Zach Costello Exposes Lies Surrounding Charlie Kirk Shooting and Eric Bolling's Candace Owens Claims

[00:00] New shocking details have emerged about

[00:02] the man in the crowd that got up and

[00:04] cheered in the immediate aftermath of

[00:05] Charlie Kirk being shot. This individual

[00:08] released a statement and something is

[00:10] not quite adding up as I'm about to take

[00:12] you through. Also, former Turning Point

[00:14] USA board member Eric Bowling returned

[00:16] to the Patrick B. David podcast and was

[00:19] given the chance to explain himself

[00:21] after it was found out that he blatantly

[00:22] lied about Charlie Kirk's relationship

[00:25] with Candace Owens. And as you're about

[00:26] to see, he just made matters worse.

[00:29] Finally, you'll remember that right

[00:30] after Charlie Kirk was killed, Candace

[00:32] Owens was very unhappy with the way that

[00:34] many pro-Israel people were behaving in

[00:36] the wake of his death. She called them

[00:38] out as liars for claiming that Charlie

[00:41] was a neverending supporter of Israel.

[00:43] They claimed that he never waved in his

[00:45] support and the pro-Israel crowd called

[00:48] her a liar and began a coordinated smear

[00:51] campaign against her. She then produced

[00:54] the text message thread where Charlie

[00:56] explicitly stated that he was tired of

[00:58] the way that Jewish donors were treating

[01:01] and bullying him and that he was leaving

[01:03] along with Turning Point USA the

[01:05] pro-Israel cause. Candace identified

[01:08] Josh Hammer as one of the people on that

[01:11] message thread and now Hammer is

[01:13] organizing to sue Candace Owens for

[01:16] defamation. We'll start there. I'm Zach

[01:18] Costello.

[01:21] You know, I'm I'm talking to lawyers. I

[01:22] think I I'm a lawyer by background. I

[01:25] clerked for a federal appeals judge. I

[01:26] know I know a thing or two about United

[01:28] States constitutional law. I think that

[01:30] we have a a potentially serious case

[01:32] here for defamation. And I'm very much

[01:34] speaking with lawyers and we'll see what

[01:35] happens.

[01:36] >> She is lying in a way that is resonating

[01:39] with people in a way that damages you

[01:41] significantly.

[01:43] >> Yeah. It's it's just so evil. I I mean,

[01:45] Charlie was a good friend of mine. I

[01:46] mean, I've I've known him for five, six

[01:48] years, give or take, but we really

[01:49] became close over the final year, year

[01:50] and a half of his life. We we were in

[01:53] daily communication. You know, I don't

[01:56] actually know precisely the extent to

[01:58] which he and Candace communicated in the

[02:00] final year or two, but she very much was

[02:02] on the outs turning point USA. And my

[02:04] understanding is that they were they

[02:05] were not in they were really were not in

[02:07] touch at all. I mean, maybe kind of a

[02:08] happy birthday kind of here or there,

[02:10] but nothing not close touch. Candace

[02:12] Owens has been willing to turn over

[02:14] every stone and burn every bridge to

[02:16] find out what happened to Charlie Kirk.

[02:17] The way in which people like Josh Hammer

[02:20] came out claiming that Charlie never

[02:22] wavered in his support of Israel despite

[02:24] having been on that text message thread

[02:27] wherein Charlie said the opposite was a

[02:29] red flag for Candace and she had a

[02:31] problem with it. That's why she called

[02:33] him out. She called Josh Hammer a liar

[02:36] for what he said and it's certainly

[02:38] justified. So, I don't see what kind of

[02:40] defamation case that he has against her.

[02:43] But speaking of potential defamation,

[02:45] Eric Bowling was brought back onto the

[02:47] PBD podcast and given the chance to

[02:50] explain the blatant lies that he told

[02:53] about Candace Owens and her relationship

[02:55] with Charlie Kirk and Turning Point USA.

[02:57] As you're about to see, he just made

[02:59] matters worse.

[03:00] >> We talked about Candace Owens, if you

[03:02] remember when the Candace Owens

[03:03] conversation came about. And then I

[03:04] called you and I said, "Hey, Eric,

[03:06] people are asking questions about two

[03:08] items. One, the comment you you made

[03:10] about being on the board and the other

[03:11] one was a comment made about

[03:14] that Candace hadn't uh spoken at Turning

[03:18] Point USA for two years. I think you

[03:20] said that." And then uh uh the audience

[03:22] on sent a message which was June of

[03:24] 2024,

[03:26] you know, 18 months or 14 months prior

[03:28] to you speaking. I know you responded to

[03:29] it on your channel, but people want to

[03:31] see on you responding here as well. What

[03:32] do you have to say to the audience? So

[03:33] it it remains. It's 2019. I was going

[03:36] from a show I was hosting in DC to a

[03:38] restaurant in just outside the DC area.

[03:41] I get a phone call. It's Charlie Kirk.

[03:42] He said, "Eric, I'd love to have you on

[03:44] the board of Turning Point USA." It

[03:45] just, you know, it wasn't maybe a year

[03:47] or two of of its real gusto at the time.

[03:49] I said, "Charlie, I love your vision.

[03:50] I'd love to do that." I've spoken and I

[03:53] was an advisory board member from 2019

[03:55] to 2024, 2024 ballpark, early 24. And

[03:59] then I moved over to the honorary board.

[04:02] I'm still on their honorary board. So,

[04:04] anyone who says like, "Oh, he's not on

[04:05] the board." No, I'm not on the actual

[04:06] day-to-day business of the board, but

[04:09] I'm the an honorary board member after

[04:10] spending five years as an advisory board

[04:12] member. Clear that up. Walk past it. As

[04:14] far as the comment on Candace Pat, I I

[04:17] could have I think I said I hadn't seen

[04:19] her or she hadn't been a a speaker at

[04:21] TPUSA for a couple of years and I was I

[04:25] guess I was mistaken because it was 18

[04:26] months and and I had forgotten about the

[04:28] 2024 event as I think she was pregnant.

[04:31] Anyway, they Candace Owens army let me

[04:34] know it. They were very upset. And this

[04:36] was all stemming from kind of a back and

[04:37] forth I had with Adam about

[04:40] she was blaming Israel for Charlie

[04:42] Kirk's assassination. I just didn't

[04:43] think that was a fair assessment. And

[04:45] then turns out the next day she said it

[04:47] was the US government who assassinated

[04:50] Charlie Kirk. I have no axe to grind

[04:52] with Candace Owens or her fan base. That

[04:54] that's fine. I'm just living in the real

[04:55] world a little bit a little bit more

[04:57] reality uh based. I believe there are

[05:00] there are forces behind Charlie Kirk's

[05:02] assassination, but I don't think it's

[05:04] Israel. I'm pretty sure it's not. And

[05:05] I'm pretty sure it's not the US

[05:07] government.

[05:07] >> Who do you think it is? I mean, I

[05:09] >> I think it's a the trans activist group

[05:11] funded by the, you know, the Soros

[05:13] network of liberal progressive lunatics.

[05:16] Um, and whether it's directly funded or

[05:19] they just fund these Antifa groups and

[05:21] these these it it riles up their base

[05:24] and their base is anti-Trump. anything

[05:27] proTrump gets in the way. And because of

[05:29] Charlie's success reaching into young

[05:31] people, he be became a target to this

[05:33] whole Antifa trans progressive left

[05:37] cabal.

[05:37] >> Problem with that is that isn't what he

[05:39] said. He just doubled down on the lie.

[05:41] In fact, he just doubled down on three

[05:44] lies. This is what he actually said.

[05:46] >> You're on the board of Turning Point.

[05:47] >> Yeah.

[05:48] >> Okay. When's the last time you saw

[05:49] Candace Owens

[05:52] >> in person?

[05:52] >> Yeah.

[05:53] >> 2015. 2016.

[05:55] >> Okay. Yeah. When's the last time she was

[05:57] at a turning point event?

[05:58] >> Not in many years.

[05:59] >> Okay, so let's hear

[06:02] there's a even involved

[06:05] no question proof that Candace Owens is

[06:09] nothing has nothing to do.

[06:11] >> She would be in in a perfect world if if

[06:14] they didn't have this what I already

[06:15] know was a is a very quiet breakup where

[06:18] she got too rabbit hole for him.

[06:21] >> She would be the logical heir to the

[06:24] TPUSA throne. But she's not she's not

[06:26] even invited.

[06:27] >> Correct. So this is this is so their

[06:29] divide is

[06:29] >> Wait a minute. Not invited meaning

[06:31] >> she's not even there.

[06:32] >> Yeah. She's not she's not one of the

[06:33] names that

[06:34] >> you don't think she'll be at the

[06:35] funeral.

[06:35] >> No, no, no.

[06:39] She doesn't speak at the events anymore.

[06:41] >> So he said or alluded to the fact that

[06:42] he was currently on the Turning Point

[06:44] USA board, not a past or honorary board

[06:47] member. He also said that Charlie had a

[06:50] silent breakup with Candace Owens

[06:51] because she was chasing down rabbit

[06:53] holes, which also isn't true. They

[06:55] remained friends. And he said that it

[06:58] had been many years since Candace was

[07:00] doing a Turning Point USA event. Also

[07:03] not true. The continual lies from people

[07:06] with special interests are a red flag.

[07:09] Which leads us to the man who got caught

[07:11] cheering in the crowd after Charlie Kirk

[07:13] got shot. Do you remember this guy?

[07:16] Well, his name is David, and here he is

[07:18] finally breaking his silence, explaining

[07:21] what happened and why he did what he

[07:22] did. This doesn't add up.

[07:27] The event opened with music, people

[07:29] throwing hats, and loud exchanges from

[07:31] different parts of the crowd. Some

[07:32] shouted offensive remarks directed at

[07:34] the LGBT community, while others made

[07:36] disparaging comments about the prophet

[07:37] of Islam. There were also cheers, booze,

[07:39] and offensive hand gestures, mockery.

[07:42] The atmosphere carried an energy of

[07:43] confrontation more than dialogue.

[07:46] The first debater tried to persuade

[07:47] Charlie to adopt Mormonism, but the

[07:49] exchange drifted into a disjointed back

[07:51] and forth of opinions. The audience

[07:53] eventually booed him off platform.

[07:54] Another speaker raised the idea of

[07:56] restricting gun rights for transgender

[07:58] individuals, citing Donald Trump as an

[08:00] influence. He began to reference

[08:02] statistics and posed a question.

[08:04] Charlie's response turned to the subject

[08:07] of gang violence as a part of the mass

[08:09] shooting of mass shooting statistics.

[08:12] At that point, I did not see what

[08:13] happened directly. and my head was

[08:15] lowered while I listened. When I heard a

[08:17] sharp crack, at first I thought it might

[08:19] have been fireworks or a disruptive

[08:20] prank. So, I looked up to the horizon

[08:22] for smoke. When none appeared, I

[08:24] realized it must have been a firearm.

[08:28] My friend reacted in horror, saying

[08:29] Charlie had been struck. His voice and

[08:31] description told me how serious it was.

[08:32] Based on his reaction, I believed

[08:34] Charlie had been gravely injured. I

[08:36] instinctively I instinctively checked

[08:38] the security team's movement team's

[08:40] movement

[08:41] though I have no affiliation with them.

[08:43] Realizing the situation was dangerous I

[08:45] stood and shouted USA not as a

[08:47] provocation but to project strength

[08:50] encourage others and create a

[08:51] distraction that might help calm panic

[08:52] or even save lives. At that moment no

[08:56] one knew whether this was a lone shooter

[08:57] or something coordinated. My friend was

[09:00] devastated. He admitted he admired

[09:02] Charlie deeply. I only knew Charlie

[09:05] through minimal uh content, but would

[09:07] never wish to celebrate harm to anyone.

[09:10] Because of my background as a soldier, I

[09:11] was able to stay calm under stress,

[09:13] focus on protecting and comforting my

[09:15] friend. Afterward, I called my wife to

[09:16] let her know I was safe. Once traffic

[09:18] eased, we left.

[09:21] First of all, what kind of a reading of

[09:22] a prepared statement is this? Like, is

[09:25] this supposed to be believable? Second,

[09:28] if you thought, David, that there might

[09:30] have been a second shooter. Why in the

[09:32] world are you doing this? Watch again.

[09:35] Like, why are you throwing up your hands

[09:38] and you're happy? Like, does this look

[09:40] like someone who is concerned for others

[09:42] and for the crowd? The lies continue.

[09:45] And where lies are, darkness is. This is

[09:48] the reason for the red flags. And this

[09:50] is why people have questions. Weird

[09:53] behavior, weird lies doesn't lead to

[09:56] good places. I'm Zach Costello.