[00:00] I've got to hand it to Charlie Kirk. He
[00:02] is so good at quickly reacting,
[00:05] responding to people's arguments,
[00:06] rebuffing their points, puncturing their
[00:08] arguments, and he's just gets better and
[00:12] better at it. And this is an example
[00:14] where he's talking to an anti-Israel
[00:16] student who is clearly not very well
[00:18] informed um and just kind of repeats
[00:21] lines he's heard on a whim. And uh
[00:24] Charlie gets to the crux of the matters
[00:27] very quickly. He also pedals some
[00:28] anti-Jewish tropes. this this uh
[00:30] character here. Um but have a watch
[00:32] because Charlie really is in some ways
[00:35] I'd say at his best here. Yes, sir. How
[00:39] are you doing today, man? How you doing?
[00:42] How you doing? Padres's are good this
[00:44] year. Yeah, they are. And um I just want
[00:47] to start off by saying I have no
[00:48] disrespect to any other religion. I
[00:49] respect all religion. This is more of a
[00:51] question for you and um whether or not
[00:54] you can confirm this. Uh the tal states
[00:56] that Jews are the chosen people and all
[00:58] non-Jews are goyam here to serve them.
[01:01] You are a Christian who's clearly
[01:03] serving the Jews defending Zionism with
[01:05] all you got. But you also believe Jesus
[01:07] is a rabbitic Jew in heaven when you
[01:09] know the Talmud states he's in hell
[01:10] burning in feces.
[01:13] Okay. So you're a Talmudic expert,
[01:15] right? Which Talmud is that in?
[01:17] Jerusalem or Babylonian? I'm talking
[01:18] about Jerusalem, sir. Oh, that's the
[01:20] Jerusalem, which actually is not as
[01:21] divinely inspired. Which one's longer?
[01:22] And how long is it? Don't look at your
[01:24] phone. Don't look at me in the eye.
[01:27] I'm not I'm not I'm not No, come on. You
[01:28] said that I'm a what? A tool of the
[01:30] Jews. So, look at me in the eye like a
[01:31] man. You said you're I'm talking about
[01:32] the Talmud. No, you you accused me of
[01:34] saying like you're a Zionist or
[01:36] something, right? I mean, do you do you
[01:38] support Israel? Yes, of course I do.
[01:40] Yes. Okay, that's good. For real,
[01:42] but that's another thing. You're an
[01:44] advocate for the military in America.
[01:46] Hold on. Time out. Time out. Do you
[01:47] agree with Israel's war crimes? What's
[01:49] up with that? Oh, war war crimes. We'll
[01:51] get into that, but let's be more
[01:52] specific. What is your point here of of
[01:55] dragging up a multi,000-year text that
[01:57] you don't know that you haven't read?
[01:59] You have not even Have you purchased the
[02:00] Talmud? Have you read the Tamude? What
[02:02] is the Tamude? Tell me the difference
[02:03] between the Torah of the Tanak and the
[02:04] Tamude. Go ahead. I don't know. Oh, you
[02:06] don't know. That's pretty important.
[02:07] Time out. So, what you did is you
[02:09] cherrypicked something on the internet
[02:10] that makes Jews look bad, but you can't
[02:13] tell me the difference between the Torah
[02:14] and the Tanakh and the Tal. I'm not
[02:15] trying to make the Jews look bad. No,
[02:16] but no, no, this is this is ridiculous.
[02:18] This is for clickbait. Let me tell you
[02:19] the difference. The Torah is the books
[02:21] that we as Christians acknowledge.
[02:22] Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and
[02:24] Deuteronomy. The most holy scriptures in
[02:26] Judaism. The Tanakh is also our Old
[02:28] Testament, right? That's Joshua, Judges,
[02:29] 1 and 2 Kings, you know, Hezekiah,
[02:31] Nehemiah, Ezekiel. The Talmude are
[02:34] rabbitic debates spanning over 500
[02:38] years, of which there's the Babylonian
[02:39] and the Jerusalem Talmude. The
[02:41] Babylonian is actually more inspired.
[02:43] It's two and a half million words. The
[02:44] Jerusalem is lesser inspired. And they
[02:46] disagree on all sorts of stuff and they
[02:47] pick it up. Those those are people that
[02:49] would they say, "I disagree with that."
[02:51] No, but hold on a second. But it's very
[02:52] important. You don't even know the stuff
[02:53] that you're bringing up to this event.
[02:54] That's why I'm asking you. No, no, no.
[02:56] It's really important because what
[02:57] you're trying is like this context.
[02:58] You're a tool of the Jews and I read
[03:00] this thing. But let's just make this
[03:01] very clear. Sir, it's an agreed to a
[03:03] disagreement. I'm not here. It's not
[03:04] agreed to disagreement. It's very clear
[03:06] is that you don't even know the stuff
[03:08] you're bringing up to make someone look
[03:09] bad. Ask you, do you agree or disagree?
[03:11] So, I of course I disagree with rabbitic
[03:13] Judaism. I'm a Christian. Jesus is the
[03:15] is the solution. Oh, I hope every Jew
[03:17] gives their life to Christ. This
[03:18] debating thing and but hold on. This is
[03:20] very important. You're you're trying to
[03:21] get clicks out of it. All I'm asking you
[03:22] if No, you were trying to get clicks
[03:24] out. Who was trying to get clicks? He
[03:25] was trying to get clicks. I don't have a
[03:27] YouTube channel. Trying to read the
[03:28] Talmude. You don't even know what it is.
[03:29] The Talmude. Okay. That's why I'm
[03:31] asking. Let me ask you a question. Do we
[03:32] as Christians have a biblical obligation
[03:34] to the Jews? I mean, you tell me since
[03:38] I'm not knowledgeable on it. Yes, we do.
[03:40] Paul says Paul says it's fine. Yes, I'm
[03:43] sure I'm sure we're going to have, you
[03:44] know, a Catholic disagree. People say
[03:46] we're the new Israel, but hold on a
[03:48] second. How can you how can you believe
[03:50] that there's the chosen people, your
[03:52] Christians? Hold on a second. Because
[03:53] Paul said first to the Jews, Paul Paul
[03:56] was around in a time after the
[03:58] resurrection of Christ. Don't you
[04:00] acknowledge that there was something
[04:01] special in the book of Exodus when God
[04:03] decided to work miraculously of those
[04:05] people out of Egypt and bring them into
[04:07] the desert. Isn't that a chosen people?
[04:09] Secondly, the covenant, the law, the
[04:11] decalogue, the Torah, they are the
[04:13] keepers of the law. In fact, that's why
[04:14] it says in Galatians 3, the law is a
[04:16] school teacher of Jesus Christ. Genesis
[04:18] 12:3, if you bless Israel, I will bless
[04:20] you. Same thing in the book of Numbers.
[04:22] And so, what am I'm getting at? We as
[04:25] Christians are bound to bless the state
[04:26] of Israel and to bless Jews. Jews. How
[04:29] can you bless bless yourself, man? Of
[04:31] course. But let me let's just talk more
[04:33] about Israel. Do you think who's the bad
[04:36] actor, Israel or Hamas? I I believe that
[04:39] I'm what Hamas is doing wrong, but that
[04:41] doesn't that's not okay for what Israel
[04:44] is doing to the Palestinian. What is
[04:45] Israel doing exactly? Tell me in detail.
[04:47] Where's it happen? Crimes. War crimes.
[04:49] Really? How? What do you mean how?
[04:50] They're killing little kids, man. Oh,
[04:51] hold on. Hold on. Killing kids. You mean
[04:53] Wait, they they drop they drop leaflets
[04:55] before they bomb in Gaza. They warn
[04:57] civilian corridors before they ever
[04:59] engage militarily. They do they do
[05:01] emergency medical procedures for any
[05:03] person in Gaza that might need it. Do
[05:05] you understand what's actually they're
[05:06] doing good but it's okay for them to do
[05:08] bad then that's it's called war. Okay.
[05:10] And in war sometimes bad things happen.
[05:12] Who started this? It's not a war crime.
[05:14] Throwing around war crime is a
[05:15] ridiculous. You know what a war crime
[05:16] is? A war crime is going
[05:19] into going into kabutz going into the
[05:21] Nova music festival. Going into people's
[05:24] places of residences on October 7th and
[05:26] putting So okay, you guys keep bringing
[05:28] up October 7th. You guys are doing
[05:30] pretty important. You got Okay. Okay. If
[05:32] you're going to all of a sudden attack
[05:33] Jews on their holiest day of the
[05:34] interior of Israel, expect a whirlwind
[05:36] and don't complain about it when it
[05:37] comes forward. So, so what's happening
[05:39] is that because if you're going to go
[05:42] into the interior of Israel and start
[05:44] babies throats in their homes, not even
[05:46] going after military. Can I can I say
[05:48] something please? Um, so basically what
[05:50] Israel doing is bad. Hamas is doing is
[05:52] bad. Okay. I'm not even contending what
[05:54] Israel is doing is bad. So what Israel
[05:56] doing isn't bad. Killing children isn't
[05:58] bad is what you're saying. Hold on a
[05:59] second. But you have to go in or not. I
[06:01] need a Are they intentionally killing
[06:02] kids? Is that what you're saying? No,
[06:04] they are not. That is complete BS. Why
[06:06] are they dead kids? Why are you okay
[06:07] with a good question? Why are there dead
[06:09] kids? Because Hamas has no time out. So
[06:12] you think Israel Let me get this
[06:13] straight. Let's think how a rationalist
[06:14] Israel sits around. Let me Hold on. I
[06:16] want to make sure this is okay. Of
[06:18] course I'm not okay with dead kids.
[06:19] Okay, ridiculous. I'm the most proife
[06:20] person. I've debated for 2 hours. Time
[06:22] out. Stop interrupting me. Do you think
[06:23] Israel Do you think Israel sits around
[06:25] they say we're going to How do we kill
[06:26] more kids in Gaza today? I mean, so why
[06:28] are they killing kids then? Exactly.
[06:30] Let's think. Maybe it's because Hamas
[06:31] uses the kids as human shields on top of
[06:33] their military bases. Maybe that's why.
[06:36] Maybe because the people of Hamas have
[06:38] no concern for the life of their own
[06:40] people. If you really believe that
[06:42] that's you're got to be really stupid,
[06:45] man, to actually assume that that's the
[06:46] case. We we have documented cases of
[06:49] Hamas using hospitals, schools, and
[06:53] military installations layered with
[06:55] civilians. In fact, IDF goes to such
[06:57] great extent when the Do you under do
[06:59] you understand? So, let me just ask you,
[07:01] how do you think Israel should have
[07:03] responded? 1,300 people die. How should
[07:05] Israel respond? Can I ask you something
[07:08] because you've had your chance? Can I
[07:09] talk for you?
[07:11] Answer it. How should Israel respond?
[07:13] 1,300 civilians killed. How should
[07:15] Israel respond? Kirk, Mr. Kirk, you had
[07:17] your chance to talk and ask you
[07:18] something. Okay. No answer. Are you okay
[07:20] with
[07:21] kids dying? Yeah. No. Every kid dying is
[07:24] a tragedy. Okay. Of course. Okay. All
[07:26] right. So then again, Israelis are
[07:29] killing killing the kids. Yes or no?
[07:32] It's collateral damage in a war. Of
[07:34] course, America, we killed tens of
[07:36] thousands of kids in World War II
[07:37] unintentionally. More than one person
[07:39] dies. It's okay to kill 10 kids. This is
[07:40] basically what you're saying. That's
[07:42] actually not what's happening at all.
[07:43] That is cuz you're blaming October 7th.
[07:45] I What happened? Every every human life
[07:48] is a tragedy. You must understand in war
[07:51] of which Hamas invited upon themselves.
[07:53] Hamas basically said, "We're gonna go
[07:55] invite and provoke you, Israel." And
[07:57] then they're complaining that Israel is
[07:59] better at war than them. That's what's
[08:01] happening. Killing killing kids is not
[08:02] better at war. That's that's okay.
[08:05] Again, to understand the military
[08:07] context, what's happening in Gaza, it is
[08:09] a complete wasteland. Understand the the
[08:12] combatants of Hamas, the combatants of
[08:14] Hamas, they're indistinguishable to that
[08:17] of civilians. They don't use the actual
[08:19] wars rules of engagement. They don't
[08:21] wear uniforms. IDF wears uniforms. No
[08:23] one no one in Hamas wears uniform.
[08:25] That's not correct. They don't wear
[08:26] uniforms. They disguise themselves as
[08:27] civilians. They'll do bombing all the
[08:29] time against IDF. This is the hardest
[08:31] war that any military has ever had to
[08:33] fight in the modern context. And spare
[08:35] me the nitpicking of the Western world
[08:37] saying October 7th. You can't talk about
[08:40] nitpicking. Nick, let's here's a moral
[08:43] difference. You know the moral
[08:44] difference. October 7th. One little
[08:45] thing.
[08:47] Okay. Look, October 7th was a little
[08:50] thing. What happened was bad. Yes, it
[08:52] was. No, was it was unspeakably evil.
[08:54] You know why it was bad? Because number
[08:57] one, it was not in a theater of war.
[08:58] Number two, they didn't go after
[09:00] military targets. This is how cowardly
[09:01] Hamas is. They didn't go after they
[09:03] didn't go after Israel military. I agree
[09:05] with Hamas. No, I'm not saying that. But
[09:06] understand the moral understand the
[09:08] moral difference. What I'm with is the
[09:09] Palestinians and the fact that there's
[09:11] kids dying. There's people dying. I I
[09:12] don't like kids dying. But you know
[09:14] who's responsible for the kids dying?
[09:15] Hamas is responsible for the kids dying,
[09:18] not Israel. and Israel. Hamas is
[09:20] responsible for their own kids dying.
[09:22] They've provoked Israel. Israel
[09:24] responds. Question, Charlie Kirk. Um,
[09:27] what's that? By the way, that's another
[09:28] great Thank you for wear the or the
[09:31] Yamaka. The Yamaka. Have you do you I
[09:33] seen a video of you wearing it. Yes.
[09:35] Yes. Out of adoration respect when I
[09:36] went to the Western Wall. Correct. Yeah.
[09:38] Do you know why they wear it? Actually,
[09:40] I don't. Because they believe that
[09:41] Hashem is always above you and that God
[09:43] is always judging you. And as a
[09:44] Christian, I have a more nuanced
[09:46] theological view than that. I think it's
[09:47] actually a beautiful thing. I think it's
[09:49] a beautiful thing to wear something
[09:50] above your head and believe there's a
[09:51] God who judges you and designs you. I I
[09:54] can respect that. I I I celebrate other
[09:55] cultures as well. I was just curious.
[09:57] Yeah. Um I appreciate you for having
[09:59] this argument. Okay. Again, in closing,
[10:01] I
[10:03] think we we agree. If Israel dropped
[10:05] down all their weapons, what would
[10:06] happen? I I I believe Hamas will drop
[10:09] down and we'll leave in peace.
[10:14] If Israel dropped down all their
[10:15] weapons, I hope I I'm in hope that Hamas
[10:18] will do the same. I I in hope. I can't
[10:20] hope for no war. I'm in hope. I'm in
[10:22] hope. Hamas's charter is the elimination
[10:24] of the Jewish state. I hope I'm I'm in
[10:26] hope that Hamas will drop all their
[10:28] weapons.
[10:31] I'm in hope. I'm in I'm in I'm in hope
[10:33] that this war stops in general. I No one
[10:36] likes No one likes what's happening.
[10:38] However, we must be morally clear why it
[10:40] started. What was the beginning of it?
[10:42] What was the genesis? And the genesis
[10:44] was kamas on one of the holiest days on
[10:46] the Jewish calendar, which is they
[10:49] decided to go on Shabbat, not to attack
[10:52] military bases, not to go after the IDF.
[10:55] They went into homes. They went to
[10:56] kabutzas. They went to music festivals.
[10:58] They took they took hostages. And guess
[11:00] what? When they went back to to Gaza,
[11:02] when they went back to Gaza, they were
[11:04] celebrated as heroes. They they threw
[11:06] rave parties for these terrorists. They
[11:08] weren't like, "Whoa, whoa, this is kind
[11:09] of wrong." is doing is bad. What is I
[11:11] agree? But there's a much deeper cancer
[11:13] in Iraq happening in Gaza than just
[11:15] Hamas. You can say I can say the same
[11:17] thing about Israel. Really? I I just
[11:19] can't. How could you say that? I just
[11:20] can't. Do you know that there are Arab
[11:22] members of the Knesset? Are there Jewish
[11:23] members of the Gaza or Palestinian
[11:25] Authority? You know that there's a Arab
[11:27] member of the Israeli Supreme Court. I I
[11:29] understand, man. No, this is important
[11:30] because I don't like again I'm I'm an
[11:32] America first guy, but I'm also a truth
[11:34] seeker and I don't like to see the
[11:36] singular Jewish state of half the
[11:38] world's jewelry maligned and slandered
[11:40] every single day for no good reason.
[11:42] Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank
[11:44] you.
[11:45] Absolutely brilliant from Charlie Kirk
[11:47] here. I really don't understand how
[11:48] people can be
[11:50] so slow to understand the idea that
[11:53] Israel is not targeting children, but
[11:55] children and civilians can be collateral
[11:59] damage in war and that the moral onus is
[12:02] entirely on the side of the
[12:05] aggressor. I mean this guy does he genu
[12:08] genuinely thinks that Israel is going
[12:10] after children. Israel wants to kill
[12:13] random Arab
[12:14] children. that is it's like a blood
[12:18] label. The only people that were doing
[12:20] that in this region is Hamas in this
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