and they thanked
me for my video and said that he did
100% have an autopsy. So that made me
feel a little bit better because I
thought I was going crazy over here
thinking this isn't right. This is if if
this audio is correct, which I don't
think it is because this would not be
proper protocol, uh we need to talk
about this. And so I was very very
grateful that they reached out and that
they said something. But then at the
same time I really encouraged them to
call the office and make a public
statement, say something. You know, this
audio is going around. You know, people
are wondering what is going on.
>> And I just really wish that they would
have acted a little bit sooner on it. I
mean, the governor of Utah, the medical
examiner's office, I mean, they they do
this a lot. And if there's some sort of
rumor going around, it could have been
cleared up right away, but they chose
not to. And I I don't understand why.
>> Yeah. Now now there's like a million
rumors.
>> Yeah. Now there's more. Now there's more
because now the the public's general
trust isn't it's wavering. It's like why
why aren't we being given this
information? We all watched Charlie Kirk
die in such a horrible and traumatic and
public way.
Not not that the public is owed
anything, but at the same time, we kind
of are because we are all emotionally
invested and this never should have
happened. So, I I I get everybody's on a
learning curve and everybody's trying to
figure out what to do, but at the same
time, they they know better. The the
medical examiner's office should have
come out immediately and I am
disappointed that they did not.
>> Okay. I appreciate that insight. Um, you
know, I heard somebody a couple of days
ago that said, "No, no amount of iPhone
video footage is replacement for good
forensic science." So, I figured there
was a medical exam. I mean, how else
would we have known the extent of the
damage to the neck, where they found the
bullet, uh, the the fragments, things
like that. So, um, with your with your,
uh, experience with bodies and and
exams, um, what what would have happened
from the time he was pronounced
deceased, how long until, uh, the
examiner or the autopsy people take
possession of the body and then what
what would have been their first moves
with figuring this, uh, figuring out the
cause of death and the the damage and
and looking for that bullet? So, this is
a very high-profile case as you can
imagine and I got a lot of questions on
the time frame because people want to
know how was he picked up so fast? How
was he autopsied so fast and how was he
inbalmed so quickly? And the truth of
the matter is that they probably called
the pathologist and called the team and
said, "We need you in here ASAP. We have
the president on the phone. We have the
vice president on the phone. They want
this done now and we need to move
quickly. So my assumption is that
everybody went into the office
immediately because for how quick of a
turnaround time this was, they needed
this done right away. So I think that
once they left that hospital and you can
see the procession of the vehicles. I
don't know if you've seen that video.
Yes.
>> Um, but from experience, I know Charlie
Kirk was in that black minivan because
that was a funeral home removal van
followed by the medical examiner
escorted back to the office directly,
which normally the medical examiner will
just go home. But I think that this
report needed to be written immediately.
all the paperwork, all the documentation
went straight for autopsy and then the
funeral home was contacted probably
during that time and pickup was done
either almost immediately or the f right
away in the morning. If autopsy was not
done the same night which I in my heart
of hearts I believe it was they would
his would have been the first one in the
morning and as soon as the procedure is
done it the whole medical procedure is
done
we can pick up at the funeral home. I
think that's something people don't
quite understand is that we coordinate
directly with the investigator, directly
with the medical examiner's office, and
once that autopsy is done and they've
collected the evidence that they need to
from the body, it it can take a couple
hours, but we can be there immediately.
I've had where they go right from the
table right to my cot, and then we load
them in the van, we bring them right
back to the funeral home, and we begin
the inbalming almost immediately.
>> Okay. Wow. Interesting. Okay. you. Yeah,
you made a really great point. The the
president of the United States who loves
Charlie Kirk is saying, "We want answers
now." The governor is saying, "We want
answers now." But you you have the law
where it's like there this is a
homicide. There must be uh an autopsy.
And correct me if I'm wrong, you can't
put a deceased body on an airplane if
it's not inbalmed. Is that correct? So
that is uh it is highly encouraged to do
imbalming. Um so you have to think about
when the body goes through a autopsy
that we have a full medical work through
with the Y incision organs are removed.
There is a cranial exam where the brain
is also extracted and when that happens
the body is now open and exposed to the
elements which can then speed up
decomposition. So when decomposition
starts to speed up and if we have family
that really wants to have that final
closure and say goodbye to their loved
one more time, which we did have here,
that imbalming needs to happen right
away. The sooner the better. The the the
sooner we can imbalm and get the the
blood is actually the fastest part of
your body that decomposes, but when you
have everything open to the elements, we
need to close it up. We need to
preserve, disinfect, and really get the
inbalming going right away.
>> Okay.
>> Um Oh. Oh, but your question was about
the airplane. Um he was I I saw a lot of
commenters say, "Oh, they didn't inbalm
him before they shipped him." That is
not true. 100% they had to have inbalmed
him. You're not going to put an
unimbalmed body in a casket that nice
and then put them on an airplane right
around the family as well. I mean, they
put the casket right right in there.
>> Yeah.
>> So, for liability, we don't want
anything to be I not to be too morbid,
but this is this is death. Um things can
leak, things can move around, especially
during flight. So, inbalming would be
100% encouraged.
>> Okay. Um, my we don't have the autopsy
report. As I said, there there's new
court documents out today. It even says
the the medical examiner report is
pending. Now, they're probably holding
that information back from the public on
purpose. Uh, we don't necessarily know
why, but um, my understanding from
speaking with a couple of people high up
at Turning Point USA, they let me know
that the the injury took place right
below the jaw in the C2. The bullet
crashed through C2 all the way through
C7 and then they found the bullet lodged
in that meaty area around T1, the
thoracic first vertebrae.
What what would what would the uh
autopsy look like? Would they be trying
to follow the path of the bullet? Would
they be doing X-rays to find the bullet
or a metal detector? What what does that
look like in the event of a gunshot
wound?
So, uh, when they when they bring the
body back, they do an external exam.
They take pictures. They they do all the
documenting that they can before they do
the internal exam. And what that is
involves, there's no metal detectors,
but they do X-rays of the body that will
reveal bullets, fragments, and
trajectory before they do the
dissection.
>> Um, okay.
>> Metal detectors are just too crude
compared to imaging. We really want the
imaging, especially in a murder
investigation.
Um,
and um,
>> would X-ray have been the main imaging?
Because I like I would assume they avoid
MRI because of metal, but is X-ray the
number one?
>> Yes. Yep. And it when you X-ray the
body, it can also be helpful to them
before they do any sort of dissection to
know what they're looking for and where
it where about the location of the wound
and the fragments might be. Okay, that
that that was going to be my next
question is, you know, this idea of all
these destroyed vertebrae, all of that
would have shown up on the X-ray before
they make an incision.
>> Yes. Yep. Um and uh Yep. And the bone
fractures for sure.
>> Okay. And then so
the body is taken in, they do an X-ray.
that bullet and the fragments that I've
heard about th those would have been
really shiny on the film so they would
know right where they were.
>> Yep. Yep. They would know right where
they were so that they could remove them
and then they'll also use that imaging
for evidence as well. Um especially in a
case like this where we have everyone
questioning where the bullet came from,
where the shot took place. Was it from
behind him? Was it in front of him?
There there's a lot of conspiracy
thoughts. I hate to say the word
conspiracy because I think people are
just they have big thoughts and big
opinions and they just want to express
them and we're not being given a whole
lot of answers at this time. So
understandably
they they have thoughts. So one thing I
wanted to bring up to you I didn't know
if you know this but Utah is actually
one one of the very few states that does
not they don't have to release public
records about autopsies.
>> Oh okay. So, um, they could cherrypick
what gets released. So, if you have a
contact at Turning Point USA, that might
be the I I also have um someone who sent
me a message from Fox um and they have
already tried to request autopsy
documentation and they were told no,
that in the state of Utah, they do not
release them to the public. So if we get
information during the trial or if
whatever Turning Point USA decides to
release, that will be the extent of what
the public is given.
>> Let me ask you something. How much time
do you spend every day on a web browser?
How much time do you spend clicking,
searching around, scrolling, typing,
endless tabs? It's a lot, right? Well,
there's a new AI web browser from
Perplexity called Comet, and that is
completely changing the way that you
interact with your web browser. Using
Comet feels like having a personal
assistant living in your web browser
that can actually do things for you
across the internet. That's right. It
can do things, not just get you answers.
You can ask Comet to handle tasks for
you. And it literally clicks, types,
searches, and scrolls like you would to
get things done for you in the
background while you go about your day.
Comet can shop for you, make
reservations, book travel, summarize
articles or videos, send emails,
schedule meetings, and a lot more to
make your life easier. Let me give you
an example. I'm about to go on a
business trip to Tampa. So, I've asked
it to find me the best Mexican
restaurants in the area. I want them to
have a reservation, good reviews, and
they have to have Diet Coke. Well, it
found the one that I'm planning to go
to. It set up the reservation, and it's
dumped it over to my calendar. You can
use Perplexity and Comet to book fun
things with your kids or grandkids or
buy things and send it to them. It's
really quite amazing. Pretty cool,
right? Download Perplex Perplexity's new
AI web browser, Comet, by heading to
pplx.ai/guarder,
and let your browser work for you. Plus,
right now, when you download Comet, you
get a month of Rumble Premium for free.
That's pplx.ai/guarder.
Go check it out right now. I'll leave a
link down below. Um, going back to
something you said earlier, Lauren, uh,
you said not not only would the imaging
be used for ballistics and understanding
the damage and the crime and the the
angle and the trajectory, but would
would they then try to follow the path
of the bullet? How help from the from a
criminal what's the word? um criminology
standpoint uh I don't know what the
right word is but understanding the
crime uh how how do they go about that
like the the imaging shows where where
the damage to the body is. It follows
the path of the bullet.
>> Yep. Yep. So they they'll they'll bring
in a they'll do a trajectory analysis is
what it's called. So they trace the
bullet path through the tissue. They may
insert probes or rods so that they can
get a definite where did this shot
originate from.
>> Um they they they
go over the body with a fine tooth comb
essentially. And that can involve those
rods that you've probably seen on
television, right? Where they they they
map out where the shooter could have
been and and the angle at which it came
from. So, that is all going to be
determined by the autopsy, which is why
I really hope and I really encourage I
don't know if someone will see this
video from the medical examiner's
office, but I think that if they
released that information, even though I
know they're not supposed to, or if
Turning Point decided to shut down the
rumors on was there more than one
shooter, was there more, if they don't
release that information to the public,
I think it's just going to cause more
unrest because people have theories and
they want to know what happened.
>> Okay. So, um going going back to those
rods, th this is the story we're being
told. Aam's razor says the simplest
answer is probably the most correct. We
our understanding is Tyler Robinson or
somebody on a roof at a high angle but
over to the side seven or eight feet but
then you go back 149 yards that that
bullet you would think it would go
through the meat of the neck and blast
out the backside but coming from a
downward and then an angle. I hope I'm
showing this right on camera. That that
bullet would have come in at an angle
and they're saying it crashed right into
C2. Um h have you seen anything like
that before or is this kind of a unique
situation?
>> This is definitely unique. Um, in my
when I initially saw that he had been
hit in the neck, my my heart had kind of
told me that was intentional because
when I have
um had murder cases that I have
personally worked, a lot of times you're
going to find bullet wounds in the chest
area because it's a much larger area
that people are aiming point blank for.
Um, head wounds I've seen, they're
normally upward direction. um for
YouTube community guidelines. Don't want
to say that word, but yep. Uh in an
upward and I I have not seen a neck
wound quite like this one. It's
definitely unique and I really hope that
they take the extra time that's needed
to trace the path of which it came from.
For sure.
>> Okay. Uh I did some analysis. I've had
other people say this to me, but okay.
So the the bullet comes in, it has to
expend a large amount of energy in like
a fraction of a second. You see
Charlie's shirt go up. You see his neck
and chest bulge, his his chain with a a
cross snaps around his neck. Um would
that energy be the reason his heart was
destroyed and the blood isn't squirting,
but rather it's kind of coming out
almost like a fountain? Yeah. Yeah. It
it it shredded everything. It in my
opinion it shredded everything. And so
when that happens, the body is a closed
system. And when you when you shred the
the veins or the arteries, it will just
pour out. And and that's how I knew that
there was no way they were going to save
him. That along with the body language.
But when that closed system is is
disrupted in such a way as it was for
Charlie Kirk, the blood will just pour
and it will pour and it'll only take a
minute and and you can tell by the
coloring how quickly it poured out. It
it was over pretty much initially right
as it happened.
>> Okay. Wow.
H these things are hard to talk about,
but um
>> they're important to talk about. Um it
makes people uncomfortable, but it this
never should have happened and in order
to prevent something like this happening
again, we should be talking about it.
>> I I agree. Well, well said. That's what
I was trying to communicate. uh because
it bring it brings me no joy to talk
about these especially where you know
I've inter I interviewed Charlie a
couple of times and I know his wife uh
is struggling with this u you know mil
mill million I I would say a hundred
million people watch this man be killed
um we it's it's probably we've never
seen anybody killed like this in in
history because of just all of the
cameras and all of that but um okay Um,
so the the the exam then, uh, I'm
assuming during the trial, whether they
show it to the public or not, there's
going to be a lot of photography of his
body through from the autopsy, both
externally and as they get deeper into
his body.
>> Uh, yes, there there will be um, a lot
of states have very strict rules on
photography of autopsies and releasing
that information. I don't think we as
the general public will ever see that
unless somehow horribly it were to be
leaked. I I don't think that the general
public needs to see that. Um, but there
there will be imaging that was taken of
taken of his body externally,
internally, and with the X-rays, they're
going to have ballistic experts there
100% because they need people to build
this case against Tyler Robinson or
whoever they if there's anybody else
involved, they they have to build their
case to show without a doubt that this
shot came from him.
>> Okay.
Um,
what about um, oh, I was going to say,
uh, in addition to this, um, Turning
Point USA, they they had three cameras,
at least three 4K cameras on Charlie
from the back, the the back side, and
the front. All of those captured this
horrible scene in 4K. I don't I
personally don't believe this will be
shown to the public, but would would
that help with them understanding the
the the injuries and the bodily damage?
>> Yeah. Yes, it would 100%. And a lot of
questions I got were why would Charlie C
why why would Charlie Kirk need an
autopsy if we have him dying in 4K on
camera and everybody saw it? Why would
he need an autopsy? And even when
something is filmed like that, the
autopsy team will still watch the
footage that so they will have wanted
and requested that 4K footage as
evidence. Um, so I know that there was
footage of a guy going and taking it
down and um I I do hope that that was
collected for them because they they're
going to be asking for it. even the
footage that went viral that got
uploaded. They're going to watch all the
different angles to make sure with 100%
certainty that they can testify to the
damage that was done to how it ended his
life. And um it is a step-by-step
process, but but even though there's
footage, they still have to do the full
exam from the head all the way down
because they have to and they also take
um they do blood work. they may see if
there's any other um
anything else in the body before that
were to happen. And that's actually the
part that can take the longest for
autopsy results is the um the blood
work. And um that can take anywhere from
6 to 8 weeks. In a case like this, I
think they're going to have the results
sooner, but we probably won't know that
as the public.
>> Okay. Yeah. I I figure a lot of this is
probably being held close to the vest
because they're they're now trying to
prosecute. They believe that they know
what what has happened. Um I saw a
picture of Erica Kirk next to Charlie's
body. He was in a coffin. It's kind of
zoomed in just showing his hands. How
how would they have put him back
together to make him look presentable if
this were to be an open casket
situation?
So there is a lot of swelling that can
happen after it after you know I I
really only saw the footage of as it
happened and so I didn't personally get
to see the the after effects but just
based on what I could see and how much I
was able to to zoom in um because this
is my job. this is what I do. And I I
like to think how I would have handled
something like this as an imbalmer. And
there were some things that fortunately
for the family and the imbalmer where
the injury occurred is on the non
viewing side of the casket. So when
Erica walked up to the casket, I'm sure
her eyes did go for that area naturally,
but it you you would have to look for
it. So that the imbalmer did have that
going for them, but because it wasn't a
through and through, that might have
made it a little bit easier for them to
imbalm the area unless the autopsy team
felt the need to fully dissect the area,
which they could have. Um, and when that
happens, we
depending on the damage to the tissue
around the neck and around the wound, we
may need to fill it with with tissue,
with wax, with with some sort of builder
to to reshape the neck so it looks again
like a normal neck. And then we have
certain sutures we can use to hide the
opening, hide the incisions. And then we
can use wax and then cosmetics. Um,
based on how his hands looked in the
casket, I was a little disappointed. Um,
only because he did look quite he did
look quite orange. Uh, the hands did
look a little discolored understandably.
I mean, Charlie Kirk is no longer with
us. So, when I see the rumors of he's
still alive, he's still alive. I looked
at that the photos of him in the casket
and I could see his hands. And after now
seeing all of the videos I have of him,
those are his hands. I don't know how
people can can say otherwise because you
can tell I I'm very I pay a lot of
attention to detail. A lot of this job
is art. It's attention to detail. And
you can tell that those are his hands,
his knuckles, his fingernails. You can
even see down to that close of detail.
and it's him. I I think that the
inbalmer would have had to have spent a
lot of extra time on the neck area, but
it was definitely doable for an open
casket.
>> Okay. Uh I've never done an interview
like this. Are there are there any
questions that I haven't asked that
would provoke information from you that
you think my audience would benefit from
hearing?
>> Um you know, a another big question I
get is what happened to his body?
>> Okay. Yes. what happened to his body.
>> We haven't um been given any information
for that and understandably so because
there are a lot of crazy people out
there and the family probably doesn't
want us to know where he's buried at
least at this time. I don't think his
body has been hanging around at a
funeral home somewhere because I believe
that they had
secret service there or they had um
people monitoring the situation to make
sure nobody would go in and vandalize
the funeral home or his body. Um
I don't think that they cremated him,
but I I do believe that they had a
private family burial. I think it was
probably almost immediate after they had
the viewing and they might have even
done it in the middle of the night so
they couldn't be followed or at some
point when the press had died down they
they just went ahead and and they did
that. And I I'm glad that I I hope that
that's how it went. I'm I I'm glad that
they got that moment of privacy to be
with their family to do that. But um a
lot of people wonder where he is now. I
I think maybe we'll we'll get answers to
that at some point, but people just need
to be patient.
>> Yeah. Okay.
H Lauren, thank you so much uh for
spending time helping me better
understand this. Um, if you guys are
interested in what she does, she she
walks through famous cases, uh, big
stories in the news, uh, what it's like
from start to finish to deal with, uh,
different aspects of of death. So, I
appreciate you coming on. I'm going to
put a direct link so that people can
find you very easily. I wish you success
with your YouTube channel. Thank you
again for coming on. I hope you have a
great rest of your day.
>> Thank you. I was really honored to be
here. Thank you so much.